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Radio War Nerd EP #379 — World of Wars: Bakhmut to Belfast (Patreon)

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2023-05-26 13:33:28
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2023-06-06 19:18:55
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Recorded: May 23, 2023

We talk 108th Rochester Regiment Civil War reenactments, end of the endless Battle of Bakhmut, GUR-trained & US armed neo-Nazis invading Belgorod...and then some cheerful news for a change, this time out of Ireland...

*Civil War funday fotos

Total time: 1:35:57

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Sound production by Telescope Audio Studios

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Ellen Harold

According to wikipedia Andriy Biletsky came from an aristocratic family in Kharkiv. As far as Fascism: “There is some discussion today as to whether the OUN ideology should be regarded as fascist or, as Lviv political scientist Oleksandr Zaitsev (b.1964) argues, is best described as 'Ustashism.' Like the Ustasha, the OUN sought to establish Ukrainian statehood and national palingesis* through a ‘revolutionary war of national liberation', or, as they referred to it, a 'Ukrainian national revolution'. The Ustasha, along with Italy and Nazi Germany came to play an important role as a source of inspiration and as a political ally of the OUN. In the early 1930s the two organizations trained their terrorists together at a joint training camp in Fascist Italy.” — Per Anders Ruling, “Terror Remembered: Terror Forgotten” (2019) in World War II Re-Explored: Some New Millennium Studies in the History of Global Studies (Berlin: Lang) . Rudling is a Swedish historian. This article is available on Academica dot Edu. *Palingenisis: In his book Fascism: An Introduction to Comparative Fascist Studies (Cambridge: Polity, 2018), Roger Griffin "uses the word 'Paligenisis' as a synonym for 'revolution’ to explore the mythic and even spiritual way fascists conceptualize a sense of total renewal, and project into the future a fantasy of creating an alternate modern world. (Think the Thousand-Year Reich.)" --from a 2018 book review by Paul Jackson, published by the Carr Center for Analysis of the Radical Right https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/2018/09/13/book-review-roger-griffin-2018-fascism-an-introduction-to-comparative-fascist-studies/.

Steven F

Great episode as always. To the NYTs credit, although belated, there is now a front page story explicitly calling the leader of the Belgorod incursion a neo-nazi. Get well soon John!

Doug Cartel

All I have to go off is stuff I read on the internet, but it seems like Zelensky was in a tug of war with two high-caliber generals, and the intelligence services have just been off on their own, doing their own thing almost since the start of the war. Now that Zaluzhny is doing the Where's Waldo thing, and Zelensky is globetrotting, it's hard to know what's really going on now. But yeah, Ukraine is definitely depleted after that fight in Bakhmut, and that was entirely avoidable imo. Decisive blunder. At least a bunch of confirmed Nazis died, though. The funniest part about this whole war is that both sides are calling each other gay, so both countries are draining their supply of homophobes over an unresolved territory dispute from the 90s. Seems like the real winner there is the secret GLOBOHOMO conspiracy or whatever conservatives call it. It's so fucking funny how ISW's war coverage will be like "so here's what russian trolls were saying on the internet today" and people think that's an actual analysis of the war.

a clash of purple

108 is one of those magical numbers. It's a sacred number in the Dharmic religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, and Jainism). The span of time between the Chicago Cubs World Series wins was 108 years. There are 108 double-stitches in a regulation baseball, the movies Taking Care of Business and Back to the Future Part II (which both predicted the Cubs would win a World Series in the future) are both 108 minutes long, 108 degrees Fahrenheit is the temperature at which the human body's internal organs start to shut overheat, etc..

Mark Ames

The bastards got wind of this episode. We have a leaker...

Mark Ames

Rossolinski-Liebe also argues they're closest to the Ustashe and it makes sense. The Austro-Hungarian Empire really puked up a lot of wonderful gifts to mankind.

Ellen Harold

Two of the most despicable organizations in the history of humanity. My maternal great-grandmother came from Galicia (can't find out where) in the 1880s. So I have been looking into that history. Every village that I look into as possible has been obliterated along with its inhabitants. 1881 was when Czar Alexander II was assassinated, resulting in a wave of terrible pogroms and concomitantly of emigration. According to my grandmother, her mother would only say: "You don't know how lucky you are to live in America." They wanted to forget the past. My father's family was from Texas (via Kentucky, Ireland, & northern England). My father's paternal grandfather was born in 1832 in Derry and served as a drummer boy in the Mexican War at the age of 14. My parents met in Greenwich Village, that great melting pot of aspiring writers and musicians.

Christian Carrillo

As always great and well rounded update. Just a few observations, I was in Moscow a couple of weeks ago and there’s method to the madness of taking things slow by the Russians. Everything is working normally over there and the population seems well informed and content. Also, no way they lost 100k in Bakhmut alone, they would be in general mobilisation if that were the case and no sign of that on the ground.

Gergely Gáli

Both the Ustashe and the OUN was founded AFTER the dissolution of Austria-Hungary. Maybe destroying it wasn't such a great idea?

Gergely Gáli

The Austro-Hungarian Empire did a lot of horrible thing. Which empire didn't? But you just can't blame it for stuff that happened AFTER its dissolution. It's like blaming the Soviet Union for what went on in Russia in the 1990's.

