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KinnPorsche Episode 14 (Full Reaction) (Patreon)

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Wendy

Oh my god, I've never seen you get emotional over a character before - I loved it (sorry!). I understand it, though, I love Vegas & Pete, and their entire story wrecked me. In a good way. The whole show was just brilliant from start to finish.

Wendy

You're probably not going to like me for this, but I have to stick up a little bit for Gun. I totally believe that the version of events he gave is the truth, not least of all because it correlates precisely with what Porsche remembered from the day his parents died (Korn's version, as you mentioned, changed just about every detail). But aside from that, Gun is actually no different from Vegas. They are the same. Both were treated badly by their fathers, abused and belittled. Both felt like they couldn't compare or compete with someone else (Korn and Kinn), and were made to feel worthless. If you can recognise the hurt that Vegas both suffers and inflicts on others and blame his father for it, then it should be possible to recognise that same hurt in Gun that he both suffers and inflicts on others. Gun lost his love, Nampeung, but Vegas still has Pete and that's what is going to make the difference. I also take the opinion that because Gun loved Nampeung, his interest as a father figure was with her son, Porsche (who he never once tried to harm, even tried to protect) and not with his own sons. It's made to look as if he compares Vegas with Kinn, and maybe he does to a degree, but I think he compares Vegas to Porsche and that's why he tells Vegas that he's not worthy of being his son right after Vegas almost kills Porsche. We don't know how long Gun was in love with with Nampeung for , so (and this might be a very long shot in the dark) the chance is that Porsche might actually be Gun's son and that was what Gun was cut off from saying when he was shot in the head. Or maybe I'm just too caught up in the idea that Korn gave Gun's family crest ring to Porsche now he's head of the minor family. It all seems a bit too poetic and "full circle" for it to not be significant. I don't know. Maybe all this is cleared up in the novel but I haven't read it. What I'm certain of is that Korn is doing some elite master-level brainwashing with everyone - mainly Nampeung, but also Porsche (courtesy of Uncle Thee) and Gun too. Nampeung didn't take pills to kill herself, she's been drugged for years and had false memories fed to her. In short, yes, Gun's a horrible person, but like Vegas he's a product of his familial circumstances and father's lack of care and love.

Wendy
>>89570347

Oh man, I feel bad for this comment now. I typed it before we got to the scene where Vegas got shot. I had no idea you would break down like that. Thank you for not cutting it out of the reaction, it meant a lot to see someone else feel the same way that I did when I first saw it.

Eva van Galen
>>89571571

I absolutely agree with you that I believe Gun's side of the story, since it just makes more sense/seems more believable and I don't trust Korn at all. Gun seems to be a product of his own father's abuse and he was probably compared a lot to Korn. I do think he compares Vegas to Kinn, not so much to Porsche. Like he said, he first thought Porsche and Chay were dead until Porsche was hired. At that point he already had been abusing and comparing Vegas to Kinn for years. I still hate Gun a lot, also cause I read the novel in which he was really homophobic. This is literally the only thing I like about Korn, that he doesn't care who his kids love. The only time Gun respected Vegas more than Kinn was when he found out that Kinn was gay, but then he realized Vegas was the same and went back to hating and belittling him. He also pretty much whored Vegas out to male business partners for favors all the while disrespecting him for being gay. So honestly f*ck Gun and Korn. Sorry just had to get that of my chest.

Staywithme20four7

To be honest the last part of the reaction annoyed me so much that I really enjoyed the crying part and shortly wished they really hadn't shown that after credit scene.

Wendy
>>89571571

Okay, fair enough. I accept what you say about Gun. I don't have the knowledge of his character that you do from reading the novel, so I had no idea he was a homophobic bigot. I was just basing my opinions solely on the series - sounds like they really watered him down. Anyway, yes, f*ck Gun in that case. I do agree that Gun compares Vegas to Kinn, but moreso when it comes to the business side of the family. When it comes to the relationship side of things I still think it's Porsche that Vegas is compared to. He's Nampeung's son, so it's only reasonable to expect that Gun would look at him more as a son than a nephew. And definitely with more warmth than he regards Vegas or Macau. Gun doesn't seem to have much love or respect for their mother either, so that's another reason for him to look more favourably on Porsche. I appreciate that this is conjecture on my part as nothing was made explicitly clear in the series, but just the fact that Gun wanted Vegas to keep an eye on Porsche and not to hurt him (I don't know if Gun's actor was told to play it this way, but did you see his face after Kinn disciplined Porsche by choking him out? He actually looked shocked and uncomfortable), and that he offered his home to Porsche during the coup of episode 14 as a place where he would be safe and protected, while arming his actual son and sending him to what could have been his death, suggests to me he displays more care for Porsche than Vegas. If the novel says otherwise, please correct me. Korn, on the other hand, does love his sons. And like you said he lets them love whoever they choose. And for those two reasons alone I do kind of like him as a character. But the lies. Faking your own death - in front of one of your sons - and letting them grieve over you (Tankhun broke my heart) is unforgiveable to me. I don't understand how they were all able to forgive him so easily. I like characters that are devious and scheming, and it certainly suits Korn's role. But not your own family.

