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Hello club house!

Thanks for your continued support here in TNPP. I am in pre-production of what will be my "Vehicle Get-Home Kit. " My approach will be different on this kit build b. I'm going to get your input before I film. I can't promise I'll use everything you guys bring up but I always see a lot of good ideas under my videos. This way I can incorporate some of them into the video. I think we all think alike so our approach will be similar I think.

POU on this kit: To get home. Not to fight a war, just to get to your desired location. It's an escape kit.

Foundation: Don't use unless you have to...if the situation is short term, wait it out. Try to always avoid conflict, negotiate, flee, and serve good people in the situation when possible. Kit will be for one person. No SAWC for more.

Situations where needed:  Long term and probably sudden infrastructure collapse while you're traveling or away from your home base. Electricity, roads, EMS, and overall ability to drive to your preferred location becomes impossible.

Comms: Short range maybe but probably no long range (ie HAM). Most do not have a HAM setup on their vehicle...I know I won't run one that way. Also call calling someone in your clan to come and get you probably won't work anyhow: infrastructure is collapsed.

Weapons: AR15 or AK preferred as from the reviews (much philosophy delivered on this already!). Pistol backup? Yes. Rounds loadout for carbine: 120 min; For pistol: 100

LBE: Yes. Armor: Maybe

Extra clothing: Yes. Adapt to wx.

Water: Yes

FAK: Yes

Lighting: Yes

Pack: Yes

Tools: Yes. KISS principle

In shape: Yes

Time frame for support items: 3-4 days. You won't have SAWC capability beyond that and even that's pushing it.

All this is initial and highly subject to change but these are just some of my quick thoughts. There will be some similarity to my other kit builds because the needs are similar: USK, BOK, DSK. This will be the "VGHK." Really I could just pack up for backpacking, add in LBE and weapon system and the kit would be complete for me. 

Now we want this kit to be realistic not foolish. Foolish means it's too big and heavy to carry around all the time; keep it real! Also please keep comments concise so I can get process them efficiently.

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Conrad

Does this mean you're carrying all the gear from your incapacitated vehicle to your home? Or driving from a place where a WROL situation happens to your home? I know you said driving is impossible, but I live in the country where driving would almost always be possible, even if it's through farmland.

Todd Strelka

I'm thankful for a truck with 4WD with capabilites to go over more obstacles than a car. I'm going to be installing a Jerry can mount in my bed for extra fuel and I always have my ViAir tire inflator and tire plug kit in my truck at all times. I have a FAK as well and have considered a truck gun given the latest threats in our country.

Jacob Hurst

I always have a small shovel in my vehicle. Snow or whatever you can dig yourself out of a lot of situations! I would love input on water purifiers!

Rick Grad

I would personally give up the pistol and pistol ammo, in exchange for weight savings and maybe another 2-3 full AR mags. I trust my rifle not to go down, or it wouldn’t be with me. Things happen, but probably not with a duty grade rifle and a few hundred rounds it needs to feed. I’m assuming when I get to my location I’ll be able to regroup, and re supply.

Sgt Sly

First things first. You want a reliable vehicle or at least one that you know how to work on. I have a newer 4Runner for the wife and a 1990 Toyota Pickup for me. Tools; Jump box (you need to be able to jump the car without someone else there). These usually come with a tire inflator and serve as emergency back up power too. Small recovery kit. Nothing big, just an e-tool, some straps, and traction pad. Small tool kit. This is so much easier these days than it used to be. Only experience can teach you what you need. I can keep the ‘90 pickup running with a purpose built tool kit that fits under the seat. I think you pretty much covered everything else. Edit: I think I missed the part where you said driving is impossible. If that’s the case then your previously described BOK should be sufficient.

Matthew Sinn

First thought is whether this kit should be designed based on the specific vehicle or to be universal - ie. a kit designed for use in a suburban or Jeep may not work in a compact car. Will the kit be designed to be moved from vehicle to vehicle or instead leverage the vehicle’s storage capabilities like under-seat compartments in a Jeep or van? My personal inclination would be vehicle-dedicated given the "never use it until you have to" stipulation, which will both narrow the scope of which particular tools to include for basic keep-it-on-the-road maintenance and also allow for more modular bag planning to fit in the limited space available. I personally have locking under-seat storage in my Jeep JT which is currently where I keep a small tool kit, tire kit, level 1+ FAK, jumper cables, ratcheting straps. My center console has a multitool, EDC+ folding knife, Olight Warrior, charging cables and such. No firearm provisions as of yet - I'm leery of leaving a firearm of any kind in a vehicle when I'm not in it, so maybe that part of the kit is the most mobile in a separate bag.

Steven Salina

If you're in LA it's already too late...lol

Steelhorses

Paper map of the area you're going to. Compass. Lightweight Food. Water bottle. Water filter. Small very concealable lightweight backup pistol. Small lightweight binocs.

Adam

I been wanting a kit sort of like this for a while. A system for if something goes' down while im at work and give me maybe 3 days, I work security, have a take home car. 2013 ford police interceptor sedan AWD sits on the SUV chasey bulletproof panels in the doors, and windshield odd enough not the side windows or back glass or rear doors. Also a slight disadvantage it used more gas with added weight, plus straps attached to the driver and passenger side doors to support the extra weight of the ballistic panels. So the driver and passenger door opens a lot less. Making it more difficult to exit and enter. Also the way the car is designed if the backup cam fails its hard to reverse.

Scott Dunn

Should be a good video. Thanks Nutn! Realistically, I will not have an AR in my car on a day to day basis. I think including food is important. And footwear is critical. I always keep boots and socks in my truck.

Aaron Jones

MRE, sleep/warmth system such as a sleeping bag & extra fuel come to mind in addition. I’ve been nearly stranded hundreds of miles from home in a winter storm and got to thinking about the worst. I now have a set & forget survival get home kit in the truck. Been wanting to install an auxiliary fuel tank ever since as well. Looking forward to this video.

Adam

I am interested in this as well. I live in a rural area but drive to the local nearest big city for work/recreation regularly. My concern is with our current political climate i want to be prepared incase I get caught in a riot/protest(have already been stuck in one) or all the way up to a nuclear detonation of a dirty bomb or larger(unsure of the odds of that even happening, but in these times you can never tell). I am mainly focused on how to get myself back home the 30ish miles on foot in case my vehicle is disabled or the roads are blocked. As always keep up the good work!

