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SECRET SONG Reaction: New Orleans, LA (Night 2) + Chats (Patreon)

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2024-10-27 08:41:00
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Irynka

I was waiting for this video!!! Can’t wait to see your reaction to the chaos 😂

Eevi

This was INSANE for miss Swift to do

lucy lambert

yesss been waiting for this!!!! love you gals <3

khushi04

OH IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

kylinb

Stayed up til 3 am for this <3

V. Babida

The way I was losing my mind during this livestream!!!!!

cass

just clicked play and just haveeee to say you both are so seamlessly stunningly beautiful <333 so excited for this reaction, i was SHOOOK!

Noah

Love y’all so much 🫶

Weeroz_x

So I really thought she was going to do you’ll always find your way back home .Unpopular opinion I’d be mad if I got a Sabrina mash up as we here for Tay Tay 🫶🏻😅

Léa

I just woke up and im losing my mind !!! WHAT was that 🤯 im definitely scared for N3 and all the remaining shows

Kaitlin Hilton

there's a guy on youtube who's name is escaping me (starts with an A) who streams like tess but waaay clearer and without all the glitches. Maybe try that sometime

Hillary Smith

Watching on the Eurostar to Paris 🤗 woke up to frightful announcements and now so excited to have this for the journey ❤️❤️❤️

Daniela Alpizar

been waiting for this and now i can go to sleep when im done watching 😅

phoebe lam

probably reading too much into it but the timing for sabrina surprise is uncanny given that olivia has been getting more press guts tour is releasing on netflix soon and recently named touring aoty👀🤔. would die to ever have a NYD x 1sf3sb or cruel summer x deja vu mash

ton

Watching you guys before you see what’s coming is surreal! This is what I imagined Loverfest with friends might be like

Areeb Ebrahim

AND GUESS WHO WAS THERE. ON THE FLOOR. ME!! 😭😭😭😭

Lakshi

Rare gem to hear taylor sing a non-taylor song. Sounds SOO good!

Anna K

I’ve been at work singing Espresso all night and then this?! 😄😄💕

Amber

Chickens please please please can we bring back the perusing twitter like 30 mins after the surprise songs or something rather because i feel like especially coming to the end there will be speeches and moments that you might miss and we would love to see your reactions.

Nora

Girls I would love for you to go back to perusing twitter!! There's many update accounts that post things that I feel like you girls would love/often miss and it would be really nice! Thank you for all the hard work

Bellibel

Man, Emily is so funny! 😆 I just love her facial expressions when Bonny says something that blows her mind. Love you girls!

Tsveti

Joe and Kendall are completely incompatible, 2 different worlds, I don't see that at all.

natis_georce13

the heroine but this time with an e is a lyric cause people thought travis was taking drugs or something cause he was doing really well when she started coming to the games, but the drug is just her making him play better and impressing her. TN also post travis with it and its one of travis' fav songs its defs about him. like the football references are so obvious

Alexina Derkaz

Soooo happy I joined the Patreon!! Have you listened to Renee Rapp Snow Angel?

Lauren

the chaos that ensued in discord during that phone call moment 🤣 ALSO did you girlies notice she said Asia first in her lover speech today. Mother is watching you and said "and i oop" 🤣🙈

Emelie

Wait is kendall even single?

Mae 🇳🇱

Kind of same haha. Not mad but disappointed I think even though I loooooove Sabrina, the secret songs are such a special moment and if it were my only show I’d be a bit sad 😂

Emma Davidson

My impression of The Alchemy is that the first draft of the song was a Ratty Healy song and then as she went through everything she redrafted it to make it Travis coded.

Weeroz_x

Yesss I love sabrina too! But say with Ed’s mash up it was just the one song and it’s my fave part of the eras tour. She did this on red/1989/rep hasn’t really been a thing on eras 🤍

Liz

Emily’s cheerfully chaotic gemini energy is popping off in todays vid im liivvving i love yall so much 💀 the rep/debut cover conniption is so real

ton

Random thought…..is she planning to move away from New York …. Hits different?

Giel

I always interpreted the lyric "he jokes that its heroine but this time with an 'e'" as in that Travis is joking that she used to date a drug addict (Matty), but now that she is dating Travis its "heroine" (with an e) because Travis really admires Taylor.

Tal

I think you both would really love and appreciate Halsey's new album "The Great Impersonator" it's so raw and vulnerable. hope you'll react to it. every track is inspired by an artist she loves. so there's one song inspired by Stevie Nicks (and it sounds like Fleetwood Mac), another by David Bowie, Cher, Dolly Parton, Tori Amos, Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, PJ Harvey, Bruce Springsteen.. it's a really raw, emotional album of what Halsey's been through because she has been sick she thought she would not make it and she made this album thinking this could be her last album so she went into it doing what she wanted to make if it were her last album.

Cora

Loved the reaction 🫶🏼 While we’re at pronouncing Eras tour stops and you guys mastered New Orleans so well could you give Gelsenkirchen another try? 😂

Eevaliisa H.

Please react to Halseys new album! ❤️

natis_georce13

she met travis is ny for the first time so i think the mashup was a nod to that

Alexina Derkaz

I think it would be amazing if she announced Rep on the last date of the tour and led up to it by changing her Rep outfit every night leading up to it!!!

emma 🌷

i’m wondering if taylor will be on the short n sweet deluxe! i think that would be really cutee

lucy lambert

Also I was thinking about the gold outfit for 'I can do it with a broken heart' and I reckon she's saving it for the rep announcement! New gold rep outfit... and a gold TTPD outfit. I think she's gonna do gold outfits for the night of the drop.

Viktoria

Will you guys maybe watch GUTS TOUR on Netflix?

Emelie

That’s exactly how I take it!

Viktoria

Alsoo would love to see your reaction to Short and Sweet tour <3 There is full concert video on YT

Sleepymoo

“I just want her to do something she’s never mashed up before” Well, she definitely did that… I also love the waggy little tail in the background when you guys were getting super excited 🥰

Natalia

You definitely should read the whole stevie nicks interview!

Samantha

I feel like people are completely blowing the Joe/Kendall thing out of proportion. I’m not a fan of his, but the hate seems so forced. They were clearly at a work event. Also everyone seems to forget that Gigi & Kendall are good friends & no-one goes after Gigi!

Natalia

Also have you guys seen that she said karma is the guy on the chiefs on n3 in Miami even though Travis wasn't there because the chiefs won the game right before Taylor went on stage? I wonder if she's gonna do the same thing tonight

ton

Folkloric too

ton

Note… tomorrow is her 13th last show……

may el

have you guys fathomed that she has mashed up the black dog, haunted and exile all with each other? so interesting to fathom!! also its 1989s anniversary today so she will definitiely do a mashup dediacted to that <33

Emelie

Yeees! Hoping for sweeter than fiction on streaming too

Nin Reckermann

this is so Jack coded like the calling her, putting her on speaker phone in the mic and then later the "are we gonna do the thing?"

ton

I’m no longer sure she’ll announce the TVs during the tour since she announced the book and Anthology release just before the last show.

Inés Fernández A.

This surprise songs were unhinged and I loved every second of it. By the way, in the Stevie Nicks interview she mentions Travis by name saying that she sends cashmere blankets to her friends and that she send one to Travis. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we will live in a world where STEVIE F-ING NICKS WILL BE SENDING CASHMERE BLANKETS TO TAYLOR SWIFT’S NFL BOYFRIEND and she talks about it to Rolling Stone.

Liv

Everyone goes after Gigi 🤣

Liv

Taylor & Sabrina could release a single together. Not on either one’s upcoming albums but purely just a single. Thoughts ?

Roxana

Travis said the Alchemy and So high school are among his favourite songs so that tells a lot

Gianluca

loooove your chatty chats, more of that please please please. and would love to see more about stevie

Daniela Alpizar

did you guys ended up getting the midnights cardigan?

Renee

I could NOT handle both being announced I'd DIE The rumours about Joe honestly make me sick to my stomach but wouldn't surprise me unfortunately I wouldn't put it passed kendell though whole family is a mess And Matty i just want to talk

ton

Kendall’s meant to be dating a basketball player. Swifties outrage over reaction started from “just taking the photos” being a betrayal

Pia Sing

Something not Taylor related for post-eras-tour-depression-phase: Would you ever be up to do album breakdowns of Hozier? Seeing as we all eat up great lyricism it would seem like those would be good videos after the eras tour is over☺️ And for reactions: Griff's album Vertigo is really good and she is in the TSCU, so maybe...?😌

C

Regarding the vault tracks for Folklore and Evermore... couldn't Evermore already be an entire album of Folklore vault tracks like she did with TTPD??

MarkH

Bringing out Sabrina was so awesome! Usually I would stay up to watch the secret songs in real time, but I was too tired last night and it was great to watch it with you! I also wanted to plug the new Maren Morris song, People Still Show Up. Jack produced it, and he really goes all out! I like Maren Morris in a lowkey way, but this song is something really different for her. I am still thinking she announces rep TV at the end of the tour, with like a February or March release date, and then rep TV itself will build hype for debut TV. Yes, it won't be as big as rep TV, but the fact that it is the last one will build the anticipation.

LeahMcKellar

What also convinces me The Alchemy is about Travis is she said ‘the hospital was a drag,’ Joe was the slammer/prison not the hospital. Matty was the hospital/mental asylum. Also Travis said in a interview at some festival that his 3 favourite Taylor songs were So High School, The Alchemy and Blank Space.

ton

The Alchemy… think it’s written about being on tour mostly She uses comeback line in the opening shout outs of tour She talks about crowd Alchemy as an Easter egg in YOUR video N1 Las Vegas video pre MH and TK She’s touring in football stadiums So yes I think she updated with TK but first half is about crowds on tour for me

Megan

I really do think she's going to announce both Debut and Rep at the same time. I think outside of her fandom, debut wouldn't be as much of a big release. I think the new dresses which are basically a mash up of colours along with the debut and rep secret songs lately are all signs pointing to a double announcement. I also think she'll sing Cassandra the night she announces them because of some of the references in that song pointing towards the selling of her song collection.

Giel

about the lover/folklore/evermore vaults; I think there could be songs out there about matty healy and/or joe alwyn that she couldn't put on those albums because of her relationship with joe at the time. Since she is not in that relationship anymore she could release them now. Similar to how a lot of vault songs like nothing new, slut, all too well 10, i can see you weren't put on their original albums, but were able to be released as vault songs because times/things have changed for taylor.

Marie

Could you maybe react to Gracies bonus tracks? <3

Stuart

She could announce at the same time but the won’t release at the same time. She’s not going to ruin her number 1 streak, especially as debut is the only album of hers that didn’t go number 1

Megan

I agree that she won't release at the same time but I think it'll be announced at the same time and it's beneficial to her to do it while she's still on tour and everyone is still hyped up

ton

Thank you for hoping for spacing out the TVs more…. We need to take our time I feel Also that man is NOT Dylan Thomas 🤣

ton

I think the hospital was Covid cos she couldn’t tour and now she’s come back on tour so it’s about being on tour

Mary Cousins

Hahaha I would vomit on the f…… street. LOL I love you Bonnie.

Hollie

Huge YES to Stevie Nicks interview in full

claudia jones

maybe this is hinting at Sabrina being on vault tracks, i’d kind of love to hear Sabrina on a more country song (vault) for debut after hearing slim pickins !!!

ton

I think she’s meant to be dating a basketball player since she’s on a break from BB again

scar 🎀

the way my draw dropped to the fooor

claudia jones

I’m also not loving the idea of double realise/announcement as a swiftie who wasn’t here for debut I’m so excited to have a moment with debut and I think reputation will overshadow it !!! 💚🩵🖤💙

Bellibel

That’s what I also thought. Only difference I hope with debut she announces a recording documentary 🤞🤞

Kristin Kline

Matty talkin about “lore” meanwhile he has a band called The 1975, with a song and album called the goddamn 1975. He LIIIIIIVES for the lore of his own band. Kick rocks you punk!

ton

Do you think she’ll keep doing one Debut Rep mashup at each city as a bit of a giggle 🤣😳🤔

Bellibel

No, evermore songs were not written and rejected for the folklore album but songs written because they couldn’t stop writing.

Kiki

I think she teases Debutation and does those mash-ups because it keeps us on our toes and clowning which one will actually come first. If she only teased one it wouldn't be as exciting anymore ... Taylor is a mastermind at keeping us engaged with her

Laura Stimpfl

Omg yes please do read the Stevie Nicks interview!! I've also been waiting for a Fleetwood Mac breakdown since the first time you mentioned them, so that would be amazing too! ☺️

Elisabeth Rammerstorfer

I know it won't happen, but I keep thinking (or wishing) that the reason she didn't put Debut on the setlist, is because she is going to tour that album by itself, since she never went on tour with just that album, right?🤔 Or at least maybe do a one-night show, kinda like City of Lover to promote it? I know it's really unlikely, but I would just love to see that😅

Jaana

I don’t think she’ll release Rep and debut at the same time, it makes no sense to put them up competing with each other. Even announcing them at the same time feels a bit far fetched. I think the surprise songs may be giving us a hint about the order, debut first and Rep last. Announcing and releasing Rep after the tour makes sense since it’s the most anticipated re-release and would keep the fans talking even after the tour is done. I’m sure she’s already working on the next new album as well but I don’t think that’s going to be coming before fall 2025 or even in 2026.

Lola

The lyric « your heart is still reserved for me » I saw it like Travis came to see her in Kansas for her show, and didn’t get to give her the bracelet. But by the time she saw that podcast episode and decided to contact him, he may was like ok my heart is still reserved even though I got « rejected » the first time I wanted to meet you.

Kiki

Imagine her dropping Lover deluxe after the re-recordings are done 👀 and after that we could get evermore/folklore vault songs - she could call it woodvale 👀🤡

Mandi

I am so stumped. So, she kept saying, my new "dress" which totally gave Rep bc of the song dress obvi. Then, all the plaid - the Lover house has plaid wallpaper in the green room - which gives Debut. I have no idea what's going on. It's basically chaos.

Sarah

Ugh yeah he's sooo full of himself I don't think he's realized he's NOT Dylan Thomas lol

Sarah

I second this!! Just listened to them and they are sooo good!!

Yasemin Turner

My personal theory is that she will announce rep tv during one of the last shows, release in January then sometime next year announce debut tv alongside a re-recording documentary. I no longer think we’re getting a standalone making of eras documentary but that eras will be incorporated into the rerecording documentary (makes sense shes re-living her past while rerecording and reviving them on tour)

Reign

i always thought of the ‘heart still reserved for me” line in reference to his known crush on her considering all the interviews he did that were found from before they were a thing 😬

Lefty

Have y'all noticed that like...the MOMENT something important starts happening on the live stream, it starts pausing and lagging? UGH. I was actually thinking recently that it was great when she used to do covers of other songs so this was really cool to see. She absolutely rocks any song she covers and makes it her own, I would love her to do more performances on shows like she used to. Let's face it, Taylor has a deep love for stringing us along at this point so I can not see Debut and Rep being announced at the same time, much less released at the same time. I was considering recently the idea of a complete vault album from Taylor, a release that has all the vault tracks from every album (perhaps including unreleased Folklore/Evermore stuff). "Taylor Swift: The Vault" sounds cool to me

Rose Ellen

Somehow managed to not have any spoilers for this before I watched your reaction! So fun!!