Eva van Galen
>>89571571

There's not much information in the novel about how Gun views Porsche, it is however clear he loves his mother. And he most likely views him above his own sons. He has no respect for Vegas and Macau's mother and there is little information about her, only that she most likely died. His new girlfriend btw looked eerily like Porsche's mom, but she has not made an appearance in the show. The coup played out differently in the novel, so while I would love to comment on this, it depends on whether you want to know how. Gun btw still died, but other things were changed. In the books Korn was also manipulative, probably more so than in the show, but he does seem to love his sons. Although he's not above putting them against each other, as portrayed by the male beta fish he keeps. I'm curious how you viewed Kim's expression after the news of his death was confirmed. I think it's a good reference to a plotline in the novel, they most likely are going to further develop in new books.

Wendy
>>89571571

That's interesting regarding the fish that Korn keeps. I hadn't picked up on that from the show. Is this something that's from the novel? But yes, I can believe he would pit his sons against each other if it was of benefit to him. I really don't blame Kim for getting out of the family home as soon as he could. To me, Kim's expression after Korn's death wasn't one of a son who had just lost his father. He was the least affected by it, outwardly anyway (and I think he probably does keep his emotions internalised). I felt it was more about what was to come next. Frustration, maybe, that Kinn hadn't been more on top of things. Korn's metaphor from earlier in the series, about Kinn being the knife and Porsche being the apple juice that rusts the blade springs to mind here. Kim's exchange of looks with Chan the bodyguard always gives me goosebumps every time I watch it, it says so much in just a couple of seconds. Shared awareness that the minor family is going to take advantage of the situation, and acceptance that the major family is not in a strong enough position to withstand an attack. Worry about how Kinn's going to assert his authority, and even a resignation that they and the people they care about might not make it out alive. It's a loaded moment. I'm really intrigued now to know what this might connect to in the novel. I don't mind novel spoilers, by the way, it's fine. Feel free to go into more detail about the coup or anything else. I'm unlikely to ever read it (although I did purchase the first one because Bible took the time to translate it and that's pretty impressive and I think unheard of for an actor to do).

Eva van Galen
>>89571571

In the novel Korn never faked his death, but Gun still attacked the minor family. There in front of everyone it was revealed that Porsche's mom was their adoptive sister. They had that whole discussion about who raped her after which she killed herself, both of them claiming it was the other one. It's revealed that Korn preserved his sisters body in a glass box? (super weird). So she isn't alive in the novel. When just like in the series Gun wanted to reveal something and he was killed by Korn. In the novel Vegas was in a car accident after driving away once his father was murdered, when he landed in a coma. After he woke up, Korn made him sign over the rights to the minor family but told him he still had to work for them until they understood al their dealings. Porsche was crowned the head of the minor family, probably since he is easier to control. However it's revealed Porsche doesn't really trust him and together with Vegas he plans to find out what really happened. Meanwhile Korn promises to Kinn that he will eventually become the leader of the major family, by giving him his ring. But behind the scenes he has a powerful secret unit of which he makes Kim the leader. Therefore putting the brothers against each other. He tells his head bodyguard he will observe who is hthe strongest brother. In the novel Kim is a little bit shady and he always seems to be aware of his father's plans. In episode 13 Korn asked to see Kim probably to tell him about his plan. I agree he didn't seem to care and I think that's because he already knew he wasn't dead. The head bodyguard of Korn is the only one who always knows his plans. So I personally thought that's why they shared that look. The head bodyguard doesn't die in the novel btw. On this cliffhanger the novel ended, so that's were my extra information stops.

Wendy
>>89571571

There really are quite a lot of changes then from the novel to the series. The only one I knew about before this was the addition of Ken and changing who the mole was. Some of them I like - I agree the preserving of Nampeung's body is really weird. I don't know if that would have fit in with the direction the series was taking. Although I'm not sure if I like her being alive either. It changes the dynamic of Porsche and Porchay's relationship with each other. Maybe I'll change my mind on that when we see what they have planned for the second series. I definitely prefer Vegas getting shot over being in a car accident - I loved the drama of it, and Build's acting was phenomenal. I really want to know how Vegas will feel about losing his place as the head of the minor family. I know he indicated that he wanted to start over with Pete, just the two of them, but did he really mean giving up his Mafia lifestyle. He seems pretty hung up on the fact that he has nothing left of it. I'm looking forward to that most in series 2. And where does it leave Macau? With Gun and Vegas out of the picture, he should have been the new head of the minor family. Can't lie, a part of me would love to see a round 2 with Macau, Porsche and the fish pond. You know, I'm not surprised by any of what you've told me about Kim. He always struck me as being the most dangerous brother. He doesn't get emotionally invested in anything (well, with one exception), he keeps his secrets hidden, doesn't reveal what he's thinking. Kinn is, as Korn said, too hot headed. He reveals too much. God knows Vegas knew this and took advantage of it. It all makes perfect sense if the series writers decide to follow the direction of the novel with Kim. That would actually be something I'd like to see - some friction and confliction between Kim and Kinn. And any potential consequences it would have for Porsche and Porchay. Maybe your thoughts about the look exchanged between Chan and Kim are right. Like I said, it always gives me goosebumps and maybe there's a reason why. Maybe there is a deeper meaning behind it that I didn't know of but still picked up on. It was definitely a super-charged moment. Great acting if that was the intention. Thanks for sharing all that, it's been very insightful. Really appreciate it!