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Recorded: September 16, 2023

The War Nerd heroically drags himself to the pod mic after spending 5-1/2 hours strapped to a Roman dentist's jackhammer, to discuss with Ames the death of the JFK magic bullet theory; Ethiopia's newest phase of its civil wars now with Amhara's Fano rebels; Armenia's doomed efforts to find an ally; and the latest in the Ukraine war...

Total time: 1:21:57

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NYCM&AHole

LBJ didn’t believe the magic bullet theory.

etienne

lol i havent been to the dentist in 5 years out of laziness and now im feeling a thing that is almost guaranteed to be the beginning of a cavity. solidarity

NYCM&AHole

I managed to not go to the dentist between 2017 (maybe 2018) and December 2022. Somehow I came out cavity free.

etienne

yeah i had a huge streak of good luck after a couple fills during my teenage years but it seems like my time is up

NYCM&AHole

Lol oswald never shot Kennedy.

Michael Schworetzky

The "magic bullet" is not "completely intact." It's crushed inwards like a soda can, and there's a big chunk of lead missing. You don't see this if you look at the pictures featured in shitty conspiracy theory books, but it's obvious if you look at shots that also show the bullet's backside (tried to post a link to an image and failed, just google it and you'll see what I mean.) More broadly, the bullet is not "magic" at all. Not only does it follow a straight path if you actually look how Kennedy and Connally were positioned, its the only explanation that fits the physical evidence. Doctors pulled lead fragments out of Connally's wrist, which wouldn't have happened unless the bullet hit while it was perpendicular to the bone. Modern ballistics tests using gel dummies show that is exactly what would have happened: the bullet would have begun to yaw and tumble through the air after it exited Kennedy. If it hit Connally first, it wouldn't have, and he wouldn't have those lead fragments in him, magic or no. I am a bit of an obsessive on this topic. I feel about Kennedy the way Jimmy Hoffa does in The Irishman. Even if you think I'm offbase with my opinion, just know my hate is pure.

a clash of purple

To Ames's wife's credit, some researchers are finally checking to see how much awareness and intelligence insects actually have, and it turns out the answer is "Quite a lot more than anyone assumed." This British guy gave bees tiny balls to play with and they were having fun rolling them around. They're also capable of assessing how unpleasant a task is based on prior experience, and pushing through personal discomfort for the sake of greater gain. Social insects also like to get drunk and party. It's not a subject that most scientists are interested in researching, though, since they use insects for a lot of experiments that involve insane cruelty and if bugs can feel then there would be ethical problems. So this is an instance where the animal rights advocates are absolutely right, and the scientific community is just reluctant to give up their test subjects. Also, Ames's story about the wasp attack amused me because the exact same thing happened to my older brother decades ago when he was mowing the lawn. In fairness to those wasps, though, they didn't attack him until he ran over their hive with the lawnmower.

a clash of purple

The only thing I'm absolutely certain of is that the official story promulgated by the U.S. government is a lie. What the truth is, who knows? Maybe George H.W. Bush and Ted Cruz's dad shot him and framed Oswald and then that psycho CIA doctor who was friends with Charles Manson hypnotized Jack Ruby into killing Oswald to shut him up. Maybe Jackie was tired of JFK's womanizing and hired the Mafia to kill him. Maybe the Illuminati got together, did a lot of drugs, and manifested tulpa bullets through their combined thought-energy to kill JFK because Qanon is real and he was about to expose their baby-eating cabal. I find some alternative explanations more believable than others, but all of them are 100% more plausible to me than the government's story.

Maciek

The person in the cover photos propaganda has been popping up on the various Russian pro war telegrams. And it’s wild to wonder whose it aimed for. I mean, it’s in English, but it’s so over the top 1940s cartoony that if people weren’t really dying, it’d be hilarious. But ya, something about a trans person being used for caliper measuring level view of “enemy” humanity. Ya, creepy fucking vibes from this particular war enjoyer and freedom defender.

David Andrews

Good episode and excellent comment on Korea vis a vis the Ukraine war.

MoldyTolge

The Zelensky quote from the end had my jaw on the floor. Ukraine is going to have a blue water fleet complete with a carrier by the end of this thing.