Rose Ellen

I like to think the new surprise song dresses are a nod to the mashups because they’ve got different colours together.

Sarah

You're so right! We never could have seen this coming, imagine a time traveler telling us that back in like 2016 or something lmao no one woulda believed it 🤣

Rose Ellen

I love how we all know how unhinged Taylor is. She loves to keep us on our toes and we never truly know what she’s going to do next.

Emma

Please please please react to Gracie’s Deluxe and her Vevo short film she did

ton

I’m assuming the Taylor Swift anniversary is 1989 TV that TN is referring to (although there have been lots in the past week)…. So is it a DELUXE TV with sweeter than fiction…. Might explain all of the blue in dresses we’ve been getting!

Inés Fernández A.

Love the chats after the reaction going through the comments of the previous night and getting caught up. It’s so natural, please keep doing it.

Bobhog

Nah, I think she's just trolling us with both rep and debut hints to keep us on our toes, make it fun for us.

Bobhog

And also, please halsey reaction! <333

Grady Tadman

would you guys want to react to Halsey’s new album?

Lola

One thing about the « random Australian girls »😭 I started watching your videos when the folklore reaction came out. I’m not an English native speaker so I tend to absorb accents/ways of talking depending on what I’m watching/listening to. Tell me why, when I went to the eras tour in Paris, an American girl that was with me on the merch line told me that I had an australian accent 😭😭😭 and you too are the only Australians I’m watching so I guess I took a bit of your accent😭

Gemma

I was having thoughts the other day about the re-records. This could be something that happens now throughout her career, re-recording albums to give it a new context. In 10 years time we may have a re-recording of midnights with more vault tracks that allow us to refathom things and recontextualise song meanings. She could do it with every single album she ever does. It would also make sense to do it with Lover because it never had its proper moment to shine due to the pandemic ❤️

Kelli

Swift Alert did name the first new dress as “Beta Fish”

Lola

For the re records, she has until August 2025 to release them because if not she is losing the trademark Taylor Swift (Taylor’s version) and Reputation (Taylor’s version). She extended it 5 times and by extending it a 6th time which is legally the last, she’ll have the trademark until August 2025. So maybe that’s why people think that she may release them both at the same time, or close one to another, because she doesn’t have that much time spacing them 🤔

C

I didn't mean they were written with Folklore in mind and rejected. But she said herself that Evermore only happened because they couldn't stop writing, so I took that to mean she started writing with Folklore in mind but ended up writing so much that not all song could fit into one album, hence the need for another one - Evermore. None of the TV releases had enough "vault" songs to make it into an entire new album. As the girls said, The Anthology is essentially all the vault songs for TTPD but it could've also been considered a sister album had she released them months apart like with Folkmore. Just a thought 😊

Lola

But I also think that business wise, she won’t do that and at least space them as much as she can so that people can thrive from the 2 very different albums (and so that would mean better sales)

Lelia Wagner

would absolutely love to hear more about Stevie Nicks from you two! ❤️

Heida

I DIED. DEAD. RIP ME.

tia martin

"couch rant" as a new format please? need

Cecilia Sparke

Could the still reserved for me lyric be referencing the interview with Travis where he was asked who he'd marry, kiss or kill and he wanted to kiss Taylor?

Hollie

I’m really really hoping double announcement doesn’t happen. I’m excited for the rep vault but I think self titled with her mature vocals is going to slay. It deserves its time to be properly appreciated without being overshadowed.

Kaeden

I would love for her to bring Olivia out bc her tour just ended and the movie but ik it would never happen 🥲

Carly

I think it’s completely possible that The Alchemy was originally a Matty song, but she’s since reframed the meaning when performing live. We’ve acknowledged how she’s done that with Joe songs since performing them after the breakup during the surprise set. I’m not convinced enough by the trophy allegory personally.

Samantha

They totally could be and I’ve just not seen it! But it does seem to get loud any time Joe does something these days. She’s so clearly moved on, I find it a bit weird people are still checking for him & getting upset on her behalf is all.

Eirini

GUYS! We already have a Lover vault track, and don’t get me started about Need, I actually need that on streaming! AND I completely agree on the lyric in Guilty as sin, it lives rent free on my mind

Maddie

I think “the sign on your heart says it’s still reserved for me” is a reference to having her suite at all the football games reserved for her

Joan Chan

Would love for you chickens to react to Sabrina’s tour!!

Trish 1387 🫶🏼🏈

The smallest man is using Mother to promote his upcoming smallest album. He is an oxygen thief knowing people will click on for Taylor content in this whiny little boy, throw the dummy out of the cot, boring put me to sleep 💤 interviews.

Karen

I believe the ‘Lower case inside a vault’ lyric is definitely about folklore and evermore era’s. Despite everything I truly believe she was very loved up with Joe during reputation and I don’t think there was room for any other love interests during that era. They were still in the honeymoon phase, I think him and their relationship at the time was enough inspiration for all of reputation. Folklore and evermore is when cracks started in their relationship and that’s when she started daydreaming about Matty again.

Samantha

That’s what I’ve always thought too! Like a bit of time had passed between the KC show and the podcast coming out, so maybe she wasn’t sure he’d still be interested.

Lola

Yeah exactly !!

Ella

Can we have a moment for Taylor Nation briefly sending me into a meltdown with their comment last night about having a special anniversary to celebrate at N3, then realising 10 seconds later that it’s 99% likely to be 1989 they are referring to rather than debut! They really had me for a second there and they knew what they were doing 🤣 Also I will forever be mourning the fact that debut hasn’t got its own eras tour section 😭😭😭 I was holding out hope she might add it in but it seems soooo unlikely that would happen now this late in the tour. Glad she’s playing debut songs more now in the surprise section though!

Sarah

Girls, are you going to react to The Secret of Us Deluxe? 🩵

Maddie

It’s 100% a red blooded American Travis song

Sarah

Or maybe Taylor is going to be on Short’n’sweet deluxe?

Sarah

Love that take!

Tal

I saw some discussions of swifties who think part of why The Alchemy is about ratty is because The Alchemy is part of the "original 16 tracks" (not the anthology) which would mean the song had to be written before the album could be sent to vinyl production, which is a quite a few months process. so they say the song couldn't possibly be on the original TTPD cause it means she wrote it before she met Travis and now she's re-purposing it. hence why So High School is about Travis because she could've written and add it to the anthology because there was no anthology vinyl till now. I don't care either way. to me, this song is about Travis and they can keep thinking it's about the rat. to me it's a Travis song.

Kell

I almost screamed when you said you were guessing she was going to play Peter because I guessed that she would play that! I also can't believe how long Taylor's gone without playing a red song. I've been thinking of what mashups she could do to tick a few of the songs she hasn't mashed up yet off Em's list. I would love a Girl at Home x New Romantics mashup "So don't look at me, you got a girl at home and everybody knows that, everybody knows that, ah-ah ah ah ah ahh - So baby I could build a castle out of all the bricks you threw at me... etc". I don’t know if this one would work quite as well but what if she did Peter x Only the Young maybe closer to the election with "Said you were gonna grow up then you were gonna come find me, words from the mouths of babes promises, oceans deep but never to keep -> It keeps me awake the look on your face the moment you heard the news... etc". Both have the reference to growing up so I feel like it would be an interesting combo. I'm living for the Debutation clowning but I agree with you guys that it doesn't seem like a smart business move to announce them or release them at the same time.

Jennifer Sweeney

My theory is her doing these surprise songs for debut and reputation at the same time is just to throw us off so we don’t know which one she’s releasing. She’s having a good time messing with us. She will just announce one at the end of the tour.

Liv

The cameras following her out of the stadium the last few nights makes me think we are getting a documentary

Jordan

The alchemy is clearly about Matty guys. It’s bacually just fresh out the slammer rephrased… she can recontextualise it but she wrote it about Matty

CamilleC

The alchemy is like the rest of the album about different situations same feeling to me, she could feel that wow finally i'm out of my rs and everything is working then it didn't with Matty but she felt the same with Travis and worked that song with a new lens a new love. To me the album is very like that "what muse the fans will make of my songs" (she's part of it Imo but it must be exhausted at times ) it's a lot about the fans even in the epilogue she talks about "a case of restriction humanity". I even wonder if the first line isn't about the fans "hey what if i told you i'm back" back to me, back to be bejeweled, back to be happy ?

CamilleC

PS : no debutation in this house, she's just teasing like she's being doing for 2+ years, remember all the purple and blue everywhere. Fans downplay Debut success soooo much it's a huge cult classic a lot of fans came on board in the country years. And if she can make statics noises number one (10 years ago) today she can release anything, i mean Tim McGraw and Our song alone will rock the charts

Cassandra

Please watch the clip of Travis talking about the rep body suit!!!

Savvy

I would love the full Stevie Nicks interview reaction !!

Alaska Sweetmore

In my personal opinion, Debutation makes sense as a double release because both albums are so similar in vibe. Genre, no, but vibe. After all, Debut was the birth of Taylor's career and Reputation was the rebirth of her career after her cancellation. They are both such pivotal anchor points to her career as a whole. Plus, they both give off the same kind of energy, sending the message of "I've been on the outside looking in and I refuse to stay there. Pay attention to me because I have things to say." Having them release side by side both highlights how consistent that she has been in her convictions while also showcasing how much she grew from point A to point B. Releasing both of them at the same time sort of marks the end of the rerecordings as a celebration of the whole process. Plus, just imagine how slay a double announcement would be and the image on the back of the screen is a split photo where one half of her face is Debut Taylor tinted blue and the other half is Rep Taylor tinted green. Then the albums are released and the covers are the full individual images. That would be a huge slay. Plus, it would make for an amazing business decision because she could build up hype for both albums by talking about how she is ultimately still the same girl that she was back in Debut era and say something like "The reason there is no Debut era is because I'm still that girl, always. I was that girl back then, I was that girl when I wrote Reputation and I'm that girl now." Swifties everywhere would EAT THAT SHIT UP. 🦋🐍

Johnn Emblem

My thoughts for a long time has been she may have started The Alchemy or wrote a few lines she liked while she was with Matty and either came back to the concept or finished the song with Travis in mind. That’s what makes sense in my mind for why some lines match Matty but then the whole football metaphor which is to much a coincidence if it’s not referencing Travis. Just my long rambling thoughts though 😂

Jordan

THIRTEEN shows left. It’s about to be crazy. Also she better put Sweeter Than Fuction on streaming for 1989s anniversary

Samir

Would love for you guys to perhaps enter your Florence era and react to her pandemic album ‘Dance Fever’! I love the album and think she did a great job commentating on that time about isolation and the need for music, especially live music!

Emily P

Are you guys reacting to the new Halsey album? Would love to hear your thoughts on it!

paulina ⭐️

re recording is one thing but we are technically also awaiting documentary, right? after book and wrap up. do we think she will do two separate documentaries one about eras another about re recordings? that seems like a lot of projects between end of eras and ts12 🤔

Sophie

Is the folklore vault not just evermore itself?

PbPlaysInside

I think she is teasing that she's announcing the release dates for Debut and Reputation during the tour, not so much at the same time. I'm convinced that she's announcing the release date (my guess Feb.) for Debut on the N3 Indianapolis before her week break. Then after a trail of hints leading to the last show of the Eras Tour or N1 of the final weekend she'll announce the release date for Reputation (Rep summer?). Or, she could announce them during the last show of the Eras Tour at the same time and I would die dead. Please read us the whole Stevie Nicks interview!!!

Maria

Im sorry, but as a long term 1975 fan this is so hilarious to me bc we’re so used to Matty being like this this and saying and doing inappropriate things 🙈🙈 Not that it makes it ok, but its like yeah thats just Matty haha. Rip

Martha

Yessss Stevie Nicks! I've been waiting for the Fleetwood Mac breakdown for soooo long 😩🤩

Hyla Sorenson

Regarding The Alchemy, Travis has also listed it as one of his favorites along with So High School.

Hazel

Needed to hear that Matty Healy rant, thank youuuuu! He’s so predictable!!

Hyla Sorenson

""sometimes she just give fish doesn't she?" Bonny, you crack me up!!!

Daniel K

Okay, I’m less than two minutes in, and I ADORE the chaos. Honestly, I hope you both know how funny and watchable you are even when just waffling. ♥️

Nele

Thank you, I deeply needed that rant about Matty's interview. The smallest man is becoming microscopic at this point 💀

Nina

Yessss react to more Stevie!! And also The Secret of Us Deluxe album!!🩵🩵🩵🩵

Lauren Lapierre

Pleaseeee react to the secret of us deluxe 🙃🩵

Jessica Tucker

Taylor had announced prior to ttpd even being announced that she had written two songs about falling in love with Travis. The “what if I told you I’m back” my immediate take on her with him was- she’s not dating UK guys anymore it had been YEARS since she last dated an American boy. She’s back in America with this all-American boy. She sang it after saying “this is my 87th show ( his number) sooo many football references. It has to have been the very first song she wrote about them.

Alexa

The Hits Different x WTNY could also be a leaving London -> going home to New York situation…like what Bonny said about Red to 1989 but instead a different situation

Natty Vee

If you guys aren't familiar with Little Mix's music, I would love to see you guys give them a listen. I think you'd love their music, especially their albums Salute, LM5 and Glory Days. Also I think it would be so cool if you guys did a video about different Australian artists you have enjoyed throughout your life (e.g for me Delta and The Veronicas were my biggest Aussie music influences growing up in the 2000s)

Sam

Literally anyone else>>>> matty

vlada

I have an insane wild theory. Idk if I should call it a theory, it's more of an idea that I have for myself and also maybe something I would make if I were in Taylor's shoes. And that is an WHOLE VAULT ALBUM! An album that only consists of vaults from several different albums. In my head, if this is something that actually exists (thou the chances are slim) then she was planing it from the start or at least from 2021 when she noticed the success of the re-recordings. This album concept would be very intiguing for me. Like, imagine if she saved the best vault(s) from each album for the very last moment before the whole re-recordings/eras era is over. This would be such a Mastermind move in my opinion.

Renee S Smith

No way its about Matty after The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived. Taylor also clearly told Travis it was about him. And that would be cruel if it wasn't true.