Jesse A Johns

I have a truck, unfortunately not 4x4. But I think a truck should have a winch and something to put under the tires to help in getting un stuck. Basic tools should be on board. medical kit, coms are a good idea, water filter and storage, space blanket, jacket and good shoes, fire starting kit, knife, lightweight weapons, possibly something like the kel-tec p50 and PSA Rock 5.7, or an AR Pistol. Backpack or rolling duffle to carry as much gear as you can if the vehicle gets incapacitated.

steve garrett

I spent a lot of time in some of the most remote places in nevada exploring ghost towns and hunting coyotes. I have had to self recover myself 5 times in the last 6 years and a couple other times in the years before that. So my experience is how to get back after getting stuck. A hi lift jack has gotten me out 4 times. used as a winch or being able to lift a wheel off the ground. some of my tools. noco jump box, 3 sections of 20 foot chain. hi lift handle all kit,(sledge, shovel, and lift mate)on board ARB air compressor. tire plugs, winch extension lines, both winch anchors for beating in the ground and a pull pal ground anchor. yanker strap. most remains in my truck at all times. but I add a 12000 pound winch on dedicated adventures. so far we haven't had to walk out of the desert yet. here is a video of us rigging the hi lift to save us from a 25 mile walk to get help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtectzLzx2M&ab_channel=DaveAffleck

DirtyPhil

I have recently bought some of those ponchos/woobies that double as sleeping bags for cars as part of kits already have- also need some N95s at least to help with any dust etc.- would you have a spare set of shoes or boots? Also what about a small solar battery to recharge things as necessary - I keep one on dash of truck all the time- it’s a hazard if I get in an accident I know but…should we have at least a lighter or a paired down fire

Doug Richter

My 3 absolutes whether I'm backpacking, hiking, or driving somewhere are something to keep me dry (poncho or rain gear), something to keep me warm (down jackets and pants that pack into a small hand sized bag), and water (or the ability to filter water if backcountry where I know there's water). 2 times in my life I've been delayed in the mountains under rainy and snowy conditions. The ability to stay warm saved my life until I was able to get myself out. If you're cold or wet, that'll kill you faster than anything else.

DirtyPhil

i know the kit itself that you would carry would need to be set for SAWC but the car or truck kit can be a bit larger and have more stuff then you take what need and place into a pack on your back- I have a large lockable container in truckbed with a ton of stuff - boots sleeping back water flares and lights and tools etc. in my case the truck doesn’t mind the weight and I have the space- it’s just when you become the vehicle that it becomes more a prbke

Justin Golden

I don't have a whole lot to add since my GHB was built based on your systems. I recently swapped to insect repellent wipes over sprays, since they tended to leak. Come in a travel pack of 15 wipes. In addition to lifeboat rations, using Spam singles packs and tuna packs. Each about 2.5 oz, Spam has 230 calories and 9g protein, tuna 110 calories and 18g protein. I have few tools in my kit, but did include a 4-way sillcock key for accessing commercial faucets. It's a bit hefty, so if I'm in a rural aread, I'd probably leave it behind.

bcbrin

I really like the concept because it's so practical. I run an existing vehicle kit that's mostly focused on supporting a vehicle breakdown, particularly in cold weather (tools, tarps, tire repair kit, air pump, clothes, emergency food, fire, lighting, etc.) but just haven't dedicated self-defense tools since those are carried daily on-body.

Firearms Fuel&Fabrication

I would give my input. But my situation is exceptionally different being a truck driver. I travel into not so friendly states. And could be as far as 400 miles from home. Basically I'm screwed (not actually) but I'm going to be taking an approach to this myself for others who may share similar limitations for a get home system. Plus most truck drivers are not in the best shape.. well round is a shape. But not the correct shape fo a 400mile hike.

Matthew Sinn

My stepdad drives truck too, but not long haul anymore. Definitely a POU niche I wouldn't have initially considered. Presumably the kit would be different in a sleeper cab vs a regular cab.

DirtyPhil

Ohh when you do this video can you share best ways to transport ar in car or truck- would love to hear how people are storing/transporting - thanks- if you can squeeze in a knife review on the SOG BAR15t that would be cool :)

MarcTX

extra eyeglasses since most of us are on the "backside of 40"

Matthew Sinn

I think 5.7x28 is exactly where I'd want to be for a kit like this. Vehicle door penetrating capability would be valuable, as well as like you mention compact and lightweight firearms, and compact ammo. I like the P50 idea for sure. Assuming I'll have my EDC carry on me anyway, being able to go very compact but close to rifle ballistics without the need for a backup pistol or figuring out how to store an AR-sized rifle makes a ton of sense.

BadgerTails

24-36 winter hours; Yes, your kit is pretty much mine; I also have R&Rd a Specialized Mt bike that fits in the truck, front wheel off and have packed in tubes and hand pump. If it only gets me half-way home before I ditch it, so be it. LW: SUB2K GL15 with happy sticks, G41 & 30 with Taran happy sticks, SAAPI plates, soft L3 as well. Currently set up for a massive WROL event, I'll have to triage the supplies taking/leaving if EMP-effect takes out the truck. WI gun/deer season is apon us (Over Thksgiving week), which HERE means that the cartels literally target our trucks for break ins to get long guns. THRIVE on TnPers!

Bradford Peck

Off road or folding Bicycle. If we are assuming vehicle goes down or can’t use it. Also makes for a way to haul gear but would have to pack pretty light overall. probably want to get home faster than hoofing it if practical

Firearms Fuel&Fabrication

Day cab vs sleeper cab would be much different. Most day cabs don't go the distance I do. Plus given the extra time to grab things I carry extra water,food and clothing in my sleeper cab. Will definitely keep that in mind

MarcTX

I have to leave the carbine at home. I just can't afford the wight, so its EDC pistol only for me with about 40 rounds. I would use the weight for water and the extra lard I pack around with me.

