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EASTER EGG Hunting in Midnights Music Videos! (Patreon)

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2024-02-12 05:00:08
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Hey besties!!

We thought we would do something a lil different this week after the announcement of Tortured Poets! We wanted to sit down and watch every Midnights music video to see if we could pick up on any easter eggs for the new album, especially given Taylor said she had been working on this album for 2 years!! 🤍

We didn't fathom a huge amount, however we wanted this to be interactive, so please feel free to watch the videos with us and see if you can find any easter eggs that we couldn't!

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Shay

I was just thinking how I missed yall tonight w no secret song reactions and yall do this 😭 this is why I ADORE YALL

Patrick Brady

GUYS, THE CHIEFS WON! My fav power couple Taylor and Travis, one weekend making Grammy history the next winning the SuperBowl omg

Ileana Isabel

Upset-ish cause chiefs won but i kinda missed it??????? Like they were tied and then all of a sudden they won??? I mean of course im happy but WHEN DID IT HAPPEN?!?!?!?!?! IM CONFUSED 😭😭😭 PD. LOVE THE NEW HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KimMcMoe

Stop! I was about to go to sleep now that the Tayvis Bowl is over and you decide to drop a fun new video!?😉😂Guess I can stay up a little longer (I’m so full of adrenaline, anyway. Might as well decompress with Swifties besties before bedtime!).🤍🤍🤍

Jasmin Mills

YAY i’m excited to watch this!! i’m on a road trip so this is perfect!!

Ellie Vannest

the fact you guys are going to the first shows after travis won the superbowl you'll be getting some SUPERIOR surprise songs!!!!

Alex Nibblett

TRAVIS WON THE SUPERBOWL HJSKFDHSKDF GIRLIES

Inigo joaquin

are you guys going to have a meet and greet in the syndey tour? My friend is flying there and was wondering if there was a chance she could get a photo with you guys for me😭 (she doesnt watch you guys but she said shed find u guys for me)

Emmy

I was also thinking this!!🤍

Kat

Besties after that win for the chiefs your surprise songs are going to be UNHINGED

Halie

Any videos you girls give us, we are happy to have 🫶🏼

Max Bowes

only thing I have fathomed was Taylor mentioning “The Manuscript” when I rewatched your “Directors on Directors” interview yesterday!

Rebecca

Mary's Song surprise song for Melbourne Night 1 now that Travis won!

Rebecca

Everyone will betray you - does she include Joe in that statement?

Bai

The Anti-Hero bedsheet ghosts remind me of the bed sheets on the TTPD cover. Am I clowning tho?

Clash Fan

I never thought about it before but just who exiled Taylor in Bejeweled? Did the Prince exile her after he tired of her? Laura Dern's character implies that by saying the Prince tired of her right before reminding her she was exiled. I'm not sure that's an Easter egg but it's a take on the aspect of her exile I didn't think about before. I guess I assumed she was referring to the cancellation but I'm not sure that's correct.

nicole

In Bejewelled when she’s doing her pin up dance for the contest, she looks so incredibly like a flapper from the 20s which could definitely be a nod to Clara Bow!

Alea

Watching this and realizing the connections also with gaining her voice back, she becomes bejeweled at the 3rd stop of the elevator which is “Speak Now” which the title of the album also includes the word speak 🤯…. Fantastic video so far, love yall

Kent

The one thing I would note from the Anti Hero mv is how she shows one version of herself who is bigger than everyone else around her. It's an interesting difference with the Smallest Man Who Ever Lived song title in TTPD, which might alude to the fact that she and Joe were truly incompatible.

ciara 🍒

1:56 “You’re just a girl, and Taylor Swift announced a new album, you’re meant to be ill.” LOL ily guys 🤍

Briony

I love these types of videos! This woman is deeply concerning in her Easter eggs and i don’t notice half of it most of the time so it’s so much fun

gracie

I kind of feel like the Midnights videos already had their treatment written, and they were shot before the concept of ttpd as an album came together fully formed...which explains why there aren't really any easter eggs for Poets in these videos. At the Tokyo shows, Taylor mentioned how she started writing for Poets not long after Midnights had been turned in, and hopefully she will share more about the timeline and which songs were written first during the Poets rollout. I think sometimes it is forgotten how glaringly obvious her easter eggs are (end of I can see you mv with 1989 TV sign, lover album title in me!, speak now nods in bejeweled, etc.). The buttons on the elevator panel in bejeweled really convince me she didn't have Poets fully formed (maybe a lot written, but not a full album concept) by the time she wrote the treatment and shot it. She had no idea what the songs she was writing would become until maybe even as early as the first three Midnights videos were shot and edited. The Midnights trailer came out with clips from all three, so we know the videos were fully shot before the album's release, given there weren't any reshoots. Sometimes we get easter eggs in hindsight, so perhaps we'll only know more with lyrics from the new album in time :)

Alex Parra

I do remember us having a fathoming in regards to the koi fish and their connection to Speak Now. We know that July 7th is National Koi Fish day, so there's that connection, sorta like how April 19 is National Poetry day or something. We had also dug up some photos and learned that John Mayer has a koi fish tattoo, as well as a 77 tattoo, you guys briefly talked about it in you Detroit N2 reaction.

Rebecca

She wants to get back to the Lavender Haze because it's gone

jordan bertges

is the picture on the bathroom wall clara bow potentially? it looks kind of like her

ella 💜

I believe in the Lavender Haze music video when Taylor's on the couch watching the TV, the man in this instance is the weather man, so maybe goes along with Joe being an actor and being on TV but also hes not there cause he's filming something for TV.

Jeremiah Bell

the shell necklace fathoming gagged me omg????

shilaakadar

bejeweled openeing scene.. the haim sister w the fan…. taylor at the grammy w the fan!!! 🪭🪭🪭🪭🪭🪭🪭

SETHIE

"she ghosted" -> there are two ghosted white vinyl discs for TTPD... TEA!

Megan Spencer

My sister and I were also getting very annoyed by the black thumb on 2. Our conclusion was that the blue thumb was a nod to the August announcement of 1989 TV. Taylor walking the Grammys carpet with the clock choker right at midnight and having it be a running clock symbolism the end of the Midnights era and we are now past midnight. (This also checks out with all the clock imagery being right before midnight until the end of the karma mv). When she announced TTPD the clock choker was set to 1am symbolizing it as the 1st release after the midnight era ends (clock striking 12) and the rep thumb at 2 saying it will be the 2nd release after the end of the midnights era. Not fully convinced by this lol but this is what we’ve drummed up lol

ella

watching lavender haze again and fathoming her loneliness was rlly something… especially at the end when bonny mentioned she doesn’t even look happy at all while saying she wants to stay in the lavender haze. AND BESTIES, she knocked the walls down, youd think she wants to be free and join the koi fish situation, and if koi fish represents perseverance and ambition (aka being bejeweled), its like she was abt to be free but you’ll notice THE CLOUD ENVELOPS her again, and shes back in the cloud/haze and not amongst the koi

Bai

There is something about the beginning of Bejeweled, Lavender Haze, and the end of Karma with the ticking clock that feels very reminiscent of waiting, longing, counting down even. I think y’all are right. The ticking of Midnights will lead to the TTPD explosion. Tick tick tick of love bombs.

David Arch

EASTER EGG HUTING FOR PAST ERAS!!! ❤️🤍

Bai

I also don’t think we are getting Rep this year. Fine by me. I’m too excited for TTPD.

Ty Bowers

Go look at the Time magazine collage with the beads! there are 6 loose letter beads that spell out Poet IV

Rebecca

There was Nov 10 on her website with the snake. We might get Reputation this year on that date

Shay

Words can’t describe how grateful I am to be entering into a new ts era with this community😭 And Bonny and Emily I’m so grateful for ur existence & for the beautiful energy you both bring into everything you do for us here and I’m getting emotional I feel like I’ve finally found my place and it’s here w yall 😭

David Arch

A DEEP DIVE FOR EASTER EGGS!

justine

i was LITERALLY just thinking that you guys should do this

angel (plnkblue)

I fully believe that the black nail is only a result of her having eras themed nail polish at the time of filming, and that if it means anything, it means either 1) It's part of the black and white red herring, or 2) She's going to release Rep tv in February of 2025. The latter would continue the 1 album > 2 rerecords > 1 album > 2 rerecords per year pattern, and if she announces it on the last day of the 2024 Eras Tour (right before her birthday this year), it'll give us about 2 months between the announcement and the release, which follows the same kind of pattern we got with Speak Now and 1989.

