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SECRET SONG Reaction: Lisbon (Night 1) (Patreon)

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2024-05-25 03:57:19
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FINALLYYYYYYYY GOT THAT ONE SONG FROM FEARLESS!!!

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Jeebs

Saw Coldplay in San Diego last September. You'll love the show! I cried.

Grace

Never this early 😭😭 so lucky. Love you guys

Shannon

Sending love from CANADA 🇨🇦🤍

Gabrielle Lyons

When Twily played I was like FINALLLLYYYY🤣

Jana Fuller

I’ve been waiting!!! ❤️

Katie LaFave

i'm glad she finally did TWILY, but i feel like with songs she hasn't done yet, she should do them in full not in a mashup

Natalee Bieber

yayy something to watch while i eat dinner

Gordon Werner

Was eagerly awaiting your reactions ツ

Katie LaFave

she really said the fandom doesn't fathom fresh out the slammer & they need to and i say yessss cuz it's so superior!!

Sebastian

I needed you before sleep! 💚 did you guys saw the floor bracelets Debut Themed? 🦋 Love you to the moon and to Saturn!

Katie LaFave

the way she went UP during the 2nd verse of fresh out the slammer!!! superior!!!

Sarah

I thought of you guys when she FINALLY played TWILY! Looking forward to seeing your reaction :D

jasmin louise

i’m so sad she sung the way i loved you. but im so happy she did at the same time 😭😭😭

Ash

Fresh out the slammer is my #2 on TTPD, so I’m stoked she sang the entire song and then just tacked on a mashup. SUPERIOR

Richelle Watson

Bonnie is looking gorgeous with her head band this morning🤍🤍

kienan

I love when she loves Fearless

Jenny M

Yes secret song reaction time, Thank You Ladies.

Susan

🫶 yeees another early morning with you two😀

Katie LaFave

i cannot believe i never realized how similar fresh out the slammer & high infidelity are! in both songs she talks about how she's not in a great relationship. in high infidelity she talks about how horrible frightful adam is. then she meets joe and he totally changes her world. in fresh out the slammer she discusses how she's feeling in her relationship with joe. then once she's out of that, she reaches out to matty healy!

kienan

annsjdjxjsjdj when she switched to The Way I Loved You… none of us could’ve been prepared!!!

Katie LaFave

the show started at like 8:20pm. remember that Lisbon is an hour BEHIND stockholm. so the show was either suppose to start at 8pm like paris or 7:30pm like sweden

Lauren

THE SCREAM I SCRUMPT WHEN TWILY STARTED PLAYING

Joe Weaver

Not sure if you've heard Maroon & YOYOK have been replaced by The Alchemy & Clara Bow as the songs that play after the show is over. Interesting!

Mitch hansen

i SCREAMED when we finally got the way i loved you and knew you guys would be gagged thank you taylor but also im gonna need to hear the whole thing.....but to add other side of the door out the end??? deeply iconic

Katie LaFave

she's been apart from travis for one day! girl really misses her man

Maddie 💅🏻

Yep. I’ve already seem some posts about Matty/ high infidelity

Mitch hansen

also deeply concerned about where she was on april 29th after she mashed with fresh out the slammer

MsParis729

Omg so early!!! Love you girls so much! ❤❤❤❤

Meg A.

Is Bonny’s hair red? Looks iconic!

Meg A.

Haha scrumpt is my new favorite word

Katie LaFave

i loveeee come back be here soooo much

kienan

and mashing up High Infidelity… oh this was an Em night for suuuuure!!!

Taylor

The way I loved you into TOSOTD outro is the most offensive thing she’s ever done to me personally

Gordon Werner

Was her “You Can Do It…” outfit new? Or was it just a factor of poor streams?

Katie LaFave

fresh out the slammer on the piano is sooooo superior!!!

Jenn Hamel

I really really feel that for the first time - TTPD as an album isn’t really MEANT to be relatable. She said in Australia that she wrote it because she NEEDED to to get through what SHE WENT THROUGH. So that’s helped me connect very fast - thinking about how it helped her 🤍

Kayy

I was at work during surprise song o’clock watching all of the discord messages come through trying not to scream at everything I was missing😭

maya zutra

Ok but what about HOAX 💔

Jenna Bolmgren

I hadn’t thought of Taylor saying in Guilty as Sin? that she’s never ever touched his skin, but maybe not [yet] since she started dating Joe. I mean she talked about longing for their trysts, makes me think some touching had previously occured. 😏 I think the timing could be anything at this point, especially bc we don’t know which April 29 she’s referencing… interesting to say the least!

Cole Jones

I’m still convinced Taylor and Joe were in a non-monogamous/open relationship. It would just make so much sense. With all the overlapping relationships on both Taylor and Joe’s part. It’s also likely that they broke up more than a few times or went on a “break” for a period of time.

Shawn carni

Bonnie I desperately need details on your headband 😍

angel (plnkblue)

I'd always thought that she might've been avoiding playing TWILY because lyrically, it is extremely similar to the stuff she was going through last year. And the songs she paired with it are honestly sooooo illegal and really amplify a narrative of the desire to leave something stable and go looking for something more. Also tbh I never took High Infidelity as actually being about a physical act of cheating. I always took it as a song expressing anger over a partner who THINKS she cheated because she dared to look happier with another man than with him. "High Infidelity" as a play on the term "high treason," in which she's being charged for the crime of cheating when she didn't actually commit it. Which is also why Guilty as Sin takes on that idea of "guilt;" she never actually physically did anything, so how could she be guilty? But the desire to get away and the neglect of the current relationship was still a real thing. This is something that was already explored in Exile, the first song we ever knew Taylor and Joe wrote together ("I can see you standing honey, with his arms around your body, laughing but the joke's not funny at all"). It's got a bit of a Blank Space/IDSB undertone to it to me, where for a moment, she pretends to be the cheater that he thinks she is. Which gets echoed in Florida!!!: "They said I was a cheat, I guess it must be true." High Infidelity also, like Bonny says, echoes a lot of the sentiments that would go on to be explored in Bejeweled. And the Grammy ceremony in 2021 would literally be her first big moment back in the public spotlight, surrounded by peers and celebrated for her success, since around the start of her relationship with Joe. It could have been the first moment where she really realized hey wait, I actually enjoy this a lot, and I feel like I belong in this space, which is something I hadn't felt for so long. And now that I'm here again, and it feels good, I don't want to be made to feel like I should be diminishing that. Ultimately I don't care, and it doesn't matter. But if you want to be insane about it, High Infidelity being inspired by conflict/miscommunication with Joe is not an invalid take.

Olivia L

QUEEENS PLEASE REACT TO BUT DADDY. I LOVE HIM ACOUSTIC. I cry

S.C

One of the reasons I really enjoy your reactions and fathoming of Taylor and her songs is that you two are actually very mature when it comes to self-awareness. That really elevates the interpretation of songs. I think that it sometimes also help us to revisit ourselves. You are two SUPERIOR persons! So glad that I found you two in this wild world! Love you!

Jenna Bolmgren

Besties, it would be cool if you did an estimate of the order in which she wrote each song on the album (with the context that we can speculate). I tried doing it just for fun and thought it could be an interesting discussion. Love you both and your offensive fathomings!

Katie LaFave

no one will ever be able to convince me that Maroon is not about Jake

noah

i realllyyyy don’t think high infidelity is about matty. she specifically said “april 29th” which was the day she went to gigis party — love u guys

Momo

Your partners are really coming in clutch lately with the brekky! 🫶🏻

Belle Murray

Omg 😭 I loved your chat at the end of this video. Sometimes when I’m all caught up on my Bonny & Emily videos, I watch other reactors and Taylor channels to fill the void, and while I enjoy their content, I never quite connect to them or enjoy them nearly as much. I couldn’t really identify why, but you two summed it up… you give us enough thoughts into Taylor’s life which we obviously think about, but also dive into lyrics in a personal way that makes the breakdown so much more relatable and less invasive to Taylor. I just love it, and please keep it up!! 🥹

sydney

Love u guysssss and the fresh out the slammer love! Also I’ve said this before but the twin bang era is simply superior and im obsessed! Gorgeous girlies

Katie LaFave

as for me personally, i've never been in a relationship so i do really think about taylor's life with each song. like honestly there's really only like 4 songs in taylor's whole discography that i relate to

THE iCEMAN SHOW

Really fascinating and important dialogue today ladies! Love it! Also, I just watched the TIME interview and it made me cry how happy I am for you. I do think Taylor’s songs are about far more than a singular male muse.

kenna🪽

i screamed and jumped when i finally heard the beginning of the way i loved you😭 definitely one of my top 3 taylor songs of all time!!