Racing Psychosis

Is the vehicle still working, to where its useable to get you partly to where you need to go? My truck: boots and merino wool socks are in it. Appears to be missing in your above piece. I have a large tool kit in it with an extra smaller canvas carry roll pack for various items, obviously I'll be ditching that if I have to walk, may put the side cutters and pliers into the pack before ditching it. Extra rags and towels in the truck, extra rain gear in the truck, bigger fixed blade knives in the truck as I normally carry EDC folders, Resqme tool glass-breaker seat belt cutter in the truck, Tow straps, hand axe in the truck, folding shovel, small ammo can with spare common calibers in the truck, jumper cables, longer trips - there will certainly be a 5-gallon fuel can and funnel in the box of the truck, have in the truck a Self-Priming Copper Jiggler Pump (which does not work great, but it also does not require any real electric/battery power to work), various rolls of tape are already in my truck. Normal pistol I carry edc is a subcompact with IWB holster, but when traveling any distance lock box has a full size with mags and OWB holster. There is more and then there is the changing of the seasons where I am where somethings if you leave water in your truck during the day or overnight in the winter it turns into a popsicle stick.

Mike

I just bought a 9mm S&W folding carbine as my vehicle gun. My vehicle doesn't have a good way to keep an AR out of sight but the FCP can go somewhere inconspicuous. Eventual plan is to get a compact M&P pistol that will share mags, and some body armor. Can always ditch it if need for speed trumps trumps need for armor. Definitely need to add more calories and water, but I have enough to get home from my normal (50 weeks a year) locations. I always keep a decent pair of boots with 2 pair of wool socks and decently warm layers in the trunk. Good gloves are also a must.

Joshua Pulliam

Here’s my current get home bag set up: IFAK Boo-boo kit Water and water filter Some protein bars (need some more food probably) Olight M2R Warrior Spyderco Para 2 Cold Steel SRK Leatherman Wave+ Benchmade Rescue Hook 2 17 round Glock mags (going to up this) EPI pens and inhaler Gloves Ear pro Multiple ways to make fire Signal mirror and whistle This is in addition to my regular EDC. Today I’m carrying Glock 26 with Streamlight and 15 round mag, extra 19 round mag, Leatherman Arc, Benchmade Mini Adamas, Olight Baton Pro3, and Casio Pro-Trek. My work truck is also loaded up with hand tools, power tools, shovels, picks, air compressor, etc. I want to add armor and some sort of low profile LBE and probably a PCC like the Sub2000. SAWC is a big factor for me. And I don’t have the budget to get another AK. I could use my current LBE and AK. But again, I don’t have much room for it. And I would have to move it back and forth daily. Which I wouldn’t do consistently.

rcischke

--My hypothesis: If there is still RoL or it's the very early stages of WROL, in the event of a catastrophe it will take about 24 hrs for the situation to devolve into something that is actively threatening to me on a journey home. --My reasoning: For the first 24 hours of a widespread emergency people will be panicking and largely directionless as they focus on their own immediate problems, like figuring out what's going on, finding their family members, or packing up their belongings. Even the coordinated bad guys will have to get all their people together and figure out how to take advantage of the situation. As a result they won't immediately be focusing on being a danger to others, or me. --Synthesis: If the total journey is 3 days or less, and if I focus on "mobility", I can use the first 24 hours to get off the X and out of the city to the outskirts/suburbs or the country, where the threats are reduced by up to 90%. Which is coincidentally where I live. Speed becomes my protection. --How this relates to your hypothetical situation: If it's not a WROL situation, or if it's the very beginning of something that could lead to WROL, speed is more important to me than armor because it allows me to quickly be far away from where the danger is or will be. Your stated POU is that it's a "escape kit" and you don't want to "fight a war", which I take to mean you are focused on NOT getting into conflicts, and will be avoiding them at all costs. So, I'd leave the rifle and armor in favor of reduced weight and increased "mobility". I'd keep my EDC loadout which has a pistol with 1 mag that I can conceal. I'd want additional observational equipment (binos & etc) to help stay away from trouble as I move toward home, and maps of my AO to help me find the best path to get there. Once I chose a path I'd push to get to home as fast as possible. For myself and from my research, train tracks make a great avenue of egress from a city that is seldom used, and in the situation you set up it's unlikely the trains will be running. So, that's the rout I'd likely take. I've tested getting home from the major city where I work by using the tracks , and I can get 80% of the way (75 miles total) without any difficulty (last 20% is on roads and through fields by following power line easements). They also allow me to miss all the traffic and hordes of people by taking a rout that's more direct, usually off the beaten path, and away from other infrastructure. While there may be some other people with the same idea, it'll be far fewer than are taking roads. Once you get into the suburbs and especially once you get out of the city, the tracks are off on their own and you usually can't see them from regularly traveled infrastructure, which will reduce threats and the opportunity/risk of running into more travelers. On the occasions that I'd have to connect with regular infrastructure I could use my observation to give me the best opportunity to pass unnoticed. Pair that with a bicycle or e-bike and it gets even faster, but even on foot it's pretty darn fast compared to trying to slog through groups of people and mess with traffic via traditional routes. --Gear: *binos *thermal monocular if available *police band radio (to get intel) *lots of socks and underwear *a little food (3-4 days on half food isn't gonna kill you) *lots of water carrying and filtering/cleaning capacity *jacket/rain gear *broken in hiking boots *hat *head bug net *bug repellent *maps *compass/GPS unit *knife/multitool *pry bar & wire cutters *med kit /w boo boo kit All of that I can fit on my person and in a small backpack.

squealer

Qty 2 x "in-shape"

Aquanaut

I drive to work and then use a company truck to make deliveries up to an hour from the shop. Any thoughts on a very mobile easy to transfer from vehicle to vehicle kit. Currently I carry a rush 12 backpack as a daily catch all work bag. I also commute on my motorcycle as much as possible, PNW weather permitting.

Kenny Graves

Love it man. I built up my get home Bag over 3 years living in New Uork state. My commute at the time was 45 minutes I'd like to see how your kit compares to mine. Can't wait.

Roarke O'BRIEN

I keep most of that in my car for work currently. I don't have a dedicated bag but I keep a mini duffel with my gym stuff in the trunk that I could dump out and use if I needed to leave the car. Looking forward to see what tools you recommend for this kit because that's a area I'm slacking on. Thanks nutn.

Mike U.

Are you planning on ditching the vehicle? If yes, then this turns into a bugout-type bag loadout and rock on. If no, then some mechanism to store a little bit of fuel so it does not fume out the car and stores safely (1-3 gallons-ish - that gets you 20-60 miles), and something for tire repair/inflation. You mentioned basic tools (KISS). The two secondary most common issues after tires and gas would be a leak (hose or other line) and a belt breaking. Hose patch of some kind (Flex-tape or patch, etc.) and a spare serp belt(s) which are easy in-field repairs.