PostmasterFenian

You mentioned Hamid karzais brother is a drug runner is this the same brother that owns the Helmand and Helmand kabai in Baltimore? Those have to be some of the best restaurants I've eaten at and it would be interesting to know if they were financed by opium money

a clash of purple

shrug. Getting bogged down in the details of the assassination is part of how the Warren Commission covered up whatever really happened. Rather like 9/11, in that way. Alan Dulles and the CIA obviously did the Kennedy assassination, just like the Saudis conspired with the Bush administration to do 9/11, just like the entire Anglo ruling class killed Jeffrey Epstein. The details and provable facts don't matter, because the people responsible covered their tracks so well that you'll never find a smoking gun or whatever.

a clash of purple

Is anyone ever going to ask the Pentagon what they're doing with all that money if a basket case country like North Korea (or South Korea, for that matter) has greater stockpiles of actually useful weapons than all of NATO?

Alex Muir

Good episode & interesting take on the Kim & Putin meeting - looks like Russia does have options - who'd'a thunk... Those yellow-jacket wasps are bastards - we call them German wasps in NZ. I've had more than enough run-ins with them, especially when mowing fields. Not sure how effective spraying them from 20 feet away will be, so here's the recipe I used for getting rid of them. The entrance to their nests isn't that wide, about four or five inches, usually. So: 1. Get a bottle of wine. 2. Drink it as the sun goes down - this reduces common sense and raises bravado to the levels required for the task at hand. 3. Half or 3/4 fill the empty bottle with petrol. 4. Dress according to how brave you now feel - boots, trousers, long-sleeved shirt and gloves & hat in my case, and get a torch. 5. Approach the nest and quickly shine the torch on the entrance - there should be very little activity once it's dark. 6. Walk rapidly up to the nest and jam the bottle into it, top-down, so the petrol runs out. 7. Run away, waving hands around head and neck. Shrieking is optional. Nearly all of the wasps will be killed by the petrol fumes; there may be a few stragglers left outside but they can't get in the nest, anyway, and will soon disappear. Good luck!

Michael Schworetzky

“Getting bogged down in the details of the assassination” is precisely what Mark did. In my view he did so incorrectly, hence my post. And no, I don’t think it’s at all clear that the CIA killed Kennedy. They had no need to, since he was a died in the wool Cold Warrior. People make the argument that he’d somehow changed, but given that he was plotting what would become the 1964 Brazil coup when he was shot I don’t give that a lot of credence. Plus, he was the most blackmailable man in the country, constantly cheating on his pretty, popular wife. Even if they saw him as a threat, there was no need to kill him. Especially with Oswald, whose names are all over a ton of CIA documents they’re still sitting on. If you want to kill someone, you don’t go with a guy you’ve pressed into COINTELPRO shit like they had with Oswald. You go with someone like Jack Ruby, someone who doesn’t have an extensive paper trail connecting them back to you. This is barely scratching the surface of why the CIA conspiracy theory makes no sense. If you’re the CIA, how do you even let him get out of the Book Depository? Do you really not have a better contingency option than having a two-bit mobster shoot him on live TV? The whole thing unravels if you think about it for even a moment. The more sensible explanation has always been that Oswald was press ganged into anti-communist surveillance as a condition to un-defect himself, snapped, and shot JFK. The inept scramble to cover up everything makes much more sense in that light.

Cory

I think Sarah A-C was referring to a trial or God forbid execution or something of Gonzalo Lira.

Tom Dossett

The smoking gun, as it were, is that the kill shot was a different type of bullet to the others. I believe it was some type of hollow point which is why it disintegrated into shrapnel like shards which ripped the head apart. Explains why Oswald thought he was a patsy.

Michael Schworetzky

Incorrect. It was also a Carcano FMJ. It ripped apart because it hit skull bone, which is pretty thick. Modern ballistic tests can replicate this. Look up Luke Haag. His work was featured on a NOVA special on the subject if you want to see actual video evidence.

JBS

For someone "obsessive" on the JFK assassination you don't seem very informed on the topic.

Michael Schworetzky

How so? Can you actually point out something I’ve said that’s wrong?