Jason H

I think the mashup is how history repeated itself. Joe sparked something in her while her relationship with Calvin was falling apart. And then Matty sliding back into her life did the same thing years later when things with Joe were dying. Basically Joe became another Calvin.

Odet M 🩷🩷

Or maybe they broke up kind of or temporarly and she went to Matty and was Like ^”thinking “ about Matty lie guilty as sin idk

WeatherJoy

She absolutely knew what she was doing with the scarlet maroon reference. I just don’t think we can explain that away. And she’s had to have absolutely clocked no one really knew who maroon was about.

Dswiftie

So the Kelce bros. r taking their podcast on the road. The international road. I wonder if that has anything to do with our girl missing her man.

superscarf

Did y’all hear that instead of YOYOK when the show is over and fans are leaving, they played The Alchemy instead??

WeatherJoy

I agree though we don’t at all have to comprehend her biographical details to vibe with a song.

caitlin

bonnie in her daphne blake era

Katie LaFave

awww bonny calling her bf baby!!! so glad you both are happy

WeatherJoy

You guys are so respectful with the line you walk with conjecture on her personal life.

E ✨🩷

fresh out the slammer x high infidelity is ILLEGALLL

Katie LaFave

usually right after the concert ends, YOYOK comes on, but she switched it with the alchemy!!!!

maya zutra

My whole processing of the album at my first listens were from omg this is not about Joe to omg this about Matty to omg I don’t want to think about Matty to just thinking about me when listening to the songs. I kinda love it for me so thank you Matty you really made me focus on myself 🥰

WeatherJoy

I’ve shared this before but since I’m a new Swiftie as of November 2023 I just didn’t have the attachment to Joe or too many expectations for the album so I just maybe immediately understood the story she was telling as far as the Joe to Matty stuff. It was easy to clock what was MH coded. I can’t imagine how disorienting it would have been though otherwise. I feel like this is why I’m so certain about Chloe et all connection to Maroon too. It’s just glaring and obvious to me but I didn’t have years with maroon. 😬 And of course how do WE actually know for SURE? We don’t. 🤣

Sue f

Feel like these mashups are Matt coded. Don’t hate me

Cassidy

I’m actually crying at the way Bonny clutched Em’s head as high infidelity started 😭😭😭

Jenny Carey

I am really here for the boyfriend coffee cameos! Such sweet boys for our Queens! 😍🥹

Clash Fan

I try not to have preconceived idea about her new albums for the very reason Bonny mentions. I'm not saying I always succeed but I do try. I don't always have to relate to the lyrics to love and enjoy a song though. I don't relate with a lot of Rep for example but I still enjoy the hell out of those songs. I didn't expect to relate to TTPD as much as I did but I had a similar experience. First guy I really fell for in my early 20's and we were both just in very different places so it didn't work out. He looked me up 5 years after we called it off and spent the next year and a half breaking down my resistance via email and phone until I agreed to give him another chance. We lived on opposite coasts so he came out to see me, had a fun week together where he love bombed the hell out of me. He flew home and then proceeded to ghost me. Why? It was confusing and hurtful but it also gave me a massive sense of closure on the original relationship. I did "wonder" what we could have been but after the second round I knew it had happened exactly like that for a reason. I had been mentally comparing every guy I dated to him for some time. I should say I was comparing them to the image I had of him in my mind, not the reality. It was incredibly freeing to be released from those thought processes.

Jess.

The need some fans get carried away with trying to make connections within her songs (especially trying to make everything post 1989 about Matty). It's exhausting

Hana Hoffman

Bonny I’m loving your hair!! It’s looking really red right now and it looks incredible

Aly J

Am I the only one who thinks Maroon and Chloe etc. are about Harry???????????????

E ✨🩷

I’m glad Taylor is coming to Murrayfield in Edinburgh to be honest, they are much more used to large concerts. I saw Harry Styles at Ibrox Stadium in Glasgow 2022 and it was such a shambles 😭😭 they host football there all the time obviously but I guess just weren’t expecting the extra volume of people.

David Lane

Maybe the mashups were because of the delay so she gave them a little extra

luiza.

i think high infidelity is certainly about calvin!! but i do think she wanted to tell a story singing it after fresh out the slammer. see: there's many different ways that you can kill the one you love -> another summer taking cover, rolling thunder, he don't understand me -> at the house lonely, good money, i'd pay if you'd just know me -> handcuffed to the spell i was under -> lock broken, slur spoken -> fresh out the slammer, i know who my first call will be to in summary: i think she was telling a story that her relationship with joe kind of ended just like her relationship with calvin. she was feeling like she was in a cage, so unfulfilled that she started fantasizing with another guy. guilty as sin is a newest, mature and more intense version of gorgeous lol

E ✨🩷

fresh out the slammer on piano reminds me of how she does Maroon on piano 😌 gorgeous

Jessica

My biggest flex of being a swiftie is having April 29 as my birthday

julie

y'all have me reading back through High Infidelity lyrics now, and I am suddenly FATHOMING the parallel (along with the getaway car connection) between "Lock broken, slur spoken" and "Ended with the slam of a door Then he'll call her a whore" Did Calvin slam the door so hard he broke the lock?

Isabelle Gatapia

I think April 29th this year is saying thats when she got with him! Since Joe and hers breakup announcement was beginning of April!!

Jessica

I 10000% agree with u Emily! I don’t understand the fans obsession with changing the well-established TS lore. Not every song/album is about Matty! 😑 (Not counting TTPD ofc.) Nobody’s going to convince me that Taylor cared more about Matty than Joe, or anyone else she’s dated for that matter. Taylor has never been a wallflower when it came to dating.. if she has her eye on someone, she’s going to make a move. So this idea that she’s been pining for Matty since 2014 makes no sense to me. To answer Bonny’s point about how High Infidelity and You’re Losing Me could be written around the same time, Taylor has already given us that answer in her Midnights prologue/excerpt, when she tells us that Midnights is about 13 different nights/periods in her life. And since that album is looking at the breakdown of her long-term relationship, it makes sense that she’d be reflecting on the very beginning of her relationship with Joe and also the very end of it too. Just my opinions ofc, but i think as a fandom we sometimes forget that Taylor does tell us her thought process for all of her albums in her prologues, etc, so that we can better understand her line of thinking when we start analyzing them.

KyraB

You guys really do walk the line the best. Speculating about who or what the inspiration for songs is completely natural. I truly believe that Taylor has no problem with some speculation as long as it’s done in a respectful manner and not the one and only focus. You both do this brilliantly. When I listen I draw my own guesses about where I think Taylor derived inspiration from but more importantly what is the overall message and meaning of the song and how it relates to my personal experiences.

Tess7

Taylor is such a phenomenal song writer. She does tell us very clearly when she wants us to know something. Example: Blue dress, on a boat or Not a twin from your dreams, she’s a crook who was caught, or STYLE lol Other times, she’s more vague. This album is clear in her angry songs- Cassandra, Who’s Afraid or Aimee. I think So Long London is about Joe. She even tells us Joe was thinking of someone else - and she wasn’t sure he wanted to be there. I think there are some songs that are drawing from both relationships. This album has some of her best writing. I’m still only listening to TTPD and I haven’t fathomed every song yet lol I love the way you two carefully walk that line when breaking down the songs. Always respectful, but commenting on obvious tea. Glad you finally got THAT song tonight! Love you guys!