Jalen O’Grady

I would love to hear what you guys have planned post eras tour and re-records

Kristin

This makes sense because during one of the early shows, long before TTPD, she said something about the alchemy of a crowd. I think “what if I told you I’m back” is about returning to touring, “child’s play back in school” is about a young love being given another go, then obviously the football references are her new relationship. Happens once every few lifetimes…

Renee S Smith

When Fortnight was recorded Post and Taylor talked about Travis.

khushi04

short n sweet tour reaction pls girlies!!!

Aime

Are you going to react to Posts country album?!

Rebecca

Queen Stevie article reaction please, please, please!

Chez

Pleaseeeeee can you react to The Great Impersonator by Halsey?

Renee

please read the entire Stevie interview!

CAM

On Matty: I'm clowning that he is responding to her making it casual and a fortnight, when it wasn't. And that his album will not be on a casual Romantic fling.... But a 2-3 year long thing coming. Also, I listened to the whole podcast. He's definitely trolling her, but it feels cheeky. So we will see. He said that he's not doing press for he album, and will only talk about things on the stage, so I'm so curious.

Renee

Please talk about Taylor throwing a football and yelling touchdown during midnight rain “on tv” pose

Tal

Oh, I know. I'm with the group who thinks The Alchemy is about Travis. Just wanted to share what I've seen other swifties who believe it's about the rat.

Jess P

I think that if she does announce either of the re-records on the last night of tour it would be debut. Kind of like you were saying about her worrying it might not perform on its own, I think it would be better then to announce when still on tour. Rep will perform fine without that type of announcement. Also I saw people talking about how the debut room in lover house is plaid when she does the lover set so idk

Phoebe 🌷

I commented yesterday but I don't think she'll do debut and rep at the same time it would just be such weird behaviour. I think the mash ups between debut and rep songs could hint more at the order she will release them, as each time she's played the debut song first and then rep second. Completely praying with you that she doesn't do a debutation 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Laura Mowle

I would love it if you did a reaction to Stevie Nicks.

Beau Maddox

I just will put this here - IMO if she does release debut and rep on the same day it’s because she wants to release TS12 in the somewhat near future - she knows Taylor fatigue is real for people (not us clearly) It makes me think of her Grammys speech where she said “I’m just loving making music, sue me”

Anna K

The Alchemy always felt like a half finished song that she repurposed/reworked by adding in the sports metaphor. The “original” bits seem vague enough to either be taken as Travis-coded or a message to the fans in order to sell it. To me, it feels like two different songs she mashed into one. Like maybe it started as a MH song and then she changed her mind half way through. Lol

Christine Violet

Will you guys be reacting to the Gracie deluxe songs?!?!

ShaunaJ

I think the Alchemy is about Travis too. I think it's a reflection on falling in love. The first verse is early in thier relationship. So much of it being long distance because she was touring and they were barely public. "the hospital"- I think after intense weekends, high heat, rain etc she may spend a few days in a high end hospital with IV nutrients to recover sometimes. "Circled you on a map" She is all over the place but keeps her eye on where he is and the goal of seeing him again. She is now recovered physically from performing and 'coming back strong' to see him. "told you we're cool"- maybe they had a small spat or something and its hard to repair when long distance. She's saying forget that- it doesn't matter. I belong with you and I'm flying back to you whenever I can. Then of course the football and trophy lyrics being very Travis coded. Just my thoughts. Can be interpreted many ways.

Kelsi Ford

another vote for the stevie interview!! i’ll DIE the day yall review her/their music 😍

Julia

I was there! Section 543... What was that in my life?! Help. Rip... Blisters on my feet but the best time ever.... First Taylor ever! I'm not understanding how I just saw Sabrina for the first time ever too! 🫶💜💛💚

Miantsa

I don’t like attaching specific people to her songs because in my mind it’s all fluid - ESPECIALLY with her more recent albums/releases. I take it more as one song conveying a specific feeling that could have been inspired by multiple people at different times in her life. That being said, I do believe she probably started writing The Alchemy before meeting Travis, but then continued the process and revisited this song to make it what it is now. I personally adore The Alchemy, no matter who it’s about 😍 the vibes are just Hitting me like white wine 🤩🤭🤭✨

Nele

I am with the people asking you to react to the secret of us deluxe (and also the affiliated album short film because the arrangement of I love you I'm sorry in it is deeply concerning) 🤌

sumnoxquedies

for the alchemy discussion - I always take 'haven't come around in so long' as coming back home to the US and the 'sign on your heart' as travis has stated prior to having a crush on her, like do those feelings still exist - the heroin w/ an e for me is instead of the drug to get high, it's this love or her that get's them/him high

Rhonda

Kendall and Joe…..to be a fly on the wall for that boring ass conversation!!!! Lol

Rhonda

Stevie!!!!! Yes!!!

Jennifer

The glitches on his stream tonight were MUCH worse than on Tess’s stream.

Rhonda

Alchemy….she indicates she is benching the blokes. Travis also had a crush on Taylor for a long time as well!! Marry, kiss, or kill me was many years ago. He always had a thing for her and just never reached for the stars!

Sarah✨️

Please please please (see what I did there) go up to 3x in your next merch drop!

Christine Violet

Am I the only one that thinks it’s weird to do a song that is entirely about a different city? My brain hates it lol 😝

SomDrum

I can't imagine Taylor announcing Debut and Rep together, but since we are nearing the end of the tour I think it's more likely that she's building the hype and excitement for BOTH because they'll be announced and released next year. This is the moment she gets to see and interact with her audience in person, so I think she's making the most of that even if the announcements won't happen while she's on tour. Also, would love you to react to Gracie's deluxe album!! Her new songs have been on REPEAT on my phone since they came out!

Christine Violet

Or maybe it’s about the fact that he wanted to see her after the first concert and give her his number, but she didn’t see him?

Andree

The debut/rep mash up on N1 New Orleans was her trolling fans for ‘debutation’ theories! ‘Call it what you want’

Andy Silva

you guys definitely need to talk about Stevie's interview ♥️. As for the alchemy when she says "the sign in your heart is still reserved for me" that means sign 87 plus her 13, adding up to 100, so the space for 13 is still reserved (I saw this theory on some YouTube channel, but I don't remember which one, because I saw a lot of theories lol). Guys, when she makes the pun about heroin, it's because at the beginning some presenters made jokes about him being doped in her presence because he plays better when she's at the games. And when she says "I'll come back so strong" I understood it but how she has been through so much but she survived it all and will come back stronger and when she says "I'm going back where I belong" it's because she has boyfriends with English guys for so long, then it's back to the United States.

shedaris

I'm a strong believer that Alchemy is about Matty, but because of the coincidence of the metaphor and fandom's immediate assuming that it's about Travis, Taylor just leaned in to it (and Taylor Nation by extension).

Madeline

Since you’re listening to Kelsey Ballerini, Maisie peters opens for her next here, did you listen to the deluxe of the good witch? Do you like it?:)

SomDrum

I also would just feel slightly sick for Debut if it were released or announced at the same time as Rep. Rep is obviously going to have so much hype around it, and I feel like people just forget about Debut or discard it because it was her first album. As someone who grew up on that album in my teens I really want her to have her day in the sun.

Martina

Pleaseee do a deep dive on stevie lore

Dixchha

yes please, I love a reading session

Madeline

“MAYBE SHES TEASING A FISH ERA”- HAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣

David

I would buy the posters without hesitation

Sacred_sunflower

Emilyyyyyy I love you craaazzzyyyyy 😽 energgyyyyy eeeee

Lauren

The Stevie interview is iconic. You definitely need to react!

Kathleen George

Couldn’t the alchemy be about Travis and that one verse the fans …. Maybe

Megan C

Help! Now you convinced me that debut and rep won't be released together. I'm changing my prediction to Rep and Karma double album. The Entertainment Tonight quote from Tree (I'm guessing) a few weeks ago said she'll be releasing "new music" and maybe it's Karma! 🧡

Kathleen George

Omg your commentary on it lol Emily’s face perfect

Aly

Yes I am sat for the Stevie interview! I also think it would be so cool to do a re-fathoming of some Fleetwood Mac songs

Aly

On The Alchemy, I’ve always wondered if “the sign on your heart says it’s still reserved for me” could be referring to the fact that she didn’t want to meet him first, but then when she reached out to him later, she could’ve said something like giving “if you’d still meet me…” or “hope I’m not too late…” energy

cara

Not sure if anyone else has suggested either of these- but I would love to see a Secret of Us deluxe reaction, and also a gracie tour reaction! Is it too early in your timezone to watch gracie’s opening set for taylor? She’s really doing some offensive things vocally

Zosia Dabrowski

I always interpreted it as referring back to when he said in interviews that Taylor Swift was his celebrity crush and he did that marry kiss or kill game!

Amanda Christon

Love a pop culture reflection moment at the end of the reactions <3

Crystal Kit

Are they not watching the full shows anymore? I thought for sure they’d react to the throwing the football & the “touchdown” of the first 2 nights in the little midnights section of “and he never thinks of me…except when I’m on tv” ALSO on threads we’re clowning that tonight she’ll do a Travis kelce touchdown celebration dance because the first 2 we’re throwing the football, yelling touchdown & now need celebration plus it’s national tight end day (4th Sunday in Oct. I’m US)

Kathleen George

Can you discuss what you do see happening …. Don’t you think something is coming? And what about the theory she will tack on an LA show at the end and do something big to end the tour

Kevin A Francis

My Alchemy theory, for what it's worth: It is about two things intertwined together because they are together. Firstly going back on tour, and secondly meeting Travis on the tour. All the lines map to one or the other of these, with starting the tour at the start and Travis at the end, as would make sense.

Kate Harney

I would love you guys to be in you Stevie era! She says some incredible things about being a woman in the industry

masonwhitaker13

I just wanted to mention how Taylor asks Sabrina to “get off the roller coaster” that she’s on to come perform. When she brought Gracie out the first time, the wrote a collab together shortly after. “Roller Coaster” fits the conversation but it also seems out of place. What if they wrote a song called Roller Coaster??

Jessica

Have the girls seen the new pictures of Taylor celebrating her 33rd birthday in New Orleans when she apparently recorded fresh out the slammer, Florida and WAOLOM?

Ashley

I really think things changed after Vienna— she WAS saving i did something bad and she WAS planning a new outfit— she may have scrapped anything that should would have had to publicly promote during that time because it would have looked bad if she had all these shows cancelled and a terror threat but then was asking ppl to pre order a vinyl. Rep may now just come closer to debut cuz of it!

Katelynn Maloney

Have you guys seen the new midnight rain poses???

Alessa Hampel

Personally I think The Alchemy starts out being about Matty but then "transforms" into being about Travis because alchemy is the art/science of turning something into gold. So in my mind it's like... she first had Matty which was obviously not great, but it led her to Travis, which is a love that feels golden to her.

Candice Plendl

Okay so I was sat outside the stadium this night but could NOT stomach paying $1500 resale for obstructed views so I left for the French quarter instead and when I saw Sabrina came out, I was distraught

Shyla Hoffpauir

PLEASE react to the new Halsey album 😭🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Sandra Hayslette

As soon as I saw this last night my first thought was, “Bonny and Emily are gonna freak out.” 😂

Britt & Tori

I also thought, because Travis has had like a celebrity crush on Taylor for so long.. like.. does he still really like her? But I really like Aly's interpretation

Shyla Hoffpauir

I SECOND THIS. They need to see how much Gracie is GROWING 🥹

Ashley

NOOOO please re fathom!! the alchemy is def about HER and her career but explaining it in terms of a sports career!! It’s basically her saying she’s THE GOAT! Like sports ppl would!! She’s the greatest in the league 🫶 it’s why she plays it at the end of the show and our hearts are reserved for her, the fans, even tho we haven’t seen her tour in so longggg

Gosia Buzzanca

Toronto and Vancouver the last two stops of the tour that she keeps repeating were handpicked by her make TV. Also the video of her and Jack talking about “deep fall” a while back. Canada starts in November x

Hannah Proctor

I can't see her announcing them at the same time either, preorders are too important to first week sales and announcing both at the same time WILL force a lot of people into choosing one preorder over the other. I guess there's potential for singles to be interspersed, like with wildest dreams and this love, but two albums being available for pre order at the same time is too risky for our taycapitalist

Scott Cleverly

How could a football coded song about her flying back to see Travis's football games not be about Travis? We don't use the term blokes in the US (unless we are talking about a couple of English dudes that are being benched). Also The Alchemy tells us she is ok after the Matty (The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived) saga. Who knows, maybe So High School isn't about Travis either.

Alyssa P

This is further down the line but I think the Toronto shows are gonna be professionally live streamed. TN and Taylor herself have been nodding towards the people watching online and there was a tweet that the stadium in Toronto paid $8M to upgrade their network. Curious !!!! Could that be when we get some sort of special announcement?

Becky Tucker

I don’t believe the alchemy is about Travis because it’s TOO on the nose… just because it’s about football doesn’t mean it wasn’t written before Travis, and now applied to Travis

Britt & Tori

I think the alchemy is about 3 different situations and it's about Travis at the end The first verse is her leaving england and coming back to touring The second verse is her coming back to Matty The bridge and the last verse are her coming back to Travis after not talking to him the first time he reached out

Nancy

No but she literally said "can you believe this is the 87th show of the eras tour 😏" and IMMEDIATELY went into the alchemy It's so funny to me that people deny that the alchemy is about Travis. Even if some of the lyrics feel strange for him, she is making it SO SO obvious.

Becky Tucker

You’re spot on… It’s way too on the nose to have been written ABOUT Travis

Nancy

Idk if you guys have heard the deeper well bonus tracks yet but they're definitely worth a listen, They're really interesting and different to the rest of the album

Rianne van Ladesteijn

What if she adds an announcement to the end of the documentary that we all think is coming 🤔

Amanda H

loved the chats!!!

Ivana

Alchemy… I have a theory about “sign on your heart”. She has been his celebrity crash for a long time. His heart has been reserved for her for years and he had a courage to do something about it when opportunity occurred at Eras tour. It is a song after The smallest man. It is not about MH. ❤️

imogen

i know you said sabrina isnt right for rep or debut vault trackks but honestly with her rleasing slim pickins i think shes yeehaw enough for a little debut track, also we gotta remember that debut is gonna sound soooo different bc taylors not so yeehaw anymore

Hannah

TWO THINGS TO DISCUSS: 1. Is Taylor hinting at Debut being next with the plaid outfits because the debut room in the lover house on the tour has plaid wallpaper?? 2. I’ve seen people compare Taylor’s new surprise song dresses with the colors of each flavor of the Accelerator energy drinks Travis loves and drinks on the podcast all the time. It’s pretty wild. Each dress matches a flavor EXACTLY! Seems like a bit of a stretch, but at this point I can’t put anything past her!