William

Cmon man, no need to be a dick

William

Re: jfk - the RFK assassination actually does a better job of proving a conspiracy to kill JFK than anything surrounding JFK. Sirhan is easily proven not guilty and the motive for killing RFK is clear - stop him from getting to the bottom of his brother’s death. Anyways, to paraphrase Mr. X in JFK (1991), the who and the how is just a distraction to keep you from asking why, and asking who benefits

Matt McCartney

Interestingly, ten years ago on the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination, a different Secret Service agent came forward and told the exact same story as Paul Landis is telling now. Is this an example of credit seeking in the same way as multiple SEALS claiming to be the one who killed Bin Laden? Hell if I know. But it's yet another strange anamoly in a case that's full to overflowing with them.

Yairo Martis

Here's hoping John wasn't Marathon Man'd by a Gladio dentist.

Dongo

Mr Dolan, I sympathize greatly with your situation and wish you all the best, but I hope you realize that your eloquence in describing the various experiences of suffering you have endured is truly a credit to you among the annals of famous suffering Irishmen in history

a clash of purple

The CIA et al didn't kill Kennedy because they thought they couldn't manipulate him or whatever, they killed him for petty revenge because they blamed him for the Bay of Pigs, he fired Alan Dulles, and he was hostile towards the CIA for dumping their bullshit on him. As for why they decided it had to be so dramatic, who knows? I know it's a cop-out, but the people involved are some of the craziest bastards who've ever lived to begin with, and on top of that they were all drunk and high and intoxicated with their own power. These are the same lunatics who oversaw the Manson Family and who knows how many other cults and serial killers, not to mention some truly depraved atrocities outside the United States.

Michael Schworetzky

Sorry, that makes absolutely no sense. Plenty of people have done far worse to the CIA than Kennedy did without getting shot. Dulles stayed fired. Kennedy was not hostile to the CIA after Bay of Pigs beyond implementing the reforms laid out in General Taylor’s Board of Inquiry that Dulles was a member of, and whose report he endorsed. There was absolutely no way Dulles was going to keep his job after a fuck up like the Bay of Pigs. The CIA may be evil, but they are not a Lovecraftian monster whose motivations are so alien that men will go mad if they try to ponder them too deeply. Ironically enough, going too far in that direction actually absolves the people who are above it in the executive branch, like JFK, of their responsibility for the evil acts they order and condone.

ElGatoMalandrin

I choose to believe that the New Orleans mafia killed JFK because the idea of them flying in a Corsican hitman to do it is too badass.

Eric Snow

Regarding the magic bullet theory, I remember seeing this documentary decades ago which used forensic recreation of the shooting using the Zapruder film. This is the piece of the documentary where they argue that the bullet path was not magic or unusual if you account for the seat heights and the positions of the people in the car visible in the Zapruder film. All I can say is the version of this movie that I saw didn't have Peter Jennings narrating. The sound of Peter Jennings voice makes my nipples harder than pepperonis. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8AlKUJHXYxQ

SB

The topic of JFK assassination was very well covered by Aaron Good in his American Exception podcast (https://www.patreon.com/americanexception/). I keep suggesting to invite him to RWN. The story of JFK's brain alone plus a big piece of him skull found later, when looked closely, IMO leaves no reasonable doubt that the official story is a coverup conspiracy. Aaron is a recovering academic who stands on the shoulders of giants like Peter Dale Scott and C. Wright Mills. His dissertation turned into AE book is a must read. The Armenian conundrum I think is more complicated than it seems on the surface. The explanation that made the most sense to me is that after the disastrous 2020 war most Armenians realized that there's no way to save Artsakh/Karabakh from being reabsorbed by Azerbaijan. There's no legal basis to justify its independence, and the Azerbaijan/Turkey/NATO alliance is not something Armenian diaspora can turn around. Hence, they want to sell out Artsakh, but somehow without losing face and honor (which is still a relatively big deal in the Caucuses). Pashinian's role is to do that. That's why they didn't kick him out after the lost war. He needs to do the dirty job of betraying Artsakh. Blaming Russia is just a smokescreen. I can't know for sure if this theory is correct, but it explains the otherwise seemingly illogical behavior of Armenians.

a clash of purple

I don't absolve JFK of anything. And don't bring Lovecraft into it; these people's motives are very clear, even childishly simplistic at times, just their methods are crazy.

