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Poll - Taking the Pulse - How do the current stories and pacing feel to you? (Patreon)

Published:
2025-07-20 14:40:44
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Poll - Taking the Pulse - How do the current stories and pacing feel to you?

  • The stories feel a bit too long for my taste. 4
  • I wish there were more explicit sex scenes. 69
  • The pacing feels just right to me. 73
  • I enjoy having several stories at once, but it’s hard to keep track sometimes. 30
  • I’d love to see even more different stories or side projects. 6
  • I’d love to see more short formats or one-shots. 17
  • I think the balance between story and sex is good. 116
  • I’m mostly here for the characters and emotional beats. 18
  • I’m mostly here for the sex. 24
  • Other (feel free to comment if you’d like to share more). 6
  • 2025-07-20
  • 363 votes
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Content

Hello there,

While the current projects are progressing nicely, I’ve noticed a drop in overall activity over the past three months.

The data doesn’t give me a clear picture of what’s going on, so rather than guess — and risk making the wrong assumptions - I’d rather ask you directly.

Think of this as a simple way to better understand how you’re experiencing this Patreon and the current stories: their pacing, tone, and format.

This won’t affect the stories already in progress - those are fully written and storyboarded - but your feedback will help guide how I approach future projects.

It’s a single-question poll, but you can select multiple answers.
Feel free to leave a comment if you'd like to share more.

Thank you in advance!

How do the current stories and pacing feel to you?

Comments

Silver

Mainly here for The Bad Girl and Red Knight, and I think those are both being handled pretty well tbh.

Maus lover

I love these comics because they actual stories and not just some bulls*it plot twist or things that would drop the intrest.

FastTquick

I really like your stories because they take fan-favorite furry character pairings and putting them in hot, romantic sexual encounters. But it’s not sex for the sake of it. These comics add some satisfying story plot points. Wanted is a very good example of what to do with these beloved characters.

Sprint

As everyone else says, loving the balance, sex is just sex, but when there’s a story and a buildup, you become far more invested in those characters, and then when the sex happens, it’s far more erotic/hot. Could the drop simply be down to the fact it’s summer, people have other hobbies and activities/commitments? I don’t think you’re doing anything “wrong”.

Lummh & Co

I dunno if it's related to summer as last year, summer was our highest growth ever since we started this Patreon.

FastTquick

This is a better explanation of things than I could ever come up with myself. If I could add-on to this, I think the sex scenes should be satisfyingly explicit like some of the votes have suggested.

Sprint

Totally agree.

Lummh & Co

"I think the sex scenes should be satisfyingly explicit like some of the votes have suggested." The vote is "more explicit sex scenes" aka more numerous/longer. Are the sex scenes not explicit enough? oO

FastTquick

I don’t care how explicit and long you make the sex scenes as long as they are good and hot. I think you’re doing a great job so far Lummh. I wouldn’t worry too much. 😊

Leo G.

I'd like some of the stories to be even longer, actually. Or have a long form narrative that goes with them like we are getting with Breaking Point. Wanted, Tigress, Diane, etc.

Sprint

I actually REALLY like what you’re doing in Breaking point, with the art, and the story telling separated out. You can tell a much more detailed story, especially in erotic elements, without cluttering up art with additional text. This is a format I really like. Maybe lean into that more.

Lummh & Co

Ah, it’s a format I’m not very comfortable with. English isn’t my native language, so writing such elaborate descriptions can be quite challenging for me. Still, I agree it could be an interesting addition. LOKA is sort of my attempt to fill that niche, but you're right — maybe I could try similar spin-off stories with other characters too. As for Breaking Point, that one was actually illustrated by my wife, but we’ve realized she can’t keep up with that kind of project long-term. So if we want to keep making more stories like that, I’d probably need to find someone else… and more funds to pay them, too.

Leo G.

If you're in need of an editor I'd be happy to help. I've done that kind of work before on some MLP-related stories (less "spicy" in nature, but fairly complex). If you like links to that as a reference send me a DM on Discord and I can provide them.