Dominika

Completely agree!! I feel like The Alchemy uses the sport metaphor because of Travis, but it's painting a way bigger picture applying to her career as well as Travis' - "WE been on a winning streak", like they are both the greatest in their own league!

imogen

TS12 being a FISH era NAURRRRRR I CANT, you two little silly energies

Alyssa Kay

Have you heard Travis and Jason talk on their podcast about Jason going to Miami Eras Tour? Oh also have y’all read or watched Glamour’s Mother of the Year? It’s Selena’s mom, Billie’s mom, Beyoncé’s mom, and Travis’ mom!

Courtney Schmidt

My friend and I are going to Indianapolis this weekend, shes going to N1 and I am going to N2! She just made me fathom that the shows are Nov 1, 2 and 3! She is an Exile stan and thinks that "Exile will end" because it ends in 3,2,1...thoughts? If she get Exile, she will be on the floor needing CPR 🤪 I think the 1,2,3 lines up with the Rep chant and has to mean something 🤡 🖤 bahh! Anyways getting so pumped for my show and spending the whole weekend with my Swiftie community! I'll be repping my 13 YCL necklace 😘 from these 2 random Aussie girls collection 😉 Also, the daylight spectrum theory with her new surprise song dresses, daylight savings time ends on Nov 3 🤔

Hannah Proctor

Also I get why tonight was cool for people there but I can't help but think like, does she know she still has some completely unperformed/unmashed up tracks still to play and she's out here playing espresso and pleasex3?? Give us Renegade or that's when on girl at home taylor!

Ymkje

I would love it if you read the Stevie Nicks interview. Also, I kinda think that the ‘your heart is still reserved for me’ in the alchemy is about how Travis has been saying that Taylor is his celebrity crush, and in the KMK he choose her for the kiss. And eventough she has been in many relationships while he has been saying those things, he is still open to dating her.

Laura Mowle

Stevie is on CBS Sunday Morning!!! She’s amazing!

Andrew

I don’t think she is teasing a double announcement. I think she is heavily teasing both to keep us on our toes of which will come first.

Analice

I believe the Alchemy is about Taylor and about Travis. Like "I haven't come out in so long but I'm making a comeback to where I belong" being about tour and of course the football metaphors also being relationship metaphors. The "The sign on your heart says it's still reserved for me" I read it as like, he did the bracelet thing and then a good time after the podcast came out and they started talking so she is questioning like "hey so I know this happened, is your heart still reserved for me?" you know? And come on she really has made it about him on tour, she sang it in the 87 show, it's top 3 for Travis, it is totally about him!

Andrew

Also, anxiously awaiting the album reactions for the ones listed in the vmas reaction video!!

MJ

The only thing that confuses me about the alchemy and Travis is that the timing wouldn’t make sense for the Super Bowl to have already happened. She announced TTPD the week before it and the vinyls must’ve already been pressed so that lyric must’ve been written well before any of the playoff games. I do still think it’s about him though bc I think if she did coincidentally have a football metaphor song about Matty, she would’ve scrapped it after being with Travis.

Britt & Tori

I would die to get Need as a lover vault track!!!

Abby J

Any thoughts on the recent talks about how the Debut room in the Lover house on tour has plaid wallpaper? With all the plaid she’s been wearing lately is there a link or does she just really like plaid? 😂

shedaris

Also a thing to keep in mind, ttpd had to be ready MONTHS before it came out, if not half a year before because of vinyl pressings and physical copies. Which means that Alchemy would have had to have been written when T and Travis were only a couple of months into dating AND before the superbowl (which you think she references in the bridge)

Ottie Rose

Nahhhh I think the Alchemy is definitely about Travis. Maybe she had originally started writing it for Matty, like small portions of it, but realized it wasn’t a song for him. Kinda like how she’s going through old songs like on Lover and realizing Travis fits it sooo much better. I took the heroin/heroine comment as her pointing out the stark contrast between Travis and Matty and how she’s no longer with someone who would make a heroin joke because Travis is a superior man. And Travis has said before that Taylor was his celebrity crush so I took it as years later his heart was still reserved for her (reminds me of So High School kmk vibes). I think Bon’s point of a long distance relationship makes sense too. I love it and it only gives me Travis vibes❤️💛

Takara

I think Keith is free for Indianapolis shows 👀👀👀

LindseyMarie

Regarding the Alchemy, I think the “joking that it’s heroin” line makes sense for Travis because he is always cracking jokes and it’s like he’s taking a dig at Matty. As for a Stevie reaction, I’d love to hear you all talk about her and educate us about her since it’s clearly something you’re passionate about. I love hearing you both talk about anything that you’re excited about. Thanks for YOUR superior energy🫶🫶

Jentallygirl

Ok girlies! I say this with 100% L-O-V-E 😻… you two little chickens are so stressed about the idea of a combined Debut/REP announcement OR release bc you’re thinking waaay too basic about the concept, lol. I don’t know precisely what she’ll do, but I DO know everything she has done to surprise us in the past has been like 89 steps 😜 ahead of our mere peasant brains! 😂 That said, here are a few things I personally think will be a factor: 1. There’s too many exciting ways Taylor may want to end the Eras Tour to smash it all into ONE single last show… I think she’s gonna use most of the Canada shows to work in a TON of exciting surprises, like bringing out Sabrina, for example! 🙌💕 2. And along that line, Em I think you need to start preparing for a lot of mashups/whatever featuring a lot MORE of her most special and iconic songs that have already been played many times, and a lot LESS of her “checking off “ those final songs that are clearly more obscure… we’ll grieve with you! ❤️ 3. If Canada becomes the “goodbye Eras” era 😉 , then I think she’s gonna make a BIG deal of the LAST show in the US (Indy N3)… it’s coming up fast, and I do think it’s part of this REP TV energy she’s taunting us with right now (IDSB x 2 and obviously the new bodysuit FINALLY). Actually, since she has so clearly focused our attention on REP by waiting so long, I think she’s using the FERAL energy of the tour for REP TV, and I always thought the Debut “plan” might be tied more into a project that *ends* the tour, and even extends it (a documentary, the book, something else)…kind of like a “soundtrack” of the experience in some kinda way. 🤷‍♀️ 4. And finally, I do think she’s going to use her birthday as part of this totally iconic plan she’s come up with! 🎂 She loves to give US something as a “reverse gift” lol, AND she’s turning 35… it’s a big birthday for her! Fun times ahead. 😃💃😜🎉 You’ve said it yourselves before: she hasn’t repeated herself yet for any of the 4 re-records thus far, and I absofuckinglutely 😜 think she’s do something we can’t fathom yet to reclaim both her REPUTATION and HER LITERAL NAME (I could cry now just thinking about it! Ommmggg help us all, lol 🤣)… remember how THRILLING it felt when we kinda felt like she was going to announce 1989, but then she started unveiling BLUE DRESSES 👗 one after another in the show leading up to the announcement???! Who could have everrrr predicted that as her plan?? 🥰🙌😁🫶❤️ So I say, release this anxious energy and prepare yourselves for some ICON SHIT coming up SOOOOON!! 😂💃👑🐍🐍🐍🥳 (one last thing: with the black and gold bodysuit, I think she’s nodding HARD that the REP tour imagery will be part of wtf she comes up with… but NO clue what she’ll do for Debut, sorry 😝🤷‍♀️🤣) Love uuuuuu girls! 😘💕🐍🐍🐍🫶🎸

Lauren Levitt

I’ve heard people say the “sign on your heart is still reserved for me” line is about how Travis‘s jersey number (sign on his heart) is 87 so it’s missing Taylor aka 13. Don’t know if I buy it, but I did think it was a cute idea.

Tyler

The football reference is far too random if not about Travis

Jentallygirl

This! I think she’s been saving him, lol… 😻

Nevara PUMPKIN Shaw

Comments for tomorrow: I need your clowning thoughts about all the yellow, debut being gone now from the lwymmd box, Taylor nation and the betta dress but they spelled beta, The man wall having debut written inside rep along with the greek symbol for alpha and omega (beginning and end). A lot of these are Nikki on TikTok and she hand an interesting numbers reason why she would play hits different with welcome to New York. I know these theories don’t usually turn into anything but these were interesting to fathom. HELP!

Takara

evermore IS the folklore vault… cause she’s always said she couldn’t stop writing so we got evermore. I would LOVE more songs from those eras but I just don’t know!

Tracy Peterson

If the Alchemy isn’t about Travis, I think it’s about the fans and her return to the spotlight

Rick V

BTW, if you’re a true “LA Southerner”, the actual pronunciation is “NAW- lins”

Julesf75

Go back and watch the lover intro speech from the Vegas eras show way before she met Travis and she says "the alchemy of the crowd" I think she was already writing this song and maybe changed and reworked lyrics at some point to gear it towards Travis!

superscarf

I splurged and took my daughters to a second night. I can confidently say it was worth every penny!!

Rachel

I would love a Stevie era (maybe it’ll also lead into a full fleetwood era as well?) 🩷

Tess7

Lol right?😂

Katie LaFave

the 2nd verse of espresso is sooo tayvis coded!!!

Katie LaFave

i now need a professional acoustic cover of taylor sing espresso

Katie LaFave

we need a taylor x sabrina collab

Katie LaFave

travis & taylor's first date was in new york!!

Ottie Rose

Alsooo I agree that Taylor is giving the vibe that rep and debut will be combined somehow. No idea how but the vibes are there and I’m scared for my well being.

Ashley

It’s about her career in sports terms— she’s saying she’s the goat!

Leander

There’s no way she will announce them together. It would be a merge of Eras and she’s all about the isolated eras. The marketing would be all over the place. It’s just too messy. I believe Rep TV will be first and Debut TV last. Collecting her reputation and then her name. From a business perspective, it would make sense to release Rep TV last because of the anticipation but I think she’ll owe it to her younger self to get Debut TV last because it probably will be so groundbreaking and emotional for her. I think there will a lot of press and marketing around that because it’s going to be so iconic. Rep is iconic enough on its on. X

Katie LaFave

such a creative, fun, & new way to bring out a guest!!! taylor's a genius

Katie LaFave

PLEASE REACT TO THE SECRET OF US DELUXE!!!!

Ashley

It’s about her own career success but described in a sports metaphor- she’s bacially saying she’s the greatest in the league , she’s the goat!

LindseyMarie

2nd comment because I just love chatting back to you, like you can actually hear me while I make my morning eggs😂 Anyway, as for Ratty Healy, my initial thought was that of course he’s not going to write about his relationship with Taylor because even in HIS version he knows he comes off as the smallest man who ever lived! And screw him and his “art” loads of people only know who he is because of Taylor, the world and history forever will know HER name, and her vastly superior art, while he’s forgotten! End rant.

StatMatt

I think The Alchemy may have started as a Matty song but when the song was finished it was definitely a Travis song. Putting The Alchemy directly after The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived makes no sense if it’s a Matty song.

Rebecca

Another great episode senoritas! What does she have in store for NOLA N3?! Regarding a double announcement, I think it is a possibility. Closing the re-records out at the end of this current era with nothing "pending" to start 2025, the year of the snake, sounds good! Whether they are actually released at the same time not sure but one thing I do know about Swifties, we will buy either way! How easy would it be for our loved ones when it comes to figuring out a gift for the Swiftie in their life! That's why having pre-orders right before the holidays is smart. So an announcement on Vancouver N3 would make sense & what a fabulous way to end this phenomenal tour. I'd be curious if maybe she will do Debutation (cringe, sorry!) mashups at the remaining shows 13 shows and the announcement at the last show. Secretly I'm hoping for that, manifesting if you will, cause I will be at that show and would love it! 🫶

Grace

Maybe I’m a clown but I think this might’ve been Taylor telling us Sabrina is on Debut TV. Obviously she’s just having fun too, but Sabrina on a Debut vault? I’d love it

Isabel Victoria

Folklore/Evermore vault will just be Woodvale 😏

Nickole

Sorry for the long message you’re about to see (even though you probably won’t even see it, lol. But to anyone who does, you’ve been warned. I have lots of thoughts 😂). In regards to the re-recordings, I do think a double announcement might be possible, I do not believe in a double drop, however. The reason being that I think a lot of people are underestimating debut. Sure, it may not be as acclaimed by the public like reputation, BUT, this is Taylor Swift we are talking about and this is her FIRST album. The one that started it all. I don’t think people have stopped to contemplate what an absolute full circle moment it will be for her to have her very first album be completely her own. I think the process itself of going back and re-recording it IS monumental. But I don’t see people thinking about this. I, personally, LOVE Taylor Swift (the album), and knowing what we know about Taylor and how passionate she is about her work, I would think there is an emotional element to ending the whole journey with her very first album that warrants it having a moment on its own that could even be much larger or meaningful for her than rep. Mind you, I think both will make noise because they’re both AMAZING, but I think there’s a lot more to consider than people are accounting for when it comes to debut. 😅

Jacqueline

The only thing I wonder about is possible timings of announcements given the copyright extension on the album names. She's renewed the "hold" on the names (Rep TV, TS TV) the maximum number of times...so would announcing the album, with artwork and a confirmed release date constitute as "using" the name, therefore protecting the rights to them? That's the only thing which makes me think announcement(s) might come sooner rather than later.....

Isabel Victoria

Did you notice that the new Rep bodysuit has a 2.0 on the back? I’m really thinking she’s saving Rep for last and it’ll be somewhat of a double album and she will do Rep tour 2.0

C

I don't believe any particular theory but the self titled / reputation mashups are quite suspicious, these last two weekends of shows have been more and more chaotic and insane, and I feel like she will surprise us with SOMETHING or other by the end of the tour. Like I just can't imagine her not wanting to at least announce the last re-recordings, or ~at least~ one of the reminding two, before the ERAS tour ends, ya know? I just feel like something is afoot... and I'm so excited for the rest of these shows I could *possibly* see her announcing debut at the end of tour or having it come out at near the end of this year (maybe her birthday?), which would just create more suspense for reputation being the last one. But the mashups are concerning me like why is she doing that!!

Tess7

lol you are so right!

Jacqueline

Ooh that would be amazing

Julesf75

On your first full eras tour reaction video at 15:10 she literally says alchemy! That was in March 2023. I only realized it bc I watched the video after ttpd came out and was so confused!

Clare

There’s a new soundtrack coming that hits different and possibly feature duets?

MarkH

Yes, I think it is a mistake to think that a song can only have one muse. She can have multiple inspirations for the same song.

Rhiannon W.

I would love if you two shared your love for Stevie! As someone who's named after an iconic song, our worlds would collide even more and I'm here for it.

C

Can we talk about how she's been filmed leaving the stadium for the last 5 shows....

Dominic Cuomo

I think TS12 will be her spiciest album and I definitely can see Sabrina Carpenter being a feature, plus I want u to see the New Heights clips when Jason went to Miami night 1 watch it on YouTube it’s worth watching that whole part it’s a the beginning

Mequet

I must say as someone born in New Orleans no the locals do not ever call it N’awlins. We pronounce it New Orlinz basically. Definitely not or-leens but also no self-respecting local of New Orleans calls it N’awlins.

