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Radio War Nerd EP #29—Nagorno-Karabakh War (Patreon)

Published:
2016-04-16 22:28:05
Edited:
2017-08-04 01:51:58
Imported:
2026-06

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Nagorno-Karabakh War: Armenians vs Azerbaijanis (+ oilmoney)

Merkel prosecutes German satirist to please Ergodan . . . War Nerd heading to Cambodia . . . Assassinations from Lincoln to Operation Nemesis . . . Italian friend jailed in Turkey for having pro-Kurdish Facebook posts . . . CIA's "Plan B" to arm the legendary Syrian moderates . . . Russian Sukhois buzzing US destroyer in the Baltics, and gloating at Americans . . . Long history of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Armenia & Azerbaijan . . .

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Vivek Dandekar

Hey guys. I’m several years too late here, but did anybody catch the name of the book Mark mentioned he was using as a source for the narrative on the first Nagorno-Karabakh war?

Mark Ames

Pretty sure it was Black Garden by de Waal.

Wyrd

There is a German "red state vote" but it has been historically weak. Merkel however is currently strengthening the "red state vote". The populist right/ national conservative party AfD has been founded in 2013 and is now polling nationally at 10 to 12.5 percent. So no. That kind of caving does not win Merkel any friends. Pretty much the opposite

Thilo Schulz

Wanted to compliment you on your reporting of the Merkel/Böhmermann situation, as it was pretty accurate given the resources you have about this subject in the English speaking world. I think this is important, because it makes it easier for me to trust you on issues that are outside my frame of reference.

Thilo Schulz

Some more background: Böhmermann recited a poem that he named "abusive criticism" which was extremely vile and laced with profanities. Still, I think the two of you would quite enjoy it, if you haven't seen it already. I found a really really excellent translation here on reddit (it actually rhymes!) plus all of the context: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/hrxwk9k" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/hrxwk9k</a> Also featuring a jab at Putin in the end (not in the poem though). Right now, Böhmermann will be prosecuted under a law prohibiting, as you already said on the show, to insult foreign leaders of state. That law was intentionally written such that the final decision whether prosecution continues lies with the federal government and is thus a political decision. For this chain of events to unfold, the Turkish government only needs to express a general desire for prosecution under this law. Now this is where it gets interesting: Erdogan did not take any chances and his lawyer in Germany reported Böhmermann to the state prosecutor in Germany. This is common criminal law and our polity has no influence on this process. So Böhmermann would have been prosecuted anyway. Bear in mind that Merkel knew that. Now, if you've read the context, you will see that this is not a clear-cut case. There have been many court decisions in Germany honouring the context in which perceived insults have been spoken and ruled in favor of the accused. The general expectation is that this will be the case here as well.

Eirik Haabet

On a technical note: Mark sounded like he was sitting across the room talking into a box. It was really hard distingushing his words at times, especially when he mumbled. Perhaps bad mic placement?

Patrick Conner

Good episode as usual. Again appreciate that the podcast feed is updating faster these days.

Eva Lacy

Come to Ireland :)

Kirilldozer

God damn, boys, please mix the volume up a little. I'm listening through headphones all the way up and can barely hear while walking outside.

Hanso

Hate to nitpick, but since you made the same mistake twice: Alloush's militia is the 'Jaish al-Islam' of (primarily) the Damascus area. 'Ahrar al-Sham' is far from as local- or clan-based. They're still pretty hardcore Salafi but have, from what I know, been quite relaxed with the sectarian rhetoric. However, their collaboration with al-Qaida is well-known and open. Speaking of 'Ahrar': Have you seen that there's a "Ahrar al-Najran" that is reortedly collaborating with the Houthis? Know nothing about how large or effective it is, and whether or not there's a serious insurgency on its way. Most of the stuff I find when I google the name in English and Arabic is either Russian or Iranian, so I don't know what to think.

Raffi Bilemjian

An interesting countervailing figure to Shamil Basayev that could have been brought up is Monte Melkonian (see book his brother wrote about him) who is a national hero in Armenia for his exploits on the battle field but who also had a fascinating life, born in Fresno, his grandparents were genocide survivors, he went on to Beirut where he actually trained with the PLO right before the civil war as he learned about their cause. Then went onto defending the Armenian ghetto of Beirut from all sides as Armenians tried to stay neutral. He was there in 82 and resisted with the PLO against the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Armenians like these who had fighting experience and were mostly hardline Dashnaks politically travelled to Kharabagh in numbers that were not insignificant which is probably where the word 'fedayeen' started off. What you also probably find interesting is that between 82 an 90 Monte was part of ASALA and carried out several hits on high level Turkish diplomats throughout Europe before ending up in Karabagh. Book is really interesting. I suggest it. Your guys conclusions about the diaspora and its role are absolutely dead correct. Thanks a lot for this one.