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Radio War Nerd Episode #352 — The US Civil War, Part 12: Gen. John Pope & Second Battle of Manassas (Patreon)

Published:
2022-10-30 12:20:50
Edited:
2022-10-31 14:57:53
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2026-06
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Recorded: October 25, 2022

In this 12th installment in the our US Civil War series, the War Nerd reassesses the much-maligned performance of Union Gen. John Pope — and the West Point snakes around him — at the Second Battle of Manassas in 1862.

Maps

*Aug 29, 1862

*Aug 30, 1862

Previous RWN US Civil War episodes:

*EP #295: The US Civil War, Part 1: Count Adam Gurowski*EP #297: The US Civil War, Part 2: Bleeding Kansas*EP #300: The US Civil War, Part 3: First Battle of Bull Run*EP #303: The US Civil War, Part 4: McClellan, Treason & The Battle of Antietam*EP #307: The US Civil War, Part 5: Vicksburg*EP #311: The US Civil War, Part 6: Buchanan's Treason & The Mormon War*EP #315: The US Civil War, Part 7: German '48ers, with Matt Christman*EP #323: The US Civil War, Part 8: Thomas, Hood & Southern Honor*EP #327: The US Civil War, Part 9: War on the Water*EP #335: The US Civil War, Part 10: Battle of Shiloh*EP #340: The US Civil War, Part 11: Culture Wars (Live in Brooklyn) 

Music by Brendon Anderegg. Check out his project Mountains at Thrilljockey.

Total time: 1:31:06

Direct link to this episode's mp3 here 

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Comments

Mark Fartman

Wonderful episode! Wonder if there’s a chance of an espionage focused civil war episode. The discussion of treason among the generals is fascinating— I would be curious to gain context about counterintelligence practices, level of bureaucratic organization, etc

CR

There Will Be Blood was filmed out in oil & gas country in eastern New Mexico (aka Little Texas). It's a shithole.

Jason Thompson

I wanted to share a random Civil War related thing I heard about last week. My friend is a tattooist, and some (white) guy came up to him who had a huge Abraham Lincoln tattoo on his chest that he wanted covered up. Apparently he’d discovered that Lincoln wasn’t a perfect person. My friend offered to put clown makeup on Lincoln instead but the guy was like “No! I want him completely gone!” so my friend turned his chest into a huge black silhouette of nobody in particular. I definitely have thoughts on the impulsivity and lack of historical awareness of this dude on multiple occasions

Anders Scholl

not directly related to this episode, but listening to it i started wondering -- is the civil war series going to include anything on reconstruction? a subject maybe bigger than the war itself & not the main focus of the podcast, but i really hope there's at least an episode or two on it

xxx

Amazing episode! I was just thinking yesterday when the next civil war related episode was going to drop and BAM here we are. RWN is magic sometimes. Off Topic: Anyone interested in buying a copy of Pleasant Hell?

Jackie Jump Jorp

Hell yeah--when other New Mexico people call something "Texas," it's not meant as a compliment.

drizzly_november

Episode #204 from 2019 looked at Reconstruction as a dirty war. Good overview, but it's definitely worthy of its own series.

David Andrews

Consistently great content. Thanks again.

Gengeros

Any Popeheads here?

HarshMalarkey

Great episode! Why does it seem fitting for Halloween? Ball's Bluff is maybe not a prominent enough event for an episode, but as a local in the area its a cherished story of McClellan being an evil coward. Also the battle saw the only sitting U.S. Senator to die in combat.

xxx

That's ... weird. It's not like there's a ton of new information out there surfacing about Lincoln, unlike all the people with Kanye tattoos now.

WarOn WarOff

Wise Blood is the perfect Halloween movie.

Jason Thompson

I guess if you read that 1858 Lincoln speech when he was debating Douglas (“I’m not a radical, I support white supremacy, please vote for me”) it for the first time after getting Lincoln’s tattoo on your chest it could be a pretty bitter pill. In Terry Bisson’s alternate history SF novel “Fire on the Mountain” apparently Lincoln is one of the bad guys, since the Southern planters fall to a slave revolt and Lincoln attacks the revolutionary government “to preserve the Union.”

Brock

Brad Dourif was incredible in the video game Myst III: Exile despite some fairly outlandish material.

William

McClellan was a bitch

William

The self importance of the southern-friendly generals and the frank disgust/ disdain for anyone other than their social class feels like a characteristic of current liberal class as well

Matthew Wood

On Mark’s side note on patti smith trying to ruin Blondie’s careers - that probably post dates when Patti answered an ad for a place in Blondie - Debbie Harry relates somewhere that she turned up and proceeded to discourse critical on how various arrangements of blondie songs would be better if that went like such and such - Debbie was like, ‘who f is this entitled bitch’ and she didn’t get a call back …

a clash of purple

I would hope so. The period of official armed conflict between the Union and the Confederacy is only a part of the story, and you really need to understand the dirty wars fought beforehand in the territories and the successful Southern insurgency afterward to get the complete picture. A lot of Confederates went right on murdering Union troops and freedmen after the supposed cessation of hostilities, they just swapped out their gray uniforms for white hoods. I mean, if you don't talk about Reconstruction, you're left with the impression that the slavers and traitors lost the war. In reality, they might not have gotten their Confederacy, but they managed to at least hold on to their power both in the South and in the federal government, and the institution of slavery persists in all but name only to a large extent.

xxx

What are these worth now? Last I saw was a 1st ed for five hundred bucks?