Mequet

I was born there and locals don’t ever refer to it as N’awlins. Anyone in my family from there spots a tourist a mile away if they call it N’awlins or New Or-leens. We just pronounce it like New Orlinz.

Katie LaFave

new york for taylor was her home, then it became this place with painful memories because of joe & matty, but now it's become a happy place again because of all the memories she's made with travis!!! new york hits different!!!

MarkH

Agreed, and I also think that Taylor is always writing songs, so that she has a lot more songs for every album than she actually used.

Sara Kunce

My thoughts on the alchemy – he jokes that it’s heroin but this time with an E I think that’s a connection that like Travis maybe thinks she’s a hero but when she was dealing with Matty Healy, who obviously is into drugs, heroin:drugs. It was like she was dealing with Matty who we know liked drugs but this time (Travis) calls her a a hero. He always talks about how she’s superior, amazing, etc. Plus, the fact that in the alchemy she talks about where is the trophy he just comes running over to me…that doesn’t connect to Matty

Anna

You girls are the very best motivation for me running on the treadmill for the full length of your videos every other day since finding your Patreon. But today the “starting her fish era” made me laugh so much, I nearly stumbled … “down bad laughing at the gym” 🤣 Thanks so much for keeping me fit and entertained 🫶

Jason

"I'm deeply craving Peter." Girl same...

Katie LaFave

stevie also mentioned that she bought travis a blanket!!

tara

This is the only re-record theory I’ve ever had that wasn’t influenced by clowning 😂 What if she waits til 2026 to release Debut’s re-record? Cause that would be the 20th anniversary (Debut came out Oct 24, 2006 in the US) and wouldn’t it be such a move to squash any hype that could surround any “20th anniversary” promo of the original by releasing the re-record??

Clare

“The sign in your heart is still reserved for me” is because he’s 87 and her number is 13. He has reserved space for her to make 100. I genuinely don’t understand the confusion. As soon as I heard it I knew it was a Travis song. She “circled him on a map”. That was the joke when they first started dating that she put him on the map! She was flying to see him constantly and touching down! In so high school she talks about him joking, so she has a connection there. She never talks about jokes and Matty. In the “coming back to where she belongs” - happiness.

Rebecca

After the Sabrina appearance, I’m deeply manifesting a Kelsea Ballerini appearance for a Peter x Peter Pan mashup.

Micaela

Taylor is such a queen. Karma takes all my friends to the summit!! I was at the second weekend of the tour in Vegas and she spoke about how much she loves Lana and encouraged us all to listen to her album which had just come out. I was desperately hoping Lana would come out to sing snow in the beach with her but she wasn’t in her guest appearance era quite yet 🙃

Katie LaFave

if joe and kendall are just friends, i don't think people should have a problem with this considering gigi and kendall are best friends!!

Natalie

The Matty interview….is there anything more insufferable than watching a man talk gibberish in the vein attempt of sounding poetic? It’s giving Russell brand. It’s giving gaslighting. “Saying controversial things, just for the hell of it…”.

Natalie

Also, will you lovelies be reacting to/doing a vid on the new Gracie tracks? Slightly obsessed with “cool”

savannah

you guys react to the secret of us deluxe version it’s so good!

Andrea

we need you guys to talk more about fleetwood mac and stevie!! like a deepdive, breakdown, etc !!

Katie LaFave

for me the heroine lyric means that the reason they're on a "winning streak" is cuz travis loves taylor while matty loved drugs which is something taylor references in chole and the gang!

Eszter Kun

Will you be reacting to the tsou deluxe tracks?

River

So for me, I think the ‘debutation’ mashups is just Taylor having fun teasing us bc there’s only the two records left and she wants to keep us talking and guessing. What I’ve often wondered, is since there is no debut era on the tour, I can’t get out of my head if there is a possibility of like a Lover Fest styled mini tour for Debut, and that she could announce it while announcing the tour. I was imagining it with a bunch of guests and it being like a bit of a throw back country hoedown. Then I saw this post by Dan Cashio with the cutest idea for Debut for it to be a double album where it’s Taylor Swift (TV) and then a collab album Taylor Swift and Friends, and it totally revived my delusional debut fest dreams. Chances of it happening might be on the floor but it’s fun to have a little think about! https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBb_yjZsSvr/?igsh=MXM2M2F4Mmh3eWJ5MA==

Katie LaFave

for me i think about how travis went to the eras tour and tried to give her a friendship bracelet, but it didn't work out. however, he didn't just give up! he mentioned it on his very popular podcast! that's what i think the "sign on your heart says it's still reserved for me" lyric means!!

Chelsea

Travis did an interview when he was younger where he said Taylor Swift was his celebrity crush! That’s why it’s “still” reserved

Ava Motarjeme

NEED your reaction to all the football references shes making during midnight rain

Grace

Also some of The National are from Cincinnati, Ohio, so the thought (hope) is that she might do Renegade next weekend while in Indianapolis (Indiana borders Ohio, so geographically would make sense if any of them still live in Ohio). It would’ve made more sense to do it last year at the Cincinnati shows, but Aaron did come out during those

Darby

Random ask for random Australians 😂—I’d love a tour of your town(s)! It would be cute to see your fav stores/coffee shops etc—kinda like the London video. Also, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, please react to a Chiefs game! USA Football is such a weird game and I know it will be so funny to hear your reactions.

Katie LaFave

please react to jason talking about going to the miami show!! it's on the new heights youtube channel!! it's a 7 and a half minute video!!!

Dori McDowell

..."& threw up on the street" 😳😉🤭

sofie sandrini

I noticed Em's hair when I watched old videos and LOVED the bright color and then yesterday she pops up with gorgeous hair (AGAIN). love the slay

Katie LaFave

"at dinner you take my ring off my middle finger and put it on the one people put wedding rings on" THAT'S NOT CASUAL BRO!!!

Kailey's Corner

I deeply don’t think she’ll announce them at the exact same time. I do think she’ll announce one and perhaps announce the other on the first ones release date. Or perhaps one at the show and one at midnight? I am so suspicious of the mashups and what’s going on between now and the end of tour. But I agree they each need their own space to breathe. But perhaps she’s hoping debut tv will get extra hype from being tied closely to rep tv ? so much to process

heather

lovee the matty rant!

Amanda Saul

Finneas’ album is incredible would love a reaction eventually!

heather

please do the stevie video reading the interview!

Jaimie C

throwing in my vote for you to read to us the Stevie Nicks interview 💕 especially now that she is fully in the tscu 🤩

Dori McDowell

She also "circled him on the map" and that initial chats were She "put him on the map" as if he was unknown lol 😉🤦🏼‍♀️

Jayluxx

very, very, very, unbelievably excited that you guys said you're reacting to patterns! i'm a big kelsea fan so to hear that feels like my worlds are colliding!

Kailey's Corner

What if she did a LPSS of Debut TV since she didn’t have an era on tour. Or a LLFP one time show of Debut TV next year. I feel like she could do something wild just for Debut outside of the Eras tour since it wasn’t exactly a part of it in the way the other eras were…

Matthew Gordon

The Emily in Paris one is so so so funny! Totally would purchase that haha

natalee:)

i literally can’t believe i was there!!! best night of my life and the ss were so insane

DemiMarie🤍🖤

The excitement I have for you chickens to watch the SS Songs tonight!! Ahhhh 😂👏🏻👏🏻🫶🏻

Nici Z.

I could listen for HOURS just you two ranting about that lame excuse for a man aka MH and putting him in his place 😂🙋🏻‍♀️😂 That is soooo satisfying. 🙌 This individual is so full of himself, instead of letting it rest, he just had to have the last word.. Speaks a lot about his character.

Dori McDowell

Ratty is TOTALLY trying to HURT her! He knows what he's doing to her... 🤬

Jessica

Meanwhile, I’m still waiting for her to announce evermore: longpond 🥲🫠 lol

Chanelle

the people who were here literally lived my dream

sunlitszn

i feel like the alchemy is abt the fans but the chorus’ and bridge are abt travis

Eric Chaney

Def react to interview, And to Griff album :)

Cheese King of Denmark

I do think it makes sense for her to announce both at the same time while she can do it on the biggest stage in the world. I agree that it would mess with out beloved clowning, but remember that she could still have tricks up her sleeve. Potential Folklore, Evermore or Lover vaults would be a great twist/surprise. Or even the holiday collection.

Matthew Gordon

I will legit die if we get an evermore vault omg helppp that’s too superior

Toriannexoxo

The only reason I’m kind of thinking she MIGHT announce both at the same time is because she would be reclaiming her name (debut) and her reputation (rep obvi). Which would be so iconic. But also a lot. Hahaha

Dori McDowell

6 weeks today last Eras Tour show. 😭 13 shows left including tonight. 😭 Dec 9th the post Eras Tour depression will sink in. 😭

Amanda P

besties, I have fathomed the alchemy so much!! 1. she famously didn’t want to meet Travis at the show on July 8th and reached out to him at the end of the month!!! his heart was still reserved for her, even though she literally ignored him AND he mentioned he had cupids working their magic so it could’ve been for a while! 2. she comes back to where she belongs = an American boy cause the blokes (British) warm the benches! 3. he jokes that their connection is as strong as a drug but this time she’s his heroine cause he’s obsessed with her and not actual heroin 🫢 4. she is back, the hospital was a drag = she was in the mental asylum of a Matty breakup when Travis came to his first show, but she’s emotionally available again, even though it’s a little quick & irresponsible aka treacherous, who are they to fight this undeniable chemistry?!?! I do think the melody is a little somber for a Travvy song but she was so happy singing it in Paris 🥹

Brittany Diamond

I think Alchemy started a Matty song and she changed it into a Travis song, re-writing the chorus etc

Amanda P

I love you guys reading & responding to the comments, so fun!!! 🫶🏼

lane ♡︎

Omg I was laughing the majority of this video 😂 she CANNOT be announcing not rep and debut on the same night 😭😭 how do we stop her from doing this

Demons

I always thought that “he jokes that it’s heroine but this time with E” was Travis making a joke that her ex was a druggy

Enzo Reis

Please react to The Great Impersonator by Halsey!! 🥹💘

lane ♡︎

I genuinely will never understand why people take slight jabs at Taylor’s songwriting and art and I think it comes from a place of insecurity. I feel they think of their art as some kind of exclusivity and only “certain” people would ever get it. It’s giving narcissistic and a grandiose mentality of too cool for you energy and it’s quite icky

Jule

I was a little wine drunk watching the surprise songs last night and I was LOSING it when she started singing Espresso 🤣 also I would snatch up a Chats and Reacts poster so quickly if they were available!!

Lindarose Farias

I read an article that the last stadium she is playing at just spent millions to update the cell service. I think Taylor Nation is going to live stream something there.

Amanda Schumacher Shield

Ahh! My daughter and I are going to night 1 in Indy. Cannot wait to see what madness she pulls out!!

Esther Newman

This was wild! I may be clowning but could this be an easter egg for a Taybrina collab? It just seems so suspicious with the phone call set up - also some of the things they were saying just odd, but that could just be them having a laugh... Either way their voices sound amazing <3 As a massive Stevie Nicks and Fleetwood Mac fan I would love love love for you to enter your Stevie era and to read the interview! She talks about a lot - about new music, Taylor, Harry, Fleetwood, Daisy Jones... It's a really interesting read :) In terms of Debutation, I don't think it will happen and I get the feeling like she won't announce either this year on the tour. I just feel like she's already give us so much this year with TTPD and may just want to enjoy the end of such a mega, mega tour - I think people forget how massive a deal this tour is, not just in terms of its success but also how much of her life its taken up. Why not let her enjoy the last leg of it and doing these fun new things like bringing out Sabrina? So maybe we'll just get a tour documentary over the Christmas period, maybe some more surprise guests (Bon Iver and Aaron for an exile/Renegade/evermore mash-up? Jack? Lana? Post Malone?) Saying this, I never say never with this woman, so let's see... The new Rep outfit and her new dresses, and the amounts of times she's been drawing attention to them, is suspicious... This all may be just because I'm so massively excited for both Debut TV and Rep TV, and want both albums to fully enjoy a full era like we've had for previous re-records. They're both so different too, with different narratives and messages that I can imagine Taylor wants to explore and develop further (like she did with Red TV, how she deepened the story surrounding All Too Well 10 and how that age difference relationship impacted her/all the songs). Plus, just imagine all the different collabs she could have for both lined up! All the country artists she could work with for Debut? Maybe someone like Raye or Kesha for Reputation since they have also battled for the rights to their work? In my mind Reputation TV could allow her to fully delve into the themes of ownership and artistry in her work, as well as those of fame, being 'cancelled', isolation, bullying etc. And for Debut, her roots as a country singer, her skills as a story teller, how she learnt the ropes in Nashville and opening to other artists, girlhood and growing up quickly etc. Plus if she left Debut and Rep TV for next year, she could also finish 2025 with The Holiday Collection TV (because I too need it in my life!) and a separate re-recording documentary. Whatever happens though I know she will announce them in the most perfect, genius, brilliant ways that we won't have even conceived of, at the most perfect time. I'm trying to ignore the constant clowning and just enjoy what we have when we have it :) x

Emily B

I simply need Debut to be the last re-record so badlyyy! Her most underrated album NEEDS it’s own pop culture moment I’m so sorry

Allie

Easter egg that Sabrina is a feature on Debut, since she has been there as a fan since Debut?!?!?!?!

Esther Newman

Ps. sorry for the long long message! I just have so many thoughts!

SharonM

Lol when Taylor Swift calls, you answer! 🤣

Marcelo Gouveia

Guys what about the secret of us deluxe? It is offensive

Esther Newman

Oh also, I'm not sure if you're fans, but I would love if you reacted to Halsey's new album - she's inspired by different musical icons which I think you would love <3 anyways, thank you for all your hard work and great content! x

Shaun

Hi guys!! For me I immediately fathomed the vibe of The Alchemy as trepidation. There's hesitation in stepping into another relationship because she's just coming off the end of two brutal breakups. As soon as I heard it it clicked that of course her first Travis song wouldn't sound like something off Lover - she's been hurt twice, she's gone crazy and then recovered (the hospital was a drag). It's sensual, but also hesitant, and like she's building back up her will to love again. "I guess I'll give this a shot" sort of energy. 💕

Anna.98

Please please please react to Sabrinas singular act 1 and 2

Breezy Bumbles

You think New Orleans is confusing to pronounce? Don’t even get me started on Louisville (in Kentucky). That blows my mind on a daily basis.

Elias

Guys i love Tess just like you do but could you try watching on folklerics stream on youtube sometime? I find them to be less glitchy.