ArmoredOpossum

A few thoughts: 1) Not sure Patreon itself is really a great place to find solid constructive criticism since this is an audience comprised entirely of people that like you enough to pay you to do what you do, which is why the majority of feedback here has been "you're doing great, keep it up!" Nothing wrong with positivity, but I'm not sure it's helping solve any issues either. 2) With that said, I'm not really sure what the issue is, exactly? Like what is "drop in overall activity" referring to? The channel still seems to be doing fine in terms of support (there's been a bit of a plateau recently but you can't expect consistent rates of growth in any business, furry porn or otherwise). Is this referring to engagement on posts like comments and likes? 3) If it is engagement we're talking about, I wonder if story selection is playing a role in that. The answer I selected in the poll was "I enjoy having several stories at once, but it's hard to keep track sometimes" and it looks like there were others that shared a similar sentiment. I'm not sure this is really getting at what I think the core of the issue is though. 4) More of a "3a" really, but your comics are very intertwined with both the lore and aesthetic of the source material, and there is at least some expectation that the reader has some level of familiarity with the characters at the start. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this on its own, and this tends to work well for people that do have that familiarity, but if you don't it can be difficult to get invested. For example, I don't know much about League of Legends lore, so while I really like the art direction for Thrill of the Hunt I feel like I have no idea who these people are or what's happening and it's hard to get invested. I had the same issue with the Freya Crescent one. I wonder if a quick character synopsis or something in the description for the first page would be helpful in getting people that aren't familiar with the source material caught up so they understand the context better and can be more engaged. 5) I'd also suggest changes to the interest polling system to better determine what stories audiences are really interested in. The current system has a HEAVILY positive bias that I think sometimes reflects more enthusiasm for a project than is actually present. "I'd read it" is a pretty low standard - outside of a few things that I just cannot get into, I'd read pretty much anything, even if I'm not excited about it. I think adding at least a fourth option like "I'd read it but I'm not that stoked about it/I'd rather read something else" could help better prioritize projects if you're looking for more audience engagement.

Sprint

Well allow me to say, as a native Englishmen, I’d never had know English wasn’t your first language!

Lummh & Co

to Leo G. Thanks for the offer, but an editor wouldn't help in my case. It's just way more time consuming than writing only dialogues, that all :v

Lummh & Co

1) Yeah, I realized that about an hour after posting. It definitely feels good to see such positive results, right, but it indeed doesn’t really help in figuring out why things are happening. 2) Up until 3 months ago, I had a 2/3 new sub to 1/3 cancellation ratio. But since, that’s flipped, and even gone negative, with more cancellations than new subs. That suggests this format has lost some of its appeal, and I’m trying to understand what could be improved. I know it’s normal to hit a plateau at some point, but it still feels a bit early for that. 3) I do think the “I enjoy having several stories at once, but it’s hard to keep track sometimes” feedback might be part of the problem, even if it’s a minor one. Not really sure how to fix that though. All the comics are already pinned to their respective Collections folders to make rereading easier. Still, I’m not sure what else I could do to help. 4) That’s a great idea! I’ll start adding that info to the description of every cover page, both past and future. Thanks for the suggestion! 5) I dunno. “Not interested” already seems to cover that feedback well enough, imo?

