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Sensitivity to the Plight of Women - The Sopranos: Media Club Plus S03E09 (Patreon)

Published:
2026-10-17 12:53:51
Edited:
2026-10-17 12:59:12
Imported:
2026-10

Content

Welcome to Media Club Plus: a podcast about diving into the media that interests us and the stories that excite us. This season we're watching The Sopranos. In this episode, we watched episodes 16 and 17, Toodle Fucking Oo and Commendatori. Next episode we're watching 18 and 19, Big Girls Don't Cry and The Happy Wanderer.

Featuring Keith Carberry (@KeithJCarberry), Sylvi Bullet (@SYLVIBULLET), Arthur Martinez-Tebbel (@amtebbel), and Darcy Swan (@darcyneversaysdie)

Produced by Keith Carberry

Music by Jack de Quidt (available at notquitereal.bandcamp.com)

Cover Art by by Annie Johnston-Glick (@dancynrew) anniejg.com

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Cosmic Crown

Funny enough, Annalisa's "There's no such thing as Italy" is an opinion she shares with Antonio Gramsci of all people

scarlet

I had a very different perspective of Carmela in this episode. When Tony comes back and she hears him say "I'm back" and wishes he had died, I took it as a moment where she couldn't lie to herself anymore about wanting a divorce.

Run Button

oh yeah no this is exactly what i meant when i talked about the divorce particles. for most of the episode she is refusing to address reality and her feelings but that idea of divorce spreads out from the patient zero

Run Button

well not to be vulgar but as far as national identities go italy is about as manufactured as you can get

George McG

There may be more to pull on the thread with regard to the seemingly offhand joke about NATO. Near the end of the episode, when Tony is reading about "The Sibil's Cave", you can see "FUCK NATO" graffiti scrawled on the sign. NATO has a major HQ in Naples and houses important personnel: "The Commander-in-Chief of Allied Forces Southern Europe has always been a United States Navy Admiral, based at Naples, who also holds the national appointment of Commander-in-Chief United States Naval Forces Europe." In the context of when the episode was filmed, during the previous year NATO had conducted its bombings of Yugoslavia, which among other things killed hundreds of civilians. In 1999, 100,000 people had marched in Rome against these bombings (seen as "American imperialism"). Earlier in 1998, at the Cermis ski resort in Trentino, American jets had flown too low and severed the cables of a cable car - killing 20 people (the pilots were acquitted by the American military). So Italians may not have been feeling wild about America at the time. So to some extent, the romantic dream of Italy that Tony and the other's held in their minds had already polluted by America itself. I'm not saying that any of this was necessarily in the minds of the writers/director at the time, but it was certainly in the air.

Begemott

Fun fact: The observation that English uses french words for the finished product (beef) and English words for the living animals (cow) is from the 1820 Water Scott novel Ivanhoe! See also: the thing about medieval people being confused about this newfangled "silverware", and every story about Robin Hood you've ever heard. It would be a pretty good novel if it weren't blisteringly antisemitic.