Lilly

I am an art person, I love stories, painting and everything in between so with Taylor (just like any art) my fav part is the interpretations and having room for creative thinking. I love making those connections but in different way. Yes I like knowing roughly who she made the song about and all the gossip but I LOVE the connections she uses with the writing style and the stories and the metaphors in the song. I focus on the fact she used Cassandra from Greek mythology in a song instead of the fact that it may connect to the whole kim/kayne situation if that makes sense. Not that I don’t like knowing what it’s about but I like the weaving of things together that aren’t normally put together. I also love to make connections to my own life, I have many songs that she has written about a love interest and for me relates to an ex friend or a love interest of my own or a metaphorical love. From me it’s the interpretation and I think that why I love chats and reacts so much because I get to see other peoples points in ways I’ve never thought of before

siobhan

the crowd was screaming SO LOUD during the way i loved you, i can't believe it's taken her this long to play hahahaha

marissa

As they deserve! 😤💖 (but can I get one too? 🥺 lmao)

SwIfTeA

I definitely feel like both Chloe or Sam... & Maroon are about Matty. This song tells the story of their 10 year long relationship better than any other song in the album. Also in Maroon she says 'I wake with your memory over me that's a real fucking legacy to leave' & in Chloe or Sam... at the end she says 'Will I always wonder'. So maybe she is saying even after things didn't work out for them 2014, she still had him in mind for 10 years & now that they are broken up, will she still wonder about him & what their relationship could have been if they didn't end things in 2014.

paulina ⭐️

my brain is broken guys because we don’t know each other personally and i was watching livestream and reacted same way as Bonny thinking omg she’s mashing Em’s song! 😅 👉 regarding european big events and concert culture: in some of european countries we don’t see biggest pop stars on regular basis they always go to UK, France, Netherlands and eventually Germany. Lisbon is hosting so many sports events but this means they deal with much smaller crowd. and also not that obsessed and dedicated crowd as taylor’s fans. in this case too many people tried smuggle big bottles, not enough security to manage queue so barriers were basically flying, not enough staff to scan tickets etc.. GA standing tickets in recent years are becoming very big problem here (and in south America as well i guess) for few reasons: - fan culture has changed, people really don’t respect each other while fighting for best spot to see their fav. you can buy vip and be more far away than GA because security is not able to manage floor - camping culture- with the most obsessive fandoms like taylor lana or harry- it’s not safe it’s not normal it’s not hygienic - climate change- summer time now in most of those countries is as you know extremely hot it’s just not safe to be in that crowd without water or camping for hours - lack of floor seats. i really don’t know why US and Australia can manage having seats and rest not that would be completely different experience for us. they really can’t imagine how quickly biggest day and dream can turn into dangerous exhausting nightmare i’ve seen Lana for the first time last year in UK and even tho it was my best day it was also one of the worsts because of people around me and crowd treatment i’m terrified for Wembley shows/ staff is prepared and they are used to concerts like that but it will be hunger games for best standing spot 😩😩😩😩 this comment is way too long 💀

Hannah Grace

Coldplay is my original love, about to see them for the 4th time.

Jaana

The way I gasped at the Fresh out the slammer x High infidelity mash up 😱 I didn’t think she’d mash up TTPD songs before she’d played them once on their own. But that’s the best thing about our unhinged blondie, she knows how to keep us on our toes.

Sean

One feeling I have about High Infidelity, is that it's not exactly one of her straighforwardly autobiographical songs. It's closer to something like Fortnite, a story that's clearly an allegory for her real life, but the actual details aren't the same. Joe (famously) did not "drag her feet right down the isle." They didn't live in American suburbia with "picket fences sharp as knives." But the feelings she explores in that song are probably something that she was feeling and related to, and she felt more comfortable writing a story about it then telling us straight up what was going on with her. It's very folklore-evermore coded in that way.

sienna silva

As I was fathoming Fresh out the slammer, the lyrics “daily disappearing, for just one glimpse of his smile,” could that be Taylor going to the studio to work on Midnights and collaborating with Matty?!? Ahhhh just a crazy thought

Lilliana

Bonny’s hand reaching up to grab Emily’s head

Catarina Conceição

this is crazyyyyy!! this was my show, how i move on from this 🥺🥺🥺

Dianne Janssen

She started half an hour late I think. Theres an hour timedifference between Lisbon and Stockholm / Paris so it’s seems like an hour later

Azucena Ch.Fdz.

I find funny how some very direct references like the scarlet maroon lyric in chloe et al linking to maroon get overlooked because they can change a beloved song to be about Matty but other direct references to similar themes are fine to be related to! My 2 cents here! Hehe sorry if anyone disagrees!

Taylor Mitcham

This is why I'm glad I found your channel (or perhaps, the channel found me) because you divulge into theories not only about the dating life, but also just how the lyrics are relatable to us as fans as well. That viewpoint is so rare to come by because of the hungry gossip seekers and its really refreshing to see y'all take a different route that is way more respectful not only to Taylor herself, but to her art. I'm sure some of the songs that she writes, she has lines that are doubled edged (1 for her, 2 for the fans) and some lines that really are just for things to be relatable to us. I can't wait to see more from you both <3

Lily

I also believe that the red herring element is weaved through the whole album and there’s lines/words in songs meant to purposefully throw us off from assigning them to one person. To me, she’s mashed up both relationships and even older ones to make sense of the behavioral patterns she had/has in order to ultimately heal. There’s obviously some songs that are clearly about one person, but songs like Fortnight, Chloe etc and loml are a mixture. Anddddd to me her mashup today of FOTS and High Infidelity shows another parallel with the beginning of both of these last relationships and how she felt like she was not being loved enough by both Joe and Calvin.

Amanda P

I interpret High Infidelity in a more vague way, as if she’s on & off with someone and dancing around the boundaries of what’s acceptable to do “on a break,” which is similar thematically to Guilty as Sin & FOTS. The question “do you really want to know where I was April 29th?” reminds of when you get back together and ask “do you really want to know who I was seeing/hooking up with while we were on a break?” because technically it’s not cheating, but it will be hurtful to hear hence her not knowing that “he was keeping count” of what they were doing while apart. To me, this ties into her relationship with Joe where he was “slowly killing her by not loving her enough” as referenced in You’re Losing Me. Based on the 2021 timeline, we know they were on & off and it seems like Matty might’ve “brought her back to life” meaning he made her feel something again after years of being stuck in limbo, when they rekindled while her & Joe were “off”. I do also agree with Bonny & Emily that we could be getting too into the nitty gritty 🫶🏼

Anna Miotello

I'm going to share my interpretation of Chloe etc. I personally think this is a song about thinking of somebody from your past and wondering how that unexplored relationship could have turned out. Giving the drug references, I do believe it's referring to Matty. They had a fling in 2014 but she pulled the breaks on that relationship because of his drug problems and maybe there were other reasons too. I also think this song feels like it was written before she got with him, perhaps while she was still with Joe and started to develop feelings with Matty. "So if you want to break my cold, cold heart. Say you loved me" makes me think about how the depression and isolation in the relationship with Joe made her feel almost numb (cold heart) and she is pleading for him to make her feel something and get her out of the slammer. "And if you want to tear my world apart. Say you'll always wonder" is giving me guilty as sin? vibes, so again reaffirms for me the idea that she wrote this one before she had a chance to explore a relationship with Matty. Anyways... I think we all have some songs where it really helps fathoming who this was written about and a more specific timeline to be able to connect with it (Chloe etc). But then there are others where the speculation annoys me a little bit because from my perspective, the message of the song is so crystal clear, and the storytelling so powerful, that it almost ruins the song for me to try and give it a paternity test (e.g. The Bolter, Cardigan, Peter). But overall, I really like your approach to analyzing Taylor's songs. I think 99% of the times you do it right and you have that perfect balance of paying attention to lyrics, production and also putting the song into context.

Adyson

I want a coffee boy too!

Jenna Bolmgren

When the morning came we were cleaning incense off your vinyl shelf (Maroon) vs. Get the matches, toss the ashes off the ledge (FOTS)? 🤔

Hollie

I fully expected twily to be played at a rain show 😮

Claudy

The crowd was so loud during twily.. I was kinda hoping for a twily x change mashup, but these guys deserved that incredible mashup.

Jordan

High Infidelity could also just be a ‘guilty as sin?’ Situation where it purely hypothetical and made up. Maybe it’s a threat - keep it up Joe and I’ll cheat on your ass. Do you really wanna know where I’ll be on April 29TH? It could just be a metaphor. It’s hard to see it through a lens of figurative or literal sometimes tho and high fidelity has always been a Rosetta Stone of mystery

Leila

I re-watch their previous album reactions ✨💛

V. Babida

The way I screamed when she started singing The Way I Loved You! Hahaha that song had me in a chokehold when fearless OG came out but I haven’t had a moment with it in ages and yesterday’s show reminded me how much I also need a fearless moment ASAP

Bluewater38

Chat….react and reflect ! Really enjoyed watching this x

Mariana Mota Barroso

Hey, guys! I´m quite new on Patreon and I am always curious when you mention you got letters from Taylor!!! Is there a video where you talk about it?

