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DBZ Episode 189 (Patreon)

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2022-11-02 18:30:46
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Adrian Amendola

This is Super Perfect Cell. Hes a SSJ2 Level

Antwan Mcclung
>>106025083

gohan was still stronger even when he lost his arm, he just lost motivation and losing faith until he heard goku.

Izzy P

"Ahhh... Shit. Thats my B." 😂 Love these reactions, I had to come back.

John Ware

let’s gooooooooooo. Hype episode!

Sammy

Yooo, just in time for lunch! lets goo

DBZ Petty Fanatic

And we finally have the first ultimate dad moment for Vegeta 😎

Zarikel

Let's go!

Benztruck

Can't wait for the next two

pure vapor

I love that gohan saved vegeta. Vegeta saved him atleast 2 times on namek and gohan wanted to jump in twice when frieza was torturing vegeta but piccolo stopped him.

Enrique Pena

Yes let’s freaking go!! Vegeta epic shining moments!! 😎🦾🔥🔥🔥 Can’t wait for more of Vegeta epicness moments saving Gohan!! 👍😇

Ryan Williams

Wait until she gets to see Vegeta at the Buu saga

Travis Giles

MY BABY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marshall carter

This version of cell is stronger. He’s super perfect cell.

K-RayTV

Yea like Marshall stated this version is way stronger than his previous perfect power this is Super Perfect Cell.

Stephen Sturges

I think cell now woujd rival ssj2 Gohan. Cell has that electric aura meaning he could be in his own ssj2 form

stiven gonza

Lets goo!!! Another W reaction and keep it up fam. I can’t wait for the final battle of gohan and cell..

CountChopulla

To Madison’s question- Goku needs a powerful(ish) Ki to lock onto in order to instant transmission so that’s why he chose King Kai and not a random planet. I’m sure most people already knew this but in case they didn’t!

Jorge

The Ss2 aura is so overpowered

pure vapor

Gohan looses his arm in the future trunks timeline trying to protect trunks. Current timeline gohan looses his arm trying to save trunks father.

Gil Petro

The name of cell’s new form is called a super perfect cell. Since his self-destruction, he came back way stronger and is at his next level of power. Hence the bio-electricity around his body.

Ellis Gandy

Great reaction guys! Actually, Cell came back with Super Saiyan 2 power, the English version doesn't make it clear enough. He did get the Zenkai boost but also "tasted" Gohan's power like he did Goku, that's why he has the electric sparks like Gohan, that is a super saiyan 2 trait. It's why he says "im stronger than ive ever been". So yeah, its scary because he's the same level as Gohan now.

CountChopulla

As already state, he’s Super Perfect Cell now and the S-cells gave him the Zenkai boost. Basically SSJ2 now. I’ve always wondered why Vegeta didn’t ascend there.

Geri91

Cell had the SSJ2 aura. Zenkai Boost made Cell perfect, SSJ2 and gave him Instant transmission

Hitrule

Just so you both know what each form is (Baris and Madison): Super Saiyan 1 (Grade 1, the standard Super Saiyan) Super Saiyan Grade 2 (Ascended Super Saiyan is a fan name, the form Vegeta and Trunks uses.) Super Saiyan Grade 3 (the bulky strong but slow form, Ultra Super Saiyan is the fan name) Super Saiyan Grade 4 (The form Goku and Gohan uses against Cell, Mastered Super Saiyan or Full Power Super Saiyan are the alternate names) Super Saiyan 2 (It was labeled as Grade 5 when it first came out but then officially changed into Super Saiyan 2, its a 2x multiplier over Grade 4 but Gohan also achieved a rage boost unlocking his dormant power which is why he was so powerful)

Majin

Madison, you think Cell is OP? Wait till you get to the next villain, lmao.

Odin Von Oslo
>>94830143

nope, 18 and 17 made him perfect. his cells memorized the perfect form, so thats how he went back to the Z fighters in perfect form without 18 absorbed. also, his cells saved the instant transmission too because goku used it with him

Nirojan Kalaimannan

Gohan's way stronger. He was just traumatized from Goku dying Trunks almost dying, losing one arm from protecting Vegeta. Also Cell was fully restored and stronger than he was before,

Odin Von Oslo
>>94830265

nope, ultra saiyan is only trunks rage form called. No grades whatsoever, also ascended saiyan is the bulky form. a ascended ssj1 is just ssj2

Travis Giles

Also cell was as strong as a ssj2. Note the lightning in the aura.