Zoe

For me the alchemy is deffo travis but references to matty and the past. Like when she says ‘hey you what if I told you were cool’ and the she mentions child’s play and her rule etc that links with soooo many matty songs that mention her being queen and them being kids etc. I think she’s looking back saying that was all shit but now it’s actually bullshit because I’ve met travis and I’m not fighting it because he is SUPERIOR. 🥹❤️ although I don’t fully get the heroin line …. Love you guys 🫶

Bailey

The timing of when The Alchemy had to have been recorded is what doesn't click for me with it being about Travis. It had to be recorded by September/October to make it onto the vinyl because it's my understanding that vinyl has a 6 month lead time for pressing (feel free to correct me if that information is out of date but that's what I've always heard). Even if that timeframe is wrong, I still don't think it could possibly be referring to the Super Bowl which happened only 2 months before TTPD came out and after she announced the album.

Sophie May

I would still love a Shawn album reaction <3

Kay Kay

Why do people love to forget that she writes songs with other people? Maybe jack suggested the heroine line and she was like yes that fits! It doesn’t have to be every single word literally applies to her situation. Also could you not see her being like my ex literally did heroine and travis being like I’m not addicted to anything but you and then she just made it sound more artsy lol

Annika Pedersen

another reason why the alchemy might be about matty is just the timing of when it would've needed to be finished to have made it on the vinyl. For songs to be pressed on vinyl they need about 6 months so she wouldve had to have had the standard album written by sept/october latest- so she couldve snuck a travis song on right when they started dating but the superbowl didnt happen until february. I do think its about matty and the universe just works in mysterious ways for taylor

Maria GB

Theres a Travis interview when he’s asked what’s his favorite song from tortured poets and he says “the alchemy but I’m biased about it” like he KNOWS that’s his song. Plus the bridge?!? How is it even a question that it’s a Travis song😅 (“Cause they said there was no chance trying to be the greatest in the league”- last superbowl the chiefs were the underdog cause they have been playing not as good as usual and nobody thought they’d even make it to the Super Bowl). Alsoooo, the heroine lyrics it’s cause he’s such a joker and that’d be a joke for her being as addictive to him as a drug would be

Breezy Bumbles

Maybe she played WTNY because it’s the anniversary of 1989?

SharonM

Pls react to New Heights episode and the Kelce family (minus Travis ofc) going to Miami N1

Georgina

Please react to Stevie Nick's interview! There's a lot of topics they go into and would love to here you guy's comments!

Isabelle

YESS! I think Sabrina can channel the perfect country voice (as in coincidence for example) and would sound so good on Debut

Breezy Bumbles

Yes! Talk about Stevie! And all of Fleetwood Mac. Any time you want.

Jaimi Carter

Lucy knows 😂🙌🏼 Also, he freaking mouthed “I love you… you know who you are” from stage. While singing the song we know is about her. And then she copied it. He’s such a liar.

Elliana

Ok this performance is making me think they do have some sort of collab in the works, or they have already done it. One thing that just randomly popped into my head was the word “Rollercoaster” kept getting brought up. Song name? Or maybe there will be a remix/collab version of Espresso with Taylor 🤷‍♀️ either way there is definitely a Swift x Carpenter collab in the near future!!! And I’m so here for itttttt

Cassidy

Matty only wants attention, so don’t give him any 🤷‍♀️ Ignore his rants, no one watch his interviews. He will hate it.

Destiny Murtaugh

are you going to react to the secret of us deluxe? :)

Georgina

I think the 'Sign on your heart says it's still reserved for me' lyric makes me think about the interview he did back in 2016 where during Kiss, Marry, Kill, he said he'd kiss Taylor. He was also asked who his celebrity crush was growing up and his team mate Marquez Valdez Scantling joked it was Taylor Swift

The Renn Domino Experiment

Yes, please read Stevie's interview. I grew up listening to Stevie and I think it's incredible that she has touched so many generations. Stevie and Taylor have experienced many things in common in their personal and professional lives.

Breezy Bumbles

After trying to figure out The Alchemy for a thousand years now, in my mind I think the verses and choruses are about Taylor making a comeback to the stage and the fans after being “locked away” for so long from being her full self. Circled you on a map? Eras Tour dates? THEN in the end she talks about Travis because he’s also been a major part of her comeback to herself. I don’t know.

✨Bri✨

I think Taylor has been teasing deubutation bc she’s messing with us but also bc they are the last two to come. So almost making it hard to predict which one comes next. Not that they will be released or announced together but just that we don’t know which is next.

The Renn Domino Experiment

Taylor understands the significance of her album re-releases amongst her fans and wants to pay homage to each album. We don't know what Taylor is working on, but I'm not rushing Debut and Rep because I want them to be perfect when they are re-released.

AnnatheSnail

Not me making a whole Peter Pan 🧚 playlist yesterday with these two songs, plus Cardigan, Wendy by Maisie Peters and Lost Boy by Ruth B.

Myrthe

Yesss thank youuuu this is what I think exactly

Mearra

Ohh I loved this chat so much, I have to add my two cents - imo there is NO WAY debut and Reputation will be released or even announced together. My stomach hurts just thinking about it. It wouldn't make sense for the vibes, the fan experience, or the entire concept of her albums having their own eras. If there's one thing we've learned about the re-records, it's that Taylor Swift is dedicated to doing everything right, even if that means drawing the process out over 5+ years. Why would she suddenly now be in a rush to release two rerecords at once? She even says it in Rep- when she knows something is going to happen, she takes her time! Also logically it's a terrible business move, and Taylor Swift does not make terrible business moves, excuse me?! This is Taylor Swift. She will always do the most superior perfect thing. No one can ever predict what she's going to do next and it ALWAYS ends up being the best possible move to make. Mastermind fr!! And I think the Alchemy has to be about Travis, right?? There's way too many football references for it to be about anyone else. The heroin line makes sense to me as a joke Travis might have made- just like your last ex I'm ALSO addicted to heroin - but this time with an "e" lol, I'm addicted to you <3. Idk, that's how I hear it. And I totally get why people think it doesn't sound like a love song - it's not about that high of a crush, butterflies in the stomach feeling, plunging headfirst fearless in love. The Alchemy's more like- you know how the world kind of slows down and spins when you're drunk? Chemicals hitting like white wine - the whole song is her drunk in love, like what a true Lavender Haze should sound like, kind of dreamy and syrupy sweet and slow, falling so deeply in love you realize your whole world now revolves around them. The only thing I can say about the smallest man, is every time I see another horrible thing he's said or done to draw attention to himself, all I can think is that Taylor was sooo right - he's STILL performing. The stagelights are off, he's irrelevant to her now, but there he goes. Hiding his frightfulness in plain sight. Taylor is just never wrong, it's crazy how accurately she predicted his behavior and exposed him for exactly what he is. Wee little man. Also I will DIE when you start your talking about Stevie Nicks era!!!! Like vomit and die on the spot, I will perish, I cannot WAIT to hear your opinions on the Most Incredible Iconic Woman (besides Taylor Swift) AAAAAAAAAHHH!!!! Sorry, too many words, I know!! Taylor does that to a girl, we love her for it. TLDR: debutation is an abomination and the Alchemy is a Travis love song. IMO <3

Aloha Record Sargent

I agree, it's about going back on tour and the fans, and it just so happens that Travis is part of that! She literally met him because of the tour. So it can be about both.

✨Bri✨

The alchemy always made sense to me as a Travis song, the heroin lyric I feel like is him joking that he’s been on a winning streak not bc of doing drugs (like some star athletes do/are accused of) but bc he has an amazing girl supporting him. And the “what if I told you I’m back, the hospital was a drag” is her saying that she’s back in the game after being so down bad after Matty ghosted and left. And also Joe is the slammer and matty is the miracle move on drug like a hospital…and the hospital turned out to be a drag/the effects were temporary. And the “sign on your heart says it’s still reserved for me” makes me think of how the first we heard of his interest in her (and the first time she did too) was on his podcast where he said he was butthurt and took it personal that she doesn’t meet people after the show bc he wanted to give her a bracelet. So now that she’s come around and showed interest he was excited and the sign on his heart was still reserved for her even after being butthurt. I feel like this also connects to the “child’s play back in school is forgiven under my rule” lyric as well. Bc you never know how she could’ve taken it with him first talking about wanting to meet her in such a public way and saying that he was offended (kind of seems childish) but she actually liked it and thought it was a cute gesture or as she says in her time person interview it was “metal as hell”. Just thought I’d share how it actually makes a lot of sense to me for it to be about Travis!

Jessica Rivas

I think she meant the literal rollercoaster Sab was on like two days ago maybe but who knows with mother 😂

Vilja

will you guys be reacting to secret of us deluxe? pleeeease please please do

Emily Komoroski

Not related at all, but thinking of towards the end of the tour: what will our final surprise songs be? I’m trying to fathom the guitar song, maybe Tim McGraw as her first single. But for piano Long Live - “I had the time of my life fighting dragons with you.”

Sonya Payne

I’ve been thinking what if “Karma” is the vault for Reputation? I think she would give Debut her shining moment. Not just as a smart business move but it’s the album where it all started, Debut deserves her moment✨✨

Jenna

Sometimes I wish your rants could be posted to the public and not just on Patreon so all losers and haters could see your opinions!!! Y'all spitting facts on Matty

Spin and slide

Did anyone fathom that the last two concerts are Toronto and Vancouver…..T V

Kayla Aul

I WAS THERE AND I LOST MY MIND

justine

travis has also come out and said his top 3 songs are so high school, the alchemy, and blank space, i don’t think it’d be his top if it wasn’t about him

Ari

Totally agree with you. In her in summation poem she refers to Matty is a moment of temporary insanity, he is the hospital she is referring to in the Alchemy. It’s a song about the early part of a relationship, when you aren’t sure if you want to jump into anything new because of your past. It’s when you can’t deny the chemistry between you, so jump in anyway. It’s giving Treacherous. I will just add that Travis got in trouble in college for smoking weed and ended up getting kicked of the football team and losing his scholarship. It’s something he’s talked about being super ashamed of and given Taylor’s clean image he could have been concerned she would have a problem with that past. But above everything the most clear evidence that the song is about Travis is that she has publicly sung it to him multiple times and he’s said it’s one of his favorites on the album along with So High School. I understand we speculate on so much of the lore and songwriting, but on the rare occasion when Taylor tells us what a song is about it would be nice if fans actually believed her.

Breezy Bumbles

I was wondering that myself. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl like 5 minutes before TTPD was released so I thought there wasn’t enough time to add it to the album (especially the first half because they were physically printed for release in April). But then again, it’s Taylor Swift and she can pretty much pull anything off at this point. I mean, she is Commander of the Rain after all.

Kirsten

Okay yes, I can agree that she is using it as a Travis song now. I just got Matty from the “heroin but this time with an e” like Bonny said, and the “sign on your heart said it’s still reserved for me” also like Bonny said. She’s saying this as I’m writing lol. I do think the sports stuff is a coincidental metaphor.

Laura F.

HELP. I somehow got tickets to the last night of the tour in Vancouver. SOS. I plan on passing away.

sophie

singing the "lets fast forward to 300 takeout coffees later" RIGHT AFTER espresso is so unserious i love themmmm

Kirsten

Actually I forgot a point I made to my sisters once how the alchemy could be a mix of both Matty and Travis, literally making it alchemy

sophie

imagine being sabrina and going from being a die hard taylor swift fan to being friends with taylor swift and her singing sabrinas own songs on tour

Jenny MacRunnel

Matty won't make an album to respond to Taylor's BECAUSE his would suck compared to hers. He's scared shitless honestly. I don't click on any of the links with Matty and I will NOT listen to the 1975. This is his way of puffing himself up, by trying to tear her down. *Rolls eyes* He is the Smallest Man Who Ever Lived.

Joelle J DeMeyer

I think the alchemy is an insane coincidence that she’s since reclaimed to be about Travis. I just don’t believe she had enough time to write that and get it added to the album in time after the Super Bowl. She announced the album before the Super Bowl and she then wrote and squished a full song onto the main album?? I don’t think so.

malia

would love to see you guys react to Sabrina's tour style video with vogue. I wish Taylor would do something like that

Ashley

Yes, it’s about her career but as a footballl metaphor- she’s saying she’s the GOAT!

idadler

Do you have any plans on reacting to Lady Gagas new single? Thanks for all the content

Sammy

The sign on your heart (87 his jersey) says it's still reserved for me (13)?!?!?!

Gone Girl

Tonight is the anniversary of 1989

Yasmine Ali

THEORY ON THE ALCHEMY: i think the “still reserved for me” line refers to travis still being on board with dating taylor after she explained the matty healy relationship to him. travis did an interview when they first started dating and mentioned that the first time taylor texted him she basically said “here’s the situation, you’re really lucky that i’m reaching out to you” so the “still reserved” is saying that he accepted her past and wanted to move forward!

Yasmine Ali

AND the “what if i told you im back” may refer to her finally dating an american again. “blokes” is an english term that we don’t use at all in america so i think she’s like “all these english boys i dated were just warming the benches for you”

Luke Johnson

I was there!!!! Still not recovered!!!

Linds K

Wait wait wait lol The Alchemy is 💯 not about Matty 🤣 BUT I do think there’s more to it than just being about Travis. I think it’s a song to her fans about this phase of her life and being “back” to normal. Telling the fans “I’m back” as in both “I’m back in the United States, I’m back on tour, and I’m back to normal after being stuck in the mental hospital. But she’s also tying it all together with football metaphors that relate to Travis because he’s a huge reason for her “bounce-back” and this specific phase of her life is so tied to him. And I think there are some parts addressed to him and some addressed to the fans. One specific example is I think the “I circled you on a map” is her talking to the fans about coming back to the United States to start the eras tour.

Savanah Vanzant

OMG yesss I would love a full video about the Stevie Nicks interview! 🤍🤍

Linds K

lol to your comments about “why are you watching these two random Australians” 🤣 we love you! Sometimes I recap things you’ve said to my sister and I’ll say “my Aussie girls said…” and she’ll know exactly who I’m talking about 😝

Stacy Schindler

Sooo happy to hear you’re going to react to Kelsea Ballerini’s new album!

Stacy Schindler

How does anyone not think the alchemy is about Travis? It talks about the night of his Super Bowl win. It has so many football references. Shirts off was about Jason’s shirtless time at one of the games. I circled you on a map! And everyone said how she put him on the map. I’m shocked ppl ever thought it wasn’t about him.

A'diana Juarez

I feel like “he jokes that it’s heroin but this time with an e” is supposed to mean a heroine like in literature: “a woman admired or idealized for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities”

superscarf

Love your reactions to the Taybrina surprise+mashup because seeing this live was equally as insane and baffling and magical and wonderful! It was rare, I was there. 😭

Katie Ohh

Love you guys! Can you please please please react to the new Halsey album… it is deeply heartbreaking and her very best lyricism… I know it’s a little outside of your normal reactions but I think you’d guys really enjoy it. 💜💜💜

Mags

The 3 color dress matches the end of the show when the orange door is coming down. The colors are the same. Don’t know the meaning of it but it did caught my attention.

