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DB Reaction Ep. 133 (Patreon)

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THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF DBZ!!!

We're upset about the time skip. MK and I feel like we didn't get enough closure

Catch us LIVE on TWITCH TONIGHT - 9:30PM (Eastern Time)

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- Baris

Comments

Gabo

I like the timeskip…we see the fruits of Gokus training from not being able to keep up with Popo to see what he can do now

Josh

It is Sean

Eric

It is Sean guys, he’s trying to sound younger since Goku is around 18

Elekipito

Remember Saiyans go through a crazy growth spurt, he wasn’t a “kid”, he was a young teen already just with that small body lol.

The Only MVF

Apparently, Toriyama wanted to age up Goku because he wanted to do more physical battles with muscle tension, etc going forward so he wanted more body to work with for Goku after the King Piccolo battle.

Tacosareneat

I mean gohan went from 11 to adult. Time skips in dragon ball are pretty common. There was already like 2 time skips before this point in the story.

Rio Pascua

Really love this young tall Goku, he's still kid Goku after all lol

Christopher Macias

What an amazing episode one of my favorite on Dragon Ball!

Kyle Mccaskill

Baris saying this is the start of Dragonball Z is like me saying the Majin Buu saga is the start of Daima

Buff

I thought Yamcha saw King Picollo when he said he would destroy west city. Krillin was already dead (the goat) so that makes sense.

Alen X

How is this the start of DBZ? Its not, DBZ starts with Episode 1 of DBZ. Thats how they choose to do the anime. Dragonball ends with Episode 153, and DBZ starts with Episode 1. But to be honest I never liked how they did it, because in the manga there is no DBZ, the manga is just "Dragonball" and it starts at the start of Dragonball and ends at the end of DBZ. I really wish they would have done the anime this way also, just one Anime series "Dragonball" and no DBZ split from DB... it would have been much better.

Rio Pascua

It's highly agreed that Kami restored the moon and told Goku a BS reason that it can only come back once he loses his tail.

Douglas Murray

This arc is going to be the reason why it's a mistake for anyone who skips OG :3 The fight choreography is unmatched.

Kyle Mccaskill

You should do the Dragonball Z re- reaction with the Japanese soundtrack , so there’s more continuity with OG Dragonball, please do not watch Dragonball Z NickToons ( DBZ Kai)

Tacosareneat

Ooof I hope it's Yu Yu Hakusho next 🙏🏼 such a legendary dub

scott osborne

TEENAGE PICCOLO how can he be teenage when he's only 3 years old

whis101
>>156097003

Goku vs Piccolo is absolutely the best fight in the entire franchise (Outside of some movie fights).

Rio Pascua
>>156094846

It's essentially the start of "Z", the transition from kid Goku to tall Goku is the point as he was aged up bc Toriyama wanted to do more moves no longer possible with Goku's small stature. Z always started at an awkward point in the middle of Piccolo's character development. It only works if you count Gohan as the protagonist which he isn't, although his growth is a major part of it. It's the transition in Goku's life as his past is revealed and the focus on his Saiyan heritage.

Douglas Murray

Another reason to watch the entire series again (OG and beyond) in Japanese with English sub is that the original version retains the unfiltered dialogue, free from the localization and censorship needed to comply with Western or U.S. standards. In the English dub, many conversations were altered to make them more kid-friendly, such as the dialogue between Oolong and Master Roshi at the beginning, which was completely localized. In Japan, oddly enough, this wasn’t an issue. Since we’re all adults at this point, I think we all deserve to enjoy the unfiltered (dirty) dialogues without concern xD But it's not just all about the pervy stuff that gets localized. We also get to learn the Japanese name for all the techniques of our fighters, such as Tien's "Kikoho" for "Tri Beam". In the EN sub, "Kami" is directly translated as "God," and the characters refer to him as "Kami-sama." Krillin and the others keep asking Goku, "How was your training with God?" rather than "with Kami." This makes sense to see everyone is shocked when God is involved. However, in the U.S/Western localization, they deliberately avoid this translation (for faith-based reasons), leaving "Kami-sama" untranslated as if it were a name, which loses some of the original impact. In the sub, while meditating, Tien was wondering, "What sort of training did Goku endure under God", verbatim, but in the dub, it's just simply him wondering what kind of training Goku has endured while he was away. The U.S localization intentionally avoid the term "God".

Kyle Mccaskill
>>156094846

There is no such thing as Dragonball Z in the original manga, trust me bro Dragonball Z has not started, later episodes of OG Dragonball will prove you wrong

SSG2PRO
>>156097278

Dragon Ball Z Kai has an uncensored version. It aired on Toonami for sometime. It was only censored cause it aired on NickToons. I vote for the uncensored DBZ Kai.

Rio Pascua

Please rewatch DBZ in original JP for a fresh look since you already watched it in EN. The dialogues in English being altered gave up so many contextual answers that you will understand if you watch the original (Goku's character especially since the EN presented him as such a typical hero).

whis101

Krillin never saw Piccolo

Nick J

Enter: Sean Schimmel

Rio Pascua
>>156094846

I know there's no name transition in the manga but there's a clear transition in tone and genre. The genre especially dropped the gag partly and it has lot more focus on fights, which became more a serious battle shonen. That's why we graduated from kid Goku to tall Goku, other character's developments became concurrent to him and he's still the focus.