David Andrews

Great update guys. It is remarkable that there is never any news about Ukrainian casualties.

SB

The story of Belarus "forcing down" a RyanAir flight is a myth that will never die. There's CCTV footage out there that make it very obvious that nobody was looking for or expecting Protasevich or Sapega on that flight. Otherwise, that'd obviously be escorted off the plane first thing after landing. Instead, they deplaned along with other passengers, waited for quite some time in the transit zone, and even posted on Facebook about their ordeal. Only when they were going through the passport checks, they were identified, naturally, as being on the stop list. RyanAir inexplicably deleted cockpit recording against their own rules. The pilots were never publicly interviewed. There was some, likely intentional, confusion because there had been two emails with the threat, and ProtonMail refused to publicly comment on that. MoA covered this story extensively at the time - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/closing-the-case-of-regime-changer-roman-protasevich-and-his-ryanair-flight-to-minsk.html. But the myth lives on. I'm skeptical Protasevich was even a real Nazi or fought in Donbass. Looks more like a LARP media stunt in Mariupol that got blown out of proportion. But he did get into photos with real Nazis next to him, both Ukrainian and Belorussian, there.

SB

It's interesting that even Mearsheimer went to explain the basic artillery and attrition arithmetic recently - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-rHBRwdql8. He picked the low bar of 2:1 kill ratio, probably to protect the sensibility of the audience. I got a sense that he believes things are actually even worse in reality.

Keith O'Brien

I think Mark mixed up Biletsky and Sergei Korotkikh (also known as Boatsman). Biletsky is a Kharkov native, but Korotkikh fled Russia due to neo-Nazi activities and hooked up with like minded people in Ukraine.

Keith O'Brien

And the 'don't talk about Protasevich's neo-Nazi past' also has a dishonourable precedent from 2014, when Andreas Umland and a whole crowd of Ukrainian academics basically demanded that everybody not talk about the decisive Banderite presence among the Maidan protests. https://www.change.org/p/to-journalists-commentators-and-analysts-writing-on-the-ukrainian-protest-movement-euromaidan-kyiv-s-euromaidan-is-a-liberationist-and-not-extremist-mass-action-of-civic-disobedience

Aditya V

Enjoyed the report on the Rochester CW enactment and the actual regiment.

Jack Sorensen

Check out more of some of the civil war guys at libertyrifles.org

Patrick Friel

Thanks for trying to peer through the fog of war. I agree with you, this isn't a war between good and evil, despite what the US media say.

Lo

They have pretty good OPSEC. People were tracked down and prosecuted for sharing videos of Patriot batteries in operation, so I imagine anyone leaking strategically sensitive information is liable to be turbofucked by the GUR or whoever.

David Andrews

You must be correct. So we'll only read encouraging reports in the NYT etc. and no real news about Ukraine. Then in a few months or years we'll read a leaked Pentagon report describing how everyone knew this war was lost in 2022.

etienne

god i wish the Parti Québécois was like Sinn Féin

etienne

i was just road tripping the northeast, but by the time i got to northwest ny i was already exhausted and only went to Syracuse lol. i was really craving for a garbage plate and 'Cuse was surprisingly cute, so I'll try to pass by next time i hit the road

Joseph Lorfink

That shamrock on the monument may just be the 2nd corps unit patch

Shad Narcher

I worked for years unloading hopper cars like the one with the missing ammonium nitrate. It’s very easy to open the hoppers with something as simple as a two foot length of rebar. What’s not so simple is getting the material off the ground once it has dumped out. If the cars were stationary, I suppose you could shovel it into a wheel barrow and take it, but you would risk being run over should the train start moving. If the train started moving soon after the hoppers were opened, there would be probably a half-mile two-foot deep trail of material between the tracks, which I suppose could be shoveled up too, but it shouldn’t take much investigation to find it. As for a leak, maybe a single hopper would develop a leak, leaving significant material in the car. To leak the car empty, all three hoppers would need to be leaking. Not saying I know what happened, but if someone stole the stuff, they sweat for it.

Shad Narcher

Oh, I just noticed the RR was Union Pacific. UP has the shittiest hopper cars I’ve ever seen in service. Many of them were new in the 1970’s. I can actually believe one just leaked all of its cargo on the trip.

PW

Yeah, nice show dere, Markie Walnuts and Johnnyola. Nice show indeed.

Mark Ames

yep, Korotkikh, got my Nazis mixed up

Mark Ames

You were sooo close to the home of the garbage plate, you can practically smell it from Syracuse. Next time!

Ezra de Leon

Is the War Nerd a vegetarian or vegan? Is that why he needs B12 injections?

Freddy K.

@Radio War Nerd: Maybe it's just me, but there was no e-mail about episode #379.

Freddy K.

Yes. I double-checked. 18th May = EP#378, 25th May = EP#279 REPOST, 31st May = EP#380, but no mail for EP#379!

Yairo Martis

I didn't see it either. Good they re-posted.

Jason Thompson

Wow! Wouldn’t the big trail of nitrate be pretty easy to find though? Is it plausible that some folks scooped it all off the tracks?

Shad Narcher

If the hoppers rattled open a little along the way, you might not see much in one spot unless the train stopped. Also, this stuff is water soluble, so the weather could have washed it away. I guess we’ll never know for sure!

etienne

naah he's been carrying anemia for a while