Emily Denyer

The coffee cup is a cup of Joe, not sure if that's a Us thing or worldwide

Gary

At this point I'm seriously wondering if the nail placement/color in Karma is either a purposeful red herring or a 5 holes in the fence situation. Maybe the implication is just that she has eras nails (which usually have 1989/Rep on the thumbs) as a nod to fans getting them, and the placement didn't mean anything?

Polinaxyz

I was thinking the same thing

Alana Ashley

Okay but the fan and Taylor in the tiny two piece suit while on stage, in the Bejeweled music video kinda looks like Clara Bow vibes like the way she dresses it’s also a nod to Midnights but definitely not Speak Now or 1989 nods because that’s just not the aesthetic really, but it just caught my eye that she looked so old glam while being bejeweled like Ms. Clara Bow herself maybe either way I’m just so excited I can’t contain it :/

gracie

its marjorie!

Derick Mitchell Matthews

Such a privilege to live in Taylor's world and to be endlessly inspired by her while her meteoric success only continues to heighten; Travis and Tay have to be having the time of their lives right now 👑 Brilliant video BTW guys; Bonnie lying through her teeth is exactly what it was and it's just devastating because you see the koi fish representing like you said the hope and prosperity all waiting for her but she chose to go back and be enveloped by the gray cloud of Joe! Just mind-blowing how deep our girl is 🙌 Thanks so much again guys literally this space is the only way I'm able to meet uncloseted Swifties lol 🔥💙 🤍

Jenny M

Did you notice the roman numeral for 4 is IIII in the coffee cup instead of IV.

redraddash

I haven't rewatched Anti-Hero in forever and to me it looks like she shows why they broke up - her pop star persona is to blame. And she was convinced it was her fault but now she feels like it was not her fault.

Brittany Diamond

The girls having a little treat is always the most wholesome thing

Clara

I don’t know if I even fully believe this anymore but the guy sitting at the piano in the end of the karma mv to me resembles either Jack or Matty. Ever since the video came out I thought this hinted at their upcoming 1989/TS11 collaboration which I fully believe is true since the 1975 was supposed to be on slut! but she scrapped it due to the controversy and breakup. I also always had a feeling that whatever music they worked on that didn’t make it to midnights was going to be part of TS11 and now judging by the album cover and track titles, I can definitely see that Taylor was inspired by the 1975s work and possible was even planning on having them on the record again. It could be Jack too though since they obviously work on a lot of music together. I would hate for her to never release anything that she made with the band though because I’m a huge 1975 fan :(

Bianca Doyle

During the funeral scene in Anti Hero all the funeral attendees are wearing black with WHITE hair, an interesting stylistic choice and remind me of TTPD's black and white theme

Clara

I’m thinking when she filmed the karma mv she wasn’t fully done with TTPD and was probably unsure of when she was gonna release that so having rep tv appear to be next after 1989 tv probably made a lot of sense for her back then. I think she would’ve announced or have dropped rep tv at this point during february but sometime late last year she decided that she wanted to release TS11 sooner

Gary

This is very possible also. Even in the Time Person of the Year interview she’s been talking about RepTV, so this could be a fairly recent change.

Clara

was there shots of the karma mv in the midnights trailer or was it just the other 3? I can’t remember

Kirrily Lewis

I kinda thought the weather man was her boyfriend in this music video. Kinda looks like him and to me it’s like she is trapped inside hiding and she’s watching him on tv like she would watch Joes movies (guy on the screen coming straight home to me) and the lavender is growing up around her like she has blinders on she can’t see anything except for him.

Takara

My ☕️ theory: Exile ends 2 (Feb) lined up to the Grammys and end of Midnights era in Feb. The coffee cup was saying the Midnights eras is ending (striking midnight) IN BETWEEN the 1989 and Rep re-records. A new era after midnight - it’s also a White foam as opposed to just coffee w cream. The Rep re-record will come after TTPD. I honestly don’t know when that’ll be but I am personally not expecting it this year.

Kirrily Lewis

And what are the numbers on the weather forecast. 13, 75, 68, 60with a down arrow, 66, 70, 78 and another 13.

Kellie

My LH thought is the Koi fish are just symbolizing the fish bowl of the public (with a nice Speak Now hint) and how the haze has maybe made staying inside tolerable but as she’s up with insomnia, or watching her love on the tv, clearly alone (Dear Reader nod), that the haze isn’t enough any more and that’s why she pushes the walls down (and immediately pulls the cloud she’s on over her head because maybe she wasn’t actually ready for the reality?). I think the party scenes are also really interesting because even though they are with others, they’re so loved up they are still really isolated. (Friends found friends who cared).

Alexa

not sure if you talked about this before - but isn’t “teatime” something fundamentally British, implying that Joe’s family or friends were gossiping about her being the “problem”?

Arne Cabigas

i feel like the talent portion in the bejeweled mv hints on clara bow. the costume, the hair, overall aesthetic

Bianca Doyle

is the Earthquake in the Spotify video a reference to this Dress lyric: Flashback to my mistakes My rebounds, my earthquakes Even in my worst lies You saw the truth in me I just wonder if she is suggesting that not only was she lying to herself about her relationship with Joe but also to us. And now an earthquake will reveal the whole truth. Hmmmm...

Kirrily Lewis

I think the black nail was the red herring distraction!! Or I wonder if she will surprise us and drop rep tv with TPD

Bobhog

perhaps not related to this video, but…Personally, I’m stuck on “tick tick tick of love bombs” being a reference to love bombing - the manipulative concept of selectively giving love to keep control. I feel like she might be spelling out a lot there.

Brittany Diamond

The bait and switch of Poets instead of reputation really feeds into the fact that the relationship was a lot harder than everyone thought. As if she's saying 'you think the relationship was like this (rep) but it was actually THIS (Poets) and if you're going to fully fathom rep and its vault tracks, you need to know the full story first.' And the fact that it entirely re-contextualizes 'every bait and switch was a work of art' simply astounds me.

Emily Hutchinson

There's a black and white photo in the background of the bathroom scene in Anti-Hero, could be Clara Bow???

Bianca Doyle

Omg that is an interesting point. Very sad and shitty for her if true.

Bianca Doyle

Oh and now we know TTPD is coming in April the 4th month...so maybe she was trying to empathize April by having the Roman numeral wrong on purpose

Jo

In the Lavender Haze video, 66 is over South Dakota and the area code for South Dakota is 605 (6+0+5 = 11). She announced her 11th album at the 66th Grammys.

Jo

There is a Coat of Arms on the wine bottle in the Anti-Hero video: "My tarnished coat of arms." Also, in Anti-Hero, all the guests attending the funeral are in black with white hair and throughout the video there are a few black and white artworks, which I think may be hinting at TTPD.

angel (plnkblue)

I really wish there was a high quality shot of the book that's on the coffee table during the scenes in which Taylor and her double are first doing shots/smashing the guitar. It's so blurry but I really wonder if it could have been smth allusive if we were able to see it. And there's no Anti-Hero behind the scenes video either.... 😭

angel (plnkblue)

I thought that at first, but I think it's a picture of her grandmother Marjorie. Similar to how the Karma music video opens with the record player underneath a painting of Long Pond Studios--it's not a predictive easter egg, but a self-referential ones to things that are already part of her "lore," like cats or 13's. Edit: Yes, the picture is of Marjorie; you can see the same one in the Marjorie lyric video at 1 minute in.

Lan

The pronunciation of "Koi" actually also means "Love" in Japanese!

Carla

yayyy this makes me so happy to come home to this video today!!! <33

Annika 📍Melb, AU

During the martini scene in Bejeweled they are very old Hollywood burlesque 20s - wearing white. White for TTPD and giving the vibe of the era. Reminiscent of Clara Bow???

gracie

It was just the other three… we wouldn’t learn about the karma remix + video until around the New York eras shows, which was when she premiered the video!