Zarah

Can you guys react to TSOU Deluxe?? I love the new tracks so much❤️

Beza

I don’t think she would release folklore/evermore vaults just because I thought evermore was the folklore vaults. Obviously with different production. Especially how she introduces the two on the tour as sister albums

Kami

Discourse from Travis fans pre Taylor were saying he was actively on the dating scene at the time he had the bracelet and casually dating others. So that's what they think the still reserved for/cut the clowns is about. So I just run with that (plus the fact Taylor has made it clear that she attributes it to him and I'm not in the business of arguing with her)

✨Bri✨

Oh I didn’t know that about his past! That makes sense too!

Brandon N

Seeing my top three artists all in one night …. i was deceased I’ll never process that it happened 😂

SharonM

Arkansas and Kansas

camcam73 hunna

i only want the stevie interview bc i love when theres more content from u two

camcam73 hunna

ive been saying for so long debut tv is coming before rep tv because ending on debut would be so boring considering all the hype is over rep

camcam73 hunna

also im assuming we’ve all fathomed that in fresh out the slammer she says “now were at the starting line” and then in black dog she says starting line. taylor is so good at this it makes me mad

mason

i desperately need to hear your thoughts on “beautiful ghosts”. taylor wrote and recorded it for the cats (2019) motion picture during the lover era. i cannot find a reaction or fathoming from the channel and i need it. lol

Celena

I honestly think she's gonna switch up the last 2 re-relases.. Rep in 2025 and let it shine and then capitalize on Debuts 20th anniversary in 2026.. I just can't see her releasing it a year shy of that.

Celena

Yesss!! This is what I have thought too!! 🥰🙌🏻🫶🏻

Caro

ARE YOU GUYS REACTING TO GRACIES DELUXE VERSION??? we need to talk about this it´s offensiiiiiivveee

Alberto

Are you girlies planning on reacting to the GUTS tour film on Netflix? That would be soooo offensive!!💜💜

Jessica F

Have you girls fathomed that little piece of info that parts of Florida, Fresh Out The Slammer and Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me might have been recorded in December 2022, when she was supposedly still together with Joe?

Ally ❤️

To me the mashup is giving going back to NY after the Joe breakup. It’s been waiting for you…

Ally ❤️

I thought Welcome to NY was a Ryan Tedder song (as opposed to Max Martin)?

Ally ❤️

You should put those posters on the back of a hoodie! With some sort of insignia/logo on the front L chest.

ton

Agree

ton

Pretty sure it was recorded pre Super Bowl.

Danielle

I think there’s a possibility that TS releases like 10th or 13th Anniversary Albums with Vault tracks for Lover/Folklore/Evermore etc

ton

Yes I think a lot of it is about the fans… Never mind her dropping … I’m curious about THE ALCHEMY of a crowd like this the first night of tour in Las Vegas… think she was definitely writing it back then about coming back on tour and touching down in stadiums on tour

ton

Agree

ton

Agree this is what I think she’s doing

ton

Agree

Kirsty

I’d love a full deep dive on stevie and Fleetwood Mac 😇 🙏🏻

kayla

For me, the line in The Alchemy that has me leaning towards Travis (apart from the football references in general) is the “these blokes warm the benches” line. Blokes is British slang and not commonly used in the US.

Lisa Briley

i was there😭😭😭🫨🫨🫨

Makayla

Em I LOVE your hair !!

sarah

omg the hair is gorjas em!!

Alexandra Bennett

I know this is random but I think it would be so fun for you guys to make a video and react to your Spotify wrapped / Apple Music replay at the end of the year! Like your top artists / songs / albums!

Robin Gillett

I think The Alchemy was written about Matty but some of the lyrics fit Travis so well she has re- worked it to be about Travis.

Debra

I was at NOLA N1 and then bought a last minute ticket for N2 when I realized I could ride back to NO with my friend and her daughter. As a 58 year old swiftie who’s been a fan since debut it felt unreal seeing her perform Our Song!! Because of C&R videos I was introduced to Sabrina and therefore was able to appreciate the amazing Sabrina surprise. Thank you so much!

Julie

I have a thought here re: tay playing renegade. There is a kamala Harris rally in madison WI (wisconsins capitol) on Oct 30...Gracie is performing as well as Aaron dessener and Matt berninger from the national. No eras tour on wed 10/30...might tay show up and sing as well after her endorsement? I'm sure safety is a concern of course for her, and needing rest between tour stops. Vut when I saw Aaron AND Gracie....it just seems...possible. just fathoming! ♡ love you both emilyand bonnie. So happy to be here with you all.

Jerry Roberts

Such a fun show! Loved the Q and A chat at the end!! Also I NEED a poster with quotes “offensive”, “not obvious”, “vomit and die”, etc 😂

aiyla

PLEASEEEEE react to the secret of us deluxe tracks!! and maybe watch gracie's short film on yt with vevo

ayla çimen

I watched the entire interview that Matty did (Joshua Citerella is a skilled interviewer), and I want to provide a bit of a counter-point, potentially a de-frustration. The comments he made were toward the end of a 2.5 hour interview, most of which was social commentary and criticism. The quotes being circulated were from the only time the interviewer asked about what he's working on now, and I think it makes perfect sense for him to mention that the upcoming music won't be about his relationship with Taylor, so that fans of the 1975 get some expectations straight. He's been living life for 18 months since then... makes sense that he has other things he wants to write about. As for referring to their relationship as casual: I feel that TTPD actually makes MORE sense with the information that it felt casual to him -- I personally can only imagine ghosting somebody who I feel casually towards. It would be insulting for him to say that the relationship itself was objectively a casual affair, but I don't think that he was making a claim like that -- just saying it was casual for him. I don't have much issue with that, it seems honest, and it would've been weird for him to mention that it WASN'T casual for Taylor. Definitely better to not mention her and only speak on his own experience. Ultimately, I think the framework of the interview was deeply sincere (he and the interviewer seem to be close friends), so it made sense to me for him to speak vulnerably towards the end of the interview -- he spoke at length in the beginning of their conversation about his changing attitude towards irony and a newly realized responsibility to be sincere... in the context of the broader conversation, it was clear to me that he was not taking a dig at Taylor, but was just speaking (sure, carelessly) about his own work. It was the first time I'd listened to him speak, and I came away from the interview with an impression that he's curious and trying to be sincere these days. Just my 2 cents.

ayla çimen

TLDR if you don't want to be mad at Matty over this, I don't think you have to be. But we're all on our own journeys LOL.

Allison

What if she announces Debut TV and then it flashes with Reputation TV 6 seconds later 🤔

Shannon

I know you get requests all the time but I would loveeeeee a Fleetwood Mac era after Eras/Grammys !!

Margaret Aisenbrey

Totally agree with this. It's on the vinyl records, those have to be turned in well before the album comes out. We already knew tortured poets was coming when the superbowl happened...I think it's an uncanny coincidence and taylor is happy to make it about Travis ex poste.

Margaret Aisenbrey

After last night, when taylor made the touchdown sign during midnight rain (during the lyric referencing that she's on tv), he had a touchdown. It was his first touchdown in 13 games (regular season) on the 13th play of the drive and it resulted in the Chiefs score going to 13. It was the chiefs 13 consecutive win. If that isn't Tay voodoo, I don't know what is.

sarahhdear

I am firmly on the ‘the Alchemy was written about Matty’ wagon. She IS retconning it to be a Travis song, but one simply cannot ignore that the Alchemy is lyrically 100% about coming BACK to someone whose heart is STILL reserved for her after escaping the “hospital” ala Fortnight... The story is literally Fresh out the Slammer 2.0

Stacy Schindler

Wow I find that so curious. Do you know how long before?

Kellie

The thing I keep going back to about Debut is if she keeps stretching the release out (new albums, Xmas re-record, Eras documentary, etc.) she can get the release date to be 2026 and release it in a big 20th anniversary package with tons of bells and whistles (and my biggest wish - the re-recording doc). Having said that, I mostly think it depends on how she wants her life to go for the next year - while I think she genuinely likes to work and will continue to do it, I do think how and what she wants to invest her time for awhile is harder to tell (as it should be). I still feel like the random Tuesday announcement and limited release for the anthology and the Eras book was absolutely random so goodness knows I have no clue what she’s going to do and how much hype she’s looking to build right now!

Jen B

THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME SEEING TAYLOR IN NOLA N2!!!!!! Ahh! I was dying! Also! Ok, I agree I don’t feel any debutation is fair…but here’s my clowny theory: she’s mashing debut/reputation as her first and last stolen albums bc it’s giving “what goes around comes around” / karma energy. So I could see her walking through the karma door on the last night and starting a global scavenger hunt or swiftie project to tie the themes of justice/karma together and stagger releases (and announcements) for 2025 to include debut, rep, and then Karma (surprise) PS! as an American who grew up with football playing in my home every fall/winter, the alchemy is so (almost too much) undeniably about a football player — there’s no world in which the alchemy isn’t about travvy. Maybe the parallels to fots is intentional like she’s treading lightly into another relationship after two back2back heartbreaks.

Linds K

Oh and the line “what if I told you we’re cool, that child’s play back in school is forgiven under my rule” I always thought it was to the fans or public who were criticizing her for dating Matty, especially following But Daddy I Love Him where she calls everyone out for that kind of stuff, but now she’s like “okay I know I just sang this song at you but we’re cool”. And the “cause the sign on your heart says it’s still reserved for me” I think is also to the fans, since quite literally sometimes we’re wearing clothes or holding signs about how much we love her. It makes me think of that one crowd that all held up signs during The Archer that said “we will stay” 🥹🫶🏻

Tspd7

Kendall standing next to Taylors fake body in the famous music video is a terrible thing to do....

Tspd7

I think the alchemy is about travis. but if she did write that before meeting him, it's honestly really CRAZY that her next boyfriend was a football player. like that would be some next level tayvoodoo witch allegations.

Breejmc

I’m also not convinced on the debut/reputation double announcement or drop. With The Anthology and Eras Tour book coming out Nov 29th, maybe she would do an announcement that next week for debut to come out next year? All the plaid she’s been wearing (now that we realized the debut set is green plaid in the lover house) points to debut next to me! Have y’all noticed all the yellow and blue lately in her outfits? She did the yellow folklore dress back to back the other day and then yesterday did an all yellow/gold 1989 set! No idea what those colors could be hinting at but with Taylor continuously commenting on her outfits, we should definitely be paying attention 👀 It’s just so hard to know what she’s going to do. Whatever she does will be great and I can’t wait to see how it all unfolds!

Ariana

would love to buy those posters lollll

Clive

Cause the sign on your heart Said it's still reserved for me I've always thought this was about Taylor always being Travis celebrity crush

Amy Versprille

Ok - so she had brand new dresses for surprise songs and mentioned them a few times. They are 2 colors mashed together!!! I think it is a hint that she is doing a double drop of rep and debut. Then she played the debut and rep mash ups during those surprise songs!

kenna🪽

loving the intro emily💀💀🤣🤍

Dswiftie

Kendal is a mean girl. There is this guy on you tube comparing Taylor's vocals on the Eras Tour. He says Taylor is not singing. You guys have been there what do you think?

Dayle

We love a good Chats & Reacts rant thank you!! I think now we desperately need a Maisie Peters guest appearance with Peter x Wendy 🧚🏻🫶🏻

Ariana B

Guys don’t worry, I’m pretty sure Kendall’s back (or on again/off again) with Devin Booker. There is no world in which Joe Alwyn dates a Kardashian.

Liz

Did you chickens see Gracie, Marcus and Aaron are gonna perform at a Kamala rally this week?!? Do you think she’d show up?! That would be so iconic!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

Kera Wilhelmsen

Alchemy is a Travis song. The "heart still reserved for me" to me is because Taylor was always Travis's celeb crush. (Marry, Kiss, Kill?)

Kera Wilhelmsen

"he jokes it's heroin but this time with an E" Taylor said she smokes his jokes all damn night, and I'm sure Travis knows all about Matty and his drug habits from Taylor.

Thea

I would love the ICONIC emily in paris poster 😂

Liz

From a money perspective I think she drops Debut first, and then Reputation. It’s just a fact Reputation has way more anticipation. Dropping both at the same time doesn’t seem like a smart business move. We know what a business woman she is, no way she tries to get two TV albums to compete at the exact same time.

moza

I’m obsessed with these rants 😭🤍🤍🤍 I know you get A LOT of requests but will you be reacting to Gracie Abram’s deluxe tracks? they’re way too superiorrrr!!!! also em’s AYHTDWS shirt is the vibe 💯

Elias

Agreed!! I think it was written about Matty but she now sings about Travis when she performs it.

AshZ

I genuinely can’t deal with surprises, so I need to know when to expect both albums, I can’t cope any longer 😅

AshZ

Would definitely be up for the Stevie read through, even if it’s apart of a suprise song video and I’m still hoping you might react to the Halsey album because it is soooo good!!

AshZ

My favourite is the haunted one but I do need to own them though I have no clue what I’d do with them 🤣

AshZ

As much as I would love more folklore/evermore, as they are sister albums I don’t think there would necessarily be vaults for them, it’s kind of similar to ttpd and the anthology. Then for lover, I couldn’t see her going back to that Joe phase since the breakup is still somewhat fresh, unless she did some sort of twist to make it about Trav.

Ava

I think taylor will want to give debut its moment, and that would be done best by releasing it separately, after rep. she's a smart business woman and she knows that debut needs a moment to shine, for her new and old fans, but also financially/chart-wise it would perform better if released on its own. this is especially true if she releases debut last because right now the people are CLAMOURING for rep, so give them what they want, let them process rep TV for 3-6 months, then the debut fever can begin. if debut is the last one left, people can get wholly excited for debut and it's a really nice full circle moment for everyone, and it's not overshadowed by people waiting for rep.

Sarah

Yes! “This child’s play back in school” links to the playground imagery in MBOBHFT and FOTS as well. She wrote it about Matty, then went back and heavily edited the bridge once she started dating Travis.

Nadja Peedu

The same way that we love everything Taylor puts out, like the vaults for all the albums. We chickens loooove everything you guys put out. I myself have not yet fathomed stevie and all her greatness but would love to hear you guys opinions about the interview. Everything you upload is a blessing ✨✨✨🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

Christine

Please react to Halsey the great impersonator!!

Christine

Please react to Halsey's new album and especially her album rollout because she did an OFFENSIVE impersonation series of iconic artists who have influenced her

Julia

Matts truly IS the smallest man who ever lived. He’s pissed that Taylor is the true artist and he is just the muse!!!!