Odin Von Oslo
>>94829736

stronger because of his cells and the DNA, still the same form tho just a bit more power

Hitrule
>>94830265

And this is what happens when you just watch the English dub and dont look at any of the official sources that say otherwise because you're wrong Odin.

Daniel Ammann

You should watch the next Episode from Team4Star after that :D

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94829334

Ehh. Not necessarily.. but since Cell has Saiyan DNA in him... He could... I was about to say more, but it would possibly be a sort of Spoiler Territory, so I won't say, since I've seen all of Z/Super, and GT.

CountChopulla
>>94830265

No, he’s right on this. Vegeta did ascend, so did trunks beyond that and Gohan is the next “Level”. They’re more like steps

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94829596

Yee. Agreed. I don't remember if Goku said he needed to have a Ki to lock onto, but I guess you can figure it out on your own after some time of watching Goku perform it enough times

Hitrule
>>94830265

Speaking from a Level sense then yes he's correct. My main point was that the official names are as they're labeled(Grade 1, Grade 2, Grade 3, Grade 4, SSJ2). You want proof I'll be glad to show you both 👍🏾.

CountChopulla
>>94829596

Yeah he does mention it when introducing it and later in the show its referenced again

Andeh X

At this point, Cell is on par with SSJ2. His zenkai boost gave him so much more power. Notice he has the same lightning around him as Gohan?

nynar

Would love to see Madison's reaction to the new Boo Saga intro (after watching the first episode)

SuPREME ios

dude i cantt wait for the next episode

Penificent

Trunks is actually dead here, but in this dub they made it vague

Jon
>>94830602

you are WRONG if he was way stronger that blast would not have disarmed him

NOMMY

Yamcha says that Trunks is dead, that's the real script. And Gohan tells Cell that he's happy that he came back just so he can avenge his father. I get the concept behind localization, but some dub changes are really unnecessary and not even as cool lol

Mohamed Hassan
>>94830602

He is way stronger. Watch a geekdom 101 vid he goes into detail explaining why cell seemed stronger than gohan but really wasn’t.

Emil Ganev

Cell got a zenkai boost , he has the lighting aura , he is almost a ssj2 level himself

NOMMY

Cell got a zenkai like Baris said, but Gohan still demolishes him in a straight up fight if he didn't get hurt

DaRealVJ90
>>94830719

I thought that was true too but then when you think about it I think gohan was still stronger just a bit. He ddnt attack Gohan right when he came back he was knda hesitant

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94830265

Hitrule has the knowledge down pat. Yes those are the correct terms of forms they use and have achieved.

Jyrone Reyes
>>94837981

Exactly! Cell is still no where close to gohan’s power. Even with Gohan hurt cell still can’t do anything to win.

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94830602

Yes Mohamed. If Gohan wasn't way stronger like Jon said, Gohan would've suffered much more damage than just loosing the ability to use his arm. I think it would put Gohan out of commission at the most, and actually tearing that same arm off at the very least.

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94830719

Not as strong as Gohan, but Cell definitely closed the gap of power between them.

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94837162

Jorge, it may appear to be the ssj2 aura, but Cell isn't as strong as Gohan at this stage. Yes, Cell DID get stronger, but he isn't strong enough to take out Gohan. That blast Gohan took to defend Vegeta was meant to kill Vegeta, and instead, it took out Gohan's arm, which tells me just how much more powerful and sturdy Gohan is than Cell.

Jake_Ezekiel
>>94837981

Yee I can agree with that. If Gohan didn't loose his arm, this upcoming fight would be easier, cuz he'd have both arms.

QuirklessEsty

The line "You thought you'd never see me again, didn't you? Well too bad. I'm alive." has been ruined for me because of Twitter

RedSnorlax
>>94837981

Gohan demolishes him regardless in the manga its super clear it was all gohan lol

shazec

It's such a shame that the creator didn't go with Vegeta SSJ2 at this moment, I feel that would've been such a great ending.

Xenoblade98

It was the Saiyan genes in Cell that he was able to get stronger. Cell reappearing with the SSJ2 aura technically means that he "ascended" like Gohan.

Alex Ucles

Cell actually came back alot stronger. And also the dub messed up here. In kai yamcha comfirms that trunks is dead.

heart-beaten_44

Baris this version of cell (super perfect cell) is almost equal too ssj2 form, you can see it from his aura is similar to Gohan's form

Jaehwa Jeong

Vegeta really gave it more than 100% here! I don't think many people mention this small detail. Despite the fact that Cell, even though he was capable of SSJ2 strength, still had to brace himself for Vegeta's blast. He learned not to underestimate Vegeta after getting hit with his Final Flash. You can clearly see he had to take the attack very seriously when Vegeta put all the emotion and rage into every single blast!