Mafalda

Is it just me or, in Karma, the two planets are the two albums? Blue for midnights and brown for TTPD. That’s why Ice Spice is in the shell (little mermaid reference) and she’s the one holding the brown rope to hold the planet down. Just googled saturn symbolism (as the planet she’s holding) and one of them is liberation!! Also, the boat they’re in reminds me of Charon in greek mothology, the ferryman who takes souls from the world of the living to the world of the dead, but in this case, it could be Taylor as the ferryman bringing herself (in this case Ice Spice) back from the world of the dead??

Louise Chadwick

She did give us a possible easter egg for debut tv in her speech before the outside surprise song performance, but i am stumped with rep tv. I also don’t think she could drop it now because that is a lot of merch & vinyls to drop and ask us to buy etc

Sarah

Okay my mind is blown reading this, I think you're right that makes so much sense!

Farah Canicosa

I think she won't waste the opportunity to release reputation TV in 2025 when it's year of the SNAKE.

Hollie

I always thought rep will be a surprise drop “there will be no explanation…” during one of the Australia shows because of the black nail on 2. But damn now I don’t know what to believe anymore.🫣

snvynz

to add from that theory about the clock being shown always before it strikes midnight, could it draw inspiration from the Doomsday Clock where how near we're from midnight is how near we are from hell breaking loose, meaning midnight is the chaos? and why she might be showing us BEFORE it strikes is because she wants to stay in that lavender haze before we meet her at midnight? and who is that girl in the bathroom from Anti-Hero in the frame? could that be Clara Bow?

Cohan Russell

I don’t know if I was just in the dark, but in Bejewelled MV is it a classical orchestra version of Long live playing for the whole last section of on the balcony??

Malika Brown

I’ve always been put off by the fact that Joe wrote the first verse of exile. Like what possessed him to write something so sad with no prompting? But the fact that it may be the only ‘sad song’ (YLM) that’s actually about them makes it make so much more sense why it’s featured in Bejeweled. That song is a symbol of their relationship and it is ending in midnights but it’s not over yet.

daniel fernandez evans

During the antihero mv there’s a moment where she’s making notes about betrayal. This could be an easter egg as she’s writing down something that would feel like torture. •wearing a lot of black is usually a sign of grief or sadness. •In the bejewelled video the Haim Sisters are fanning themselves at the beginning of the mv as they’re bullying or “tormenting” Taylor. There are also fans throughout the rest of the clip. From the 16th century onwards women used their fans to convey coded messages that were understood by both sexes (The tortured poets album has 16 songs). •She also has her hair braided whilst she’s cleaning the floor, I believe she also has her hair braided when she’s at the summit in Karma and then at the Grammy’s event. The meaning of “braiding” as a writer/poet is when an essay/piece of work is broken into sections leaving a white space in between, lines of white space on a page where there are no words (much like stanzas in poetry), and each time there is a section break, the writer moves from one “thread” to another. •The initial purpose of The empire state building which is also featured in this mv was mainly for corporate office use. But it got to a rocky start due to the “crash” stock market and the onset of THE GREAT DEPRESSION!!! I’ll might be reading too much into it but felt the need to post it!

labyrinthpeaches

I'm thinking she probably didn't leave too many Easter eggs for TTPD in Midnights things because she ended up writing a lot of it on the US tour, but who knows! And the Exile ends necklace does seem like it could be something :D I don't think we'll get reputation before or close to this new album because of what she said about having to turn in albums in advance to make vinyls so I think she'd do them further apart, and just to give them each their own time in the spotlight, if we do get reputation this year maybe it'll be closer to it's original release date in November, or maybe that's when she'll announce it and then we'll get it early next year!

Jessie 🌸

I mean this comment in the nicest way possible, but I really hope you are both being so kind to yourselves with all of this unecessary and insane hate/scammy accounts. Feel like you both seem a little deflated. Take time to rest and ignore all that bullshit! Your shows with Mother are soon xxxxx

CamilleC

i think there is something in the way she has been dressing in the fall, remember the skirts? idk maybe it could be link to this tortured poet/emo/hipsters/school girl vibes, i see something but can't express it

Natalie Sagova

I think reputation is coming soon… taylor nation said on igs are you ready for it and Travis Kelce said it before the game

Ruby Ozolins

Just love you guys - thank you for this refathoming!! On the karma cup and the rep nails - have you seen this guy on TikTok? Clever, articulate and well thought out ideas! He thinks perhaps this year is just tortured poets, and then next year when she DIRECTS HER FIRST FEATURE FILM she can release the re-records while she is busy with other things. So maybe rep is Feb next year 💁🏼‍♀️ https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFYxW1Hq/

Pratibha

One thing I noticed about the Karma MV is that it has a lot of Greek God references - the Earth and the Sky (Ouranos and Gaia), Hades and Themis, and the ferryman Charon In the beginning the scene flips from Themis (gold) to Hades (black) so maybe it's like it's the hidden persona of her ex that she had painted gold (nod to Alchemy)..... Another thing is that Hades also means 'the unseen one'. And in Lavender Haze MV, lavender in flower language is, among other meanings, *silence*, devotion, affection !!!!! Soooooo there's that symbolism there

Courtney D

I agree with Emily, I think each album will get its own moment. She said on tour the albums need to be turned in early for the vinyls to be made. It seems strange that she would mix the complexity of a release for two albums at the same time. Also, she seems really proud of Poets, I think she wants to let the focus be on that for a while. Most likely she will drop the final two at some point during the rest of the tour. And then she will own all her music and get to move on to Travis era music! What a ride...also with all the big names deciding to make country albums at the moment, it makes me think Taylor will definitely join that party at some point (Ally Sheehan's dream)!!

alden

wonder why there are so many folklore references in these music videos - ‘exile’ being brought up constantly in bejeweled and the ‘seven’ ref (moon & saturn) in karma .. very curious indeed lol

Alberto

In relation to the coffee in the Karma music video, now in every story that TN is posting (including the second picture in the TTPD announcement post) there is a coffee cup shaped stain, almost as if she’s been trying to solve the case (their relationship’s breakdown) on her DESK, drinking coffee in her house alone with her cats (there is even a paw shaped stain alongside the coffee cup one).

becky

The beginning of lavender haze when she is lying on the bed is a little like ttpd album cover

Alberto

What if the 2 in the coffe cup represented February 2025? But again, in The Man wall reputation has 2024 in it… but how long could she have planned all of this seriously? I don’t knowwwww

Gianluca

simply how dare she, if but daddy I love him is ariel coded you guys won't see me again because what is actually Happening??? ariel has always been my favorite and ive been writing poems for so long now. And she realeses an album about POEMS..... i cannot!

anntallogy

she make 2 on her fingers at grammy, at one(maybe not one) concert in tokyo, post malone make 2 at superbowl and we have 2 on the clock here. this 2 is huge, but we don’t know how much exactly

anntallogy

did someone noted about british way if writing “favourite” in “my boy only broke his favoUrite toy”

Kara Mills

To me the brunette girl in bejewelled looks a bit like clara bow. Taylor is coming actions which could represent her following in her footsteps to being "the it girl" etc

lachdav

the only thing that comes to mind is that in karma, the clock hand goes from 11 to 12 and because it's in between 1989 and rep, could it just be showing that we were getting ts11 before rep? or that we'd also get ts12 before then too? all too unwell at everything and no idea what will happen this year

Kara Mills

Her outfit as Dorothy could be an easter egg, dorothy is blue and white but she is weaing white with some black lace like the cover

Emma

The most obvious Easter egg that comes to mind that I’ve seen, that’s been there since beginning of tour. Is the fact that there are 11 colours on the confetti that comes out during Karma, one for each era and then there’s a WHITE one!! She’s literally given us this since first show of the tour (I think at least). Every color for every era and then one white piece🤯

Brynna Scarbrough

I kinda think Karma MV could just be a celebration of the Eras tour. I guess it could have some easter eggs, like the coffee cup, but I think there’s a lot of imagery that is giving all of her eras, not just 1989, rep, and debut. So maybe it seems chaotic and constantly changing imagery because she’s trying to say that this tour and its success is the representation of karma in her life.

Robin Tang

I think she’ll still announce rep tv sometime in Feb. The twist is it will be released the same day as TTPD, and creates a “double album”. My theories to why it makes sense: 1. The “black and white” visuals fit rep tv and TTPD perfectly; 2. The “double album” will symbolize the bookends of her relationship with Joe (rep tv as beginning, TTPD as dissolution), which is quite poetic ;-); 3. Combining the narratives will give us the full picture. Usually when we look at something from all angles, it becomes more clear (in other words: “black and white”), echoing the visuals of the “double album”; 4. The Beatles connection - Taylor has been hanging out with Paul McCartney at Super Bowl and went out of her way recently to emphasize the link between him and “Sweet Nothing”. Arguably the highlight of The Beatles’ career is their last album, which is famously called The White Album, and it’s, you guessed it, a “double album”. I rest my case.