BadgerTails

It's a "get home" exercise, and your vehicle is now a no-go: what's in the vehicle to get you home, w/o the car/truck.

BadgerTails

Yes, he notes that the vehice is no longer a usable option.

Jonathan-James

One small item that always goes with my travel/get home gear, is a metal spoon. Those Sunday spoons with the long handle and smaller head. Keeps the fingers out of the mess when eating out of a can or sealed food bag. And it takes next to no room to store.

Dustin

It's incredible because I've been researching this recently and searched your channel freaking yesterday to see if you had posted about this (I couldn't remember). I think this would be a great full-length feature. Cannot wait. A few thoughts 1. I think bag should be prepared for worse case scenario: Ie. car is not recoverable and needs to be ditched. 2. Should be made for poor weather (snow/rain) as a year-round pack. 3. Consider a single bag for you and a loved one (ie. driving with your wife and disaster strikes) My main concern for a "get home" bag is water and warmth. It's easy to say keep a filter system with you, but what happens if you're not somewhere with readily available water or your filter breaks. Perhaps tablets. Perhaps water satchels in puncture resistant bags (not ideal). Second is what do you pack to keep you + a loved one reliably warm for two to three overnights? Weapons: CCW + PCC is probably ideal; possibly even 22 pistol and carbine to optimize space/weight constraints. Fixed blade. EDC blade. Tools: Gorilla tape, zip ties, paracord, basic fire kit Food: Minimal but would consider bars +/- 1-2 freeze dried meals First Aid: A must, and I would go bigger rather than smaller in this situation. Kit + Oral pain meds, anti-diarrheal, antibiotics, ointment, bug repellent. Basic hygiene - wet wipes, chapstick, sun screen. Extra set of clothes, or at least socks. Electronics - Maybe a solar powered battery bank. Headlamp.

Casey Jones

In this scenario, I’d have a Lifestraw for sure. Carry some water but that’s a lot of precious cargo weight. Lifestraw is a highly portable, inexpensive, disposable patch for water constraints

Cody Harring

For my Get Home Kit/Bag my focus is light and fast. I am in the Carolinas so keep this in mind. My thought process is more Tornado, Ice Storm, social unrest like terrorist attack etc. making travel difficult/impossible. I have a 4x4 truck so will take a lot for me to have to leave that and the gear it holds. I go with my EDC (compact size) for firearm. I would have 4 mags in my truck (1 in gun, 1 spare in EDC Holster, 1 in truck, 1 in kit). I do not go AR as I feel that would drive to much attention to me and heavy. My goal is to get back to my family as fast as possible. My kit is trying to blend in and not look like I have something others would want. Currently it sits at 23lbs (not including cloths or pistol) and no water in containers. I have water bottles in truck I would add or fill into pack before leaving. Life boat rations and energy bars to sustain me (cash to purchase stuff along the way) if available add 1-3 days into an issue/event I suspect it will be. Berkey water bottle to filter water and purification tablets. Olight Nova head lamp with extra batteries and a Olight Gober to be seen if needed, would also EDC Streamlight wedge. Level 1+ FAK plus a trauma kit. Tools: water key, Knipex mini bolt cutters, pliers, leatherman wave. Supplies: Gorilla tape, Zip-Ties, para-cord, heavy mil trash bags, etc. In my truck has extra clothing plus a winter supplement kit; shoes, extra socks, base layers, rain gear (very important in my area imo), I also even have nano spikes to go over shoes in icy conditions. Also your typical items, dust masks, reflective gear, battery backups, compass, local maps, SOL emergency bivy, etc. This is just a high level and review many of your others kits for the staples also included. Again I want speed and will avoid conflict as much as I can. Priority is to get back to my family as they rely on me. It will not be comfortable but this is a 3-4 day max as you said.

Cody Harring

Well said, my philosophy is very similar. I also look to speed and avoidance.

Michael Leeman

A Razor scooter can get you home 5x faster than walking.

Jesse A Johns

Yeah, I was thinking either the P50 or the RDB Survival Nutn did a review on a while back. The P50 is lighter, more compact and the ammo weighs less though.

David Gaines

I keep a very small copy of the New Testament, Proverbs and Psalms in my get home bag/car kit. I figure if I’m ever using it, things will be emotionally difficult and having scripture to read, especially if resting from walking, will go a long way to improve my moral.

Ace Invasive

Window breaking tool and seat belt cutter should be standard for a car. The grid usually goes down with emergencies and vehicle accident likelihood increases. Water, snacks, and ifak. Probably smaller arms to keep a low profile.

Andrew Baldwin

Came here to post my thoughts but rcischke already laid it out pretty well above. If I had a rifle at all (I don't currently) in a setup like this it would be small, light and in .22 LR. Hall of Famer Marlin Papoose comes to mind. Otherwise ammo and support gear for my EDC pistol as I don't see the "roving gangs of bad guys" getting organized and numerous that fast outside of big city centers that I would hope to avoid anyway. Other than that; a bit of backpacking food, lifestraw, compass & map or GPS if you can afford to stash one, a set of warm clothes and a change of socks. Outdoorsman blade, multi tool, FAK and a good bright flashlight. I keep a pair of boots in the car because this is Idaho and things can change from summer to winter in a matter of a half hour. I figure that would get me home from anywhere I'm likely to be within the 3-4 day max radius.

Gilbert Cuzdey Jr

I keep my 3 day bag system in the vehicle so I'd grab that. Edc pistol and a keltec 2K would be by defensive options. I have level 3+ plates in a low pro carrier in the vehicle but honestly I'd leave it. My on foot system wouldn't change much. I have a bunch of extra stuff in the vehicle but I wouldn't carry most of it. Maaaybe, I'd grab my first responder medical bag to supplement my 3 day bag. Short range comes could be a barfing uv5r but I don't incorporate one intp this system.

Lynn E Fite, Col (r)

Mounted operations offer significant options over dismounted (bugging out)

Lynn E Fite, Col (r)

Mounted operations allow so much more. For us ( 2 adults): in backpacks each Carrie’s a 22 wmr pistol, two 300 CCI tactical ammo boxes. Tent sleeping gear, fire matches, baton knife, alpine cook system, change of clothes, socks, tape, signal mirror, para cord, Bonnie hat, gloves, pocket knife, 1 Wave, 1 power pliers, three heavy duty contractor trash bag. Food: we rotate this: chicken buoghn cubes, hersheys dark chocolate nuggets, earl gray tea, . 3 five gallons of water, 2 five gallons of fuel.