Jaehwa Jeong

I also got so many chills from Madison's reaction to Vegeta! If she loved this, then she's going to LOVE Vegeta's sacrifice against Buu AND his respect for Goku when he admits he's better than him! If that's not character development, I don't know what is.

Damir Zeric

Yeah this is referred to as super perfect cell and he has the lightning. I wouldn't say SSJ2 level but definitely closed the gap

heart-beaten_44
>>94844063

Not in half of his power,that was what Gohan believe but it's not the case,you can gather all of your energy in one arm(remember the ki blast battle between full power jiren and goku on super,jiren won with one arm)

heart-beaten_44
>>94837162

Yeh but the blasts and explosions cell used on his perfect form against gohan did absolutely nothing to gohan and it was stronger than that blast mate

erodas

Cell is equaly as strong as Gohan when he comes back. Even if he didint mess up his arm and they fought Gohan would still probably lose due to Cell's regeneration powers.

Kyle A

Lmao, "somehow, Cell survived..."

Peter Fowler

Why did Gohan get so weak in an episode lol He was far stronger before, bit dumb

Peter Fowler
>>94847146

How is he equally as strong he should be badly hurt or everytime he gets hurt he should get stronger then

Psi47

Yeah Baris, Cell is a LOT stronger now. Perfect Cell before couldn't even damage Gohan. Yet now with that one blast, he knocked Gohan down to half his full power (which is confirmed).

Camilo

That smirk when madison said that they gotta burn every cell in order to kill him .... the same smirk i gave 😏😂 love the stressed out reaction of hers while we're all just smiling and know what's gonna happen 💪🏻🔥

Camilo
>>94846215

I can only imagine the anticipation of her when she sees that

Mark
>>94829334

That's what it is. It's his super Saiyan 2. Just like his cells learned Goku's instant transmission from Goku, they also learned the super Saiyan 2 transformation from fighting Gohan, plus the zenkai boost . Which explains the electricity in his aura, the key characteristic of super Saiyan 2. Cells always had the super Saiyan transformation, but for him it's permanent. He just doesn't have hair to turn gold.

Tyrone Ross

Get off the girl Krillin! 😆

Jaehwa Jeong
>>94846215

I truly cannot wait! Watching this again with a blind reactor is going to hit the feels again!

Caspar

KRILLIN GET OFF THE GIRL lmao

Caboose

The reason Goku instant transmissioned to King Kai, and not somewhere remote like Mars, is because the user has to sense someone's energy to teleport.

seb gibson

madison is right! cell came back stronger than ever, taking on some of goku's super saiyan energy in the blast. he has the ssj2 aura/electricity around him. even a subtle detail as gohan and cell are talking back and forth initially, cell's electricity seems a lot more defined than gohans. perhaps showing that gohan at this stage had become slightly fatigued. if they'd gone hand to hand combat i think it would've been pretty close but who knows

Golden Mama

Madison would love DBZA Krillin! Also I’m excited for the start of Vegeta’s redemption!

patrick mccord

Seb is right they even have 2 perfect forms for cell in alot of games one being the ss2 with electricity i seen this show to much please watch dragonball super after this

max redfoot

So barris I got you on the explanation. When cell exploded he received a zenkai boost because he has saiyan cells. The closer a saiyan is to death the stronger he gets, and you can’t get any closer than he did. He also possesses super saiyan 2 aura showing he has also upgraded at least close to Gohans level. Plus Gohan has been fighting and cell is fresh.

Manuel Martinez

@sebgibson - cell wasn’t at ss2 level at that point. The boost from “Saiyans almost dying” isn’t as strong as ss1 max to regular ss2. Goku was ss1 max, which was about 75% of cells power. Which makes cells full power before self destruction 25% stronger than ss1 max, ss2 max is about 100x stronger than s1. The difference being about 75%. The zenkai boost that cell got was no where near that. Hence why when gohan egged cell on, he didn’t attack or fall for the bait.