Jaime Christley

The guys who put up some fencing in my yard uncovered some ground wasps and, long story short, that was how one of them discovered he was allergic. He turned out ok but he insisted having his cousin drive him to their local doctor, about an hour away, and he was definitely having a bad reaction all the way there. I truly did not know bees / wasps etc could be *in the ground*; what I think happened is they took up residency in a vacant rabbit warren and that was that. But to reiterate what a lot of folks have already said: ground wasps are SONS OF BITCHES who need zero provocation to attack, unlike most of the other flying stinging guys. My solution wasn't to DIY go after them but to have an exterminator / pest control pro come by. My understanding is that a civilian can get such-and-such spray from the hardware store and whatnot, but the pest control folks have the Real Shit. So they came by that day and the following day and pumped some chemical weapons into those spots. Haven't had a problem since. Also, this guy Landis was *behind* the JFK car? That detail alone is giving me the fantods.

Michael Schworetzky

I’d say plotting to kill the President of the United States because he fired you for a justified reason is pretty crazy! Especially if despite that firing, you are apparently still de facto running the CIA, which Dulles would need to be to pull all this off.

Michael Schworetzky

RFK took the brain. This has been known since the House Select Committee on Investigations, where the secretary who’d been put in charge of the brain and a bunch of other samples testified to that effect.

Demented Avenger

That Sarah A-C clip sounded like something Pamela Gellar (remember her?) would have posted about Muslims 15 years ago

Jaime Christley

The Warren Commission Report was never intended to convince anyone - most people never bought it. The point was everybody from LBJ on down was told to get in line with it, or else face dire consequences. Maybe your career gets kneecapped. Maybe you get labeled a conspiracy crank. Or maybe you end up shooting yourself twice in the back of the head.

Mark Ames

Yeah I only understood that ground wasps are a real thing a year or so ago. Now I know it for an intimate fact.

Jaime Christley

One of my dogs is an incorrigible diggy boy and I'm just grateful we haven't had them come back demanding a rematch.

Mr Bean

The media self-censorship with regard to the flood in Derna is infuriating. I read an article that mentioned something about how Libya has been subjected to “foreign interference” but didn’t name the foreigners or describe the interference. What I wouldn’t give for a journalist to ask Clinton how she feels about her role in this the next time she does a media appearance for whatever stupid Netflix limited series she’s working on with her dumb daughter. But alas, it will never happen.

M

Armenia is in a really difficult geopolitical situation, thanks for shedding light on it. Mark, you touched on an important point about how Azerbaijan now claims all of Armenia; this is but one example among many spurious claims Azerbaijan, as well as Turkey, has tried to mainstream in the academy, and are ones they have used to indoctrinate their people in order to inculcate even more extreme hatred for Armenians in their peoples. The reality is there are archives full of literature, studies, published works, etc., that completely contradict this absurd propaganda. People who spend time studying the region often fail to factor this into their analysis and thereby fail to realize that one side’s true intentions are genocide (Azerbaijan), whereas the other’s is trying to hold on to what little piece of their indigenous land they have left (Armenia).

a clash of purple

I don't think Dulles was the only conspirator. The people who killed JFK are the collection of CIA agents, Minutemen, and anti-communist Cuban terrorists who blamed him for the failure of the Bay of Pigs. Dulles was part of the conspiracy, but only part of it.

Michael Schworetzky

There is no “fake brain.” There’s just the one. The HSCA was pretty clear on that.

Mark Ames

It's grim as hell

Michael Schworetzky

That doesn’t really explain why Dulles would risk killing JFK over a firing that, in your world, did not actually impede Dulles’s power and influence at all.

PostmasterFenian

Interesting apparently both Qayum and Mahmood have Helmand restaurants around the US.

Smallbusinessman

At one point they mention an Economist (iirc) article where the USA mentions they have been helping the Ukraine find targets in Russia. Does anyone know which article they are talking about? Quick googling did not find it.

SB

Blakey himself in 2003. "I now no longer believe anything the Agency told the committee any further than I can obtain substantial corroboration for it from outside the Agency for its veracity. We now know that the Agency withheld from the Warren Commission the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro. Had the commission known of the plots, it would have followed a different path in its investigation. The Agency unilaterally deprived the commission of a chance to obtain the full truth, which will now never be known. Significantly, the Warren Commission's conclusion that the agencies of the government co-operated with it is, in retrospect, not the truth. We also now know that the Agency set up a process that could only have been designed to frustrate the ability of the committee in 1976-79 to obtain any information that might adversely affect the Agency. Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp."

