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64(P) - 2020 Candidate Guide: Beto O'Rourke ft. Elizabeth Bruenig (Patreon)

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Washington Post columnist Elizabeth Bruenig (@EBruenig) joins us to discuss why progressives and the left should be skeptical of the signals Beto O'Rourke is sending early in his possible 2020 presidential run. What are Beto's positives? Beto's play on charisma over policy boldness. How to judge candidates who are coming from the center but adopting progressive positions? Why do Beto's supporters insist he's as "progressive" as Bernie instead of defending the objectively to-the-right economic positions the candidates hold.

 "Why this progressive Texan can’t get excited about Beto O’Rourke" by Liz here.

"My advice to progressives: Don’t back down" here.


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Greg Albrecht

Not to have younger faces running in 2020 will be a tremendous mistake. I'm thinking Beto and Stacy. And I'm an old guy who got "radicalized" living on The Hill in Boulder, CO during the late 60's. We made a good start on rooting out "the old white guys" in 2018. I've stated this before that purity got us Gorsuch, Kavenaugh, McConnell, Ryan and Trump. GOP took forty some years to get us there. Change is incremental.

J P 3
>>18096772

Abrams sounds much better than Beto. Don't agree that purity got us the GOP trifecta. The bigger issue was running a very unpopular nominee who ran one of the most inept general election campaigns in history. The next nominee needs to spend more time and money trying to win Wisconsin and Michigan than on the election night victory party. A simple celebration is fine on election night. The big party can wait until the week of the inauguration. See Obama 2008. Also, if the goal is to mobilize young voters, it helps to have a candidate who can credibly speak to young people. Sanders has his flaws, but his problem wasn't mobilizing the young or independents. Finally, real change tends to be extremely disruptive. Nothing incremental about the Civil War / Reconstruction, the New Deal, the Civil Rights Act or the Great Society. The kind of change that tends to be incremental is the reactionary kind -- where hard won rights are rolled back in a way that you only start to notice gradually. Reagan et al didn't engage in a frontal assault on the regulatory state or Social Security.

Greg Albrecht

A corollary to the above. I think Sanders/Abrams would be unbeatable in 2020.,

J P 3
>>18128242

Honestly, I think almost any Dem will be able to win in 2020. I don't think Trump will be able to top his 2016 numbers. So for me it boils down to process, and policies. Vote your heart in the primary, and vote D in the general regardless of who the nominee is -- hope that the nominee is able to build a winning coalition, has vision, and will do something to end not just the Trump presidency, but Trumpism.