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Crushing Competitors? Sig Cross [6.5 Creedmoor] (Patreon)

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2020-11-19 15:21:18
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2020-11-20 00:47:37
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If it doesn't play for you in Patreon click this:  https://youtu.be/vM0eq_FfDNs

A review that may gather some momentum online, here's our data on the blazing hot and fast selling SIG CROSS precision rifle.  We are impressed immediately on its SAWC and its whole configuration.  It's compact, lightweight, and high quality.

Cross stands for "crossover" meaning the rifle should be ready for hunting, tactical, target, and competitive applications.  We take it to the desert to see if this is true.  

Will the Sig Cross live up to the online hype or will the curse of the desert crush this popular newcomer from Sig?  Watch from start to finish for a Nutnfancy gun review you not soon forget! 

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Thanks to Matt B for the loaner...you rock man!

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Crushing Competitors? Sig Cross Precision Rifle

A review that may that gather some steam, here's our data on the blazing hot and fast selling SIG CROSS precision rifle. We are impressed immediately on its SAWC and its whole configuration. Cross stands for "crossover" meaning the rifle should be ready for hunting, tactical, target, and competitive applications. We take it to the desert to see if this is true. Will the Cross live up to the online hype or will the curse of the desert crush this popular newcomer from Sig? Watch from start to finish for a Nutnfancy gun review you not soon forget! Thanks to Matt B for the loaner...you rock man! AKC ACE Xtreme auto: http://shrsl.com/1y7ys Kusiak Leather's awesome holsters, highly rec'd: https://tinyurl.com/y36haop3 Kusiak Leather Signature (super thin, super awesome, used by Nutnfancy): https://tinyurl.com/y6phoxe2 Kusiak American IWB: https://tinyurl.com/y5klyg2n Kusiak Old Fashioned IWB, amazing leather quality, check out that brown: https://tinyurl.com/y4zkdka3

Comments

Todd Strelka

Nice folding precision rifle! But wow! The curse of the desert. Maybe I'll wait for the Ruger copy. However, I really need a M&P10 first. Prayers for Sean the TNPr. Hope he recovers well soon.

Jameel W. Akel

What SAPR do you recommend in 6.5 Creedmor?

Rick Grad

The desert strikes again! I’m sure the guy who let you borrow his rifle is thrilled you found the problem for him though.

ChillTheNerd

Wow unbelievable issue to see revealed by TNP! Cutting to "as it happened" was perfect. Excellent call on the video editing. I feel like Sig as a company is a way too willing to allow final quality testing to be done by customers to buy their first generation weapons. Thank God for your testing in the desert. Might have saved few lives! Edit after watching again: damn I want this rifle though. It'd make hiking tk a hunting spot so easy. I'm sure Sig will fix it and we'll get a great new rifle on the market. But seriously, the 320, 365, and this have had trigger issues. Would really like to see more complete T/E before products that are designed to be deadly hit the market.

Adam Boyd

Another awesome GRV! Thanks Nutn!

Andrettski

WOW where's the Sig R and D / QC department B4 they start shipping their rifles to the general public.

Marcus Corvino

Wait, Sig has a broken trigger? No way! ....320 garbage

Andrettski

The Covid Sean? NOOOOOOO. I told you to stay away from downtown Portland's mostly peaceful fireworks display/riots which you know are super spreaders. Joking aside Sean I hope you kick this virus crap quickly and recover fully my brother.

Benson Huntley

Well ... with a completely new platform that has never been tried before there were bound to be problems that were not evident in initial testing. That being said a trigger that just goes off by touching the bolt is a code red issue. Share the heck out of this so that nobody dies from it. Imagine a dude pulls the trigger on a deer and nothing happens but the deer runs off. Then he lays the rifle across his lap and it goes off. No telling where that round went. Sorry but hard pass for me.

Jamie Ayers

Great video!!!! Lots of potential.

Red dog 1

Love caring the 365XL.. it’s awesome. Good choice Nutn. I also love the 6.5 creed.

JD

Second video in a row won’t play :(

David Goodridge

Thank you. Glad you found this problem, not by someone having a terrible accident. Prayers for Sean

Hugh Amlett

Nutn, I believe Sig actually copied The Fix by Q with this gun, so not entirely original, but more affordable

Scott Reichard

Tired of computer and car and gun companies letting comsumers be the final testing group. Dont buy new designs. Ever.. give the guns a chance to fail on someone else.. I bought a new beretta A400 extreme with kick off. A 2200 dollar shotgun for clays and trap and learning to see if I liked the sports. Ten shots in my barrel inside near the choke exploded.. took beretta a year to replace my 5 day old brand new gun. They had a huge number of bad barrels. That was terrible customer service. At the time I owned only that one brand new shotgun. Bad gun companies are bad news. No more beretta dt 10 or 11 for me.. not after that treatment. Sticking with 725 browning and a backup for me. Sig guns are very expensive .. hope they get the problem resolved fast. But sig is another company that customers seem to come last... sad

The Nutnfancy Project

Sig is already in touch with me on this gun, they're freaking out about it. They said they haven't had this problem in any other Cross; I believe them. So I will Matt, it's owner ship it back and get it fixed. I still think the Cross is awesome and will be a huge winner. BUT I have to share the data and why the review was cut short. I appreciate the story on Beretta, once again proving it's all gun companies that have done. We should be in their corner though b. w/o them we are defenseless!

