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Poll: Male Model

  • I like the original more 8
  • I like the revised one more 43
  • I like them both about equally 60
  • I don't like either of them 2
  • 2018-03-15
  • —2018-03-23
  • 113 votes
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Greetings!

There were a number of critiques of the original model for Tal'thelas, so I went back and made a large number of subtle changes to come up with an alternate one.

Now, this is an elf, so I want him to look somewhat feminine. As I said in the last update, I may create some characters with exaggerated masculine features in the future, but elves will not be among them. At the same time, though, I don't want him to actually look like a girl, or to occupy some uncanny space in between.

I've created a few renders that show off both the original model and the new one. In the pictures below, the first will be the original model and the next the new one:

Expressions:

Original:

Revised:

Shirtless:

Original:

Revised:

Omake from last week:

Original:

Revised:

So what do you guys think about the models? Do you like the original or revised more? Do you like neither, or do you like them about the same?

The differences are subtle, so if you really want to get into it, you may need to download the pics and flip between them on full screen (that's what I do). Also, I didn't change the eye color, which I probably will do on the final version. Finally, I didn't do a lot of postwork on them since they're just meant to show off the models, so you may see a couple of visual artifacts.

As an aside, do you guys like seeing in progress/behind the scenes stuff? I'm kinda afraid it will take away "the magic" if you see too much of it, but I can also appreciate that folks might want to see the creative process at work and perhaps have some influence on it. Let me know what you think.

Thank you for your support!

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Comments

Ver Greeneyes

The revised model looks better but still a bit awkward to me. I think the biggest thing that makes him look oddly feminine rather than just androgynous is his smooth, slender nose. I don't know if you can give him a stronger nose (with wider nostrils maybe) but that's what I would try tweaking. His lips also look a bit off to me.. or maybe it's the short distance between his mouth and nose. I dunno, hope this helps in some way.

JustJustin

Now, I'm into girls, don't get me wrong, but the shirtless photo looks awesome as hell, wouldn't want to piss him off. Sad that Alex has done just that... I really like your art style, but it's making me like Tal now, he doesn't look evil, he looks like he could be a protagonist. They look very similar to me, blowing them up the only thing I was able to tell was that the revised one had eyebrow changes, overall they're both good, so go with whichever ends up with more I guess, I'm going for option 3.

Danielle

I like the revised one it has a touch more masculinity without going overboard just enough to say "I'm a male" though he still looks more like a half-elf then a full elf but I like it i wouldn't change a thing imo.

Bane Uchiha

I thought the original one looked good, and i think the revised also looks good. I can't say one is better than the other, but i can say i'm looking forward to the next release.

Sync

It takes a bit of looking, and the difference is subtle...but once you know it's there... The revised male models have the eyes moved a little closer together. And to me, that makes all the difference. :)

nick

incredible progress! a job well done, proxxie. keep in mind that everything looks great so far, but if more input is required to further improve the model (according to player opinion), then i have 2.5 more subtle adjustments that could help improve masculinity without sacrificing too much femininity. 1) larger/wider jawline. it looks great as it is, but it is looks smaller than what is easily identifiable for an adult male elf. a smooth jawline is fine, and demonstrates the biased feminine appearances elves have, but the size of his jaw seems more childlike currently. a little bit wider and perhaps more defined would show that he is a powerful male. stunningly beautiful, but still masculine (for an elf). 2) slightly larger, more defined nose bridge. same reason as above: his nose looks more like a child's nose, and less like a man's. arguably a nose can come in many different shapes and sizes at any age, so i'm now so sure how important this could be, but messing around with it could make the nose present a more masculine appearance overall. the nose doesn't really need to change shape, but it looks a little too weak at the moment, imo. 2.5) perhaps mouth being wider (along with wider jaw) and lips very slightly thinned. p.s. these are exactly the kinds of posts that make development so fun. they are hard work, but alpha/beta testing things makes the final result so much more valuable. p.p.s. the larger hands really help to make the male model feel more masculine too.

tallytrix

That subtle revision has a huge impact, and I like it. Perhaps the lips could be a smidgen less full.

OhioOkie

I am more interested in the game than the actual pictures since he now have that educasted general serving him in such a submissive outfit.