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Radio War Nerd EP #164 — Garibaldi in Latin America + Spy Scandals from MH-CHAOS to Integrity Initiative (Patreon)

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2019-01-11 19:53:53
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2019-01-11 20:02:54
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Recorded: January 8, 2019

BUENOS AIRES—The War Nerd recovers the little-known (in the Anglo world at least) story of young Garibaldi's revolutionary exploits in South America, when he fought in the Ragamuffin War for the breakaway Piratini Republic against the newly-independent Brazil Empire . . .

At 59:00 Ames talks about the recent scandal over the British intelligence-backed Integrity Initiative's covert propaganda operation using friendly media figures to target westerners critical of the new Cold War hysteria, including UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn. New revelations about Integrity Initiative show that the operation has already moved in the US, and one of its hired speakers has already attacked both the War Nerd and Ames, as well as having smeared previous RWN guests Rania Khalek and Max Blumenthal. To give this domestic spy scandal story some  context, Ames recovers the history of the CIA's illegal domestic spy operation, MH-CHAOS, which began targeting Ramparts magazine and eventually expanded to spying on and disrupting hundreds of thousands of antiwar Americans. The program ended when Seymour Hersh exposed it in 1974, leading to the creation of the Church Committee. . . 

Images:

*Map of Piratini ("Riograndense") Republic

* Anita Garibaldi stamp

*Warren Hinckle, catalyst for massive CIA domestic spy operation MH-CHAOS

*CIA informant Salvatore "Sal" "John" Ferrera

Reading: * "Secrets: The CIA's War At Home" by Angus Mackenzie 

* "If You Have A Lemon, Make Lemonade" by Warren Hinckle* "New Documents Reveal a Covert British Military-Intelligence Smear Machine Meddling in American Politics" by Max Blumenthal and Mark Ames

Total time: 2:31:21

Direct link to this episode's mp3 here 

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LeScourge

Great job as usual guys. How about an episode on Venezuela? Could use some attention from you.

Brian Rubendall

I'll second this comment. Would also be interested at some point to here your thoughts about the future of drone warfare, especially in light of the recent shut down of Gatwick Airport. Canadian blogger Ian Welsh has asserted that drones combined with IEDs are going to be THE security threat of the 21st century: <a href="https://www.ianwelsh.net/drones-are-a-weapon-of-the-weak-2/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.ianwelsh.net/drones-are-a-weapon-of-the-weak-2/</a>

Avery

I wanna clarify one thing for the record — the conference itself wasn't by the Integrity Initiative or Adventium. Those two groups organized a panel at the annual conference of the IEEE, an industry-friendly engineer association. Alexander wrote a long blog post responding to Mark and Max which is mostly the same old lines about how Mark published Limonov and wrote satire about 90s Russia, as if that were at all comparable to taking money from a military-industrial deep state collaboration. He claimed he was presenting at an "IEEE conference" and completely dodged the question of how he was invited to that particular panel.

eh

Might be worth noting that Paraguay actually banned white members of the elite from marrying within the group in 1814 as part of an attempt at promoting greater social equality

xnfec

Garibaldi did go to the Franco Prussian war with the army of the Vosges which was made up of volunteers. Two of his sons commanded brigades but their father marched with the army. Thats what I get from the Wiki article at any rate. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Vosges" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Vosges</a> Jasper Ridley covers Garibaldi's South American experience quite well: <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Garibaldi-Jasper-Ridley/dp/1842121529/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1547633349&sr=8-6&keywords=jasper+ridley." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.co.uk/Garibaldi-Jasper-Ridley/dp/1842121529/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1547633349&sr=8-6&keywords=jasper+ridley.</a> Argentine and Uruguayan spanish does differ somewhat from Peninisular spanish though they are easily mutually intelligible. City people love slang and playing with words. In Mexico I heard people use 'wagon' for car but in Uruguay they use 'auto'. I heard one Mexican lady use 'practicar' for chat but in Uruguay (and I suppose, Argentina) people use 'charlar'. It does not use the 'th' for c and z but rather 's'. It also uses loan words from Italian. The whole 'th'/'s' thing is not particular to there though. I've heard people from Barcelona not use 'th' it and it is a feature of spanish from the Canary Islands. A lot of people in Uruguay for instance come from there and to this day people in the countryside who talk in a particular way are nick-named 'Canarios'. BTW, if John is looking for a future destination, he might consider Tenerife in the Canaries. The capital (Santa Cruz) is pleasant and has an small, though interesting, Military museum. They have an exhibit of the defeat of the British (still commemorated as a carnival day), where Nelson lost his arm and a lot about the African colonial army. There is a bit about the conquest of the Canaries. It took the Spanish over 100 years to achieve this. One exhibit has the weapons used by the Guanches (natives) which appear to be still good. The Spanish armour has all but rotted away though. As ever, a good episode.

Ilias

I bought 'Secrets' from McKenzie last summer, I'll try to digitize it.

Mark

Mark just got a shout-out on Russia Today from Tyrel for his work on the Integrity Initiative.

Jackie Jump Jorp

This might be of use to a decline-of-the-Spanish-empire episode: <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3304956-the-comanche-empire." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3304956-the-comanche-empire.</a> If I correctly understand the thesis of this book (I'm only 100 pages into it now), the author argues that the Comanche in the 1700s and most of the 1800s functioned somewhat like the mounted steppe tribes and empires of Central Asia: as a formally borderless and amorphous force that could still dominate territory. They could play neighboring nations, empires, and tribes against each other to their own benefit, amass power by alternately raiding and trading, and dominate massive regions. So in a time when Spain, if you looked at a map, supposedly controlled the entire western 'half' of North America, they could barely maintain villages along the Rio Grande and Pecos rivers in central New Mexico, where many towns suffered fear, famine, and depopulation, and military efforts to expand against the Plains tribes were rarely successful. The Spanish Empire was absent from the plains, and bogged down trying to support a fruitless region -- that MAY have played a role in the question you are looking into.