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Recorded August 23, 2018

The War Nerd & Ames take a painful walk, or rather crawl, down early-RWN-podcast memory lane. What lessons can we learn? Looking back, what are the big stories that emerge, that we missed? And can we listen to these early episodes sober and still survive? . . . Some interesting themes and lessons do emerge from our early shows. Biggest lesson of all: Thanks to RWN supporters, guests & sound-genius Brendon, we're all much better off than when we started . . . 

Total time: 1:58:05

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Paul Vd

I first discovered you guys and the podcast when I was on a Serbia war deep dive. Just finished "My War Gone By. I Miss it So" ( Common It's a fun book. U guys made fun of it lol) I just searched Bosnia in the podcast app and the Bosnia episode came up. It was exactly what I was looking for and remains my favorite episode. BTW the author of that book is Anthony Loyd. Hes on Twitter and went to Syria recently. Maybe he'd be a good guest. The only thing I want to add is that you should make sure to cover all war events even for just a minute. You skipped over the su 25 shoot down and I was waiting all week for your take on it. Cheers. Looking forward to another year.

JoR

Great episode, shows how the show has grown in 3 years. Hopefully we get another one in 3 years.

Benjamin Glover

Been following you both since the mid 2000s from the Exile to NSFWCORP and Pando, and day one with RWN. I have always thought there are many others out there like myself who highly value the work you have done but until RWN were unable to throw filthy lucre straight at you. Here's to three anniversaries more and at least one more adaptation from John.

Jay Burnett

I have only two questions on the occasion of your 3rd anniversary. The story of the grunge guitar theme tune, and what is the ancient greek word for Ray-band?

zaabittimov

I’ve been a subscriber since day one and a follower of both of your guys’ work for a few years before. When RWN/War nerd Wednesdays started, I remember being particularly intrigued and often amused because after following John’s (mis)adventures in the Middle East and Timor, he was finally cruising around my neck of the woods, the Balkans. Listening to John report back from locations very familiar to me with stories of awkward interactions, grueling bus rides, while also including good social/political observation was a lot of fun for me. My girlfriend and I had been to Ksamil a few months before John, and when we found out he was there we said to each other “Man, how the *hell* did he end up *there!”. It’s not exactly easy to get to! Since anything Balkan related is a bat signal to me, I have a couple comments. Regarding not being able to use Russian in Macedonia…In my experience it isn’t so much that people don't want to try to understand another Slavic language because they want to be European, but rather that people in ex-Yugoslavia tend to speak very good English. It’s a combination of both being from small countries and having media subtitled instead of dubbed. I have a number of American friends who have lived in Belgrade for years, many attracted by the relatively cheap prices (and that the Serbian government doesn’t really care how long you stay as long as you leave every 60 days, if only for a day), and most of them *want* to speak more Serbian but people just usually carry on with them in English. We’re a relatively practical but also an impatient people, so when one hears someone struggling to be understood, and they speak English, then they tend to want to just switch to English. Also, Russian wasn’t as extensively taught here as it was in other former socialist countries. Mark is right about Vučić and Erdogan (it is pronounced Vuchich, btw). Erdogan is playing an interesting game with their former colonies here. They recently successfully pressured both Kosovo and Bosnia into arresting and deporting several suspected Gulenists. If you want to see a very strange illustration of the Serbian-Turkish friendship, here’s a video of former Prime Minister and current Foreign Minister Ivica Dačić (head of Milošević’s old party) serenading Erdogan with a Turkish song that was popular in the Balkans: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-Nt6H7G84" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-Nt6H7G84</a>

Benjamin Glover

I forget the exact episode where it got explained, probably in the "looking back on 100 episodes" one, but the short version is that it's a composition by one of Mark's friends who plays in a band (I think?).

M A K Fazlulla Khan

War nerd AKA John Dolan... When’s the War Nerd Iliad Audiobook version coming out? If it comes out, can you also publish it in Amazon Audible, please.

Cody Roach

holy hell, I've been listening to this for 3 years?

Sérgio Teixeira da Silva

Patreon seems to vanish comments sometimes. I made a large one, and it wasn't I who deleted it. Is there an e-mail notification (as I get when replied to) from which that text could be recovered?

Ronald Dahlgren

Congratulations! This podcast has been a real joy to listen to. Please keep them coming for 3 more years <3

Avery

Patreons comment system is terrible. I do see your comment on the Ottomans though

Sérgio Teixeira da Silva

I don't know what made me phrase that diplomatically, Mr. Clash! Guest, sir. I put back most of my other comment - see below.

Sérgio Teixeira da Silva

The important parts (plus one) of my previous vanished comment follow. About being early into something for once (and in a good way!), that seems to have been due to your association with a guy whose actual job description is "getting Internet things early". Also, <a href="https://pando.com/2017/01/05/most-no-brainer-move-2017-medium-should-buy-patreon/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pando.com/2017/01/05/most-no-brainer-move-2017-medium-should-buy-patreon/</a> should make one appreciate Sarah and Paul even more. On Talas: I did what I should've done back then: add a correction on Ep. #02 that: the Abbasids were Arabs (that rose with Persian support and rewarded them, but most power stayed with Arabs), it wasn't Talas but the An Lushan Rebellion that halted China in Central Asia, and it wasn't "for a while" - they never got that far again. Thanks for the mention! About Stratfor: its founder George Friedman left for Geopolitical Futures, which has fit my preferences better. On fearing Swedes: well, they *were* terrifying once, which beats <a href="https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fytring%2Fjeg-ble-voldtatt-av-en-mann-1.12852714&edit-text=&act=url" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fytring%2Fjeg-ble-voldtatt-av-en-mann-1.12852714&edit-text=&act=url</a> . "Trump voters' spite" (including that of white Midwesterns who previously voted for Obama, perhaps) may matter less than the fact that NAFTA renegotiations have included tariff benefits for products made by workers earning at least US$ 16,00/h, which's *exactly* what a(even internationalist) Socialist should want. A major wrong prediction (that I also made) was that Russia was going to establish a coastal state for Syrian religious minorities and tell Assad to chill about the East. Lastly, you heard the man himself talk about the benefits: Make the War Nerd Poor Again! (Keep being awesome, both.)

Pere

Congratulations from the imaginary republic of Catalonia guys. I discovered the ward nerd when you landed in Pando just when you were about to start the podcast. I've been with you since the beginning. The sound quality was at times exasperating but I understood well your situation back then and the quality of your comments was, and still is, great. I learned a lot from you. Thanks!

Pere

A comment concerning towers in the Mediterranean coastline. The same happens in the west Med. The coastline I now better, Minorca and the region close to the Ebro river Delta is full of towers due to the slavery raids made by the north African pirates, sponsored by the Ottomans