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Power Lines bonus episode two: Extended Interview with Olesya Khromeychuk (Patreon)

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2022-10-13 07:07:38
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Dear KI community members,

For this week's bonus episode, we’re giving you an extended version of the interview with Olesya Khromeychuk, a historian of East-Central Europe and director of The Ukrainian Institute London.

Anastasiia and Olesya discuss Ukrainian history, including the concept of statelessness, the myths around cossacks, and the elements of nationalism present in Ukrainian culture.

Olesya is an academic who grew up in Lviv, a city in western Ukraine, and has taught the history of East-Central Europe at top universities, including the University of Cambridge and University College London.

If you want to listen to these bonus episodes on a podcast app instead, you can find a personalized link under the “Membership” tab here on Patreon. If you have any questions or need any assistance, you can always reach out on Patreon or via email, at brooke@kyivindependent.com.

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BusyBusyBee

Really enjoying this series. Thank you! I have been following Yale history professor Timothy Snyder’s class in Ukrainian history this semester. He goes quite extensively into the whole WHAT IS A STATE question. The classes are available on YouTube. Here is the syllabus and all the details are in there. https://snyder.substack.com/p/syllabus-of-my-ukraine-lecture-class PS. You can follow along pretty easily without all the additional reading listed in the syllabus. This is a class for Yale students after all. 😁

Rose Mason

Earlier this year I TRIED to read Putin’s “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians.” The essay begins innocently enough: “To have a better understanding of the present and look into the future, we need to turn to history.” Well yes, that would be a good idea, right? Except that he continues: “Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians are all descendants of Ancient Rus, which was the largest state in Europe. Slavic and other tribes across the vast territory – from Ladoga, Novgorod, and Pskov to Kiev and Chernigov – were bound together by one language (which we now refer to as Old Russian) [. . .]” No we don’t! No serious linguist or historian believes that that there was a language called “Old Russian!” And besides, after 1240, Suzdal was separated from the other Rus’ principalities (or what was left of them) until the end of the 15th century. It was this separation of what later became Russia from the other former Rus’ principalities that had a lasting impact on language and culture. And this is precisely why Putin’s claims of “historical unity” are so absurd. As the great Serhii Plokhii wrote about the negotiations at Pereiaslav on January 8, 1654, “There is no need to blame either the Muscovite elites or their Ukrainian counterparts for not considering each other brothers and members of the same Rus’ nation. The two sides needed interpreters to understand each other, and Khmelnysky’s letters to the tsar survived in the Russian archives largely in translations prepared by such official interpreters.” (“The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine", Revised ed., p. 104) I stopped reading Putin’s essay right at that point. I simply couldn’t continue. Слава Україні!

Alex Forsyth

Thank you, very illuminating to learn so much in such a short interview. All of the points discussed about Ukrainian identity, diversity, growth as a polity which considers itself a 'free nation' more and more as time goes on, only serve to reinforce the point that Russia has already lost. Shelling and bombing Russophone Ukrainians surely extinguished whatever feelings of connection existed among Ukrainians regarding Russia, and that can never be rebuilt.