Michael Schworetzky

What does the CIA hiding their knowledge of Oswald have to do with the (correct) conclusion of the HSCA that the autopsy material was not fake and the single bullet theory correct? The man doesn’t say he thinks that there’s a second, hidden brain.

Robespierre was Right

Crillo? However it’s spelled gives me the creeps. It’s the bad acting, glee, and flat affect that just sends warning signals. I’d seen her once or twice before the video y’all talk about. I figured she was there to just piss off the Russians given that she’s trans, but there’s something far more unsettling to her. Also 100% she’s a right-winger. She probably got sick and tired of her group shitting on her. They’re not so fun when you’re the target. Hopefully Russia does us all a favor there

cl

Three fascinating articles in the Economist today, all in chorus with Thomas Friedman's piece last weekend in the Times. Negative tone, fundamental admission that attrition and a long war is the only way forward. Their solution: indigenous Ukrainian military industrial production. Issues of potential Russian missile attacks on industrial sites, indigenous Russian industrial capacity, and 0 history of Ukrainian industrial capacity since USSR are brushed aside. They really have no plan, truly incredible. Sorry, they do have one silver bullet solution: "bolder sanctions, such as expulsion from the Paris Olympics". That should do it!

a clash of purple

Who would work in these theoretical Ukrainian factories? I would think every young able-bodied person still in the country has already been conscripted at this point. They didn't have a lot of military-aged people remaining to begin with. Both Ukraine and Russia are severely depopulated countries, and that loss of manpower will hurt Ukraine worse than Russia because their population was smaller to begin with. If Russia could maintain the will to fight indefinitely, they could probably win the war eventually by just waiting for everyone left in Ukraine to either die or move away...

cl

Yes, they acknowledge that the depopulation of Ukraine is an issue, particularly in the context of ongoing mass immigration to Europe. Their proposed solution is to offer incentives to start businesses in Ukraine, and encourage migration away from the East+Centre of the country and toward the relatively safer West where productive industry can be headquartered. Seems fantastical.

Chloe Interferometry

If you crumple up a big brown paper bag to look like a massive nest, the wasps will leave town

Ilya Fishman

John said 'Israeli' diaspora. Haha you meant Jewish diaspora, air. Not all of us are citizens of Israel.

Pepipopa

Israeli diaspora would be zionists who live outside Israel wouldn't it?

Ilya Fishman

Idk. I've never heard anyone use that term. Would an Israeli Arab or Druze living in France be 'Israeli' diaspora? Imho the whole situation with Armenia shows that unless the 'home country' hitches itself up to the right empire, no amount of diaspora influence will help.

SB

Blakey's interview shows IMO that years later he realized to what extent he was played by the CIA and that his whole investigation became essentially another coverup, just like the Warren Commission. 42 witnesses testified that they saw a massive "baseball size" hole blasted out of the back of JFK's head. Pieces of his brain and scull got scattered over the back of the limousine, Jackie's dress, and hit police officers on motorcycles hard. It's simply inconceivable that his brain would weigh 1500 grams after that. The Harper fragment that was found later at Dealey Plaza was a big piece of the back of JFK's skull that has "mysteriously" disappeared from FBI's custody. Yet the official autopsy photos show back of JFK's skull and brain mostly intact. John Stringer, the photographer who took the autopsy photos, testified that the official photos in the case are not those that he had taken (different film brand, different technique) and that he saw with his own eyes JFK's cerebellum completely shattered while the official photos show it undamaged. There's more than enough circumstantial evidence like that to conclude that the only explanation of these inconsistencies is that the brain was replaced at Bethesda, presumably to conceal the fact that the kill shot came from the front.

Mark Ames

You mean just leave a big crumpled brown paper bag right next to the nest?

Shfifty_five

The magic bullet is essentially a red herring. There's much more compelling evidence. Trueanon, Aaron Good, and Ben Housetrotter did an excellent multi-part expose on Oswald's military/CIA asset background, contacts, history and agency politics, the commissions, Ruby, and the assassination itself. With what we know now, I think it's pretty clear that the CIA killed JFK.