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Guys please excuses us for the brief technical difficulties in this episode! Technology crapped out on us a bit with this one LOL

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sainttrunks1982

Why would you skip them? Just put them on the 2nd tier (as he said he did). You guys [those patreon's] who choose not to want* to watch it could just skip it. Common sense

Shaun

There is nothing stopping Vegeta from entering the time chamber. Piccolo went in with Buu when Goten and Trunks were in there.

Peter Fowler

I liked this episode, went by so fast

Jake_Ezekiel

Oh my goodness it's so close!! It's almost here!!

Darren Metts

Trunks isn’t trying to save face for his father it was a mirage a false perception trunks was never stronger than vegeta he only thought he was because vegeta was smart enough not to use more power due to knowing he’d lose speed and also not gain any speed

Darren Metts

12:18 that theme song is so beautiful whenever I hear it I get a happy sad feeling it’s so melancholy and just makes me want to cry cuz it brings back so many memories it’s so soothing

Odin Von Oslo

No, he sure was stronger. In terms of, like cell said, pure battle power! Super vegeta is the ascended saiyan which IS the powerfull but bulky, slow version! So he did it too either way. then he learned and lost, then cell and trunks said the same thing.

Odin Von Oslo

also trunks was way stronger too when he came and sliced frieza and king cold in half too, even stronger then goku too. thenthey surpassed him, then trunks surpassed them again when trained for the cell games

Odin Von Oslo

oh and they said for eternitys only 2 persons, later its just revealed and / or changed that more

Lawrence Telfer

Skip that general Tao episode and all that. Madison doesn’t need that filler 😂

Jon

general tao is as good a villain as frieza and cell imo the way they presented him was terrifying the scene where he dents blues head as a child stayed with me

London Celt

“How did all these squares make a circle?! It doesn’t bother me. It bothers me. It bothers me a lot!”

Ian Caudillo

incorrect Super Vegeta and what Trunks did are not the same. Super Vegeta is stage 2 Super Saiyan and when Trunks for Cell he was stage 3. Goku pointed this out in last episode his first power up was stage 2 and when he said a step further that was 3.

Jaehwa Jeong

he's talking during buu Saga. But yes, the chamber broke its own rule somehow. Piccolo really did enter the chamber while Trunks and Goten were training in there because Super Buu lost patience and wanted to fight the strong guys.

Darren Metts

No he literally wasn’t stronger vegeta literally could have done the same thing but chose not too because it’s be pointless the extra strength wouldn’t give him the necessary speed so he’d just be wasting energy that is the whole point of showing goku explain it and then having cell say that even vegeta figured it out lol he wasn’t stronger

Darren Metts

Yea trunks was stronger but after the hyperbolic time chamber he wasn’t stronger or weaker we have no proof all we know is that he wasn’t stronger because he said vegeta figured it out

Darren Metts

False I never said that stage 2 was stronger re read my comment it was clearly implied that vegeta could go stage 3 but chose not too because he knew of the defect stop trying to right and just be right

Enrique Pena

Let’s go!! Can’t wait for the cell games 🔥😎👍

Jyrone Reyes

Doctor brief comment on Master roshi story saying "it would make a good movie"

BarisTeeAnime

We won't be skipping any filler from here on till the end since Tier 2 Patrons (and above) are literally supporting us to watch those!

Ogre328

Totally cool with you skipping "Losers Fight First"

Kautuk Nag

I'm not sure about 16 but aren't 17 and 18 supposed to be half human and half machine? 17, 18 were once human, they are technically cyborgs not androids.

Viper

Yep, they even had real names that were released in the Daizenshuu's. They were Lapis and Lazuli when they were human. That was one of those things I wish had a flash back in an episode....I feel like it's important enough for their character development, but I also assumed it was something Toriyama came up with well after the fact.