Lynn E Fite, Col (r)

crazy fingers, in the 4x4 tundra with leer cover, kitchen set, 3 five gallons of water, 2 five gallon of fuel. Ruger American compact 22wmr, one CZ 22wmr, canned foods, portable shower, enhanced medical kit (each back pack, has one trauma kit, and a boo boo kit)

Lynn E Fite, Col (r)

ok I finally figured this posting out, sorry guys. Truck jack, tool kit, gorilla tape, bolt cutters, two camp chairs, two cans bear spray, two walk about walkie talkies ( internal use) Our primary focus is to avoid conflict. Lantern, spare fuel canisters, and two cans denatured alcohol. Nutn will have a great video on this topic. So many look at armed conflict, but when ROL returns, you will be accountable for your actions. A small Bible, and the reality is mst of this will be related to natural events hurricane, tornados, floods. We had to do this when our home was hit by a hirracine.

Colostomybag

I’ve always just kinda thought this made no sense. I can see if your car breaks down having boots, blankets, first aide, maybe some tools and oil to fix the car etc. But if my car dies I’m gonna call friends, get an Uber, or AAA. I’m always carrying a Glock 19 or 34 and probably have a few 33 rounders in my bag. I do not want to be walking 10+ miles with an ar through the suburbs. If you live in Alaska different story. If we are talking wrol I’m not leaving my house and if I really need to I’m just gonna pack up the car with my pre made duffle and extra gas. But I’m not gonna keep all that stuff in my car all the time. Do you really want to leave a car on the side of the road with a bunch of stuff that could be stolen? (guns & ammo)

wil perez

Bike rack. Vehicle. Vertx gamut pack. Bullpup rifle. If edc is iwb..bring owb holster. Water. First aid. Secondary comms. Map - assuming street signs are destroyed. Pvs14. Crowbar. Flathead screw driver. Lockpick set. Extra socks

Carl Bailey

I have been looking at the Guard Dog Cerberus plate carrier for an LBE. It has a detachable backpack and detachable mag pouch that would be handy for this POU. A set of 3A soft plates would add hardly any weight.

Racing Psychosis

I've been looking at adding a section of molle panel, something like from Builtright Industries to my truck bed to help strap the stuff in better.

Racing Psychosis

Locking and secretly securing firearms in a vehicle are always an issue.

Racing Psychosis

You definitely need a woobie in the vehicle.

Ol Retired Fed

Good broken in set of hiking boots. You ain't going any where with a load and crap shoes.

Todd Strelka

I got the SmittyBuilt Jerry Gas Can Holder on sale at Amazon. Those molle panels are cool. I've seen them in a F-450 on YouTube.

Ken Martins

Cash and some limited amount of gold (1/4 oz) and silver (few oz) just in case.

Zambini

I think in the weapons category having a very small PDW that is more easily concealable than a GTW AR/AK is huge for this POU. Something like a small Sig MPX, MP5K variant, P320 Flux Raider, Glock endo tactical adapter, etc. something that gives more capability than your CCW pistol but not something that others will easily see on me as I journey back home. I don’t want to be a target and easily seen with a weapon while me and everyone around are in a bad spot trying to get home.

Joshua Pulliam

The idea is that you are away from home when things go down. WROL, tornado, earthquake, etc. And you are unable to drive your vehicle home.

RECALL

SAWC power option: Halo battery. Two models, one with a 120V outlet (~$100 on Amazon) and one without (~$75). Both have a car jumpstart plug for gator clips, I’ve used multiple times. Recommend for consideration for this kit.

Robert Plested

GMRS radios. Not ham radio unless you're already licensed and active.

Bluegill097

From my personal kit: Sub2k with 3, 30 round mags and 2, 17 round mag. (Used in conjunction with my daily carry G19). SOG Fasthawk, 4 road flares, 3 mountain house freeze dried meals, SOL bivy sack, life straw and 1 liter bag, ball cap, cheap poncho, Woobie, magnifying glass, flint and striker, laundry lint in ziplock bag, map, old school mag light, OWB kydex holster, small no name brand multi tool and folding knife. All of the above stuffed into a black 5.11 sling bag. Trauma and boo-boo based FAK in the trunk can be crammed in there before departing. This is all mostly left over gear, I realize most of it isn’t tier one quality but it’s what I have. On long road trips I’ll also take a 300 blk suppressed BPO with a few mags of sub sonic.

Phillip Robinette McKracken

Spam, and more spam... seriously though, minimal foods..oat bars, whatever can be preserved on mars. Pig jerky.. you pick it.

PTL SCIENCE

I would most likely be at work on the 10th floor, so that limits what I can have. I always keep a folding 21 speed blackout bike in the car trunk with odometer. What I have in the office hanging file drawer is... Backpack with 120 ft 9mm static rope and related gear for rapelling, wrecking tool for opening an office window, 4x 700ml Ozarka water, 2 N95 filter mask, 60min smoke filter hood, goggles, black balaclava, fall jacket, black poncho with hood, silk longjohns, socks, EDC 9mm gun & xtra mag + 2-knife + 2-flashlight + 2-multitool + compass + 8x optic, Yaesu VX-8 HAM radio + 7 ft collapsible antenna - for home radio contact, map to bugout location, 4 energy bars, bath-in-ur-pocket.

Andrettski

Soo many ways one would go depends on geographical location. Urban/rural, climate/temps, time of year etc. I live in PNW all mtns and rivers to cross if i can't use roads. My commute to work was 36 miles into Portland so a bike would be huge but not practical to leave at work or stowed in vehicle at all times. Lot's of good comments for this discussion, obviously has everyone's attn, scary times in 'Clown World' right now

DudeDudeDude

When it gets bad I do not think many will care what the FCC thinks.

DudeDudeDude

Basic survival gear is needed. Water, maybe some food. Ability to keep warm overnight.

Matthew Sinn

I own both. SBR'd my P50. Both have made trips back to KelTec. Both are now 100% and I shoot them frequently. Wouldn't hesitate to pick up another P50 for the truck if I were to find a way to store it in the vehicle that I trusted to actually be secure. But the RDB-S is also a great option which would fit in most vehicles reasonably. Biggest argument for the latter I think would be ammo cost and availability in a WROL situation.