LeafyJean

They show them in Melbourne Night 3 video if you just scroll down. They’re in the thumbnail!!

Katie Wednesday

My dream songs were come back be here and the way I loved you….my show is next week. This is a defcon 5 situation

Sezi

I fell asleep with my headphones on during TTPD! I can’t believe it. Might have to repent.

Hannah

I don’t know if you count Sweden as one of those smaller countries and smaller venues. But yes, ofc, Taylor may have had the record for attendance in that specific arena/stadium in Sweden (it’s only like 10 years old) but she does not hold the record for most attended show in Sweden (that is still held by Swedish a Swedish pop artist). She is just barely a couple of thousands above Springsteen a few years ago so the crowds are absolutely large on the swedes scale but by no means unprecedented.

Hannah

But then again there were no delays due to security in Sweden so I don’t know what areas you are referring to.

Hannah

Also the Coldplay love ❤️ Have you seen them live before? Absolutely brilliant live.

Marissa

She’s 34! She says she’s happiest when she’s making music all the time. She’s NOT retiring. I also feel like people say this because they think she might be starting a family at some point, which is kind of a misogynistic thing to say. Why would she stop making music and performing if she ever becomes a mom? That’s, respectfully 💖ridiculous💖 I think she will still be doing this at 85 ✨

Celena

A thought about why so much matty~ I think that this is a Segway into Karma. This album gives us some insight into her friendship/situationship/relationship with him and so WHEN 😁 Karma comes it will now make sense, especially for the newer swifties who weren't around during 1989 and the Dark time after. That's my thoughts 🧡🧡

Bec P

As someone else commented, I think Taylor knows what she’s doing with each reference and i feel some of them are red herrings to hide the real meanings or get people thinking along other lines. I also think people automatically think the drugs reference in chloe et al has to be 100% about Matty, but with all the ‘blue’ references (sacrificed us to to the gods of your bluest days) in relation to Joe, i don’t think it’s too far a reach to think drugs could also be related to his mental health and its impact on their relationship

Sezi

Bonnies illegal head grip to Emily while Emily fathoms it’s High Infidelity 😆❤️

Sarah✨️

Taylor said that she writes songs and if they all don't fit on one album, she will try to release them on later albums. So I always have that in my mind when hearing her songs. Really, we don't know how long ago they were first thought of or written.

Talia Adams

I feel like pairing fresh out the slammer and high infidelity is almost like referencing both the start and end of her relationship with Joe with the “getaway car” idea and running to someone else

christian scarinci

about high infedelity, i think she found herself fantasizing about cheating on Joe because of how he made her feel empty and how matty was the exact opposite, so she started reminiscing about the time she actually did it and wrote a song about that. i don't think she cheated on joe either, but i do think that midnights was such a way to look back at her past situations in order to understand her current one, so this could enter in the same view. just a theory idk ❤️

Margarida

I cannot believe I was there……it was amazing, the crowd was so loud

Margarida

The lack of security was actually ridiculous, we were waiting to get in for 4 hours and there were thousands of us and 4 of them. And the thing is, it’s the first time something like this has ever happened, ed Sheeran literally performed at this stadium and there were zero problems

Jaime Kelley

If anyone goes to Lisbon n2 be prepared!! It took us 2h30 to get into the stadium. Queues for nothing, 2 people per gate checking tickets 😵 also put your water caps in your pocket bc they will take them. Also bury your power banks because they’re picking and choosing who takes them in (my friend had to throw her two away and I strategically placed mine and got them in) So pleased with our surprise songs. All in all a superior night 🥹

Margarida

And Harry styles performed last summer at this venue that’s it’s kinda like a festival type of venue, with tens of thousands of people just standing all at the same enclosure and there were also no problems there

SpaceCryptid

What makes me think she didn't cheat on Joe is that if she did then I think they would've broken up way before they did. Obviously none of us knows her but I just really don't see her cheating while also fighting so hard to hold onto an already dead relationship. Like I just don't see her white knuckling going down with a ship if she's already stepped off it.

Dina

Girlies Europe has experienced huge shows like this many many times 😂 Some stadiums/countries are just messier than others

Starbuck1234!

Lisbon supremacy! Twily!!! I fathomed Chloe & Co and it’s one of my faves. Calling herself a “scarlet maroon” for me is wild. Who knows now about the song maroon.

Hannah

Love your chat in the balance in understanding where Taylor is coming from and going into the lore with each song, but still hearing the song for what it means no matter her personal inspirations. Yes she came from somewhere, yes she is a marketing genius that knows what she is doing and how she got this big - but there is an element of respecting the music and it’s greatness in an of it’s own that can’t happen if it is just her personal diary. It is by relating to our own life and feelings that makes the music great and bigger than her personal life. You guys always tread that line beautifully imo. 🫶

kika

Portuguese swiftie here, FIRST TIME SEEING HER…. TWILY????? STFU!!!!!! It was THE best night ever, I can’t wait for tonight!!!! 5 SONGS?????

Katie K

My feelings on the scarlet maroon lyric in Chloe etc is that she’s calling herself a scarlet maroon not the relationship (like she is in the song Maroon), like she’s tarnished now from this experience for better or worse. And it really reminds me of “we show off our different scarlet letters trust me mine is better”That’s just how I’m taking it.

Katie K

Omg CONGRATULATIONS!! What an absolute win for a first show seeing Taylor! ✨🫶🏻✨

Layan

FIRST TIME SEEING HER FLEW INTO LISBON FOR HER!!! One of the best experiences of my life❤️❤️❤️

Graciekay

Bonny’s giving Daphne from Scott doo today ❤️😂

TScout

Regarding High Infidelity, she specifically mentions April 29th — day Calvin song she wrote on came out, Met Ball coded — so I feel like it has to be about the night she met Tom and Joe and acted like things were really over with Calvin and were not. I’m confused as to why you now think of it as possibly about Matty. Are you just saying that because she paired it with a Matty song about yearning for him that she’s somehow insinuating that she cheated on Joe too? Cause I don’t think she’s doing anything except pairing songs that work together because there’s a similar through line in the songs.

Soraia Ferreira

This was my show and we won so bad with the surprise songs!! 5 in one night is amazing 🥹🥹 can’t believe we got twily, this will be a night to remember!! Let’s see what happens tonight 🥰

Soraia Ferreira

As for the show itself, it was a messss organisation wise, hoping today will be better 🤞🏼

Katie K

This!! Yes, I agree.

Rsvee

1) We need a petition for Taylor to release an acoustic version of the first halve of TTPD! The songs sound superior on piano! 2) Did you see on her instagram that she wrote a caption about her shows in Sweden: Can't believe this was our first time playing in Sweden - but it won't be our last.... She's definitely not done yet!

Amanda W.

I must say, not everyone has the same definition of cheating. So it's fair to Taylor could consider something she did as cheating without ever actually "touching his skin".

CamilleC

I think she learned to write differently, like in Hoax. The songs are multiple things at once, so we are confusion. In Marcus&All i thought the core message was she's addicted to the what ifs which is very relatable. I agree with you that to see the songs as Matty songs is taking time cause we didn't even thought he was in her life let alone a muse like that. But idk the common thing is that She's the writer. She talks about ghosts all her career it doesn't mean everything in Matty the ghost now 😂, her exes especially the ones that got away are all ghosts, they live in her brain. I think in the past she was more black and white there is a beginning and an end to rs. But has she grows older she sees the nuances, you can still remember, pined about someone you have lost. Thinking about Maroon it could be so much, her seeing now the Jake rs as more maroon instead of Red with time passing like she thought Gold was Joe but it's not, or a rs that isn't Red or gold something in between. And she could have felt this with diff ppl. And about her retiring, no she's not she loves it so much. I could see her doing things diff, like saying goodbye to the eras concept. Or it'll be new eras as her life changes, this tour feels like a celebration of the past not an erasure(😏) of the future me think ☝️ Anyway love the little talks you do in those videos 👌😘

Jade

I had that thought, also. It’s a wonderful lyric, because it could be “losing yourself in someone who mostly brings you down only to wait for the glimmer of good times, a smile, anything” or the more literal “disappearing” into the studio and craving the closeness with someone else bc that glimpse of his smile, etc, make you feel alive again.