Ned Butcher

Can't watch the vid, says can't load link.

Mike Maddox

Nothing beats real world testing it will bring out the gremlins in any product.

Mike R

Same as the Ruger AR556 this video won’t play on my iPhone app.

Scott Reichard

Any company can have a machining failure. Or one bad part.. safety ends with the man that loads the round.. but the gun hopefully will be a great design and build. I have a sig 716 and 556 and a pair of 516's and four p220's and another pile of various sig p pistols. So I am not anti sig.. I just saw a bunch of mpx reviews with problems associated with can use.. i am glad sig is serious about this. Nuttn we still need to support gun companies.. and I do. Some companies are far more responsive than others.

Scott Reichard

Seperate subject a bit.. my best gun company customer service experience was with an ed brown 1911. The barrel link pin came out.. and it still is captured and functioned. But i happened to let them know maybe when i was ordering a new spring. And the head of the shop called and asked me to send the barrel. They would pin and stake it for me.. so i did. He commented that my pistol has many rounds and that they often stake parts further for competition used pistols. Most folks never run that number of rounds. Very very great service and concern . The shop manager wanted my gun perfect.. because it left his shop. Thought people might want to know.. scott

Tacticaldoodle

"But......but.....that cuts into our marketing budget!" -Modern companies, apparently. I'm always pumped about new stuff coming to market, but it's pretty wise these days to skip the Gen 1 if you want it to be more than just a fun gun.

Joshua Wilson

Same issue as a few others. I’ve been unable to watch this video, along with the Ruger AR video. I’ll try on my laptop later and see if that works.

Matt

Post this stuff on Rumble dude. It seems stable, well built, and MONETIZED!

Ol Retired Fed

I remember your problems with the Ruger SR9. I had issues with mine when the slide lock spring kept falling off. Sent it to Ruger and had it back fixed in 4 days for free as it was still under warranty. Their letter stated they ran 50 rounds through it after the repair. I have never had another problem with it. Wished they still made it. The best companies will fix their failures.

Tacticaldoodle

It's not playing in patreon for me either, gotta follow the link and watch through YT either in their app or another overlay. Have been diggin' Newpipe for droid at least. Works okay.

Outrider950

It refuses to play. ☹️

The Nutnfancy Project

Sorry about that Ned and Mike. I just checked it on my iPhone and is playing A OK. I didn't do anything different in this video. I doubt YT is jacking with it; they'd send a notification. Can you try a diff browser or app? It's definitely working in the computer environment too.

The Nutnfancy Project

"Nuttn we still need to support gun companies" Amen and I do make that pretty clear in this GRV. The gun companies are under assault from all sides; we can note a testing deficiency which is appropriate here and then move on...just like the P365.

The Nutnfancy Project

I am looking at that platform...maybe I'll post this video there and see how it does.

Connor Burns

You're right about the video. People want to see the new stuff and like the more premium companies

Maciej Bakun

First thing - I used to not care about weight on my guns but have come way around to your way of thinking and reconfigured my go to AR to lose some weight. But on this thing - it’s not going to be a competition gun in PRS. I shoot PRS and weight is your friend. Balance with heavy 26” M40 profile barrels is your friend. A lightweight 18” bolt gun will not be easy to shoot and anybody trying to shoot it in PRS will quickly realize that.

Jerome J

wow, that's no good.

Outrider950

Will you please do a follow up. I am really interested to hear what Sig finds.

Carl Agbayani

I agree with what you said in the video Nutnfancy. Sig should be testing these new guns more and they probably need a more comprehensive QA. The Cross is still on the list for purchase, Cross or that S&W Performance Center 6.5.

David and Elizabeth

You said it all, Nutn. And good job, Sig. 👏 Keep innovating while owning up to any issues and you will gladly be forgiven. 👨‍👩‍👧❤

Joshua S

Heard of stuff like this but never saw it happen until now. Only on the Nutnfancy Project. Thanks for the great review!

