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HOW did this happen. How did the very last track (for us at least) of the album just suddenly make it to our top 3 SVT tracks?

This was staggering to say the least. And the performance only augmented everything that makes this song great. Seriously one of the best. We explain why, and talk about a lot of things in the video so I'll stop here, but just know that this REALLY WAS amazing.

And just to clarify, since the editing made it sound a bit weird there, but at 13:30, I'm saying "not just about themselves, BUT about themselves as SVT, an idol", cuz we often do see idol groups talking about their past struggles, or current problems in a vague way, and how the idol life can be hard in an indirect way, but what S Coups did felt extremely direct and specific, and I appreciated his forthright approach. And yes, you DO see this sometimes, but not in a song that sounds like this. So all in all, it's just how different things are present together, from the genre, the style, to the lyrics...it's an odd combination that makes it unique.

NOW.

GOING SEVENTEEN ALBUM.

We're starting with Beautiful, unless we need to tackle it in a different way, so let us know some good links and we'll see you thereeeeeeee :D

Enjoy <3

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konekochan

WOW!! I love how you loved Space and tbh, I didn't really know the lyrics until now. So it's that deep and personal 😯 The structure as you explained it is also so interesting. I don't know much about korean music outside of kpop, but one of the first groups i stanned was Mamamoo, and the rap parts here reminded me of moonbyul's raps whenever they did Immortal songs/covers of old songs. That's so cool! Also so funny how HanC had like half the album as his favorites 😂 My personal top songs from this are Pretty U, SIMPLE, Aju Nice and Love Letter! Yesss we're doing Going Seventeen next! Your high expectations make me pressured for some reason but this one wont disappoint!! I feel like this is one of their best albums in their earlier discography in terms of how each song is distinct, but the entirety is very cohesive. Im so excited! Also project 17 coming soon too!!!? Link for BEAUTIFUL (sometimes i forget its a unit song but they usually perform this with ot13!) - https://youtu.be/BPcWbV9cCxk (wait a minute, thats what 'don't listen in secret' means in korean?? Whoaa, now im curious what you'll think of the actual song)

Mar

This is also one of my all-time favorite song from them🖤

ponchi

omg ive been waiting for this day…. this is my all time favorite svt song. 😍 i always feel like im a protagonist in a music video while listening in the car lol

Mi

Really looking forward to 17 Project!

Quwarichi

It's always the tracks you don't expect to make you feel anything special that get you with Seventeen. A lot of B-sides of the albums are like this. In Going Seventeen there's a song called I Don't Know and almost every carat either knows another carat who says that's their favorite song or IS the one who thinks it's the best song in the world. AND WE'RE MOVING TO GOING SEVENTEEN. It's truly an album that starts the change in my mind from youthful hopeful boys to a bit more mature themes. Not completely. but the tone shift and the color of the songs is different. I think you'll get what I mean the more you listen. LINKS FOR BEAUTIFUL!: Original 6-member version lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuabb55nzo Follow To Seoul Performance fancam (I know you prefer not to react to fancams but there's something about that performance that's so happy and cheerful plus it has ot12 and the famous adlib for the song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR0UjKgTTM4 K-CON JAPAN 2017 ot13 performance: https://youtu.be/k28QoFkniL8?si=keUj03KEGZMXdweN Beautiful Stage-Mix (also the most viewed Beautiful performance video on youtube, includes ot13): https://youtu.be/QfGl0_aGAPo?si=fHJb0C8-VpX_E3-X

Mar

Can't wait for Going Seventeen album!

Brianna E

This was such an interesting watch, I loved hearing both your perspectives on this song! While I feel like I sometimes relate more to Han-C, where I don't typically pay the most attention to lyrics and the music/vibe of a song is what I tend to focus more on, for this track I am 100% with D'Some. I had never looked at the lyrics for this song but after reading your caption for this one I tried to pay more attention to them and S.Coups' verse hit me hard and gave me a much greater appreciation for the song. This album in general had more tracks that I enjoy than their previous albums, I feel like they started finding/settling into their sound (outside of their classic title tracks) more and really solidify it going forward. So excited for Going Seventeen, Don't Listen In Secret is one of my favourite Seventeen tracks of all time, definitely in the top 10 if not top 5!

Normal SJA

Ding Ding Ding!!! Congratulations on finishing the first trilogy of debut Seventeen Era!! I am so proud of you two!!! This era contained many songs that is written pre-debut and of course in between. For me at the time it was released, I am shocked on the quality for a self-produced songs. and the foundations of what will be of Woozi-Bumzu combi in the future. Seventeen music quality and evolutions splits into below Era. 17 Carats_Boys Be_Love& Letter (with repackage) > Debut Rookie Era. Going Seventeen_Al1_TeenAge (with special album Director’s Cut) > Breakout from Rookie Era to a bolder approach. I would say this Era is where Seventeen being more experimental with their music but still maintaining rookie Seventeen sounds. You Make My Day_You Made My Dawn_An Ode > Super Saiyan Era This Era is where Seventeen lean more on true to the genre sang and more mature approach to lyrics. and below is longer Era cuz well can say due to Covid. Henggarae_Semicolon_Your Choice_Attacca_Face The Sun (with Sector 17 repackage album)>> Healing Era with no longer holding back at the ending. iykyk. and current era. FML_Seventeenth Heaven_17 is Right Here_Spill The Feels_Happy Burstday >> embracing their true potential and soaring higher Era. Lol slow burn kinda music discovery is fun cuz we get to speak about each tracks. In Seventeen Album there will be never a filler songs, all have their own purpose in as chapters in the tracklist to build a cohesive storytelling. Anyway. Looking forward to the next one! Love, a Carat. 🌕💍

