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Please put in your thoughts quick b I am filming this soon. The focus will be WROL and zero services. Focus on sanitation techniques and dealing with b**y disposal, unfortunate realities during this time. Also coming: update on food storage.

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Garrett Colling

For the sanitation of crap side, lime, sawdust, burying, burning seem to be the best options for it. Wipes, hand sanitizer, five gallon jugs with a small pump to wash would be great.

Bravo

Urban versus rural considerations. Especially when water sources are nearby. What about when you can’t “get out” to deal with proper disposal? Thoughts on short to mid term storage? Maybe it’s not safe to go out. Maybe big snow keeps you inside or you are hunkered down pretending “no one is home” for safety reasons. Also I worry about impact of local climate. Out west where it can be hot and dry is surely different than in the deep south. I worry about pests attracted by waste like this which can spread disease. Tough topic.

The Gates Family

Wipes will be a thing of the past. You’re gonna be washing your crack with water most likely. Lots of recycling/repurposing, as well as lots of burn piles. We will make fertilizer to grow bait for food animals. UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE: as a young adult, I was homeless all over the country, and I learned a lot about improvised sanitary practices. I lived in New Orleans in the ruins of Hurricane Katrina, and MANY squats had some form of running water. We had a whole ass hot water heater. Lots of things that used to be private affairs will become communal.

Ryan Barber

Can’t depend on stored supplies like lime and chemicals. No restock timeline. For those of us with a septic system and ability to pump water, we are in decent shape. Outside of that, you will need to dig outhouses, or build small septic systems from 55gal drums and pvc. Not had to do, but easy to overwhelm. Bodies all depend on how many you have to deal with. Burning I think you need lots of fuel to make that happen. Going to have to get use to digging. And getting a hole deep enough for a body can be a lot harder than most people realize. I also think this is only a big concern for the first year or so. After that enough people have died, that you now have access to 10x the land you previously did.

Swamp Fox

Very interesting topic. Long term solutions will be a challenge.

LucNukem

You can make a compost pile that'll deal with all organic waste wether it be poop, bodies, etc. Get the Humanure Handbook as a pdf free here https://humanurehandbook.com/ Personally I would use humanure for dealing with feces, and during the warm parts of the year stuff like bodies, animal waste, etc would go to black soldier fly larva. Black soldier fly larva will consume just about anything, their poop because compost, and the larva themselves are excellent feed for farm animals.

Matt Mann USA

The most practical means of dealing with human waste would be to buy (in advance) a portable restroom to use as an outhouse. Cut away a suitable amount of the bottom of the storage tub and place the unit over a pit on your property. You can use a shovel to dig a latrine pit about 6 feet deep and 6 feet around in a few hours. Use 2"x~12"x8' pressure-treated lumber to span the pit and support the portable restroom over it. When the pit fills to within ~2' from ground level, fill the remaining space in with dirt and dig a new pit. The AI chatbot tells me that a 6'x6' pit should last ~15 years for a family of four. A plastic portable restroom is much easier to sanitize than a wood outhouse, and they're easy to move as a whole unit. As far as dealing with bodies, I think you'd just have to put in the work to dig a grave someplace that nobody would mind.

Matt Brown

“Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement.” -Deuteronomy 23:12-14

smead

One of the most useful camping accouterments we have found in 40 years of back country hunting/camping expeditions (not backpacking) is a folding toilet of the type normally used for the disabled. They can often be found in Goodwill type stores for cheap. One of these and a shovel equals "Instant Outhouse".

smead

Still available on Amazon is The Classic > "How to Shit in the Woods, 4th Edition: An Environmentally Sound Approach to a Lost Art" by Kathleen Meyer just in case reeducation is in order?

Bill

Would love to see trash, flies, and rodents covered for those of us in the suburbs. Most prepping content assumes acreage, but a lot of us live in established neighborhoods with neighbors close by.

Jake Haberman

There isn't going to be a good solution to any of it. The only thing I would want are tons of Tyvek suits, boot covers, cases of thick mil nitrile gloves, face shields, and for smell you can use two surgical masks (not an N95) but between the basks you lather up Vicks or some other menthol smelling paste. It's what we do on EMS calls if we have to for ripe dead bodies. A PAPR would also be great for protecting yourself from the diseases but they're battery powered. For sanitation honestly the best thing to do is learn how to make a vault toilet or a basic septic tank system.

Paul Kwiatkowski

Sanitation depends on a water source, yes? How do I not pollute the spring head and pond? I'm 70 and know how to dig but that's the last thing I want to do in my rocky piece of rural Maryland.

Paul Kwiatkowski

Each season presents a challenge of it's own.

Red dog 1

5 gallon bucket. With appropriate lid. I have thick mil bags that fit a 5 gallon bucket. Also if you throw saw dust on it. Keeps the smell and flies down. Packed away several fly traps also. That’s for short term.

The Gates Family

The challenges never cease, they just evolve. I’m a single dad to an autistic son now.

JR

Dispersed living is your friend.

TheOlsonOutfit

Given enough land , I'd say dig/build a proper outhouse.

LibertyOrDeath

If you are in the city, good luck. But in the country with a well , a septic system and a solar/wind battery setup. You can ride out the storm for years.

Echo Sierra

Dirty and contaminated water and surfaces etc will lead to sicknesses not seen in the modern age

Lynn E Fite, Col (r)

Water will be the primary concern. Sanitized ( boiled and treated) for cleaning your hands and butt. There will always be material for wiping in any but desert areas. Poop burns with little effort or small plastic bags for storage until the odor goes away. Addressing bodies is a waste or TEC (time, energy, calories) unless they are in you immediate area, then leave alone. Those in your immediate area of operation should be burned, to reduce spread of disease.

Defensor

1. Safe water and human waste separation. Once sewer and water systems fail, preventing fecal contamination of drinking water becomes priority one. 2. Waste and sanitation control. Establish a system for toilets, trash, food waste, diapers, hygiene products, handwashing, and pest control before conditions deteriorate. 3. Human remains management. Handle the dead with dignity, document identity and location, protect personal effects, use basic PPE, and avoid hasty anonymous disposal that prevents later identification. The bottom line: In a true grid-down event, sanitation is not housekeeping—it becomes force protection and disease prevention. Water, waste, and the dead—manage those three poorly, and a survival problem quickly becomes a public-health crisis.

Aquanaut

Hogs. Not just for annoying your non-Christian neighbors...

steve garrett

I own a bio hazard cleanup company LOL