Cyborg009

My guess is it is NOT a design flaw and instead a QC issue. Twenty years ago a famous gunsmith who specialized in SIGs told me to buy last century’s SIG-Sauer pistols because the QC and quality was much better. Compared to my SIG P210-5 and P210-6 the differential is even more obvious. What I would like to know is how many rounds had the original owner shot?

Phake A'Count

You don't see that everyday. ...Or maybe you guys do.

Paul Griech

Are you serious holy crap I’m not sold on sig there pumping out too many different styles of guns! I work in manufacturing and that tells me there quality department has a weak link.

Lon N

Gen2 rename.... "The SIG Curse" gotta laugh, You just know the gun companies wince when they see a Nutn review post. Thanks for what you do, honesty is a huge value.

Tex

Had a faculty trigger in a brand new ruger 10/22 take down. Luckily found the issue during the first range visit. Kept my cool and the muzzle down range. Took a couple of months to send it off to ruger and get it back. They replaced the trigger group, and no more issues. This shows the importance of fundamentals of gun safety and no freaking out.

Matt

Well I'm not paying $1500 bucks for a rifle that has an unstable buttstock AND a faulty trigger, thats for sure.

J Ram

And that's why I'm a Ruger fan boy....their customer service has been above and beyond anytime I've dealt with them even when it was something that I did to cause the breakage.

J Ram

Curse of the desert strikes again......the crucible for any and all defects.....

Bluegill097

Ok genuine question, I completely understand not writing off a new gun after initial design flaws, I bought a CMMG Mutant even after TNP had huge issues with it and it runs great for me and I love it. However, this is not Sig’s only F-up. They have had a few other documented safety issues with their guns when they first hit the street, it only takes one “wooopsie” moment to ruin someone’s life with a gun and especially now given the political climate via prosecutions. At what point do we have to look at Sig and say “what the Hell is going on?” Why does this continue to happen with your guns, you guys as a major manufacturer need to do way better, especially with the safety issues, and get it right the first time. I will admit I am a Sig skeptic, I know they will fix the issue with this gun, but to me it is another example in a troubling trend from a company that is supposed to be an industry leader. Great review, love to see TNP working hard for us, but I’m probably not gonna be a Sig buyer any time soon. As you love to say nutn’ “just my mileage”! Great job guys

Justin Carwile

Reminds me of getting my new P210 and right out of the box the extractor was failing. 3-5 failures to extract per mag. Sig is leading the industry in innovation, but their ability to refine designs and follow through in production is lacking.

Cali Carrier

Great review! Glad you caught the discrepancy on camera. I think a lot of people would like you to review that holster.

Racing Psychosis

That barrel washer looks literally like the spacers we use on our racing kart's front spindles for adjusting the front track width. .....Whoaa.... Holy crap..... And again that's why I'm not a fan of Sig, reinforced again. That will always be in the back of my mind, even if it was fixed. Droptesting, 365 problems, this, etc. I think it is pretty cool, but that trigger issue....WTF...hey great concept I almost fell in love again with something they made....

The Nutnfancy Project

I don't know if it's just this gun or a problem with their QC but this gun is dangerous!

The Nutnfancy Project

Thanks Lon, I'm just looking to serve you guys with fun and useful info. The Sig Curse is real at this point in TNP; they already contacted me through a contact and they're freaking out over this review.

The Nutnfancy Project

Copy all Bluegill. I think Sig is arrogant really. They don't test these guns enough it seems. I do like this Cross and it will be a success. I offers SAWC and accuracy in a folding stock platform I haven't seen. So I do like it and see it performing well in the market. But Sig will properly suffer more bad PR from this and they deserve it.

The Nutnfancy Project

And everyone complains about KelTec...so funny the focus on this stuff is on Sig. Sorry to hear bout the P210 probs.

The Nutnfancy Project

Greasy wheel gets the grease, in will be next time. I am just going down the list in order from the longest term donors...all are appreciated but I can only cover a couple each video! Thanks for being here.

The Nutnfancy Project

I've never seen anything like this before...crazy stuff. I hope it was just this gun; I haven't heard of any other probs with the Cross. Sig would have the bad luck of this one getting into my hands.

Cali Carrier

Love the username. Haven’t caught any bluegill worth frying just been frying up bass. Bluegill and crappie are tasty though.

Lon N

A lot like catching the old tallywhacker in your zipper in the bathroom at a NFL game, embarrassing, public, and some laughing mfer's took pictures to post on Facebook,...

Adam Dunkerley

Outside of the trigger issue, to me, this rifle's design just further highlights the AR15 platform's dominance in the firearms world. No one seems to be able to beat it with new semi-auto designs, so like IWI's Zion and countless others, they just concede. Now even bolt guns are stonerized.

Bluegill097

Hey thanks I was pretty proud when I came up with it!