Katie K

I think it’s beyond obvious to all of us that you respect Taylor and her songwriting so much and that must be easy for Taylor to see when she watches you too 🥰 I never doubted for a second that you guys would change knowing that she watches your videos but it is remarkable and amazing seeing how you’re seemingly approaching your videos in just the same down to earth way because I’m sure it would’ve effected most people!! At least that’s how it looks from the outside idk. Maybe you feel more pressure on the inside? 🤍🫶🏻

Jade

I am not sure that all of Taylor’s songs on Anthology are all written from an autobiographical viewpoint. I wrote dark poetry about themes that aren’t literal ties to my experience, but they tap into an emotion I need to release and the words pour out of me. Perhaps it’s like that with Tay. Her forte is the relationship perspective and there are narratives to write about (cheating, etc) that may not be a literal event in her life, but releasing an emotion through a story that ISNT related or literal, could be what she needs to process what is actually happening. I’m sure there are a ton of songs that showcase a timeline of events tied to some person (s) specifically, but there can also be the other. She can be feeling sadness and longing and then use a friends experience as inspiration, or a book/movie or her beautiful imagination. If we get too lost trying to tie every word to an event and every song to someone she loved (or hated) then we miss out on her truth. Her truth is that she is a brilliant songwriter and everything she puts on an album has served its purpose for her already and is now available to us for our own cathartic release.

bluemoon1989

Fresh out the slammer is my favourite song on the entirety of TTPD and probably in my top 7 TS songs - sonically it is perfect and like a trance reminding me of some of the best moments on NFR and Ultraviolence and lyrically I’m pretty sure Shakespeare had a ghostwrite.

Jennie 🐍🖤

Did Bonnie not suggest she should mash up high infedelity and another song about infedelity ? Knowing Taylor watches these videos sometimes … I may be delulu but I genuinely feel like sometimes she does things the girls say lol

Maria Carmen

I think it was Guilty as sin that she suggested!

Clara

yea also the cheap rose and roommate lyrics in maroon to me don’t scream jake or joe. also she references the muse and her as a legacy and in loml (which is about matty) she calls their relationship legendary.

Marcady

I'm lovin' the coffee-boyfriends but I always wonder if it's not common in Australia to have your own coffemachine? Because in Germany where I live everyone has one at home 🙈

Roxyy

I love how Bonny happily started singing The Way I Loved You before realizing what she even was singing

Maria Carmen

My theory about her mashing up fresh out the slammer & high infidelity is that in HI she talks about being taken for granted and how suffocating it is to slowly lose love from your partner. And then she met Joe - constellation in his eyes - and he brought her back to life but after years together and the anxiety and probably the mental health struggles she realizes she got herself in another prison, ie trying to make him smile, staying for an hour of sunshine (even though her face was grey he wouldn’t admit that they were sick!!!!)

Clara

don’t think jake drinks cheap rose or had a roommate, he’s very rich and grown even at the time that they dated over 10 years ago lol

Issy Smith

I was just thinking that high infidelity is actually not explicit about physically cheating on someone…maybe just that she saw someone or had a conversation with someone and it brought her back to life. I feel like that kind of emotional cheating can still be considered infidelity? 🩶

Heaven Hiller

No it’s not common to have a machine in Australia. At our home we use a French press or a stove top. But a lot of people use instant coffee at home and go out for nice coffee. I don’t know anyone with a coffee machine!

Sam

I always assumed High Infidelity was about her cheating on Calvin with Tom. The references to records and headphones signaled Calvin to me.

kika

It was spectacular! It was surreal being so used to seeing other people’s videos and vlogs and then going myself, insane!

CAM

She did her time... For committing high Infidelity y'all

Rachel Nevergall

I agree!! I feel like “Guilty as Sin” was a way of saying the emotional affair still made her feel guilty. And even lines in High Infidelity sound blurry. Bent the truth/Dancing Around It. Very curious. I also feel like many songs she explored about infidelity might have been her processing the different ways ones could cheat.

Amanda Ruth

I have lived in Germany for work and Australia for Uni. The Australians use powder instant coffee all the time. I once asked someone where their coffee machine was and she held up a spoon! I was shocked. Germans have the BEST coffee machines. Even our Kindergarten had a super expensive coffee machine 😂 It was crazy awesome.

Christine Violet

When I was first learning all the songs on fearless, I would always mix up the way I loved you and the other side of the door, so it’s perfect that she mashed them up!!!

Lauren

I’m pretty sure Matty came back into her life in 2022, but the only proof I have is vibes and my assumption of when Taylor and Matty were writing songs (which I only saw during 2022).

Jesse Conner

I’ve been formulating a theory for a while but it’s not fully there yet. Essentially, I think since at least Lover and DBATC (maybe even before) Taylor has been looking for ways to create music that is an outlet for feelings but also put distance between them and her actual life. So we have Folklore and Evermore, which provided distance by being about made up stories, but we now know were actually quite biographical in ways we didn’t know at the time. And then Midnights, which provided anonymity by being about 12 random nights in her entire life. And now with TTPD, she has two closely occurring break ups which can be used to blur the lines of who they are about. For instance, BDILH seems to shift from Matty to Travis. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the songs are an amalgam of two or more people, like TTPD (song) and loml. Also some are clearly about a specific person (SLL, TSMWEL). Anyways, something I’ve been thinking about lately…

chatsandreacts

Oh gosh I’m so sorry you had that experience, there is nothing worse!! Hopefully Taylor’s performance made up for it all in the end 🤩

Lu

I’ve had the same theory about some songs on TTPD blurring the line and being about more than one muse too. I also feel like the similarities she presents of both relationships (out of the oven, into the microwave) serve as a way to blend together into songs. Anyway, I agree with what you were saying lol

Lauren

Also - I saw a theory that Chloe etc is about 4 muses… purely because there are 4 names. Originally I was thinking 3 (Mh, Joe, Jake) because Jake is her forever frame of reference and most of her TTPD songs are a mix and match of mh/joe for every song. But the thought of 4 is intriguing to me.

Marcady

Ah I'm also working in a kindergarten ☺️ But there we just have the good old 'Filterkaffeemaschine' 😉

Lu

When she sang TWILY (my favorite song from Fearless, takes me back to 14-15) the first thing I could think about was seeing your reaction lol bc I knew if somebody was gonna appreciate that song like me, it was gonna be you two 🫶🏼

Leanne22

The grasp of Ems head when HI started 😂😂😂😂

Lively_Ash

Absolutely!!! It’s those emotional

SomDrum

I really appreciate what Bonny was saying about forming your own relationship with the songs, regardless of who or what they were written about. I feel like it's been a big shift for me since the Midnights Era when I really learned about the Swiftie community online, (which I love!) but also learned about all the theories and really intense curiosity that people have about Taylor's personal life. Before, I experienced the albums in what felt like a more pure way. I didn't know who certain songs were about, and tbh I didn't really care. I either connected with them or didn't, and not knowing the details made the art more up to my own interpretation. Now, one of my biggest pet peeves is how people often get all twisted up about needing to know EXACTLY what a song is about to appreciate it. It's just like Taylor says on tour... her dream is that after that night, you just think about the memories YOU made with the songs.

Sarah Louise

This may have been said already, but I took the piano songs as the bookends of the Joe relationship, fresh out the slammer being the end of it and running to Matty, and the high infedelity April 29th theory of that was her meeting and hooking up with Joe pre met gala, while technically with frightful Adam.

Jesse Conner

☺️ yes! The woman clearly knows what she is doing by making these songs either ambiguous, or (and I think this is very likely) by including little details about more than one person. I think this both makes the songs more relatable and universal, and also gives her a little privacy.

SomDrum

I do also feel like Emily and Bonny walk that fine line really beautifully. It's part of the reason I love their reactions and deep dives so much - there's always a sprinkle of context that might help enhance your relationship with the music, but that's rarely the focus. Super respectful and very commendable, especially in the current online Swiftie landscape.

Rick V

I have loved “The Way I Loved You” ever since I saw that short YT of Camila Cabello singing it with her friend sitting at that table.

Courtney McAlexander

I will just say, people were ready to make connections to EVERY mashup she was doing leading into TTPD (back when everyone thought it was all gonna be about Joe). Once TTPD came out, everyone kinda got collective amnesia on that whole thing.