Allan Batista

This is my favorite episode of DB I'm hyped to watch ur reactions to it and trust me I feel the same nothing feels like kid goku

SSG2PRO

I love this episode. It feels like a return to norm especially dor people who started with Z. What's crazy is that essentially we have the entire Z warrior roster (minus Gohan who's not born yet) for the next saga.

Douglas Murray
>>156099072

One vote from me. Rewatching Z in the EN dub would be a huge missed opportunity. It’s only fair to experience it in JP for a fresh perspective and a chance to learn about the original cast and enjoy the show in its purest/unfiltered form, free from the typical superhero motif, and for us to join with the fans worldwide. Our training to become full-fledged, all-knowing DB fans isn’t complete until we’ve seen the whole thing in JP as well! 😄

Solebat

React to DBZ with the original soundtrack with english dub. That would be different and mesh with DB more.

Solebat
>>156096984

It can be restored because Goku wont go on a rampage by looking at it.

Chris Jordan

That's me voicing Goku not sean 🙄

Rio Pascua
>>156096984

Yeah, that's what I meant. Kami gave Goku a reason to get rid of his tail while not exactly telling him why (he only finds out he can transform and killed grandpa Gohan when he saw Ape Vegeta)

Douglas Murray

Just two days ago, on November 20th, we celebrated the 40th anniversary of the first manga chapter, originally published on November 20, 1984. Seeing Goku in his younger adult self feels like a perfect way to commemorate such an incredible milestone. You’re not alone in feeling shocked and a little disappointed to see Goku grow up so quickly. Suzy Lu and Animaechan recently expressed the same sentiment too. Talk about serendipity! Goku in black undershirt is sexy as hell. I wish they kept it in Z.

Antonio Alford
>>156105266

Yea, this was akira wanting to age goku up as to be able to draw more dynamic poses for him, and thus creating better choreographed fights

raz1337

We couldn't spoil it for you! I've been waiting so long for this episode to see you guys react to it. So excited now for the tournament and for you two to see it.

Douglas Murray
>>156096984

And in that conversation, Goku in the JP dub mentioned Kami, but in this version, he never even mentions Kami.

Littlepip

In the west, Dragonball was dubbed in English after Z!! Sean Schemmel was far more comfortable voicing Goku now and it really shows! He gave Goku a much younger voice and even copied a lot of Stephanie Nadolny's mannerisms that she had when voicing Kid Goku! Which is probably why you didn't recognize him at first! It really does feel like it's the Goku we all know and love just all grown up! And if you didn't know, that little hanging doll that Bulma was poking at is called a 照る照る坊主 Teru Teru Bouzu! It's traditionally something that a person hangs by the window during rainy weather as a way to bring back the sunshine! Kami definitely hid the truth from Goku and simply told him they could only wish back the moon if he also accepted the permanent loss of his tail. Knowing Goku, he probably didn't question it at all and decided he was strong enough to not rely on it anymore. As far as I remember, Saiyan tails can only grow back if they come off while they are still children, as Saiyan adults have never been shown to regrow their tail once removed. Which is probably why Saiyan warriors are so protective of their tails.

Colton Chandler

Yea… we never see how Yamcha got his scars.

Colton Chandler

Piccolo saving the boy and his mother is filler. Either way it shows that he’s different than his father.

Colton Chandler

Kami restored the moon and removed Goku’s tail so he wouldn’t go Ape.

Alex Ucles

I really hope you guys react to kai after dragon ball. It makes the most sense since the dialogue is on point and more closely related to dragon ball

The Hype

Sean Schemmel in the house!

The Hype

I'm with you that episodes 133 through 153 should have been the first 20 episodes of DBZ. It doesn't even remotely feel like Dragon Ball anymore. This is Z from now on. This was a great reaction to episode 1 of DBZ.

Cassian

Atleast rewatch DBZ in dub with Japanese Ost or the Kai Version. The Kai is little different with the dialogue, while the other one has the OST from original DB.

Adam Mengato

If you do the DBZ re-reaction with the amount of episodes it has at only 1 per week. It'll take you 5 and half years to finish....

whis101
>>156138371

Nah it definitely feels like Dragonball. Roshi vs Tien fight ,Mercenary Tao fights, King Piccolo fights and these tournament fights have very similar tones. Remember Dragonball isn't a monotone thing, it has many tones and aspects melded together. Both serious and comical.

jedan anagram

Don't feel bad about not cherishing the last moments with kid Goku, the studio really dropped the ball here IMO. They could have given us last scene with him looking at the sunset, smiling cheerfully in his way with Kami and Mr. Popo as he has just internalized some lesson about the nature of Ki, or something like that. Instead the last scene of him is just a random snippet from his training: we see him fumbling around blindfolded trying to catch Mr.Popo... Real sloppy directing if you ask me. Honestly all the filler episodes of this arc felt confused, boring and uninspired, with possible exception being young Master Roshi ones, but even those were all over the place execution wise...