Luke8694

I remember the fear of seeing Gohan hurt like that with Cell in his Super Perfect form 😨 Vegeta raged over everything; he let Cell become perfect only for Trunks to pay the price and he never showed his son any love or respect. Then Goku one ups him again by sacrificing himself for his son. Since preparing for the Androids, Goku did his absolute best to train Gohan and spend time with him. I’m sure a part of him felt guilty missing out on so much time with his son before. Meanwhile, Vegeta was obsessed with becoming a Super Saiyan and didn’t care about Trunks; his biggest concern after losing to 18 was to ascend to the next level. Sure he learned about their relationship late in the saga, but he barely acknowledged Trunks going forward.

Jason
>>94859211

You are thinking too much into it, Gohan súper sayain 2 still holds the advantage regardless, however it is much closer than before. Here he is known as “super perfect cell”, before he was just “perfect cell” hinting he had a Zenkai boost. I do think Gohan is just abit stronger than Cell now but before it was a huge difference

Brandon
>>94829902

^ This is accurate. Gohan is still stronger overall but Cell’s power is still basically equivalent to the SSJ2 level here

Robbie Medica
>>94829334

Cell is definitely ssj2 level. But Gohan unlocked a rage boost on top of ssj2. If it was Cell vs ssj2 Goku, they'd probably be pretty even, but Gohan was able to overpower him with one arm.

Robbie Medica
>>94830602

He didn't have time to use his ki to block Cell's attack properly, he was just rushing in to save Vegeta. The characters can get damaged by weak things if they aren't prepared.

Robbie Medica
>>94847146

Gohan literally didn't lose, even with one arm. And he took a shot that he didn't prepare for or use ki to block because he was trying to save Vegeta.

Saiyan

Gohan is still MUCH stronger than cell, the blast takes away half his Ki, and the dude still loses to 1 arm gohan. Gohan dares him to attack and he doesn't for a reason...cell doesn't want any of that and he knows it. The power gap between the two before was probably one of the biggest power differences between two characters in the show, even with a zenkai boost he's not close enough when you get demolished by 2 punches. Again, with HALF of his power gone and only ONE arm he manages to kill him (vegeta just distracted). I love the dub and music but this is the one area where the show really messes up. That was a solid explanation btw baris! And lmao at madison "get off the girl krillin" calling his simp ass out

Ellis Gandy
>>94829902

Right, they drove the point home by the very first thing we see when Cell returns (besides the strong wind) is bio-electrical sparks emanating from a small storm. Trunks even says "what is that?", as if its a different person he's sensing

Asian Sticker
>>94861352

Yea although it was never stated he went ssj2. Geekdom101 made a video explaining that gohan was still far above cell

Saiyan
>>94861376

exactly, he straight up dares one of them to fight and when gohan asks him to bring it on cell hesitated like a mofo after being egged on multiple times. He knows he's not strong enough

Ellis Gandy
>>94829998

I never understood this back in the day either, but Super-Saiyan full Powered is a prerequisite, (looked it up) Goku and Gohan made the super Saiyan form their base form...basically 😉. Eliminating all the stress and fatigue, it became like their normal black haired form in comfortability, so super saiyan 2 is like going super saiyan again, just from super saiyan 1 base this time. Vegeta and Trunks never accomplished full-powered

Asian Sticker
>>94849299

That is simply not true. Cell charged that kamehameha with the intention of killing gohan on the spot. Yet gohan was still able to push it back and cell had to keep trying harder even tho he “lost half his power” which isn’t true. The reason gohan didn’t end the beam struggle quick was because he was beat mentally and was scared that he could destroy the earth if he went all out. It just doesn’t make any sense that he lost half his power. He wouldn’t even been able to hold off the kamehameha if he did

Asian Sticker

Just to clarify things. Even with the damaged arm gohan was still far above cell

NS
>>94859211

Yes, the electricity doesn't make him a SSJ2, but the electric aura is a key characteristic of the SSJ2 design. It's intentional in the depiction of those who reach SSJ2. So the fact that Cell had this when he came back is supposed to imply that he has had a power boost to bring him closer to that level. He still wasn't stronger than Gohan, but he was stronger than before he died. That's what we're supposed to take away from his return

NS
>>94846215

"Perhaps it is my anger that has made me blind to the truth for so long. I see it now, this day has made it all too clear. You're better than me Kakarot. You are the best" I can't wait for the Buu Saga lol