GarageJim_RMB

An independent energy source, I carry a GooLoo battery jumper, but it also can charge through USB, such as phones and Olights. Looks like everybody else has got the rest covered.

Mike Breckenridge

Living on the left coast and have had a GHB ever since the Northridge Earthquake. My list is too long to list here, but it’s designed for walking home approximately 30 miles and therefore needing rest periods. The good ole Boy Scout “10 essentials” is a good place to start.

Mobius 1

Something people might forget to add is wet wipes and Gold Bond. There's nothing worse than getting a groin chafe and make is impossible to walk to your destination. And wet wipes help you go #2 in the wilderness not to mention wipe your hands if they get nasty.

William Mann

I’ll admit that I haven’t read all 80 posts, so forgive me if this has already been covered, but over the course of 3-4 days, you’ll really need some personal hygiene capabilities, including this ability to relieve yourself without hunting for a bathroom. I keep a wide mouth bottle in a gallon size ziplock bag (for pee) in a yeti bucket with an airtight lid. The bucket also has some kitty litter and flushable wipes.

Rob Miller

Y’all covered gear well already. All I can add is FITNESS. Start rucking and doing heavy carries. Here’s a benchmark: I’m 57 years old and I did a 70 # carry a couple weeks ago. Covered 1.54 miles in 26 min. 88 degrees and barely broke a sweat. Without fitness all your fancy gear is worthless. Fatigue makes cowards of us all.

Hudson

Something to stay warm with. An extra sweatshirt, blanket, pack of hand warmers, or similar item if there's room for it in the vehicle kit. A sleepless night because you're freezing puts you at a mental disadvantage for the rest of the trip. Also, less about the kit and more about the vehicle...making sure people care for what's going to get them from A to B! The amount of people that do not check their oil, coolant, or tire pressure at least occasionally is staggering.

Phillip Robinette McKracken

I like that DG chicken in a can more recently. Along with taco bell medium sauce. Any of it sounds better than fresh rat or worms. Best regards!

The Nutnfancy Project

So true. Gold bond now is total crap however: they replaced the talc with cornstarch, no joke. Your old Gold Bond has talc. I buy talc from Amazon for the xlnt reasons you note

Mike S

A good durable pack and good hiking boots/shoes would be a start. Lots of folks have covered gear already, so I'll try to cover another thing worth mentioning. I would put a lot of stock in personal fitness for this kind of kit. You're not going to hike long distances if you don't have at least some good cardio and decent core strength to help carry your pack. More than anything, extra non perishable food and a good supply of water would help a lot. You'll burn a lot of calories while on foot so you need to replenish your energy and hydration reserves. I've had good luck with the geopress grayl water filter on a previous hike in the Ozarks which you can also drink out of that filter. I would also recommend a Klymit static V air mattress that is super compact and folds very easily. As a guy who got caught in a rainstorm during a hike, getting off the cold wet ground was a huge help when resting in my tent. Hand wipes are also huge to keep your hands clean from filth. As far as armaments go, I would at least stick with a handgun just for the portability. Like Nutn said, you're not going to be fighting a war. Evasion and stealth will be a better alternative to fighting.

Phillip Robinette McKracken

I prefer option #2. Stay out of the office most of the time. Use blue screen on Teams meetings. Home is best. If you need a map to your bug out location... you may need more practice.

Mobius 1

Damn really? Well what are your recommended alternatives?

Mobius 1

Ik fitness is my weakness rn. Ive been running at the gym and lifting for over a week now. Already seeing slight improvements in how long I can run.

Todd Austin

I drove my own vehicle for a sales route for many years and beyond all the obvious gear and clothing I would suggest a broken in pair of hiking/running shoes depending on your area. I had to wear dress shoes for work but always had those Columbia hikers in case I had to walk home 20-100 miles depending on the route and nature of a disaster.

panadero190

This might be the one scenario where I would consider a PCC. Due to weight and common caliber with pistol. Normally, I am 150% on the side of a rifle caliber. Either way, it is tough to predict whether carrying a long gun would get you in more trouble or less. I expect LE will be somewhat active in nearly every case. Roadblocks possible. Even military could be in place given 3 - 5 days. Thumbs up on all the other mentions.

