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I'm not so concerned with picking a side & feeling emotionally connected to it, i'm on team humanity & team balance, my philosophy continues to be "whatever works". That said, I found this conversation to be fantastic between two talkers that I listen to frequently.

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Zero Squared #166: Free Speech, Socialism, and the Intellectual Dark Web

Support Zero Books on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/zerobooks Subscribe: http://bit.ly/SubZeroBooks This podcast features a conversation with Glenn Loury. Professor Loury is a Merton P. Stoltz Professor of the Social Sciences at Brown University, the author of The Anatomy of Racial Inequality, the host of the Glenn Show at bloggingheads.tv, a quasi member of the Intellectual Dark Web (he is, at the very least, scheduled to sit on a panel with Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and Bret Weinstein in November in order to discuss the topic of race) and a returning guest to this podcast. The Glenn Show at Bloggingheads.tv https://bloggingheads.tv/programs/glenn-show Support us on Patreon and get access to the Herding Cats: Capital Reading Group https://www.patreon.com/zerobooks Watch the most popular Zero Books episodes: http://bit.ly/2KbC2hF Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ZeroBooks/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/zer0books Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/zerobooks Zero Books Manifesto: The modern world is at an impasse. Disasters scroll across our smartphone screens and we’re invited to like, follow or upvote, but critical thinking is harder and harder to find. Rather than connecting us in common struggle and debate, the internet has sped up and deepened a long-standing process of alienation and atomization. Zer0 Books wants to work against this trend.

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Andrew M. Reichart

Wish I could sum up succinctly how I tend to diverge from Glenn's approach. I guess one way to put it is: I think he's focused on the "culture war" as though it's more materially significant than it is, and disregarding the effects of actual material "canceling" such as police & military violence, incarceration, and unjust distribution of material resources. Yes, literally hundreds of people lose their jobs because they say the wrong thing, and thousands of people get hounded by leftists on social media -- and it's often disproportionate, certainly garish, and sometimes even has some material side effects. Meanwhile millions of people are in cages (only 5% of them having gotten a trial) and billions are kept artificially poor by exploitation & extraction (with lethal results). I'm not saying the culture war stuff is harmless, I'm saying it's a bad splinter and meanwhile there's arterial bleeding, and focusing on the splinter seems weird to me. 🤷‍♂️

Sean Äaberg

I feel like Glenn Lowry has a ways to go, but I can see that he has that ability to change in a way that a lot of conservative don't.

Andrew M. Reichart

I was definitely struck by his willingness to not double-down when he got legitimately challenged -- I respect that genuine commitment to honest discourse.

Andrew M. Reichart

I also really liked that he brought up family separation with incarceration & foster care (and the conspicuous lack of liberal outrage about it) -- something I've pointed out a lot in the past couple of years.