Jonathan Cardona

Why hasn’t anyone mentioned that episodes 127-132 were filler? I remember in one of the episodes, Baris felt liked what they were watching was filler, which he was correct about.

Tim Lucas
>>156099460

I was just going to comment this neither him or yamcha saw piccolo yamcha was at Kame house during that arc due to his broken leg. And when they went for the final battle it was over by the time they got there

Jayson Goff

Here we go! The best arc in ALL of Dragon Ball is starting now!

Chaise

Seeing Goku grown up for the first time is definitely emotional

Jose

Goku is like 16 here

Elekipito
>>156106578

honestly its either 18 or 19 what u prefer due to Minus/DBSBroly, etc. lol and between guidebook, toriyama forgetting his dates, etc. lol 18 or 19 acceptable at this point😭😭😂😂

Antonio Alford
>>156106578

If u go by the dates in just the series, he starts off as 12, three years pass then he’s 15 when he defeats king piccolo

SG4

This is definitely Sean Schemmel’s voice.

Nathan deperio

That Sean Schimmel‘s voice he’s just doing a younger voice version of himself for the character

Thunder
>>156115197

Fortunately, the majority disagrees with you. Kai is a vastly improved version of the show that was badly needed. Baris and Madison would benefit tremendously from watching either in Japanese Z or Funimation Kai.

Thunder
>>156099072

They already watched Z dub. It’s in this Patreon if you want to watch them. My opinion is that they should expand their experience by watching a different version of the show.

Alex Ucles
>>156115197

Nolstagia goggles can really distort old school dbz fans perception. I was a kai hater too until I rewatched the og dubbing and noticed how bad the voice acting was compared to kai 😂

Douglas Murray
>>156099072

@Thunder Our voice is just too small and unpopular in this community. If they decide to rewatch everything in English dub with the same soundtrack, I will respect their decision. After all, the majority will win. If I were them, I'd also follow the majority's wish. Know your target audience.

Kevin O.

The song that plays when it pans up to reveal grown up Goku was placed perfectly. It gave me the goosebumps. There is a figure of Goku with the coat, head wrap and the red umbrella. It’s one of my favorites. Oh and it is Sean Schemmel voicing Goku here. I believe Funimation went back to do the dubbing of OGDB after DBZ was already at around the Buu Saga. It seems Sean tried to pitch his voice up a little to make it seem like a younger Goku. I think he also tried to copy the cadence of Stephany Nadolny’s delivery (Kid Goku’s VA) for this young adult Goku. I especially hear it in the line “Bulma! What happened? It looks like your lips are bleeding!” because I can totally imagine Kid Goku’s saying that. This episode legit made my eyes tear up lol so I’m with you guys on that.

Jeffrey F

Grown up goku is here!!

CountChopulla

I will say these two things: AoT and YYH are completely different. Go with AoT if you want something different than DBZ. If you want something similar do YYH. For the once per week watch is going to take close to 4yrs since there’s like 296 episodes so wasn’t sure if you’re only doing one episode or would there be like 3-5 for each week?

BLESSEDTON27

Goku was actually 15 in the last arc, making him 18 now. We never got an explanation on why he remained small like a child.

Thunder
>>156099072

They love the voice work in Naruto, which makes me think they would enjoy Kai. They just need to give it a chance to watch it. The opportunity is right there.

Sierra Oelslager

Piccolo didn’t like the music so he blew it up remember in the buu saga with all the cameras he can blow things up with his mind didn’t want to to alert people that he was there so that’s why he saved them mom and the kids

London Celt

That’s Sean as Goku alright, he does such a great job of making himself sound younger than we’re used to hearing him. It’s great to hear Sonny as Krillin again!

Alen X

Did I miss any announcements or why don't I see Monday's DB episode up?

Littlepip
>>156446902

Yes! There was an announcement, no uploads from the 25th to the 29th And also from December 23rd to January 3rd as well.

Dspade
>>156446902

Figures man… this is peak Dragonball and he’s not gonna upload for days 😫

The Hype
>>156148627

That would have been a great way to see Kid Goku just one last time. Seeing him walking into the sunset being himself just one more time. Oh man I wish that was the real ending to Kid Goku that we got.

The Hype

If you never watched Z before, and had the same experience as the original audience, then you would have been shook to see how much Goku has changed. It's a lot more shocking in English, since he has a completely different voice now with Sean making it a lot deeper than Stephanie did. In the Japanese version Goku is voiced by the same voice actor from beginning of OG Dragon Ball to Z, GT, Super, and Daima. Cool huh? The only difference in Japanese is that his voice is slightly deeper, so if you watch in Japanese you can tell by hearing him that it's an older Goku.

CYBRLFT

Woohooo!!! After binging over 40 episodes I’m all caught up on this reaction channel too hahaha. I’ll try to catch your stream tonight. Been so busy it’s been hard to do anything but work 😮‍💨

Kevin Hann

Yep, thats definitely Sean as Goku, just he makes himself sound a bit younger here.