Cristina

Who is in the photo frame in the back at 9:50? Is that Clara bow?

Renee

Maybe the pocket watch stops at two because the relationship wasn't over yet

justin henri

could speak now reference both her third album rerecording and her voiceless era? speak now as an album concept has always been her desire to speak brutal honest truth and she's realizing that again as she ponders the end of her six-year relationship?

Josie Bicknelle

i fathomed that in wizard of oz that Dorothy is from KANSAS… possibly a coincidence but if it it’s then that’s insane either way

Maja Nilsson

In Cinderella doesn’t the enchantment end at midnight? The carriage and lackeys turning back into a pumpkin and mice, as in the lavender haze is gone and the alchemy has stopped working: their love is no longer enchanting. Also, I think koi fish is symbolic of Pisces, Joe’s star sign.

Katy Carman

I wonder if the nails are her eras tour nails? Because 1989 on her fifth nail and rep on her 6th in a row. And her walking to the piano with a coffee and the clock striking midnight so maybe it’s symbolic of her on the eras tour continuing to write songs at midnight??? But now instead of for midnights it was actually for tortured poets! I think it could definitely be showing which re-records are coming next, maybe it will be Feb of 2025???

Sacred_sunflower

The tea cup in the first Scene is white… is poets the Tea?!? On the relationship???!! 🤍 ☕️

Lisa

Wait... In the Anti-Hero mv there's the phone, in the Midnights tracklist reveals she had a phone and in one of the back covers of Midnights, she had a phone... So, what's up with that???

Annika

I think it’s possible that rep is going to be announced (maybe released) in Feb, ttpd in April and I feel like Debut might be coming towards the end of the year and 2025 will be the fresh start (maybe with a new album)

Ariel Powell

I just had a thought about the coffee cup, the clock is reading 11:57 = 11 + 5 + 7 = 23 and the black nail on 2… Feb 23 is a Friday 👀 like I didn’t think we’d get rep before BUT NOW … wtf

F1Swiftie

I am watching older C&R videos and currently on the TIFF reaction. Her TIFF appearance was taped Sept 2022 and she’s talking about movies giving her inspiration. Specifically 70s movies about very entwined couples unraveling in front of you with awful heartbreak (Love Story, Kramer v Kramer, The Way We Were). This was when Midnights was announced but not out yet and no one knew what it was going to be. She and Joe were not officially broken up yet at the time. This was a perfect description of Midnights in hindsight. She also mentions a movie synopsis of Souvenir Part 2: “a girl who goes through a horrible heartbreak and then makes something out of it.” Both Midnights and TTPD descriptions?

F1Swiftie

The photo on the wall in the bathroom is Marjorie, her grandmother.

Ottie Rose

All the storms and clouds in Lavender Haze makes me think of “I glared at you with storms in my eyes” and he’s just sleeping peacefully unaware that she’s reeling in the middle of the night. Also, her crawling to the weatherman and being blinded by the lavender so that all she can see is him… but he can’t see her through the screen… um “a pathological people pleaser who only wanted you to see her”. ALSO, making the sky on the back makes me think of alchemy. Trying to make him into something else to keep her interested and in awe of him. 🤷‍♀️ Another thing I just noticed was during Lavender Haze it seemed like every time she said, “wife” or “bride” the camera would cut her off in the middle and focus on something else… Maybe every time she tried to mention marriage to Joe he would cut her off?

Sacred_sunflower

One of the koi fish is white! 🤍 so it the tea cup and coffee cup!

Sacred_sunflower

The dancers in the final bejeweled scene are all wearing white costumes

Lisa

Yes! I also fathomed the Cinderella thing recently.

Jenna Bolmgren

This probably has nothing to do with anything, but yesterday at the Super Bowl, the back of her jacket had 60 on it (odd)... and in the LH weather forecast, there are two darker dots w/ arrows (one down, one up) that say 60. She's been flashing twos a lot lately... Probably no correlation, but worth noting.

✨Bri✨

Something I just noticed was in the bejeweled music video how the cloak she wears in the elevator has that hood and everybody related it to Rep (her Joe love album) and when she gets to the speak now room she throws it off like I’m free! I just realized that that was a good representation of her becoming bejeweled again and feeling like she isn’t stuck in the basement anymore.

Jenna Bolmgren

And in her tiktok on 3/31/23, of the montage of leading up to the Eras Tour, there is a white mic 🤷‍♀️

Taylor

In the lavender haze music video, they are loved up when they are around other people and when the people are gone she’s alone

anntallogy

lavander haze mv as I see it like for the first time 1st verse - beginning/smth like that of their relationship, she is in her melancholy, but she doesn’t bother him with it, and she sees that her touch open the Universe on him/with him, this makes her to start the haze, she feels the haze. 2nd verse- he is away, working, she sees him only at screen, but she remembers the haze she felt with him & she create another form of this haze, trying to see in him on screen not just a Universe but Her Universe (with Koy fishes). Personally understand this form of being alone, missing him. The lavender bath - it’s idk what, don’t want to make it up for nothing, but still another form of lavander obsession The party - IDK for mymemory, Joe & Taylor seems like hanging out with his:her friends often / they used to have their own secrets moments in a crowded room, so this makes her to start the haze from her again Then badabum and she is like - screw your walls, I hold MY own Universe from ME if your wall & the only thing that holds me in that walls is the haze that I create MYSELF and she fly away into her own Universe on Poets cloud

Taylor

Ok did anyone see the framed picture on the wall in the bathroom scene in the Anti Hero music video? Is the supposed to be Marjorie or maybe Clara Bow? 👀

Shannon Gilhooly

Was that a phoenix on the wine bottle in anti hero dinner scene?

Jenna Bolmgren

I think it was during the Grammy's, but Megan Thee Stallion was in a commercial and it reminded me a ton of the LH music video (purple floating clouds) and Karma mv (glowing lasso/rope). I don't think it's related to anything, just found it interesting.

Jenna Bolmgren

Or the "you drew stars around my scars but now I'm bleeding"

Emmie

That’s might sounds crazy but the pocket watch is giving me Alice in wonderland vibes. The white rabbit has the pocket watch that’s suppose to tell him when the queen arrives but its always late. Also they are stuck at a tea party forever at 6 oclock where he sits and says lots of riddles and poetry when Alice arrives. Also she says things like “at tea time, everybody agree”. What’s weird is the mad hatter gets stuck at tea time after badly performing a song and Alice slays dragons🤣😅 no idea where I am going with this but could she maybe make reference in a song to her as Alice or the mad hatter! We know long story short, wonderland and I bet you think about me make reference to Lewis carroll’s story. Plus she has made loads of Alice in wonderland reference in interviews🙃

idadler

To the point Bonny was making, that Lavender Haze sort of means that you can't see the problems in the relationship because of the smoke, the weeds etc., I had a thought. In the MV her partner is the person giving the weather report, no? So it could mean that she thinks he sort of dictates or sets the weather ie. the mood in the relationship and by watching the weather report she hopes that he will announce sunnier/happier times.

Georgi Varavko

the begging pf this video is so… “poets”

Jenna Bolmgren

Taylor's earrings in the lightbulb scene in Karma mv remind me of the elevator background in Bejeweled... I've always tried to make sense of the elevator walls bc they seem so ornate to not mean anything.

Kellie Mahoney

I think all of the art deco and old Hollywood/flapper esthetic if a reference to Tortured Poets. It seems like there are a lot of 1920’s references in the imagery and tracklist we have so far

Katie

Wait! Right before the coffee cup strikes midnight in the karma music video, there are 11 black keys in that shot of the piano! And it could actually be tea (aka london fog…so long, london) Offensive!!