NS

People keep saying Gohan lost half his power. Where did this come from? Am I missing something? If I did then please let me know. This doesn't make sense to me because SSJ2 is reported to be about twice as strong as SSJ. THIS is a fact. The SSJ stages act as multipliers: -SSJ is 50x the user's base level (this one may be up for debate based on sources) -SSJ2 is 2x SSJ -SSJ3 is 4x SSJ2 If Gohan was at half strength in his SSJ2 form, then he would be roughly as strong as his SSJ state. Am I in the wrong? I understand that you can't boil everything down to numbers, but just following logic this makes general sense Gohan tanking that ki blast from Cell certainly weakened him a bunch, but it was not HALF his power

NS
>>94830265

Hitrule is 100% correct. There's so much more information like this that's not explicitly stated or shown in the anime. If all you've done is watched the anime and haven't looked into the other official sources, then there is a LOT you don't know about DBZ

NS
>>94830602

Jon, that makes absolutely no sense. Gohan TANKED that hit. No defenses. Just TOOK IT. You think anyone can take a hit like that without bracing for it and not receive any damage?

NS
>>94861352

Gohan was absolutely still above Cell. Even during the final Kamehameha struggle, we see that Gohan is still holding back because he's afraid of damaging the Earth. Goku even tells him to stop holding back. Vegeta distracts Cell and Gohan FINALLY gives it 100% and he utterly destroys Cell

Tony
>>94868109

Stronger? Yes. But i wouldnt say far above lol.

Brenden Clarke

The emotion of all the characters in the last 5 episodes really made history and has remained in my heart, the beautiful writen dialogue and fantastic voices really show that if you push yourself and work hard in life to protect your family you will achieve greatness

Saiyan
>>94869715

it is stated in the manga, the truth is gohan's power was FAR more, (hence how the battle ends) but its how perceived it to begin with. The reason it doesn't add up for your numbers is Gohan isn't x2 his SSJ1 form as SSJ2, its plot armor (sometimes annoying device in the buu saga for me) but his hidden power is supposed to really be bottomless which factors into his actual boost. When goku/vegeta are max SSJ2 form, to where goku can do SSJ3 he is stated as being stronger at that time....8 years after this

Rafael Diaz

Bro I think u spoiled way to much this episode try not to just let her figure it out like when u said Vageta still ss1 or when u said he's turned good. Just let her figure it out or if she ask wait till episode is over. Then after u said Gohan is stronger than cell letting her know he will take care of business instead of keeping her on edge.But overall u still do way better than other guys with there girlfriends they spoil a lot and are annoying. U are not annoying like them and u guys are doing a great job! it's just a suggestion much love

BarisTeeAnime
>>94872727

Madison saw Vegeta change throughout the episodes and realized how much he cared for Trunks in this episode. She figured that out on her own. All I did is tell her that Vegeta is not SSj2 when he charged at cell. She asked and I blurted it! Anyway, it was very clear at the end of the episode that he wasn't because he wasn't able to do anything to cell!

Brodie Vickers

Cell: For Vegeta? really? Tien: Yeah! really?? Piccolo: REALLY!!!???

Majin Gamamas

Hello there. I know that sometimes the animation is not that perfect, (her saying about Vegeta's hair being so spikey), throughout the series there are many little mistakes or animation differences between episodes and forms. (Even Toriyama himself forgets things) But overall the main thing that shows SSJ-2 is the lightning in the aura . That also includes Cell's comeback-powerup, he is at SSJ-2 lvl now.

GreenRanger33

I don’t know if Gohan would have easily beat the returning cell. Cell got a major power boost due to his saiyan dna and how they get stronger when they come back from the brink of death. It took interference from the other Z fighter to distract cell for Gohan to destroy him. Of course the argument could be made that he was holding back from the beginning, and of course the protag is gonna win. But idk if the fight would have been as easy as it was before the self destruct.

GreenRanger33
>>94869715

Gohan says it himself in the next episode when he’s talking to Goku, “and my power has been cut in half”

Scott

I think I saw Madison's heart skip a beat when vegeta said "trunks my son"

Esteban Ramirez

Gohan was definitely still stronger, but it wouldn't have been an easy fight since Cell had the SSJ2 aura as well just a lower grade. The Vegeta save definitely hurt Gohan a lot.

Luke Price

Super Perfect Cell is probably around the level of SS2 Gohan in the Buu Saga at the World Tournament.

Chris R

Just realizing how even more symbolic it could have been if Gohan lost his arm completely in that attack from Cell like his future self did. I’m guessing it was the intention but maybe to graphic for TV at the time.

Ujbuoyk

Would've been cool if Vegeta as he was looking at his son dying went ssj2 and killed cell instead of Gohan :D