Matt Mann USA

For a get-home bag, you want to pack as light as possible for your local/regional environment and for the current season (pack light - freeze at night) so you can move quickly. You also want to sustain yourself on calorie-dense food you packed, rather than having to hunt/fish/gather along the way – which would greatly extend the duration of your trek home. Food is the most difficult part of survival. Everything else is easy as long as you’re in good physical condition. My backpack is a large ALICE ruck. I seem to be the only one who likes the ALICE ruck, but I’ve been using these for over 20 years and I think they’re great. I reinforced the frame by drilling out the original rivets, enlarging the holes and re-riveting with larger/stronger rivets. I replaced the metal hardware with Fastex buckles wherever applicable. I also applied a small amount of toothpaste to the inside of the shoulder straps where they wrap around the frame to cut down on squeaking. If you’re more than a day’s journey from home, you’ll need a season-appropriate sleeping bag and a waterproof shelter. I use the Wiggy’s Ultima Thule system, which includes separate lightweight and mid-weight sleeping bags that can be zipped one inside the other to make a -60° heavy winter sleeping bag. I use a USGI poncho as a shelter top. I also pack a pocket-size jungle hammock and a bivy bag to waterproof the sleeping bag itself, but those items aren’t necessities. My poncho is pre-rigged with paracord for tying between trees and staking the corners to the ground. I also carry about 30 feet of extra paracord. We have no shortage of water in my area; there are lakes and streams all over the place. I use a MSR MiniWorks water filter, which screws directly to a wide mouth Nalgene bottle. Water bladder hoses will freeze in the winter (even if the hose is insulated). Water in a Nalgene bottle will slosh around while you’re walking, and you can keep the Bottle in your sleeping bag at night to prevent freezing without worrying about it leaking. The MSR MiniWorks has a ceramic filter element with no consumable parts; you can clean it and continue to use it indefinitely. Since the point of this bag is to get you home, you’ll need at least a compass and a map, and you really should have pace-counter beads too. Map tools (ruler, protractor, grid plotter) and a GPS are optional. I think the Garmin 64sx is the best GPS currently produced. My compass is a Suunto MC2 with sighting notch and mirror in the lid. 1:24K USGS maps are the most detailed, but up to 1:100K maps can be used effectively. Any potential route from my work to home requires a minimum of six 1:24K maps, but only one 100K map. 1:50K maps of my area are from 1958, but other areas may have more recently updated maps available. For food, bring MREs, Clif bars, Gatorade protein bars, Ramen noodles, Knorr’s pasta and rice sides, and tuna and/or chicken in mylar envelopes. Learn to identify your local edible plants to add vitamins and minerals to your meals. GSI makes a stainless cup that perfectly fits the bottom half of a 32oz Nalgene Bottle to save space in your pack. You can use that cup for all of your cooking. The spoon from an MRE is sufficient for all your cooking and eating. I pack a Solo Stove for fast and discreet cooking, but it’s not a necessity. You can make a small fire to cook over in a sufficiently secluded spot. The best lighter is the Maratac Peanut XL Titanium; it’s basically an airtight Zippo. I keep spare fuel for mine in my pack. It will also burn a variety of other liquid fuels, just like a Zippo. For tools, I use a Silky Saw Pocketboy Outback, a Council Tool Hudson Bay Camp Axe (19”), and a Cold Steel SRK. I keep a Petzl Tactikka white/red lens headlamp in my pack, but I don’t use any artificial lights outdoors unless I absolutely must. You’ll want a toothbrush for a multi-day trip. Toothpaste isn’t required. Wet wipes are nice to have. A quality First Aid kit can be assembled with items from Chinook Medical. Pack natural-colored clothing and quality hiking boots. I keep a sage green flight suit and camo cover in my bag, and the only footwear I ever wear are the amazingly light Danner Tachyon boots (although I do keep cold-weather boots in my vehicle in the winter, as well as snowshoes). I also keep a camo hunter’s balaclava in my pack, because it’s much easier to don and doff than face paint. And I always have a pocket-size mosquito headnet in my vehicle. The bugs are terrible here between May and August. For a firearm, I carry a 4” GP100 in .357 Magnum. My revolver is equipped with Meprolight tritium sights and Hogue’s nylon grip. I have OWB Kydex holsters, an Elite Survival Systems bandolier-style shoulder holster, and plenty of spare ammo. The GP100 is capable of good accuracy to at least 100 yards, and my entire region is densely forested – so 100 yards here is a fairly long shot.

J Ram

I'm in the line of thinking of most of the others on here regarding a pack that is in the back of my truck and stays there (to a point you bring up Colonel about packing it and writing it off). I have a separate bag that I have extra clothes/shoes in that would allow me to change to adapt to weather/conditions. My pack includes most of the stuff already mentioned, a way to carry water (I keep extra water bottles in my truck), heat water, generate fire, IFAK, map/compass, light, knife, etc, etc. A couple of things I didn't see above that I have packed and may be worth mentioning is an army green/issue wool blanket (multiple uses), hand hack saw for any metal/locks I may need to deal with and a sillock water key. Oh and I didn't see anyone mention yet powdered hydration like LiquidIV or powdered Gatorade to help replace/maintain electrolytes from all the activity a person may potentially be doing. If I'm being honest, most of the stuff in my pack is based on ideas from a couple of your videos you did several years back with just a few adjustments.

TNSheep

I like this concept.

Kinoons

My system expands and contracts as needed. A maxpedition sling bag lives in the car with H2O, a few snacks, basic tools/lights and L1 FAK, solar panel, and mini bivy bag. If I’m traveling out of town then the hybrid USK/BEL bag gets added with much more gear. Some duplicated in the sling bag, but much more firepower. Comms, binocs, better fire kit, water filter, stove, bigger knife, more tools, clothing as appropriate. I also have a small Bluetooth speaker and stick audio player. Independent device for tunes can be nice. If I believe getting stranded may also be an issue (bad weather, really remote) a third small backpack (think those free or cheap “3 day assault packs”) gets added with a real 2 person tent, 2 hurricane sleeping bags, two inflatable ground pads, two inflatable pillows. I assume I’ll have my EDC pistol so no additional firearms unless I’ve upgunned for HPAC reasons. Where the spare tire goes I do have a vacuum bag with some extra clothing and two thin blankets that also lives in the car. Using the vacuum bag (3ft by 4ft) allows those supplies to be kept pretty thin to fit.

Kyle weyerbacher

Where I live we are prone to getting a lot of snow-that being said I pack cheap 2nd hand store snow shoes, and boot gators and old hiking shoes for when you do have to leave the vehicle. Also we have little ones so I pack 2nd hand store snow suits for them and a kid carrying pack. Snacks and water mainly for them. I can make it a long ways with little but the family adds a lot. I’d like to find a good compact sled for dragging as I will have one or more kids on me. Or a sled that I can strap a couple kids in and run a pack. Any suggestions on that let me know. I’m big on vehicle maintenance since I work on all my stuff: so don’t overlook good tires, patch kit and inflater, battery age, a jump pack, spare fuses etc. no sense walking home for a something that can be fixed.

Racing Psychosis

Electrolytes are something I always have in my normal get home pack that rides with me, but some extra in a vehicle kit, would not hurt.

BadgerTails

Addition: with the kiddos, put an old snow sled at the bottom of it all for pulling kit/kids through the snows?!

Rob Miller

Nice work hitting the gym! Look into rucking if low impact interests you. GORUCK makes great gear but I started with a bookbag and bricks. WalMart online sells a Synergy ruck plate for a deal to save $$$ getting into it. Beats the treadmill!!!

Kyle weyerbacher

Every sled I’ve seen takes up a lot of room. The best I’ve seen is the old school metal saucers, but that would be miserable to pull as it would not track straight. Do you have a good option for a sled that would be space efficient?

BadgerTails

Just one of those old school plastic ones that's like 24" wide and 40" long or so. Put it at the very bottom, everything goes into it. As somebody else mentioned, I'll go shop for these items at Goodwill or Salvation Army stores, they have cool/weird stuff.

Chris carr

I carry heavy on 1st aid and food I can always drop it but I’m here to help, and in a situation like this I trust humanity probably to much but I’m sure I’ll make friends along the way. Fire kit. I live in a place where you will die without it. So ya I’m going heavy and have a rolling tool cart that I can empty and put stuff in if I have to go on foot and I feel the roads are safe. And yes I’m carrying comms. Because you might get help from ham guys, they seem to be more prepared than the norm

Harold Galen McPheron

Extra socks is a must, and some sort of warming blanket and light weight shelter...