Naderge

in the anti-hero music hero, she’s breaking the speak now guitar. what if that was referencing clara bow and the whole ‘silent film era’, like she chose not to speak now hence the breaking of the guitar…

Tess7

I think TS11 is shown in the coffee cup scene. She puts the cup down and we can see 11 black keys on the piano. The clock strikes midnight and TS11 is announced in Feb. The blue nail pointing at 8 was 1989TV but after striking midnight on the clock, the next thing was surprise, a new album. Black keys = black nail on 2. She knew we would all see it as a Rep clue. The lightbulb scene I took as 3 was Speak Now, then the 5 were 1989. Why they explode, I do not know lol I could be totally wrong but I love fathoming with you guys 😀

Ramon❀°。

"But daddy I love Him" is giving The Notebook as well !

Eliza

GUYS i know this is long but I was fathoming so much while writing I would really appreciate you reading this especially the part about the EXILE thing and the bejewled MV being a "flashforward". Ok the fathoming begins: Look at the elevator buttons in bejeweled. TS11 looks to be a maroon in comparison with TS4 (red, the breakup album). TS11 is going to be the breakup album but after a 6 year relationship, not a 3 month one, so obviously the pain and the color is going to be darker like blood. And this is not farfetched because yes even tho we as a fandom see TS11 as black & white so the red button "doesnt make sense"-- look at how she chose the color for TS10. It's orange. Fans see Midnights as this navy blue. But the orange elevator button is how SHE sees the album, a reminder that not everything is as it seems and her album themes aren't to be taken at face value. The dark blood-red TS11 I think can be her foreshadowing TTPD, saying it will be the hardest album she had to write/experience because of the immense heartbreak. To analyze further, look at TS12. I doubt at the point of the bejeweled MV she knew what TS12 was (maybe she did have a figment of what it will be) but she created a button that was sparkly and beautiful to signify the type of music she wants to release after the joe album (also the button is bejeweled themed, signifying she might not actually be feeling bejewled right now, but by the time TS12 is being written, she hopes to be over the breakup and find herself again-- MAYBE this bejeweled MV is actually taking place in the FUTURE. How she SEES herself regaining her sparkle and her CASTLE after being EXILED by the prince--"joe"-- after he got TIRED of her, and this music video is a flashforward of how she sees herself stepping back into her fame and getting her castle keys back but this time WITHOUT THE PRINCE aka JOE. This music video is literally her manifesting in 2022 what is currently happening as of 2024). Also back to the TS12 button-- the button looks like it represents the idea of bejeweled and what if this whole music video is an ode to what she wants TS12 to be. Like TTPD is her saying goodbye to joe and closing the door on that era of her life. So she already knows once TTPD is turned in, her "exile" is finally once and for all over, and now she can be bejeweled and write TS12 as THE bejeweled queen of the world album. And look at her now. She's very likely ALREADY STARTED WRITING TS12 and she's literally ON TOP OF THE WORLD. Just like the bejeweled MV. She manifested 2024 through this MV. She's always said she knows what she's gonna do 2 years in advance!!!! *** "I can reclaim the land-- I miss you, but I miss sparkling!!!" *** ** "When I meet the band and they ask do u have a man, I can say I don't remember"** -------(she's imagining the point in her future where she will forget about joe and no longer remember all the pain) **the marriage proposal at the end of the music video is playful-- almost sarcastic. we know from YLM joe likely didn't want to marry her, and here she's rejecting the prince aka joe's proposal to reclaim her castle. It seems at this point she knows she has to release the joe album after midnights, and is almost dreading the process of it given her pain. But she puts the sparkly TS12 button there as motivation for her as she knows after she releases the joe album, she sees herself wanting to create maybe more "happy" music, or self-loving music, because that's her goal for herself to get over the breakup and get out there and SHINE (literally what she's doing RIGHT NOW). it's just at the point of this MV, she knows that it will be a journey and she's not up to that sparkly 12 button yet-- she has to first go through the depths of despair with TTPD.

Eliza

For a second i thought the same-- but it is marjorie!!

Elis Llinares

I have thoughts about the beginning of the Bejeweled mv. The girls with the fans (which Taylor brought out at the Grammys)… they say “if you win (the talent show) you get the keys to your own castle and a marriage proposal from the prince”… it pans to Taylor giving a side look. As the story unfolds you realize it’s not quite like Cinderella, because stepmom says “I simply love a proposal, the single most defining thing a lady can hope to achieve in her lifetime.” Stepmom has 8 engagement rings… Taylor has had 8 “known relationships” up until that point (not counting school time), but counting Joe who wouldn’t marry her. Then stepmom says “ladies, worry not, even if she were allowed to go, which she is not (🚨), the prince (Joe) would never have anything to do with that little harlot again (so Cinderella already had her chance with the prince who didn’t propose and kept her locked up). He tired of her quite quickly.” I mean… silly me thinking they were talking about CH back when this was released, but it was Joe all along.

Fanny Bureau

Side note it wouldnt be “rushing it” to rerelease rep now, that’s still two months to poets, and that’s how much time she gave to Speak Now TV and 1989 TV

Maria GB

Before anything else I just need to say; I LOVE THE NEW SETUP!!!!!!!! it’s so pretty you guys

forevermore

omg the fact that all the clock visuals in midnights are before/end at midnight, then at the grammys she made sure her choker watch was set to midnight and then moved forward!!

Cher

Genius!

Mick

11 cats on the painting during the anti hero funeral scene??!!

Kaitlyn Crigler

Ok omg did anyone else notice that in the Anti-Hero video, performer Taylor has a jewel freckle under her eye? And in the Bejewled video, Laura Dern and Dita Von Teese both have a freckle under THEIR eye. Then, once Taylor wins the competition and is taking pics with the prince, she has a sparkly heart freckle under her eye. And once AGAIN, as she’s walking out on the castle balcony, she has a regular freckle under her eye. Why is this important?! Because in the first image that shows up on Google when you search Clara Bow, she has a fucking freckle under her eye!!!

Jenna

HOLD ON... is that Clara Bow on the wall in the Anti-Hero video when Taylor is weighing herself on the scale?

Mia Hauffe

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I would be interested in seeing Em&Bon do this type of video for the Midnights Mayhem track list rollout for Midnights! There’s a lot of different things Taylor did in those that I feel like have only been speculations about Easter eggs for Speak Now TV and 1989 TV. It’s possible that there’s Easter eggs for TTPD in those!

MsWaldo2009

Taylor said in the Vogue Interview, that one of her favourite lyrics of all times was “I had a dream there were clouds in my coffee” from the Song “Your’re so Vain” by Carly Simon. I think the scene at the end of the Karma MV, where the camera pulls up through the clouds which then ends up in the coffee cup, refers to this song and the metaphorical meaning of those lyrics. Found a great explanation from urban dictionary: “This expression was used in the 1972 Carly Simon song, "You're So Vain." To understand the meaning, it is helpful to read the full lyrics of the song. Prior to the refrain, the lyric "And all the girls dreamed that they'd be your partner They'd be your partner, and..." What was it that Simon was dreaming about? The prospect of a relationship with subject of the verse. The lyrics were written about someone after the end of a relationship, several years afterward, in fact. Simon laments that a relationship was, is, and will continue to be made impossible by the deep character flaws of the subject, most prominently, their vanity. Understanding this, 'clouds in my coffee' refers to a metaphorical distortion or illusion. Coffee is black, clouds are white and have patterns. When one sees such things reflected in the surface of a liquid, they are readily identifiable as illusion. In matters of love, illusions are more difficult to discern. Simon expresses her lament that her belief in a future with this shallow individual was illusory and that it was an illusion shared over the years by several other women, followed by the statement that the subject WOULD think the song was about them, a statement made ironic by the fact the song really is about them as, for once, they would be arriving at a correct conclusion even if for the wrong reasons. As a simile: "I thought I saw an oasis, but it was a mirage, like clouds in coffee." As a metaphor: "My dream was to be a movie star, but after many years of failure came to realize that I was seeing clouds in my coffee." I think this scene was the Easter Egg for TTPD

Cher

This, especially your illegal and concerning segment on Lavender haze, is making me realize I need a full Midnights re-fathoming.

Cardigan

WE NEED A TAYVIS fathoming Superbowl video

Cher

In the Karma video, the initial shot of her holding the scales of justice reminded me of “I weighed the evidence, make it make some sense” (Hits Different) and “I enter into evidence…” (Tortured Poets). The scales of justice (or karma) are for weighing evidence.

zachy

I'm writing this during the bejeweled section (so if you mention it later - sorry lol), but notice how the coffee cup from Karma has the white handle in between the 1989 and Rep nails?? The white cup handle could represent tortured poets as it falls in between 1989 and rep being released??