Sarah (not in her sunday best)

I don’t think Taylor actually cheated… “high infidelity” describes betrayal of the relationship on a high level… daydreaming about someone else (guilty as sin) or “never loving them enough”

StatMatt

“Brought me back to life” doesn’t have to be physical. She was emotionally starved at the end of her relationship with Joe and her reconnecting with Matty brought “color back into [her] face.” The theme of High Infidelity fits perfectly even though it wasn’t initially about Matty.

Mariana

Taylor Nation just posted on twitter "Only a special crowd gets to hear a song that hasn’t been played 91 shows in ♥️ #LisbonTSTheErasTour, you were also the first to get 5 songs during surprise song o’clock!" Do you think there might be a show with 6 songs? 🤩

Julia toniato

same and I don’t even like coffee

Chelsea Wright

also the lyrics "put on your records and regret me", "put on your headphones and burn my city"? no doubt about calvin!

imogen

is your yellow 1989 tv CD okay there in the background? She looks like she's slipped a little bit and needs some help 😂

Julia Sarah

Hi! I am often a passive reader and fan here but since you asked :). I’m from Vienna and omg me and Austria will see Taylor for the first time in August (I hope she gives me August also a a surprise song in that month ??) and even though we are a smaller country like Portugal with almost 9 million people, something big like this has happened but barley, but Eurovision is always big, Coldplay, harry styles, Paul mccartney was here with a full stadium. But still a very big deal and that’s so exciting !!(and a bit scary to me)

iLaney90

I've always felt High Infidelity was about CH and meeting Joe and Tom. I can see High Infidelity being mashed up with Fresh Out the Slammer, as Bonnie said, because of the theme of being over the neglect of one relationship and finding solace either in another person, whether physical or emotional cheating it's doesn't matter, the point is the feelings are very similar. I do think that moving forward Taylor has so much life experience and multiple relationships where she has experienced similar situations and emotions. My friend who is an author talks about how when she writes poetry, she starts with one inspiration, but then a line might trigger another memory of a different situation and she starts to weave that in as well, so the poem becomes a blending of multiple, similar experiences that triggered those same feelings. I think we need to start viewing Taylor's art as a blending of her experiences rather than expecting her to still write from a straight up diary entry perspective that she may have had when she had less life experience.

Raegan

Maybe at most it would be considered emotional cheating

Hannah

I can’t WAIT until you guys really deep dive into the lyrics of Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus! She is SAYING some thingsssssss 🫢

Aggi78

Em perfectly worded what i was trying to say for some time, that i think Taylor is okay with speculating about her muses to a certain extent, as long as it is not to invasive, for her or her partner. That said, i think Chloe at al is about MH, as well as Maroon. Maroon has never been a Jake or Joe song to me. The roommate lyric always threw me off. I can see Matty having a roommate though. And it would also make sense when thinking about Peter. They connected, but never really got together bc he said he's gonna grow up, but they probably wanted to stay in contact. Until they didn't.

TScout

💯

TScout

Regarding Chloe et al, I always see it as a Matty song for the allusion to kissing both men and women (as Matty does), the reference to drugs as to what kept them apart, the reference to the relationship playing out over a decade, and her mentioning that if he really wants to hurt her he will tell her that he really only loved the past version of herself and she’s changed too much and that’s why he doesn’t want her now. None of those things say Joe to me, but they all scream Matty.

Aaron M

High infidelity is a DJ pun (hi fidelity) so I think it’s about Calvin

Jentallygirl

Love the chatty chat! 🥰 I’ve been trying to view many of the TTPD songs as Taylor’s “emotional experiences”, instead of thinking of them as her literal physical experiences. It’s obviously a great feeling when the lyrics lend themselves to help us answer the burning who/what/when questions… BUT she’s in her mid-30s and has accumulated a lot of similar experiences with love (reminds me of Carrie Bradshaw saying something similar, lol) and we honestly don’t have the right to expect EXACT answers. And the Swiftie discourse can feel a little judgmental sometimes… like she needs to explain herself. She absolutely doesn’t. We adore and respect her because overall we’ve decided she’s a lovely human… but she’s not perfect. No one is. My personal sense is that she’s extremely devoted and romantic during the *firmly committed periods* ☺️ of her relationships, but is probably a little “fuzzy” during the transitions, lol, if that makes sense… she’s a deeply emotional person, which allows her to write amazing songs! It probably also comes with some challenging sides too… but as I remind myself all the time, EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING. 🙋‍♀️ That said, I would absolutely LOVE to feel like just ONE song is about Harry! 💓 haha… remember those simpler times when we didn’t know Matty was even really on Taylor’s radar?? Ahhh… 🤪 And one other side note… I think Taylor’s also probably (quite understandably) developed a process of writing very revealing and vulnerable love/longing songs that could be attributed to the actual subject, but ALSO to her current beau (Joe, primarily)… so she can get the feelings out, but not simultaneously cause an *immediate breakup* when she’s not ready for that! And as a result, we could be getting quite the mashup of mixed signals… just sayin’, lol. 😉🤷‍♀️🫶🥳

Jentallygirl

Collective amnesia! 😂😂😂

Rita

Hi Emily and Bonnie! To answer your question, yes we have had quite big shows in Portugal, including Coldplay last year and they always went quite well. I really dont understand the bad organization that happened yesterday. But what is important is that we all enjoyed the show. I was there and I am so happy about all the five (!!!) surprise songs we got. The show was the best thing I have ever seen ❤️ I hope you have seen the videos of the champagne problems standing ovation when the lights went on it was incredible. Wish I had ticket for today so I could see it all again. I hope she keeps her promisse to return to Portugal in the future. i will always be there 🫶🏻

Megan Winton

I saw a tik tok saying that Harry styles put "downtown lights" by the Nile on his 2020 quarantine playlist! So in my mind, guilty as sin is about Harry styles 🤣 and I'm loving that interpretation

Katie LaFave

who do you think maroon is about

Amber McCullen

I feel like Chloe, Sam song is about Harry Styles. I never followed him enough but I thought he used drugs also. He is the only love of hers that never said it back to her. “Just say you love me”. This relationship never played out to full term so she always has wondered what if, “cause I wonder”. Matty told her over and over he loved her. My opinion. 😅🥰

Grace

Coldplay puts on a superior live show

alex

They always go above and beyond!! How could someone hate on them I don’t understand.. but same with Taylor I guess I’m seeing them in august and I just know that it will be something else!😍🥹

Cecilia Sparke

It could also be about Harry, what you've mentioned applies to him too. And she ends saying 'I wonder' several times which could link to Wonderland. The lyric video also has a picture of her face with the eyes and top of her head cut off which is the same as the 1989 album cover. I'm not sure who it's about though.

Megan Spencer

I think we don’t realize how many of the Matty songs on TTPD were written years ago before the Matty interlude in 2023. Aaron and her both point that they’ve been working on these songs for 2+ years. I’m of the mind that she wrote Chloe et al, Peter, Guilty As Sin? Were all written before her and Matty were together again

Adyson

Same

Carly

I still think High Infidelity is about Calvin - there are so many references to him being a DJ and I think she purposely put these lyrics in the song to let us know this. "Put on your records and regret me." "Put on your headphones" And the reference to April 29th - the date the song both of them wrote together came out. I do think she felt neglected in this relationship and then also later with Joe. As you said, this can happen twice. I actually think Tolerate It and Bejeweled could be about both relationships with Calvin and Joe - maybe she even told Joe those were about Calvin. Plus she says in High Infidelity "I didn't know you were keeping count" - about Calvin - and then in long story short she says "No more keeping score" - presumably to Joe because with him she didn't have to do this anymore. High Infidelity could be Taylor cheating on Calvin with either Joe or Tom on April 29th - emotionally or physically.

Debbie

I always thought that High Infidelity was about her cheating on Calvin Harris with Joe or Tom. Of course, I could totally be way off base

Courtney

They really do! I’ve been to 2 of their concerts and got upgraded to the second row for one. I haven’t recovered!

Sarah K Heeter

I’m 100% with you about the unclear link between maroon and Chloe et al. I kind of think that maroon represented the fade of a bright love and that same parallel can be made about different things. Like maroon basically means it’s over. Like dried blood. It is bright red when it’s fresh and it fades to maroon. Sometimes I think she uses themes to link songs intentionally, and sometimes I kind of think she just likes certain themes and visuals and uses and reuses them.

Toby Veach

I think the TTPD set is the direction her future tours will go. More theatrical. More artwork/animation in the background. She can do anything she wants so why not 🤷‍♂️.

