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Guest: Carl Zha, podcaster

Recorded: October 28, 2021

In part 2 of our series on the First China-US Cold War, we look at a handful of significant — and bloody — battles in the weeks and months after Mao's Communists took control of mainland China: The Battle of Kinmen, off the coast of China's southern Fujian province; the Battle of Dengbu, part of the Zhoushan island chain off the coast of Shanghai; and the Hainan Island Campaign in southernmost China. Kinmen Is. has long been the gateway from mainland China to Taiwan, and it's making a comeback as a flashpoint in the current Cold War sequel.

Listen to Part 1 (EP #301) of RWN's series on The First China-US Cold War.

Maps & Images:

*Kinmen Island

*Battle of Kinmen

*PLA boats training for Kinmen landing

*Dengbu, Zhoushan Islands

*Hainan Island

*Hainan Island campaign, 1950

*Anna Chennault & Friends

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Check out Carl Zha's podcast Silk & Steel. Follow Carl on Twitter.

Total time: 1:47:56

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Playdoh

Haven't started the first ep in this series but SUPER stoked to, and Carl Zha is always a great guest and the history of this is much harder to find than the US-Vietnam war for example.

Lionel Boyd Johnson

Been doing a deep dive on awesome guest Carl Zha, and what a character! Really digging this series, keep it going as long as it takes!

Arielle Curtin

I hope you will find time to discuss legacy of post WW2 failure to designate clear territorial boundaries (I am thinking in particular of continuing flashpoint Daoyu/Senkaku islands) and whose interests this serves. I would also like to point out that KMT were regarded as imperialist invaders, much like the Japanese occupation of Taiwan, by many local Han Chinese of Fujian descent, who were discriminated against and prohibited in public school, etc. from speaking their native dialect.

Of course

Terribly disappointed that you didn't play Jay Ungar's Ashokan Farewell violin tune from Ken Burns's Civil War series every time Carl Zha spoke. Missed a real "Shelby Foote" moment there.

Ryan Delaney

Just fantastic episodes, always a treat to have Carl

Doug Cartel

taiwan just had its independence day anniversary, right?

James Bradley

How do you guys feel the research and shows Dave Emory has been doing about Chiang Kai-Shek? Do y'all find him and his work legit? I always liked the guy but I don't think he's ever been mentioned here before. I guess y'all are in two different fields. I don't know. Just curious. Love the show

Josef

would be nice with some reading tips

Jacob

Carl mentioned there was a communist military leader who pretended to be a dead KMT recruit and rose through the ranks until being discovered and executed in 1983. Whats this guys name?

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Dorst Savijeski

Vietnam could have been largely a scene but nuclear flyovers...

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Hypothesis the Dragonball SNES game, that's a clone

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Porn never made the internet, internet was better pre 2002-2008

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Learning collaboration, see Dutch medical wiki, katalyse is a poison that makes stress and pushups???

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Dorst Savijeski

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Dorst Savijeski

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