Marissa

I think it’s very curious that the sand in the hour glass in the Karma video is lavender… Like their time together is up? And when she’s holding up the golden light between her hands in the lightbulb 💡- she’s the one who makes sure the light is on, she’s the source of power that keeps them going. Until it explodes and the relationship dissolves? And with the ghosts and the all together retro vibe the Anti-Hero video reminds me of the WANEGBT video… suggesting a back and forth between breaking up and getting back together again? A LOT to fathom!

Madison Sturdevant

Regarding the "exile ends" countdown, did anyone else notice the elevator appears and *dings* right when the pocket watch would have struck 1? So the "exile ends" countdown ending is what takes her up to the other floors where she's bejeweled.

Julia Guedes

the telephone wire broke or like was deteriorated by rust maybe? the rust that grew between telephones? in retrospect, even maroon feels like it’s about joe now

Julia Guedes

“kimberly, you’re literally wearing her clothes right now”. a reference to kim k wearing marilyn monroe’s outfit for the met? 🤔

tara

okay so no idea if this is actually what's happening but the stopwatch exterior kind of looks like a seashell so maybe it's a further reference to the little mermaid and getting her voice back??? edit: LOL I had paused the video because I wanted to look at the music video up close, then wrote this comment, then pressed play and realized you guys noticed the same thing!!! 😂

Maddie

100% that its actually picture of Marjorie.

Jenna

Ah my bad lol, guess they just both have that similar '20s look

Maddie

I'm pretty sure in the Eras tour movie that she teases TS11 when she says "I've recorded 5 albums since my last tour" Lover, Folklore, Evermore, and Midnights is only 4. If she includes re-recordings then its 6. But if you include TPD, that's 5 albums...

Altamash Gaziyani

Is it just me, or is there a picture of Clara Bow in the bathroom during the weighing scale scene in the Anti Hero video…?!

tara

I also never fathomed that the fact that "she ghosted" could be in reference to deciding to leave the relationship and "but she kept the castle" could be her returning to the spotlight. (also, since the idea is she ghosted the prince could be a nod to leaving the UK since they have monarchs and "miss americana" leaving "the heartbreak prince")

Jules

Dorothy Wizard of Oz scene she’s wearing a white dress with black accents and she’s sweeping her side of the street clean, plus white jacket in champagne scene in Bejeweled

gracie

its marjorie, her grandmother

havenpeckover

Not her being in a cloud that looks like wool and she’s PULLING THE WOOL OVER HER EYES ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP. We really need to keep analyzing this album once we get the TPD perspective

Erin M

In Bejeweled, after Taylor leaves the 5th floor she is in a talent contest dressed in a flapper-esque outfit. Clara Bow was known for her flapper movies. After 1989 tv, we’re getting Tortured Poets

Ivie

The way you completely blew my mind in pointing out the tie to Ursula’s shell, and then it showing up AGAIN in Karma!!!

Michael Hodgson

The 3 under exile ends always meant March to me. I think it was a tour Easter egg for the first show being in March after this video came out. Her exile was not being able to perform?

Kasey

I didn’t put together that the weather reporter in the Lavender Haze is the same person who plays her love interest. The way she’s crawling to it through the lavender field…. Almost like she is wanting “the guy in the screen” and clinging on to that version of “Joe”.

zachy

DEVELOPMENT....my last message "notice how the coffee cup from Karma has the white handle in between the 1989 and Rep nails?? The white cup handle could represent tortured poets as it falls in between 1989 and rep being released??" .... the white coffee handle (if you follow a straight line) goes over the 1,9,4...what do those spell out??? 4/19 = release date for TTPD AND the same with 1989 tv the line follows on 8 & 2 (8 = August announcement, 8+2= 10 for October release month)....🫣🤔🤯

Nin Reckermann

I think she'll wait for the backlash from TPD with all the people probably saying she's overreacting and shit like that and then once she's at the height of that, she'll black out her socials in some way and do rep

Nin Reckermann

also have you noticed that the Eras Tour ends in december just a few days before her birthday, what if she announces something on the last show and then it's released on her birthday

Erin M

I’m gonna be a little sad when the re-record project is over because other than evermore, Taylor has not broken the 2 year album role out for new albums and it’s gonna feel like an eternity

Erin M

In December 2021 (around the time Taylor wrote You’re Losing Me) her song Ivy was used in Dickinson, a show about the famous poet Emily Dickinson. I wonder if that was a first hint at a title or theme of TS11

Agustina Sencion

when in you're losing me she says every morning i glare at you with storms in my eyes and in bejeweled she goes diamonds in my eyes i polish up real nice I CANT

Ashley Marie

the dorothy scene in karma and it opening like a book makes me think of the manuscript bonus track.

Ashley Marie

in anti hero the second taylor has a like star thing under her eye and there s a picture of Clara Bow with something similar to that.

💯

Amazing video!!!

Jen Mays

One potential Anti-Hero video easter egg: the mention of the house being turned into a cat sanctuary could be a nod to Ernest Hemingway, whose Key West Florida house became exactly that---a museum and cat sanctuary.

💯

In karma - she’s wearing a ram mask?? Last day of aries is 19 april. Day TTPD comes out!!!

Tess7

Fun fact- the koi fish guitar was taken from the exhibit in Nashville for her to use at the shows and in the video Taylor sent them the broken guitar used in the anti hero mv to put back in the exhibit so it didn’t stay empty 😃

Lisa Kell

WE NEED commentary on the CHIEFS super bowl win and the celebrating afterwards with Taylor and Travis.

yara abi karam

Am i the only one feeling like the other woman in bejeweled (with the black hair) looks a lot like Clara Bow …???

Kesja

Yes pleeeaaaaase!!

itsrachelsara

in the little mermaid 2, ariel’s daughter also has a shell necklace she discovers in the ocean that when she opens it, it shows her home (I think it’s called atlantica ??) which could also connect to exile ending!!!

Emily M

I wonder if Tortured Poets will have a piano as a main instrument for several songs. The coffee cup was placed on the piano and then "ticks" to midnight, and we know Taylor does a lot of composing on the piano when she is working out songs. (Is she bringing herself a comforting drink like in antihero so she can dive into fully fathoming and writing new songs?.....Might be reaching for that one). Also, the colour scheme of white/black of Tortured Poets/Rep is like the colour scheme of piano keys. 🎹

Hailey

The smoke she blows out in Lavender Haze is a clock! I’ve never noticed this before…

Adyson

Also I think she burned the lover house during Bad Blood because like "Bad was the blood of the song in the cab On your first trip to LA" in Invisible String thats a LOOOOT

Cristina

I feel like we brushed over the fact that she's been wearing green snakey dresses a lot before the Grammys...I guess could be that she was doing a red herring on purpose...or Easter egging years in advance like for 1989

sorvde

The coffee cup in Karma is a clock at 11:00. The nails represent the re-records. Which means, TS11 between 1989TV and RepTV

Anna B

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw a theory that Ivy was actually about Emily Dickinson and there were some pretty good justifications in the song - I think it was around her best friend/ lover Sue, who married Emily's brother

Gabriela B

Ok, I haven't watched this video yet because I've been OBSESSED with all the footage from the after Super Bowl party!!! the singing TO EACH OTHER, the dancing, kissing, oh my gosh, I cant get enough- and I need you girls to talk about it!!! :-D

Anna B

Could the coffee cup be showing the "tick tick tick" in the lyrics on the album announcement? There looks like there's 3 left before it hits midnight

Anna B

I don't whether ppl have already fathomed the upside down phones in midnight mayhem or the coffee clock, but I wondered if both were hinting at TS11? I was catching up on your refathoming of the secret songs, and think you said about the upside phones being track 3 and 8 = 11, then the coffee cup shows the minute hand pointing almost at 11 as well...

V. Babida

But what if Midnights is actually the red herring - like she really put out that album and made us all believe that everything in her relationship was okay “hiding in plain sight” and that any clues we found in music videos or lyrics were just nods to re-records but all along she’s been trying to hint at a TS11 rollout.

rylee!

i always thought the stopwatch was just another speak now egg! because the countdown started at 3 and obviously speak now was her third album... but idk the exile wording is still weird to me

Jenny MacRunnel

The 2 could just be that there are 2 rerecords left, and they'll both come out this year maybe?

