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Bruce Wayne

Not sticking up for Hugh Hefner- but saying a lot of stuff he did was “nonconsensual” and then proceeding to ONLY give examples that WERE consensual. Really makes it seem like you’re saying the women weren’t responsible for their actions. Which is a sexist take, because if he was taking advantage of their bodies or whatever, then THEY were taking advantage of his fame and power.

Bruce Wayne

How do we know that Hugh was the one being like “if you have sex with me, I’ll make you rich and famous”, and NOT the women saying “if you make me rich and famous, then I’ll have sex with you”? You DONT know.

Anonymous

qt mentioned the insane power dynamic between hefner and the women he exploited. this power dynamic would have made relationships with these women inherently coercive and therefore non-consensual. a quick google search and you can read about the ways that hefner used his power to manipulate women into having sex with him.

Connor Brankin

Damn, crazy, thoughtful ep. Keep it up homies.

megs

lmao to be like "not sticking up for hugh hefner" and then victim blaming when the women were in a power dynamic that's likely impossible to handle (like the person above me said) is an insane reaction to what qt and maya were discussing

tilly

reacting this way to a disgusting man who used women and minors as sexual objects and accessories and essentially creating a harem is wild. coercion is not consent and with the money and power he had it's literally not possible for the women involved to 'take advantage' of him because of the power dynamic between a male multi-millionaire pimp and his female sex slaves. and we DO know hugh was the one taking advantage of women from the countless stories from ex-bunnies of constant rapes, druggings, trafficking and prostitution of not just adult women but minors. if your first instinct when hearing about a dead pimp who used women and girls for their bodies for his entire life is to defend him and blame the women, you should really check yourself.

Bruce Wayne

12 young healthy women vs 1 naked old man lying on a bed. Sounds like the women have all the power in that situation.