ArmoredOpossum

2) So, I'm not a creator so I don't know what you see on your end, but from the public numbers I can see on Graphtreon the gross increase in subs was about the same in the first 6 months of '24 and '25. Rate is a lot lower because your starting point was so much higher in '25, but that doesn't seem particularly alarming - just because there's a plateau right now doesn't mean that's eternal. Growth was very sluggish Q1 '24 but you absolutely EXPLODED Q3 '24 (there's probably a concrete reason, I'll get to that) so things can change rapidly. There was a dip from May to June, but otherwise looks mostly healthy. Two things to note here are 1) external factors may be causing issues. There is some degree of economic uncertainty in some geographic areas right now that may be influencing where and how people spend their money; and 2) from the comments last week there may have been some departures over the LoK thing. Not trying to litigate that here, just being objective based on observation. 3) Right, so, I don't think I got my point across there correctly - I think 4 and 5 were the bigger issues, but that poll answer was just the most proximate one to those. I'm not sure if there is any action to be taken on keeping track specifically. 4) Well, if nothing else at least I contributed something :D 5) Well, no, I disagree and that was kind of the point of my original comment. I think that may be the intent, but that's not how it comes across. "Not interested" is juxtaposed against "I'd read it", which makes "not interested" read as "I will not read this", which is a different answer than "I will read this, but would prefer something else." I think this is pushing people towards "I'd read it" which is why the results skew so positive. If it was me, I'd actually have 5 levels of interest on the poll, but 4 is probably fine. To illustrate my point here, the spike in Q3 '24 aligns fairly closely with the public releases for Wanted, which also have your highest scores on E6 other than a few Bad Girl pages. What I infer from this information is that you had your largest increase when you found a niche (wholesome, high quality NSFW Robin Hood/Maid Marian comic) for which there was an absence of existing content and a lot of audience interest (it also helps that you crushed it - I think that was your strongest comic so far, but the main point still stands). It's your ship and I'm not gonna tell you how to run it, but if sub count and income is your primary pain point right now (makes sense) and you're looking for another huge hit like that to drive up your popularity I'm not sure why you wouldn't want your data to be more granular to more accurately assess interest.

Lummh & Co

2) Economic uncertainty might be the strongest influencer I'd suppose, as LOKA did make me loose some subscribers but I managed to get some back, and new people joined too at that moment. It's only days before and after that I saw the most loss. I think it's maybe because The Bad Girl doesn't show much lewd these days. Thankfully, it's something that will change quite soon. I didn't know of Graphteon! Although my graphs have different data. 4) Already started to work on it! I'll add a page alongside the cover so it'd look better than just a description! 5) You mentioned 5. What would those 5 be? I wouldn't be able to go for 5 however, as Twitter allows only 4. But I'd still be interested to see your full spectrum. Wanted started to release around April 2024 tho. Unless showing Marian's legs had THAT MUCH of an impact (as it was the page of July). I can understand the appeal, but that much? That seems unlikely to me. However, the end of Wanted might be a reason why I got many loss. I'm just surprised it'd take months for people to unsubscribe after its ending, but I can see them wanting to see if the next comic will be as good, or simply forgetting to unsubscribe.

ArmoredOpossum

2) External factors are typically the simplest answer imo. From totally anecdotal, non-empirical observation, patrons seem to be hesitant to withdraw subs once they're in unless 1) there are outside factors; 2) there is a serious disconnect between what the creator is promising and what is being delivered; or 3) the creator has done something specific to piss them off. Generally, you'd know if 2 or 3 were applicable. Graphtreon is lovely if you're a spreadsheet-loving loser like me, though it has become less helpful since less Patreon information is public than it used to be. You likely have loads more data than I do, which is why I couched my previous statement. 5) Yeah, I'm not on Twitter so I wasn't aware of those limitations. My five would generally look like (wording isn't set in stone, just ideas): - I love this! - I like this! - I'm fine with this, but not as excited about it as other projects. - I'm not particularly interested in this, but I'd still read it to see where it goes. - I'm not interested in this at all. There's a bit of nuance between the third and fourth level that I'd want to see if I was a creator, but you can merge those if you're limited to four. Basically the idea is, to use some hypothetical bullshit numbers, if you have 20% love, 70% like, 10% dislike in the current system, you see 90% positive and immediately think this is a great idea. If you have 20% love, 20% like, 50% like, but prefer something else, 10% dislike, that's an entirely different result and looks a lot less enthusiastic. 20% love, 20% like, 20% like but prefer something else, 30% not particularly interested but would read, 10% dislike is different still (in a more nuanced way), and now you're looking at 40% legitimate interest when previously you thought you had 90%. Re: Wanted - oh, you don't think Marian's legs are that appealing? Smdh you monster. I'm joking - the actual rationale makes more sense. One of the primary perks of subbing to the Patreon (aside from flinging your money at people you think are cool) is seeing pages in advance. So you're not subbing because of the page you saw publicly, you're subbing because of the NEXT one. The July page was the start of the NSFW content for Wanted. If you see Marian undressing on Page 4 on E621, the implication is that she is *undressed* on Page 5, and if you want to see Marian undressed RIGHT NOW, then you mosey on over to the Patreon and buy the ticket. It's not the only reason - you were riding high off an S-tier scene in The Bad Girl at the time so you had a lot of momentum as well, but I think it had a lot more of an impact than you're seeing. To reiterate a previous point, I don't think a statistically significant number of people left because Wanted ended. Once people are in, they tend to stay in unless something prompts them to leave. I just bring up Wanted because I think that was your best method of bringing people in from 2024 onwards.