💯

Which aeries starts on march 19. Watching for that day for anything to clown

Leijette Riopel

That really struck me too - that two different videos in this era had that image featured prominently. I hope I am remembering this correctly, but in The Little Mermaid, the song when King Triton’s daughters are being introduced, aren’t they in a huge shell like the one where Ice Spice is sitting in the Karma music video? When her sisters introduce Ariel, another large shell opens, but Ariel isn’t there. (Forgive me, it’s been many years since I watched that movie, so hopefully my memory isn’t wrong.) Maybe that’s a little bit of a nod to TTPD and the possible Little Mermaid reference in “But Daddy I Love Him”? Maybe she’s hinting that the shell was her prison, but when it opens, she isn’t where she was expected to be. And again, that could possibly connect to the Exile reference in “Bejeweled” - as in she left out the side door, so she isn’t waiting where we all expected her to be….? Probably a big stretch, but the seashell and Exile both seem to be such deliberate references, so I feel like they will make perfect sense to us, eventually. Another Karma reference I have been wondering about is when she is in the mountain, because it has always seemed to be such a clear reference to Te Fiti in “Moana”, a movie about a girl who feels trapped and stifled in her home and wants to run away and go on a great adventure - which is also the plot of “The Wizard of Oz, btw. On a couple of totally unrelated notes, I just noticed in the Bejeweled music video - the ending “performance” scene, Taylor is sitting on the hands of a huge clock, which are pointed directly to the right. Reminded me of the way the clock on her Grammy’s necklace was set to Midnight, but because of the way the clock was oriented on the choker, midnight had the hands pointing directly to the right. Not sure what it could mean, but maybe something? The fingernails in Karma are on either side of the coffee cup, which is primarily white. Could that just have been her telling us that a new, much larger album release which was white and brown (sepia?) toned, would be coming in between the 1989 and Rep rerecordings? I can see why people are thinking they see the Reputation album cover in the coffee mug, but since I saw that theory, I have wondered why she would be using the old Reputation cover to easter egg Rep TV? Surely the black nail was hint enough? I think the coffee mug represents TTPD, and she was telling us it was coming in between 1989 TV and Rep TV.

Lauren S.

If you look at the coffee cup at the end the white handle of the mug is in-between the blue and black nail!!! The white would be for poets!!!

Katrina

I think the confusion about when Rep is coming is due to the fact that Taylor was still writing TTPD early last year and didn't know when it would be done, so she probably was planning on releasing Rep next in April and decided to push it back for TTPD.

Morgan Davis

Could the coy fish be a reference to the coy fish guitar and just a tour in general?

Brent

my thought as you're talking about lavender haze: She's getting the stuff that's "from her desk" off her desk by giving it to us

Sara Brannon

Maybe she’ll announce RepTV on tour at the end of this year and it’ll come out next February, so the 2 could still be right?? Who knows!

Chez

I think even though she filmed the videos before midnights came out, she would have already been about 6 months - a year into writing Tortured Poets Department. Watching the Lavender Haze music video with you there has fucked me up! She really said “I’m stuck at home alone for you, but you get to be all over the TV”. Also the fact that lavender haze is the last music video she filmed before her and Joe officially broke up is really telling. She broke the house down, she walked into the clear sky with the all the koi fish and it’s was like she finally realised that she was fucking kidding herself!!! Noooooo I’m going to have to watch that music video at least a million times now.

Chez

Also the beginning of the karma video with the underworld and Dorothy scene is giving “who’s afraid of little old me?” And it’s messing with my head

Emzies

Taylor’ looks a lot like Clara Bow in her costume for the Bejeweled talent show.

Bradi R

She could be releasing (or announcing) rep TV in February of next year

airjohnpro

This video was just another reminder that I should have become a member SOONER! Thank you for making us laugh and think.

Alexandra Bennett

Isn’t the “guy on the screen coming straight home to me” aka the weather man the same man she’s in bed with???

Reese

I made a connection, with her bejeweled outfit. When she does the talent portion, Clara Bo wears something very similar in one of her movies!

Rhiannon W.

The part where they are dancing with people in Lavendar Haze…maybe that’s the perception of their relationship in front of people aka the public that they are all good. But really, she was very lonely behind the walls.

Katy Magner

Also in the U.S. the scales represent justice and law and order…. that could be a reference to her getting justice for her albums and also part of the theme of poets. I’m a Libra and scales represent Libra so I thought maybe Oct. but now I wonder

Emzies

I have been manifesting (so far unsuccessfully) from the very beginning that there will be no announcement for Rep, just a drop. I will not let this idea go.

Emzies

And maybe she wants to be done with the Joe storyline after Tortured Poets, and that’s why she would still release Rep first.

Heather

In anti hero she wears the star on her face and Clara bow also had one!

Sarah Joannette

Bare with me for this one : the first time in the elevator she push 3 (speaknowtv). After, she came back in the elevator. She push 5 (1989tv). Towards the end she is seating on the clock and it points 3. 3+5+3 = 11. In the end she is in the penthouse and ready for TS11 and to say/explain that now she is bejeweled without Joe.

Hannah

I have a theory that each of the “sides” of TTPD are sides to the story/sides to her thought processing??

Shawn carni

I can’t believe Taylor posted on tik tok! If she starts posting personal videos I will immediately die.

Hannah

Another theory, ice spice actually kinda says a lot?? If her verse was written in the breakdown close to the same time this was filmed probably, maybe Taylor told her, and if so she really says a lot!

Marie S.

her bday falls on a friday soo definitely something happening in Dic either debut or rep which leaves 7 months ish (almost 8 months tbh) for poets to have its moment (midnights and speak now was 7 months in between so it tracks) plus all the sagittarius/ constellations outfits/nods.... if nothing is related to those topics during poets lyrics/videos.... I'm clowning for Dec

Ria Shay

Maybe she brings the coffee to the piano, because tick tick tick, it’s time to finish writing. I think it could’ve been an Easter egg for TS11. Jack sitting at a piano, obviously they are writing TS11!!!!!!

P.R. Dayvonne

With the nails thing, I think she initially intended to release Rep in Feb, but she said she finished Tortured Poets during the eras tour, so then she did the Red Herring glitch on her website to be like "HA FOOLS, gotcha ;)". IDK when rep might come out, either nowish, which gives 2 months to Rep, or maybe she'll drop new easter eggs in the future about rep for a late 2024 release maybe

Cam Stokes

Y’all is it just me or does Taylor & Dita look like Clara Bow the way they are done up? & the little performance Taylor does on stage is giving pinup girl in the 30’s.. is there a way to share photos on here? I just found an advertisement of a Clara Bow performance & the outfit she’s wearing is soooo similar to what Taylor is wearing on the stage!!

Gina Bina

I think the isolation in the Lavender Haze video, esp with the watching the weather - gives vibes that she was being kept up at midnight/late at night thinking about things... while he was not bothered, sleeping fine, etc.

Kristen

when they show the building from the outside the penthouse is lit up bright white… i know it’s alluding to that being where the party is at the end, but now knowing TPD is white i’m wondering if there’s something with the elevator floors we’ve been missing!

Gina Bina

Someone in another thread pointed out that serving that cup of coffee in the Karma music video - a slang for coffee is often a cup of Joe. She's literally serving up a steaming cup of Joe.... to a man at a piano - which EITHER has to be Jack or Joe himself...

Jeannie

In that final shot of the coffee cup (in the Karma music video), before the camera zooms in slightly, we can see eleven black piano keys. Eleven for TS11? :)

Carla

guys idk if I've just fathomed something...I'm rewatching your eras tour full show reaction and at around 15:10 I'm pretty sure she says something like "I'm just curious, what's the alchemy that makes up this crowd" THE ALCHEMY?!!?! am I reaching or was that a nod to tortured poets help???

Arrow

Oh but you might be on to something with everything crashing down at midnight cos the Bejewelled mv has a lot of Cinderella imagery and her whole thing is that the illusion is destroyed at midnight and she is revealed as what she truly is!