Mayra

As someone who worked at MetLife stadium for a decade, Coldplay is one of the best performing bands ever. Different career now, but loved seeing Taylor and Jack at MetLife as a fan instead of an employee.

Hannah S

Other than Taylor Swift, Coldplay was my favorite concert I’ve ever been to. I saw them for the Mylo Xyloto tour the first tour to have the light up bracelets Taylor uses now. It blew my mind as a kid seeing all the cool lighting technology they did and their performance was so fun.

Hannah S

My interpretation is that high infidelity is a reflection on her and Calvin but maybe that reflection came up because she found herself “locked in the basement” again. Regardless, it’s great to have two different songs about a similar feeling bc the details can make one song more relatable for you than another.

Sandy

Idk if anyone said this but from what I’ve gathered, Matty and Taylor bumped into each other Feb 2020 at the NME awards and she soon had folklore and Evermore out (my mind turns your life into folklore) The Grammys 2021 was her win for Folklore and I know she started writing other Midnights songs around then. I absolutely believe High Infidelity is about Matty in this context. Guilty as Sin talks of no physical cheating but they were in contact again after several years … especially with unresolved feelings, I can see why she “bent the truth” they could both be emotional cheating. Where does High Infidelity say physical cheating? There’s even a line about bumping into him one night in guilty as sin 🤔 I also think things in Midnights and the previous two albums are intentionally obscured so it’s not as clear as “I used to think love was burning red.” I think a lot of fans are scrambling to make meaning for Taylor’s life because this is the first time in years she’s being this transparent. Even this mash up shows she’s open about her history and is creating opportunities for speculation and connecting the dots

charlychops

I heard that the bands were actually provided by the stadium not Taylor, but its a cute lil debut nod even if it was just a swiftie there 😁

Giuliana Pomata

In my country (I live in Paraguay) the organization of large concerts is a real disaster😫😤 . They oversell tickets, in the preference sector.. going to the bathroom is not an option because they sit on the steps going up and/or going down, it is a disaster. That's why bringing a big artist like Taylor is not an option guys. Anyway, then we have to travel. 😕🥹

Curt Decker

Come back, be here is illegal

Kristen G

yessssss, queens...we KNOWWWW you got superior secret songs and mashups and anddd lol i'm that the mashups weren't JUST for y'all too lol share the tayvoodoo, besties!! lol #delulu

Naderge

all of a sudden, all is right with the world again 😌

Naderge

the fact that this has happened to me too 🤣

Naderge

that just means she going to do something super illegal for you that you can’t even fathom yet 😌🫶🏾

Naderge

that’s how i’m choosing to view them, it just makes more sense to me

Naderge

i personally think mr harry styles

F1Swiftie

That was my thought, too. Seems now people are making almost every song in her discography about MH. Chloe has same themes as Question…? and that song was related to HS until every song turned into a MH song. 😒 To me, Question…? sounds like Wonderland in the bridges, so to me, it’s: Wonderland -> Question…? -> Chloe et al.

skizzo

Lisbon has received a lot of huge concerts before, it was just not well organized.

Jordan

The problem sometimes with a song holding meaning in your own life with Taylor is that some of her songs can be extremely niche, bar a verse or a bridge etc. For example, TTPD (song) with all the lyrics about Jack and Lucy and bullshit like that… like ma’am I can only delude myself so much 💀 then with songs like Robin, where I KNOW it’s about Aaron’s kid, I can easily just use that as a metaphor for either your inner child or kids in general. Being a teacher, it’s actually quite a nice song! Hope for the future etc. I love how music can do this!!

Laura R

Thanks for touching on the phenomenon of wanting to know who each song is about. I found myself getting really swept up in that, and it was making it hard to connect to the songs. I finally took a step back and thought about why my other favorite Taylor songs are my favorites, and it has nothing to do with who the songs were about when she wrote them. Songs like cowboy like me, clean, right where you left me, getaway car, seven, out of the woods... and even ones from TTPD like peter, the black dog, guilty as sin, and the prophecy... The specialness in those songs is in how they make me feel through the melodies, production, &/or lyrics. Knowing the specifics of Taylor's story with the songs can be fun and can definitely help you connect more with certain songs. But my personal favorites relate to my life, or the sound of my favorites pumps my body with serotonin. lol.

Rose Ellen

I think it's a really interesting progression to think about Daylight ("I used to think love would be burning red") going into Maroon. In Maroon she's really reflecting on this relationship that's so deeply imprinted on her that she can't let it go. With the context of TTPD I think Maroon might be about Joe, especially thinking about the second verse ("how the hell did we lose sight of us again" etc). I also think it's possible in Chloe etc that "drugs" doesn't necessarily mean illicit drugs, it could mean medication - like antidepressants. Which to me kind of links back to Renegade. So in that context I think Maroon and Chloe etc are potentially both about Joe. A long relationship that leaves a stain on her, but that wasn't healthy for her to stay in anymore.

Megan Nash

I agree with this!! She was "dancing around it.." but there was no actual physical cheating. I think her and Joe's relationship was much more tumultuous and maybe even on and off than we realize, especially with how she talks about the pandemic and writing folklore on tour (at home lonely with my cats, etc.)

anfilias

So, no, concerts are not common in this massive size [many soccer games are]. And the promotor (LastTour) certainly weren't used or prepared for it. It was a mess. But today it really was better. Like night and day. I don't know exactly what they changed but it was 1000% better

Anna Collins

Bonny is giving Daphne from Scooby Doo

Melissa Collicutt

I must tell you ladies I also love Coldplay! I saw them in Boston once and they were fully illegal and superior in every way.

Jen B

I love your processing about getting swept up in kinda knowing more about Taylor through her songs, etc. With the pretense and an understanding that maybe it just doesn’t fuckin matter, I had a fathoming week one of ttpd being released, before this mashup, about high infidelity being about Matty Healy. What triggered me to think of this was “the constellations in his eyes.” I noticed every time she talks about Matty it is cosmic love, starry eyed, eyes like a remedy. Much about his eyes, much about cosmos/space/galaxies/stars when referencing Matty. I initially had the same thoughts as Em, with the fathoming of Guilty as Sin? However, that led me to ponder high infidelity more. High infidelity is a play on words with high fidelity, which is sound in its purest sense without distortion. It reminds me of a “high form” of cheating, which is emotional cheating/connecting. Perhaps it was never sexual/physical - hence why she’s talking about how the slowest way to kill some one is not knowing them enough. Maybe April 29th was simply a night of dancing to records and dreaming up a picket fence life with somebody else. Maybe it’s somebody getting to know her on a deeper level & that feeling so good, she developed a crush and longing for him. It never explicitly says anything physical happens in the song. If bending the truth is the unfaithful part she’s talking about, that’s emotional/conversational. Again, it doesn’t fully matter but *I wonder* (sung in Chloe & co. melody)

Laura Blake

I think that she could keep mashing up songs from her catalog well into the future. It’s a challenge for her and fun for the audience. Maybe add a banjo into the mix.

erin 🪻🎧☀️🇦🇺

in regards to chloe et al/maroon i think maroon is about their first connection in 2014 (but 'the rust that grew between telephones' implies that they fell out of contact which is what we as the public understand happened to that first connection, and aligns with the midnights concept of thinking back to situations throughout her life. and then chloe et al was written about the 2023 connection imo

Courtney Graham

Agree love how you guys respectfully talk about taylor and her lyrics and music!

erin 🪻🎧☀️🇦🇺

in saying that, despite chloe et al seemingly being about a romantic relationship, I deeply relate to it in my own life through a close friendship i had with someone who had an addiction. in the same way that taylor's songs capture and preserve a snapshot of emotion in her life, i feel that she can do that with the listener as well. like i will always listen to that song and think of my friend but when she wrote it, it was about something else and i think that's something so beautiful that should be celebrated!

Nicole Gordon

I actually think Chloe et all, like other songs on TTPD, is about several relationships. I think the different verses are different people. The drugs and "always wonder" fits for Matty, and scarlet maroon is Jake, and then when she switches to "say you love me" only, it's Harry (who never said it). But just the fact that it fits several relationships well speaks to the point that the song is a good, relatable song regardless of which parts speak to which situation for Taylor.

Matilda Brown

Taylor has also played how you get the girl 3 times throughout the tour.