Lummh & Co

5) I get your point, but that’s not how I personally interpret my own polls. The options I focus on the most are the first (people who might actually support it) and the third (people who would avoid it). I actually try to gauge passion, either in favor or against. What falls in between is more vague, but I don’t mind that. I’m mainly trying to identify clear fans and those who dislike the idea. For instance, seeing a lot of people choose “Not interested” for Fortnite made me drop that idea entirely. Similarly, if there are too many “I’d read it” votes, that tells me the interest is passive, and likely won’t translate into actual support, which means the project wouldn’t be financially viable anyway. That’s why I only focus on the first and third options. As for Wanted and The Bad Girl, I understand your point, and that might explain the subscriber peak in July - August last year. But it doesn’t account for the recent drop in subscribers during the past 3 months, especially since everything was still running smoothly just a few months ago. So I guess it's probably just external factors, which, sure, I can't do anything about it, but I feel that's not it. That something more important could be done.

ArmoredOpossum

Yeah, I wouldn't focus so much on the subscriber drop, but rather just be more proactive looking towards the future. Like the two lowest performing projects right now are Thrill of the Hunt (28% yes, 58% maybe, 14% no) and The Red Knight (no real interest poll, just an A or B against Treasure Planet) and maaaayyyyybe those two shouldn't have moved forward. Current poll shows little appetite for having more projects going on at once so I think the best path forward is just making sure that the projects you pick after some of the current ones wrap up are bangers that'll draw people in. Not trying to be trite or tell you things you already know, but if you get another big hit that will more than offset folks trickling out. Maybe that comes from new developments in The Bad Girl, maybe that comes from KFP, maybe that comes from something else down the line. More detailed polling is how I'd try to sort that out, but do whatever you think is best. Also worth reiterating that despite some drops, I don't think you need to be at panic stations or anything yet. You still have plenty of support; just hang in there and make what tweaks you can along the way.

Lummh & Co

Thrill of the Hunt got 62% yes, 33% maybe, and the rest no — with 961 votes. I did run those polls here, yes, but also on SubscribeStar and Twitter. After all, I mainly rely on new subscribers (who might not be here yet) to support upcoming projects. In terms of support, Thrill of the Hunt might not currently have the highest stats, and that’s expected, given its slower start story wise, but it does have the highest number of dedicated supporters. It has double or even triple the backing compared to other comics. I believe that’s because its target audience, League of Legends fans, are already used to paying for cosmetics, so paying for a comic isn’t that much of a stretch for them. As for The Red Knight, yeah… I expected better from a comic starring Rouge the Bat. I actually launched that one before doing interest polls, and I was pretty confident it would perform well. That said, I don’t really choose which character will be next. Usually, I find an artist whose style I love, contact them, see which characters they’re passionate about, and then, depending on a few factors (my inspiration, the art style, whether a comic about that character already exists, etc.), we build a story around one of their favorites. For example, in the case of The Red Knight, Rouge was the artist’s absolute favorite female furry character. And since I personally prefer Blaze, I looked for a way to bring both into the same universe. The result was admittedly quite niche. So yes, I do pay attention to character popularity to some extent, but it’s not my main focus. I’d love to do a comic about Alopex from TMNT, even though she’s fairly obscure, like I did for Freya Crescent. On the flip side, someone like Judy Hopps or Porsha would probably bring easy numbers, but I just can’t find stories that interest me with them. Also, speaking of tweaks, I’ve started adding character descriptions to some of the comics for people who aren't familiar with them. You can already find them in The Bad Girl, Wanted and The Children of Burmecia on the Full page and the Cover page!