Clint Allison

Probably part of a different kit but a tire plugging kit and a c02 inflator or a tiny 12v compressor might be all you need to drive home instead of walking.

Rod Greene

Until you have built and rebuilt your GHB several times it is not good to go. If your GHB doesn’t go in your trunk, choose a backpack that matches the interior of your car. That said, here’s the minimum GHB loadout: $20 bills ($500) 5-Hour Energy Ball Cap / Knit Hat Energizer AA Lithium Batteries only (no AAA and no Duracell) Boots (broken in) / Socks (wool) Candy / Electrolyte Tablets Chem-Lights (2) 12-hr Extra Pair of Glasses/Sunglasses Compass/Map Contact List (Printed) Credit Card for Gas Dust Masks (3) / Bandana Eating Utensils Extra House Key First-Aid Kit :Antiseptic/Advil/Antacid Flashlight (18650) O-light Glass-Break / Seat Belt Cutter Headlamp (AA) Streamlight Knife – fixed or folder Lighter and Fire-Steel Lip-Balm/Chapstick Nitrile Gloves (2 pr) Paracord Pen/Sharpie/Notepad & Post-its Photos of your family/pets Protein Bars /Powdered Lemonade/Coffee Purell Hand Sanitizer, AM FM Radio (with earbuds) Reflective Safety Vest Space Blanket Sun Screen/Sunblock T-Shirt & Underwear Toilet Paper (1/2 roll) Trash Bag Water Bottle (40-oz!) Whistle Work Gloves Zip Ties Ziplock Bag  

Matt

For food something mouse proof is probably good. I never even thought of that but I recently had a mouse living in my car and the car is only a year old. Never had that happen before and used to always keep some food in my previous cars with no issue.

The Happy Friar

I deliver mail around my house so realistically I'm no more then 5 miles away. I dress/pack for the expectant weather (don't necessarily wear it). Keep a wool blanket and first aid in the vehicle. Also: •disposable lighter •USB charging cables for devices I have. •socket USB adapter •wall USB adapter •screwdriver •wet wipes •napkins •electrical tape (good as a nonstick bandage) •GPS app that doesn't require internet (save battery) •socket(s) compatible with my lugnuts •12v tire inflator •air compressor tire inflator •pens/pencils •tire pressure gage •bungie cords •ratchet tie-down •folding knife During winter I add a small shovel and tow rope. This is based on my having someone I can relatively trust within 5 minutes (or so) walk. Also, I've found lots of rural folk have something to help me (ie air compressor) but not a tire chuck. Might have a breaker bar but not socket I need, etc. If I'm traveling I'd normally add a handgun. Also the stuff i have can normally help others out too.

Pickles_45

Is this stored in a trunk area? Will you touch on options to secure it? Asking as someone who had a GHB with a pistol stolen years ago. Nothing stays in my car nowadays…!

Joey

I agree, I have the gp4000 gooloo and I’ve used it several times. Wonderful addition to anyone’s vehicle! I got the recommendation from YouTuber project farm. He’s a great non bias resource for tools and equipment.

Joey

Vaseline is a great alternative to help chafing. It helps with the friction and rubbing. It also seconds as a great fire starter.

Joey

How well does the Maratac lighter store long term? I’ve stored zippos in the past but the lighter fluid dries out over time and now I keep the lighter fluid with them in certain kits. Does the Maratac have that issue?

Joey

We have theft problems in my area as well. I always keep a cheap gun in the glove box as a diversion (~$100-$200 gun). I suspect a thief will go there first. I think they would not search/steal anything else after grabbing that. All while my nice gear is secure in mostly inconspicuous/disguised areas. I secure my kit with a bike rope lock.

Matt Mann USA

The Maratac Peanut XL titanium is the largest lighter Maratac makes. Mine was from an early run and the insides rattle slightly. The newer ones have a tighter fit. My lid doesn't fit as tightly as the newer ones either, so my O-ring should probably be replaced. That being said, I haven't ever found mine to be completely dried out; it always lights when I need it. I do, however, top it off from time to time, usually when I'm about to go camping or on a road trip. I would estimate that it could use a refill every 6 months if it wasn't topped off. When I carried a Zippo – I had to refill that every two weeks.

TechNeck

My truck is always ready for disaster. 72 hours of food, stove and a pot, -20 sleeping bag, tools... like fix most mechanical issues big or small. Most of the time when im away from home a rifle comes with me, with around 50 rounds of ammo. Extra winter kit, case of water, cash and a few pms. A very extensive tccc trama kit lives in my truck as well, with lots of extras. Compas, flashlights, spare batteries. Also a welder on the back lol...

Nathan Simms aka Darkpriest

In shape: Yes -- literally needs to be emphasized over an over.. I swear Nutn, instead of soldier boy just have satellites all over the US and have them go out and ask TNPers can you run a mile in your gear?

Brandon conley

I feel like I’m really late to this party, but my philosophy on this kit is grey, light and fast. I spend a lot of time driving my metropolitan area for work. I don’t want to be loaded down with a lot of weight because I want to be able to arrive at home within 2 days or so of a major event. I have wife and kids at home counting on me getting there. I’m often driving by GPS to places I’ve never been, so a paper map is key too. My armor for this kit is 3a soft from Botac, it lives in the laptop pocket of my daily backpack. It’s black (white would work too.) So it hopefully will blend with my clothing choices and not look “tactical.” AR pistol and 3 mags fits in that same laptop pocket broken in half. The 3a panels keep it from digging into my back. It’s a little heavy, but it looks like any business backpack. I like it.

Brandon conley

How about a cheep ham (baofeng) programmed to GMRS freq. you can get more umph, but on common channels where you’re more likely to reach people. In an emergency situation you don’t need a license.

Tacticaldoodle

A large 3 or 4 XL jersey of whatever the fave sportsball teams are always seemed like a good inclusion, because you can tuck your plates underneath and look like a regular poorfat. Even better if yo go whole-hog and put in closures to access pouches

Brandon conley

I use gold bond friction defense, it looks like deodorant. Applied to the nethers I’ve never chafed again!

Brandon conley

Jersey is a great idea for when the weather gets warm. When it’s cold I’ve just been planning on using my puffy warm vest to make it disappear.

Maplebrew

Thule rooftop cargo box is a sled