krizhe ming

Thank you for loving and appreciating this song a lot! Can't See the End/Space is very precious to me, and yes, very personal as well. I used to listen to it so much especially on those days that everything piled up, I can't do anything and just needed a good cry. The heartbreaking lyrics and emotions go straight to my soul and I relate to them (despite not being in entertainment industry). DK's melodious but hardhitting vocals. Also appreciate the glimpse of light amidst the darker tone and setting. This track may not be that 'known' anymore among the fandom (hasn't been performed since OTY tour in 2019, I think) so newer Carats who haven't gone yet on deep dive on their discography are not aware of it... so again thank you for recognizing this gem🫶🏻 p.s HanC, the title 'Don't Listen in Secret' may sound funny but just you wait...🤓

krizhe ming

Haha i wanna give at least one hint but will just 🤐 for now. Look forward to it!

Andria Panda

I get so emotional every time I watch this performance. DK is my favorite 3rd gen vocalist, and this is so stunning.

Alicia Rendon

Right, Going Seventeen my favorite album, I love all of them, but this one is so special...I've been waiting for you to get there. And my favorite song "I don't know". Love to hear what you think.

averitablefeast

I'm sure I'll comment again next week, but Beautiful is my personal favorite Seventeen song! I really recommend an OT13 performance, not just for Hoshi's iconic adlib but also the choreo (one of the only choreos I make an attempt to dance along with because it's so cute, fun, and relatively simple).

CavaeStella

Ah…Going Seventeen album next. Personally, Boom Boom is my least favorite out of this album. It’s the only song that I don’t put in any of my playlists. Not because it’s a bad song. But because the B sides are simply amazing, the title track just feels….ordinary, run-of-the-mill Seventeen. Fast Pace and I Don’t Know still hold me in a chokehold up to this day.

tim

This Space performance is really good, (perfect for me). Every single lines, their mood and expressions, the outfit, the stage, the background video. SVT bsides are soo good but maybe not well known among non Carats. I only discover SVT maybe 2022 so I’m still kinder-Carat and I like all of their songs..and my favourite always their Bsides..and I keep wondering why didn’t they get some of the grand awards at that time..their performance are always satisfying because it really are a performance, you got great choreography with insane synchronisation. Great vocals with crazy adlibs, Great expressions, great melody and meaningful lyrics and you can almost feel their sincerity and the chemistry between members. I think it’s hard to find this almost complete package in a large group. And after FML/ Super i think no one can denied their well deserved Awards.

Hansol's Gums

This song just hurts :(( I'm happy you pointed out and loved SCOUPS part though because what you said was exactly it: personal. That particular tour too (Ode To You) is the one featured in the Hit The Road series (which also hurts 🥺) and in SCOUPS episode, we get to see a bit of those dark parts you mentioned 🥹 As an international fan, it's my first time in a while listening to Space while reading the lyrics and now I realize how tough it must've been for SCOUPS to sing his lines during that tour. 🥺💖 Much love to you guys I love your comments and analysis as always

Jade V

This track hits you like a train when you've only listened to Seventeen's happy/hopeful songs before lol. Space marks the entry into Seventeen's "sad boy" era. Going Seventeen is a lot more somber/moodier than their previous albums (it starts out happy but gradually gets sadder throughout the tracks). I think I've said it in a previous comment but Going Seventeen is still one of my favorite albums of theirs, along with An Ode, Face The Sun and You Make My Day. It's so cohesive with a clear story woven throughout and perfect as a fall/winter album.

Sarah_SVT

I have beautiful from follow again tour! It’s so fun and cute

Jocelyn A

my favorite mini album is heng;garae but that's a completely personal choice! going seventeen is actually insane though, one of my top 10 seventeen songs (i don't know) is in it

Megan Cheong

Completely agree with you, those are some of my favourite albums too.

Megan Cheong

Excited for you guys to watch and see more of seventeen's 'emotional' 'sad boy' music. It really shows off Woozi's talents as a beautiful songwriter and lyricist (along with some of the other members).

BECK

HOW AM I JUST SEEING THIS!? THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SVT SONGS!! (found it pretty early on in my svt journey, became my second top song of the year on spotify ……)

Shades

Yes please check out this as it includes pre-debut era along with their musical journey.. 2nd ep explained 2016 era in detail.. So plz check it out 🙏🙏

carat sebongie

As a Carat who physically attended Ode to You, second time ever seeing them after Kcon, this is the track I was very much looking forward to see live. Sadly, S.Coups wasn't physically present for the leg of Ode to You I watched. His verse along with DK got me through so much, I am eternally grateful this entire song exists and I found it when I needed it. The next time I physically saw them, S.Coups was the only voice I was not prepared to hear. The audio from any usual streaming site of any track he is in does not fully embody the quality and raspiness of his rap and vocal tone live, it does not give it justice. I am impressed anytime they release a new track but seeing him live, no one can prepare for that. This song is a personal lifesaver.