ArmoredOpossum

That's fair on Thrill of the Hunt - I did not consider the Twitter and SubscribeStar polls. That was dumb of me, my bad. ^^" Makes sense though, usually there's more attention on the hornier pages, but I guess since the opening scene in that one involves randoms instead of the girl the target audience is interested in there's less enthusiasm right now. Also, to clarify, I'm not just arguing for "do the more popular character" - the "demand" part is important but so is the "supply". That was my original point with Wanted - not a lot of RH/MM comics, but also a lot of interest. I don't think Judy would really do great numbers to be honest - would be the same issue as Loona. Too much supply rather than not enough demand, would be hard to stand out from the million other Nick/Judy comics out there. (Not criticizing the Loona decision - I saw the comments about the delays causing you to miss the moment where you might've hit the sweet spot. Also not saying Jealousy is doing *poorly* per se, but just not as well as The Bad Girl or Wanted, and that the most well-received page is the one that Loona isn't in). Same kind of thing might apply to Rouge too. Red Knight definitely stands out from other Sonic comics, but I wonder if maybe the Sonic fandom isn't drawn in because the style is *too* different from the cartoony style they generally gravitate towards and there's already plenty of Rouge to go around. Checked out both descriptions and they're looking great so far!

Lummh & Co

Yeah, we’re actually pretty proud to have made what’s probably the only vanilla Robin Hood/Maid Marian comic in the past 50 years, if you can believe that. There was definitely demand for it, haha. At least as far as I know. I always do some research before starting a new comic to make sure I’m not just retelling someone else’s work, but found no other comic about them that didn't have some kind of twist, to say the least. And yeah, I feel the same way about Loona. And Judy, too, actually. As for Rouge, I think it’s a mix of things. On the cover, she’s wearing her helmet, which makes her less immediately recognizable, and that naturally draws less attention. The art style, while great, is also quite unusual for this kind of content. Painted styles tend to ask for more time and contemplation, thus slowing the pacing, which isn’t usually what people look for in a porn comic. Most fans lean toward sharper, more dynamic styles that match the energy and "craziness" of the genre. Also, I’ve noticed (as I'm also making a SFW Sonic comic) that the Sonic fanbase is very hesitant when it comes to supporting fan content financially. Apparently because of the fragile relationship the community has with Sega. I've learnt that they had some drama involving projects, financially supporters, that were borderline scams. So that definitely plays a role too.

Malcom Daniels

I think I speak for the majority when I say that the sex is hotter with a compelling story. Kind of like foreplay.

ArmoredOpossum

Yeah definitely a few instances in the past of "Oh boy, a comic with Robin Hood and Maid Marian, my absolute fav- oh Robin's getting cucked again, nevermind" lol. Your services to this community are recognized and appreciated o7. Hindsight 20/20, considering the popularity of the first page of Jealousy and the lack of existing material, I think there might have actually been a niche for a Bee/Tex comic totally sans-Loona. I think painted style can work for furry porn in general, but yeah I'm not sure it was the right fit for Sonic. Bummer about the financial issues with the Sonic fanbase, but at least now you know that for future ideas.

Foxy Amaterasu

Pardon my intrusion and reply, but do keep in mind that with how things are in the US right now, a lot of people are struggling to afford living and therefore have to make hard decisions to cut back on pleasures over priorities and financing. I know I've had to make a hard decision recently on cutting off my TV channels from my bill package and only keep internet for my mom's teleworking purposes plus everyone that lives in our household use it for everything, for more affordability and in the last recent month or so I've had to make even harder decisions on cutting back on my subscriptions, this subscription to Lummh & Co of the very few that I've kept. I work 6 days a week and barely scrape by every month with just enough spending money to afford a couple pleasures such as this one. Other people may not be so lucky. Aside from all of that I want to thank ye for the amazing work ye and whoever else be involved, for the incredible effort, thought and careful planning that is put into the artwork, the storyline and details into each story making these overwhelmingly enjoyable. One of the main reasons I selected this subscription to remain over others. Keep up the amazing work! 😎👍💸

Lummh & Co

Aw thank you very much! I'm sorry for the trouble :/