Jasmine Beckett

I don't think I could physically handle Debut and Rep releasing together because the idea of having to choose which to listen to first sends me into a spiral (actually no, because it's gotta be Rep first, then Debut) LOL

Gülce

I think The Alchemy might be a previously written song repurposed with a bridge. I don’t think it needs to be about a specific person; she's just so skilled at her craft that she can channel a feeling and throw listeners off the scent if she decides to—something she’s done many times before.

Ebba

Haha so funny that you (Bonnie) said you would vomit if Kendall and Joe started dating and she sang Hits Different where she literally says ‘I pictured you with other girls, then threw up in the street’ 😂

sunlitszn

1. do you think she’s gonna change the rep mic bc it’s still a red snake / what do you think abt the theory that she’s gonna have a silver rep outfit bc of the 3 rings on her hand (i think in the lwymmd video) and it goes in order on her hand - red, gold, and then silver 2. what do you think she does w the friendship bracelets she gets during the “red era”, i would love to see how she has them displayed

Rachel Jackson

Can anyone share with me in sadness that we have not had tolerate it as a surprise song since it was removed from the set list? I thought London might be the vibe but sadly not 😭😭😭

DeeAnne Herron

Regarding The Alchemy- The bridge says it all. She references all the things that happened at the AFC Championship game. "Shirts off" Jason took his shirt off. "There was no chance trying to be the greatest in the league" KC wasn't supposed to beat the Ravens. The trophy was on the dias but he went running over to her. (BTW I've been a KC fan for 35 years)

Catherine (YOYOK stan)

I disagree that Sabrina can’t be apart of debut tv I totally think Sabrina’s voice can match it especially as since this was her breakthrough year even though she’s been around for a while. I guess time will tell but i definitely think they will collab one day.

Kellie Mahoney

Sabrina would actually be amazing on a Debut vault, she has a bit of a country twang to a number of her songs

Kellie Mahoney

Yes! Please react to the Stevie Nicks interview!

James M

What if she announces Debut TV before the guitar song, then Rep TV before the piano song?

Kellie Mahoney

I’ve been clowning for a “From the Vault” album since the Speak Now album tracklist was released. I think that there are probably songs that got left behind during this process because they didn’t fit the narrative for that album. We could get tracks like Need, Drama Queen, and Battle. She could release it along with the re-recording process documentary we all want

Gabi

I don’t think any of the mashups are random, I feel like they only feel random bc we don’t understand yet what she’s trying to communicate and we might know in hindsight. I would’ve preferred renegade tbh, I think Sabrina seems so sweet as a person but I don’t rly like her music

Jessica Foss

Emily's Cute aggression is so funny XD

hauntedwillow27

also travis has multiple times said his favorite songs are “blank space, so high school, and the alchemy” like it’s DEFINITELY about him lmfao

F1Swiftie

I think people are underestimating how many are desperately waiting for Debut TV. Maybe they aren’t as loud as others but they are there. My 11 yr old daughter is one of them.

C

I think it's possible The Alchemy was originally written about Matty but finished to be about Travis

Julie

Definitely react to Stevie. Did you see cute midnight rain things Taylor did - football references to pass- touchdown and Travis first down call? Just say no to debutation (sorry I used that word Bonny) - please give them both their time. Emily rolling her eyes about MH is perfect. Thank you, love watching two random girls from Australia. 🩷

Florence Lambert

Hahah yes to me, Matty is just proving Taylor’s point further which is HILARIOUS.

Florence Lambert

You’re not just two random Australian girls to me🥹🥹 😂can’t wait to meet one day!!

Annie

I don't understand how people are thinking the alchemy is about MH at all? It makes zero since to me.

Bridget Mac

i have always thought that we BEGAN writing the alchemy about matty, due to the heroine line + "the blokes" line, but then eventually found a way to make it about travis. since they were so close to one another!

Mads

Totally agree with this. I think it was definitely originally about Matty. The "heroin with an E" lyric is what seals that theory for me haha

Generi Talens

beautiful singing ladies thank you veryyy muchhhhh

PoeticRainbow

I always interpreted the heroine lyric as her current partner joking about how he is choosing the heroine while her previous partner chose heroin instead.

Miriam

I love you two so much and literally agreeee with everything you've said omg I would never recover from a double announcement! that is way too illegal for her to do

Marissa Turner

I personally think Sabrina would be a good addition to either Debut (she can do a nice country twang) or Reputation (all the bullshit she went through with death threats over the love triangle mess)! But it would also be super fun to have her on TS12!!

Lauren Thomas

Taylor Nation called the orange, white and blue dress the beta dress!

Catalina Borreani

I’D LIKE US TO ENTER A WHOLE FLEETWOD MAC ERA. Backstory. album/songs breakdown and then read us the interview!!

Cher

OMG I SECOND THIS X 1000

Cher

If she features anyone on Debut I need it to be Kelsea Ballerini.

Lauren Thomas

Matty is terrified because he knows any song he would write about Taylor wouldn’t be half as good as her songs about him so he has to gaslight everyone into thinking it wasn’t serious. 🤬

Laura Blake

“Still reserved for me” could be connecting to the multiple times he mentioned her before they actually met.

Lauren Thomas

Sorry for the three comments in a row, but could she announce Debut with a 2025 release date and just drop Rep during a show? There will be no explanation just Reputation 🤡

Lindsey Metcalfe

I love how, when confronted with the possibility of a Debutation double announcement, Bonny and Emily both turn into the Jennifer Lawrence Hot Ones "What do you mean????" meme

Abigail Roney

Random story from New Orleans that you guys would appreciate: I was there for the first night and I saw Blake Livley exploring the city all Saturday with her girls! 🥹 We went to the same restaurant and then saw her again at an antique shop and she was so good at staying low key. We were standing right by her in the antique shop when one of her girls ran off and she yelled, “Betty, Betty, come back!” 🫠 Hearing Betty from her lips was really a lot.

Malina

Thank you for the matty Healy rant I totally agree!! Literally the smallest man who ever lived

Malina

Omg!! I can’t imagine

Malina

Also I know we can speculate and clown all we want 🤡we’ll never fathom Taylor’s superior mind buuuuut I really have a gut feeling that we’ll be getting reputation the last night of the eras tour. 1. She did announce 1989 last night of the eras tour leg in the US And 2. It kinda makes sense giving all the hate and everything she had to go through, it seems like the perfect answer and kinda closure to the success and fame she’s been having with the eras tour and to say bye but end it with “reputation Taylor’s version”

Malina

I agree!! It makes so much sense to also give us her first album last!!

hailey

not sure if you guys have/will react to halsey’s new album but i simply neeed you guys to react to ‘panic attack’ bc its giving fleetwood xx

Aubrey

What Matty is saying now is especially interesting when you look up Downtown Nights by The Blue Nile. That song is devastating AND sounds a lot like About You. Have you all listened to it yet? If not, you should react!

CamilleC

if link to travis, the alchemy trophy isn't about the superbowl per say. Vinyls take 6 to 8 months to make so she def made the first album long before the grammy/superbowl more like fall 2023 imo. i think it's simple the song is about her and the feeling of winning (being back to herself, breathing) she could have felt that with MH and then with Travis, just like the rest of the album multiple muses per songs, depends how you interprete it. The point of it all is Bitches i'm back it's Joever lol

Jen Witek

Exactly. I think The Alchemy tells the story of the whole Joe and Matty break-up and then what her and Travis created from it. it's a different vibe entirely from Invisible String but it has a similar theme to it/ of recalling and looking at where they are at now.

Crystal Kit

Both Travis and Taylor nation have basically said it’s about Travis. Travis has said it’s one of his favorites for “bias reasons” & likes comments of like “Mr alchemy” and also Taylor nation liked a comment that said it’s about Travis. She literally put a million hints in that track that make it Travis lol. Like what?

Crystal Kit

Why aren’t they watching the whole show if it’s day time over there? I thought they said they would? I just noticed they’re not mentioning any of the other stuff that’s been happening, only the secret songs but there’s been a lot happening :( especially with the football throw & touchdown. I hope they react to it in the next one.

Jessie

Just occurred to me that when the Joe breakup news surfaced she changed Invisible String to The 1 - which i've thought to be about Matty Healy and therefore corresponding with the timing of her rebound relationship at the time...!

Sarah Ayers

I LOVE you girls responding to comments here! It really makes it feel more like a chat and react! As always, love what you do! THANK YOU!

Tessa

Folklore had a vault…it’s called evermore 🙊

Tessa

I AM an evermore girlie but….

Foxy_Tatty

Yes, same! Plus when she said the “these blokes warm the benches, we’ve been on a winning streak” lyrics, that seems like she is talking about Joe and Matty being benched, which is a football term meaning you’re no longer in the game. And come on, “touchdown” ? 🩷🩷🩷. I’m team Travy on this one. And also, you two random aussies are waaaaaay more interesting than most things on TV!

zara

‘Reserve’ is a nfl football term girlies! Only solidifying more that The Alchemy is about Trav

F1Swiftie

Yes. Exactly. Don’t know why people focus on one word out of a whole song to say it’s “not about that” when the majority of the song is totally about that. The heroine joke is not hard to understand - he’s saying he’s also hooked, but on her instead of drugs. It parallels So High School with her being hooked on him lyrics “high from smoking your jokes” etc.

Alicia

Oh no, I fear I’m the only one who didn’t love their voices together 🙊

Griffin

She's written a dozen songs with football references before she even met Travis. I don't think that's good evidence at all

Griffin

Id like to think she'd announce Rep on the second to last night with like a "summer 2025" unspecified-date release (so she can still have a big announcement later with the date) and shes just sharing a little secret with us- maybe we dont even get the full cover but some kind of little glimpse of something like a preview of the photoshoot and a tiny clip of one of the songs... ... and then when people least expect it on the next night, announce Debut for immediate release for Dec 13.

Sanya Sharma

I would literally love merch posters soooo much!!!!

Karen Valentino

Love Stevie Nicks! I grew up in that generation. Yes please to any coverage you want to do!

Karen Valentino

I’m puzzling over the possibility of a dual announcement,ent and staggered release of Debut and Reputation (I spelled both of them out for you Bonnie). The only reason I can see her connecting the two is so Debut can bask in Rep’s halo. It seems like so many more fans feel connected to Rep. Debut happened when she was a girl, before she got big, it doesn’t have a full length concert film, it doesn’t have the K&K drama around it that Rep does. I do think Taylor is a mastermind and from the very beginning, if she was going to go to the effort to re-record, she was going to try to drive her numbers. To me Rep’s reception is in the bag, whereas Debut is more of a question mark. For that reason I am dying of curiosity over everything Debut. Cover. Mature singing voice. How it’s promoted. Can’t wait!

Izzzy Federgreen

Idk why everyone is expecting a rep tv announcement, I think she’s gonna announce debut and then just DROP rep tv because that’s the vibe rep has always been, never forget, “there will be no explanation, there will just be REPUTATION”

Gina Bina

I really believe the first half of The Alchemy is directed to the fans. When she's talking about coming back after so long, its in the lens of coming back to concerts/fans. At first I thought the "circled you on a map" was a reference to people saying that about Travis, but I think its circled the cities she is visiting on a map...

Gina Bina

Also - the sign on your heart is to fans... like she released a new album and we all showed up and loved it. I think the song then transitions to about Travis because she's also saying "see guys, I'm back - I'm at the top of my game and my life"

Cara M

I pictured you with other girls, in love. And threw up on the street 🤮

Braden Tyler

The Alchemy is 2000% about Travie✨ “He jokes that it’s heroin, but this time with an e” is Travis joking at Matty! Really plays into the “seemed like he would have bullied you in school” vibe of Tracie’s macho footballer aesthetic 🫶🏻

AmIme

Maybe this was already mentioned, but I always took the “sign on your heart is still reserved for me” in The Alchemy to be about Travis. 87 is the sign over his heart, 13 is her lucky number, 87+13 equals 100. They are complete when they are together.

Daniel

I know it's late, and idk if you have seen it already, but I would LOVE if you guys were to react to Sabrina's tour

Jamie

Would LOVE a Stevie series!

Olivia L

RELEASE THE POSTERS

Heaven Dearie

I also have a video of me guessing it was renegade at first🤣🤣

Cookiee

No no no I need Reputation TV to be announced on its own I simply can't handle a new dubble album cover. I know whatever Taylor has planned it's gonna be amazing and something so illegal we didn't even think about.

Erin S

I think The Alchemy has been ret-coded by Taylor as being about Travis. As much as I want to think it was inspired by him, I am hesitant to fully buy in to that because it’s a song on the main album that was available for purchase as a vinyl, and I’m not sure there was enough time to write, produce and record that song for inclusion on the main album if it was written in late Jan/early Feb 2024 (timing with either the AFC Championship or the Super Bowl). I suppose if anyone could do it, Taylor could. Maybe it was a song that was inspired by Matty originally and then left unfinished and she revised it with Travis in mind, then the timeline might be possible… but I don’t know.

Nicole

I agree 100%. There are definitely MH threads there

Nicole

Lover never technically got a real deluxe. Like the diaries were great but she could do a version of that.

Cinetati

She did a similar thing with Gracie in London and singing Us but didn't mashed up with any of her song!!

Lucero Castillo

Heroin is a drug, aka ratty Matty. Heroine with an e is a woman. It’s different. She’s saying that Travis probably called her a heroine vs matty probably always talked about drugs. This actually proves that it’s about Travis. She’s pointing out the difference in the song that it’s a Travis song.

Brandon N

gracie taylor and sabrina 🫠 best night of my life

Breezy Bumbles

Yes! Maybe it’s partly about Travis but more so about her comeback to the stage and to her country and also to herself. Travis is part of that comeback but it’s more than that.

Eleanor

SORRY - this SC feature while she's wearing the orange dress???! So Showgirl coded!!!

JD IHateItHere

Stevie gave up so much in her life because she prioritized her life as a female singer/songwriter who wouldn’t do the wife/mom thing because her profession mattered that much to her. It was her iconic right choice, so to indicate Taylor can do it without losing her iconic singer/songwriter self is amazingly blessed. One diva to another as well as telling fans to back off Taylor choosing love and work. So wonderful. Thankful Taylor has Stevie as a resource and vice versa.

peachysxnrise

Yessss your so right! And the “put on some clothes” quote from the phone all is a defence to goodbye on man’s best friend

MJ

Rewatching now it all makes sense - Sabrina, Max Martin, Sweden…

Paula

Omg not you guys being on the same wavelength with taylor and understanding exactly what the Mashups ment

Hoostock

Your definitely not two random australians you are magnetic and your vibe is so special

Hoostock

I think it would be great if at some point in the future she released a vault album that had previously unreleased songs

Sean

36:00 -> yall kinda predicted that fish era with her in TLOAS in the water HAHAHA

Brittany R

Just missing the eras tour surprise songs this is a fun rewatch with the documentary.

Barb 🔆

"Aw, they don't even have a song together.".... Just wait Chickens

Barb 🔆

100% that's how I take it