"Our Blues Episode 13 " by Big Body & Bok from Patreon

I think you two disagreed on whether Eun Hee has integrity because integrity covers several traits (honesty, consistency, reliability, and accountability), and those traits can depend on context, like work vs. personal relationships. Someone can be highly reliable and consistent at work but not in their personal life, like workaholics. In her personal relationships, I do think Eun Hee falls short on honesty and accountability. I understand her fear of confrontation, I hate confrontations to the point that I’d rather ghost someone than air all my problems with them, but she needed to either have a real conversation with Mi Ran, set boundaries, or distance herself. Putting on the front of a loving, loyal friend while resenting Mi Ran that strongly is hypocritical, and just as two-faced as what she accuses Mi Ran of being. I think her self-esteem has always taken a hit because of her appearance (not being seen as pretty or attractive) and her financial situation, ironically both when she was poor and now that she’s rich. That led her to tie her self-worth to being needed by others while resenting them for it at the same time. I think her lack of accountability is that she seems, subconsciously, to want to stay in a victim mentality and avoid self-reflection. You can see it in her diaries, which focus mostly on either how much she sold or what others did to her rather than reflecting on her own choices and reasoning. This is also where her subconscious jealousy also plays a role. She sees Mi Ran as someone who is popular and therefore loved while Mi Ran sees that popularity as a mirage and is in fact extremely lonely. She got abandoned, and maybe disliked, by the ones who matter to her the most, her daughter and Eun Hee. None of this means Mi Ran has integrity either. I don’t think she’s especially reliable or consistent and her carelessness in the way she treats and speaks to others is not acceptable. But unlike Eun Hee, she’s honest: she keeps asking Eun Hee for an open conversation and is willing to listen to others, and she’s willing to admit her own faults, like when she was speaking to Eun Hee as she was applying makeup. Sorry for the long comment 😅 This isn’t even my favorite storyline, but it’s interesting because so few dramas or movies, Asian or Western, revolve around a complex female friendship that has nothing to do with men or romance. I love how each character is nuanced, complex and layered, rather than a stock characte, and I love how each actor breathed life into these characters.

I think you two disagreed on whether Eun Hee has integrity because integrity covers several traits (honesty, consistency, reliability, and accountability), and those traits can depend on context, like work vs. personal relationships. Someone can be highly reliable and consistent at work but not in their personal life, like workaholics. In her personal relationships, I do think Eun Hee falls short on honesty and accountability. I understand her fear of confrontation, I hate confrontations to the point that I’d rather ghost someone than air all my problems with them, but she needed to either have a real conversation with Mi Ran, set boundaries, or distance herself. Putting on the front of a loving, loyal friend while resenting Mi Ran that strongly is hypocritical, and just as two-faced as what she accuses Mi Ran of being. I think her self-esteem has always taken a hit because of her appearance (not being seen as pretty or attractive) and her financial situation, ironically both when she was poor and now that she’s rich. That led her to tie her self-worth to being needed by others while resenting them for it at the same time. I think her lack of accountability is that she seems, subconsciously, to want to stay in a victim mentality and avoid self-reflection. You can see it in her diaries, which focus mostly on either how much she sold or what others did to her rather than reflecting on her own choices and reasoning. This is also where her subconscious jealousy also plays a role. She sees Mi Ran as someone who is popular and therefore loved while Mi Ran sees that popularity as a mirage and is in fact extremely lonely. She got abandoned, and maybe disliked, by the ones who matter to her the most, her daughter and Eun Hee. None of this means Mi Ran has integrity either. I don’t think she’s especially reliable or consistent and her carelessness in the way she treats and speaks to others is not acceptable. But unlike Eun Hee, she’s honest: she keeps asking Eun Hee for an open conversation and is willing to listen to others, and she’s willing to admit to her own faults, like when she was speaking to Eun Hee as she was applying makeup. Sorry for the long comment 😅 This isn’t even my favorite storyline, but it’s interesting because so few dramas or movies, Asian or Western, revolve around a complex female friendship that has nothing to do with men or romance. I love how each character is nuanced, complex and layered, rather than a stock character, and I love how each actor breathed life into these characters.

Paper Tiger (edited)

Paper Tiger

The only kdramas, of the hundreds I've watched, that come to mind where there is a central storyline about a complex female relationship, with its ups and downs, the pretty and the ugly (not just consistently healthy wholesome friendships), where males and romance do not play any significant role in their relationship are: - 20, 25 - Age of Youth 1 & 2 - Search WWW

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