DL

Thanks, really appreciate the info! I've really been looking forward to trying out my cross, too, guess I'm going to have to be very careful with it. Side note, I saw a limited recall on a couple other Sig rifles.

traveltrove

Hey Nutn, think you'll ever review a SAPR in 6.5 grendel? I love mine and it's a super budget build lol

Mark MacBayne

Hey Nutn, I've followed you for about 8 years, Patreon suporter for a year now and I am just starting to interact with the community. First, I wanted to thank you because your channel has totally changed how I view gear, for the better, and as a bonus I've learned some great acronyms. I have a question about scopes. Do you have any experience buying from individuals on ebay, new or used? I've seen some listings that look like a great deal, but not if the scope is beat up and damaged. Your thoughts appreciated and keep up the great work.

Marion Martin

Love the gun. How I love the table top GRV's! That is how I started with TNP.

Devin Heald

One day I'll see my name up in lights, on the big screen, one of the TNP patreon elites LOL

Kinoons

Yeah trigger problems, especially when you cannot predict when the hammer will fall, are totally unacceptable. But I also believe that they will be addressed and the rifle will be successful because of everything else it gets right.

Sheepdog

I'm not ready to concede that Biden will be in. Trumps lawyers have the goods on the steal. We should do everything we can to insure our freedom is not stolen by these Democrat criminals. It's bad enough when we actually lose at the ballot box and they install their activist judges and they violate our constitution. Now they want to steal the elections too. NO!

Robert Hornyak

I want the manufacturers to prevail too. Especially Sig as I'm a fanboy of most of their products. However, not only is that trigger issue a serious safety concern, in the hands of anyone who falters in their gun safety that could be a deadly situation. I hope Sig can fix this as the platform looks very promising

Sheepdog

Nut'n. please bring on Concealed Carry Part 2. I don't think I'm alone in saying that is the video we all are waiting for.

Drew Pitchford

Love the review! They surely did test the design but just not enough or maybe that one had a manufacturing defect and QC failed. I wouldn't hold it against sig either, new automobiles for example have teething issues all the time.

Tacticaldoodle

It's gonna be a bit more bummery. At least I was low-energy.

Tacticaldoodle

Ebay's got pretty robust pro-customer service, so usually I feel comfy buying. That ACOG you see in the reviews from time to time was a beat-to-shit Ebay buy, that one was great. If you get a good listing and they take shots of the glass front and back, I'd say you're gonna do alright. The lower the quality of the writeup/data entry, or photography, the greater the chance the guy sends it to you by throwing it loose in a cereal box and tossing ten stamps on the front.

Tacticaldoodle

I'm sure there's some gossip behind the scenes. Maybe it was his idea, they shot it down, and only brought it to market when they saw how successful it was. Maybe someone else in the company made it, he left, and beat them to release, making it look like they copied him. We can't really pass along the gossip we hear, which is too bad since a lot of weird stuff like that happens in the musical chairs...er...the firearms industry.

The Nutnfancy Project

Yes I will, they immediately requested to get the gun back to them to see what's up.

The Nutnfancy Project

I think the Cross will be a huge success. BUT I have to show the data as the desert reveals it. I suspect they will do a Gen 2 trigger soley because of this TNP finding. That's what they did for the MCX. Of course they'll give no credit to us for this, saying "it has been revealed." Class Sig.

Rick Grad

Welcome, great chance you are going to love it here.

Sheepdog

Thanks TD. That's understandable, but we are still hungry for it and looking forward to it posting.

Roger Dixon

SIG just announced a recall for all of these rifles. They reference a YouTube video (has to be yours) and the trigger failure you show. They examined the rifle and recreated the defect as you showed. Thanks Nutn for serving the community. They will fix the problem but honest reviews are what we need.

Adam Dietrich

The Fix rifle by Q was produced first Kevin even talks about he knows which serial number they have that they used to copy it. To have trigger issues is just karma! Have a little more class Sig..

Joe Foss

@ Bluegill097, LOL, OMG-oodness, U have me thinking of changing mine from Lazerrred to Redbrest1.5. I’m in South Carolina, and blessed with some of the finest watershed rivers / swamps loaded with the Redbreast Sunfish Bream, and many if not most all of the sunfish species. Every 1lb+ Redbrest is locally called a “big ole titty bream.” :). They are big & fat enough to fillet and are delicious. Sorry about WAY off topic & to wordy, but I couldn’t resist about one of my passions from my 1&1/2 man, handmade Carolina wooden boats with a Zebco One on a 6ft LW tipped rod and a1/2 dozen silver blade # 2 & 3, tail trimmed, Mepps spinner & trailed with a few colorful rubber strips cut from balloons hooked on the treble hooks. 👍 oh, and LM Bass up to and over 10lb’s are icing on the cake.