Giulia

You both have such superior boyfriends 🫶

Miantsa

I unfortunately relate to Emily about that “Wearing imaginaryrings” line 😅 I ADORE Fresh Out the Slammer but that specific melody just grates my ears 😂😂😣🫣

Miantsa

About listening to other albums and getting out of the TTPD/Anthology bubble, I am definitely in my Fearless era at the moment (when I’m not in TTPD) and I’m loving it 🤩 Fearless is such a special album to me 🥹🥰💛💛

Miantsa

I definitely think it’s important to create our own relationship with songs and our own interpretation outside of what she’s personally speaking about. I think that’s the beauty in music. Sure I love knowing the meaning and symbolism she puts in her songs, but that’s where I personally draw the line about interpretation. We do get too carried away about what events she speaks about that sometimes we miss the simple fact of ENJOY THE SONGS for what they are 🥹

Taylor Hetzel

There’s so much in high infidelity that points to it being her cheating on frightful Adam with Tom/Joe. Plus she wrote that immediately after gushing over Joe in the folklore acceptance speech so I don’t think it makes sense to a cheating on Joe with matty situation. But I also hold firmly in the belief that Taylor/Matty reconnected when they wrote songs for midnights together and that’s when he really started working his way in again. I don’t at all think she was secretly pinning for Matty for the entire time she was with Joe. Because while yes there were clearly a lot of anxiety for her in that relationship, she also writes a lot about fighting for him because she thought they would be together forever.

Margarida

Oh she definitely did 😂. The moment she appeared I had already forgotten all about it

Daniela

Fresh out the slammer would be my #1…but that whole outro is not it for me 😞. Ruins the whole song. Just my opinion!

Tarot X

I don't see how Maroon is a Matty song. Does it fit their relationship? It feels like Joe song IMO. Even if they hadn't broken up yet. Especially..... "When the silence came We were shaking, blind and hazy How the hell did we lose sight of us again? Sobbing with your head in your hands Ain't that the way shit always ends? You were standing hollow-eyed in the hallway Carnations you had thought were roses, that's us I feel you, no matter what The rubies that I gave up" I think maybe the Scarlet Maroon of Chloe is Taylor herself. She was thinking of Matty in a "Guilty of sin" kind of way but chose to stay with Joe. So she was a scarlet as in a compromised Scarlet letter-esque way and Maroon/Isolated/ trapped in a relationship she didn't feel she could leave. Matty was too much of a risk. In 2014 and in 2021.  Imo Maroon is kind of a degraded red. It's made by red, blue, and yellow which are the colors Taylor associates with her and Joe. 

Al

I agree with Emily at the very end regarding the Eras tour being a sort of farewell to the older catalog. It makes sense. She will be in her 40's and with her own family. She is moving on.

Ana

Guys this was my first time ever seeing taylor!!! It was unbelieveble! During the champagne problems ovation they turned the stadium lights on it was MAGICAL!!! Taylor was so shocked you have to see it 🥹

alyssa🫶

I LOVE Coldplay! Please vlog your time at the concert 🫶

Juliana Martinez

i feel the same Daniela! i LOVE the chorus and the verses but the bridge and outro are not really hitting for me. i would’ve loved more energy or more umph for the bridge/outro

Jessie

Fresh out the Slammer is my second fav on TPD GAH!!!!

AE

I always took high infidelity as a song response to Calvin about meeting Joe or Tom

Jonathan Riches

queuing was a bit of nightmare, benfica stadium is huge they should have been prepared but had 4 people checking bags for just general standing, one section was even forgotten about and didn’t have ANY security when paramore had already started

Jonathan Riches

they had more people handing out bracelets but there was no need for that bc of how small the trickle of people was getting through bag check 🤦

Jonathan Riches

BUT overall, despite the unchecked stampedes that were happening in general standing, the fans were so friendly and we were all trying to organise and help eachother, met so many people from different countries, and everyone was still so excited for taylor and the vibe IN the stadium was immaculate

Tris

Exactly! The thing is we've had big concerts like this before (like Ed Sheeran at the same venue) and people didn't think it was this disorganised. I think it's because of the promoter as well.

Tris

Me too! I did think it was interesting how she repeated "put on your records" twice instead of saying "headphones" the second time...

Vero Alló

The “put on your records” line is what makes me feel like it has to be about Calvin, it just doesn’t make sense to put that about Joe

Jonathan Riches

yeah that’s what me and my friend thought too, such a shame :(

Pauline

Guys, did you buy your tickets by resellers? I am so afraid of scammers !

Tris

By the way, love your content!! I just wanted to quickly say thought that I was there and the delay wasn't an hour and a half, but rather about 45 minutes! Taylor was supposed to start at 7:30 pm local time and started at around 8:15pm instead. I'm so glad we still got to see Paramore and it didn't get cancelled instead, and also it was very helpful as half of the stadium was under direct sunlight until about 8pm (including where I was) and it would've been very hard to see if Taylor had started at her initial time.

majesticwestwick

The reason I’m so interested in who songs are about is not because I actually care about that, it’s because I want to know which songs are connected. (For example, I don’t actually care WHO You’re Losing Me is about, but I DO care if You’re Losing Me is about the same person Lover is about).

Joe Weaver

It's almost like connecting the dots on a TV show and it being satisfying when they pay off something from Season 2 in a Season 5 episode. And I think thats what Taylor wants us to do from what she says during the concert. Make it about something that matters to you, it doesn't matter if it doesn't apply to her anymore.

kayla ramoutar

i wanna say i think Chloe et all is about both Matty and Joe. and the "needing drugs more" is a double meaning — matty for the addiction; joe for his (presumably) anti-depressants. matty chose drugs/partying whatever; joe (again, presumably) chose to sit in his sadness (according to SLL & probably renegade). and she's going to wonder about both of them, separately, for the rest of her life. if they had chose things over her, would they have been together forever? was joe/matty The One if they had figured out their own shit? i think it's a really beautiful song that encapsulates both break ups.

Emma

The way I SCREAMED when tootd outro started playing outside the stadium

Brittany Fitzgerald

I totally don’t judge or care either way, but just for timeline sake, on the cheating discourse. Taylor and Joe met at Gigi’s bday party a few nights before the Met Gala in 2016, when she was still with Calvin. I think the party started technically on the 28th, but the 29th could just be after midnight. I always thought it was about Calvin and Joe. I never really considered it was about Tom. Tom and her danced a few days after that, and she stayed with Calvin a little longer after that. Guilty as Sin definitely seems MH coded, but agree it’s not obvious when. Either after a writing session together orr after she played their show in London before Eras? Idk 🤷🏼‍♀️

Brittany Fitzgerald

I relate to both songs very much though, so clearly no judgement 😂

Cara M

Idk how COSOSOM could be about anyone but Matty? All the references to a decade long interest/situationship, his known struggle with addiction, their relationship being cooler in theory then in reality, etc. And the “scarlet maroon” reference was definitely meant to make us think of Maroon. It’s just so specific i really don’t think she’d put it in there if she didn’t want us to make the connection. Maroon’s lyrics totally fit Matty too

Cara M

Agree, plus hi fidelity is a technical music/audio term that makes sense to reference for Calvin

Cara M

That’s crazy because i am obsessed with the outro

Kellie Mahoney

Yes! I love to read and that fact that her songs connect to one another feels like I’m reading this massive interconnected series or anthology 😂

Raven

“Why does it feel like a vow we’ll both uphold somehow” “do you really wanna know where I was April 29th, do you really wanna know how he brought me back to life…I was dancing around it” could be about the same people she knew Matty and Joe both for years and years. Could be about different people just similar concept they’re both about cheating or already have someone she’ll go to once a current relationship ends (emotional cheating aspect)

Raven

I’m not sure if it’s ALWAYS the fans making connections out of no where, in this instance she literally mashed them up and made the connection for us. We also love to say Taylor makes no mistakes, everything’s connected (word choice, location, timing) etc. until it doesn’t fit our narrative or version of Taylor that’s in our head. She’s a person, people are gonna make mistakes or do things that don’t “seem” like them but artists only show us about 5% of themselves and their lives so its safe to say they may do things we don’t wanna believe, more extreme versions of this are coming out and happening everyday about different artists.

Kim

To me high infidelity will always be about Taylor cheating on Calvin with Tom. I for whatever reason cannot apply it to any other situation that Taylor went trough, that we know of that is. I really do think Taylor really wrote some songs on Midnights with the writing prompt she presented the album to us in mind: "midnights throuout her life"