Gustav Lucas

I do think both re-records will drop later this year, the final one close to the end of the tour (which is in November) It would be a good (but scary) way of entering 2025 with a blank slate

keti

I wonder if she still relate to the lyric “too big to hang out slowly lurching toward your favorite city” as much as she did. I mean she’s good now hanging out with the girls, partying with Travis. Doesn’t seem to be bothered to be “too big”, more enjoying this lifestyle

Lish Marie

The elevator in bejeweled, she goes to floor 3, then 5, then the penthouse but on the way up to the penthouse I just noticed floor 11 lights up but floor 12 doesn’t! That could have been an Easter egg that we are getting TS 11 after 1989.

Catherine (YOYOK stan)

So in regards to the cup shot in karma. Yes black nail on the 2 or what we see as February based off the 1989tv announcement. What if she’s just saying the black nail on 2 is a hint on something in February and then the next shot it’s 11 black piano keys for ts11 so there’s your correlation to February and ts11. However, coffee at midnight is a reference to YAIL and in the yail tv lyric video there’s hints to rep tv and the snakes on the sand. Listen I am dead set that she will surprise drop rep tv. 🤍🔜🖤

Danielle G

Will ttpd be a piano album?

Eliza

There are soooooo many "calvin" coded songs that im literally rethinking now and I literally can't help but see joe in them

kaitlyn 🤍

i LOVEEEEE this video concept omg!!! and the new set up is absolutely EVERYTHING ♥️♥️

Sandy

Apparently the account that leaked the track list for Poets said Rep is coming in September…she also has a break in her tour in Sept as she does in April… Also the alchemy just feels like how she turned her biggest fear and heartbreak into the highest point of her career and true fulfillment! Lastly the fathoming of the exile watch just broke my whole existence… so beautiful! And that it says ends 2, why did I always read that as a date? 2/3? Didn’t Poets get announced 2/4? Meaning midnights and her silence/exile end 2/3. Then the ice spice holding the pearl that came out of the shell (the beautiful thing that comes from something that is seemingly worthless -alchemy?!!) noooOo

Sandy

Yes! The scales being law and order fits into her bringing forth the evidence and case files to bring justice and speak her true thoughts of the relationship …

Jaana

I agree with Emily, I really want all the albums to have their proper moments so I’d be devastated if she releases Rep TV before TTPD.

Jennifer

I thought that too!

Cecilia Sparke

I don't like the vibe of the indoors in Lavender Haze mv, it's dark and dingy and claustrophobic. There's no light. When she knocks down the walls of the room at the end, it's like there's a whole world outside that she's been missing.

aiyla

i think rep tv is coming next year - 2025 is the year of the SNAKE in the chinese new year !!

Laura R

Just had a thought--this would be a super random easter egg if it was one--but remember when she was alternating wearing blue and black outfits leading up to the 1989TV release? Obviously, it could just be that 1989 was coming and Rep was coming after. But I just had a moment realizing that "black and blue" is an idiom for being bruised. As in "my muses acquired like bruises." I looked up the meaning of the idiom, and this is what came up: "The idiom 'black and blue' typically means to be badly bruised from physical injury. It refers to the discoloration that occurs when someone sustains bruises on their body. The phrase can also be used metaphorically to describe feeling emotionally or mentally battered or abused." If the "acquired like bruises" thing comes up more significantly in the album, then maybe the outfits were easter eggs for TTPD? If not, then everything I just said is nonsense.

Charlotte Irene

Since TTPD track list was leaked on TikTok in January, it does seem like maybe Taylor HAD to announce TS11 at the Grammy‘s. The original plan may have been to announce Rep TV in February, but the plan had to change after the leak.

Tiana Kirk

Idk if it's been mentioned yet - just rewatching the Bejeweled video and thinking about You're Losing Me -- at the beginning, Laura Dern's character mentions that the prince has "grown tired" of Taylor's character and at the end because she has "won" the talent competition or his affections back, Jack's character proposes and she ghosts but he shrugs as if he didn't care what her answer was. Maybe after years of "getting tired of her scheming", (anti-hero), maybe that's conversations about their future together or the Lover album's title track and Paper Rings letting Joe know her intentions, maybe he was "worn down" / "got tired" and just proposed knowing it was what she wanted but she said no, knowing it wasn't actually what he wanted and he was perfectly okay with that. Joe gets what he wants and Taylor says So Long to London

Ivey B

No idea if someone has already shared this idea, but the teacup/saucer in between the blue 1989 and black Rep nail is WHITE. Possible Easter egg that TTPD was always going to be released between them

Geneva

OMG you know what I just fathomed... - In Lavender Haze, she's realizing she can draw stars/a galaxy on his back while he's asleep, meaning she's only seeing that stuff when he's not awake to block out her aspirations of freedom. - The weatherman IS the guy on the screen (Joe), and she's stuck inside the house watching him, but it's boring anyway cause the weather is all he can give. - Finally, she reaches through the screen to expose the galaxy behind the facade she thought she was stuck in, to show her the freedom she so desperately wanted. She breaks down the walls of the house and into where she's meant to be.

Krystle Aceski

when you guys were watching the Lavender haze music video I had a thought about the scenes where she is together with the guy. What we see there is so very similar to what we have seen of her and Travis since Sunday. Them dancing and being openly affectionate. Perhaps she was thinking about what she wishes her and Joe were like. She for sure looks unhappy in most of the video.

Krystle Aceski

just the first 3 videos. She recorded the Karma remix with ice spice in 2023 thus did the video then too I assume

Nicole Barber

I’m rewatching your midnights reaction over on yt and just thought of a brilliant video idea for pre-poets release.. a relisten/partial breakdown of the full midnights album with the current knowledge of the breakup and how that changes the meaning of so many of the songs. Would be a GREAT preface for the new music. Pleeeeeeease lol.

Alise Waite

In the anti-hero video, when her children fight over her legacy, desperate for clues, do we think it's a metaphor for us, the fans? It's interesting after that scene, her popstar self emerges from the coffin and seeks solace with the ‘normal’ version of Taylor on the roof, welcoming her with the bottle of wine.

Dorka

I think the meaning of the stopwatch ending at "2" can be that she is still giving a chance like it is not over. Because if I remember well, at this point, there was no official break up yet. So she is considering leaving (from exile), she is counting, giving another chance, but there is no end yet.

Alexa

“Did you hear my covert narcissism I disguise as altruism” – also makes me think twice. “Did you hear” implies some kind of gossip, like this is not something she concluded about herself, but someone else did. And “narcissism I disguise as altruism” sounds to me a lot like what a therapist would say. And whose mom is a therapist? 🤡

Lin Gill

Yes, please! I would love to see a reaction to Taylor and Travis after the Super Bowl and at the after party.

Krystle Aceski

I completely think this as well. I also think she feels rep doesn't need a long drawn out release because it's the love album for Joe and now that she's moved on and we have the break up album coming she just wants rep over and done with. I think she will drop it without an announcement before ts11.

Krystle Aceski

were they already dating when the MV was filmed?

Krystle Aceski

someone said the 60 was for the Chiefs 60th anniversary or something

Andrea

Interesting that there are ELEVEN cats in the picture with her at the funeral in the anti-hero video

Laurie A. V.

So I always thought the exile thing was just about her playing "Exile" in London with Bon Iver. "Bejeweled" mustic video came out 10/25, and she played "Exile" on 10/26 as a suprise in London.

Laurie A. V.

Maybe she changed her mind and was going to announce Rep in Feb, but with how well she's doing in her love life, she was in a good enough place to be able to close out the Joe chapter. Maybe she just plain changed her mind.

Jason

The FANS the sisters use at the beginning of Bejeweled...Taylor had her fan at the Grammys...maybe a hint at Tortured Poets?

Andrea

with respect to the lav haze music video, it's interesting that the only time we see them interacting together is when other people are around to see it... maybe she's saying they were together to the public but behind closed doors she was alone???

Carly

I am the Carly that made the comment about the red herring easter eggs. What I meant was that I think she purposely put the black nail on the 2 on the coffee mug to throw us off. Essentially, it was an easter egg for TTPD bc it was black and that album is a black and white album (even though technically it is white - it still has a black and white cover). She knew that we would think it meant Rep TV but she was leaving it there to let us know TTPD was coming instead - very sneaky. I think this is similar to her wearing black gloves at the Grammys. Then, when she took off the gloves, she had white nails under the gloves. So we thought the black was for Rep TV but it was a red herring for TTPD. Also, the coffee in the cup is a 'sepia' color which reflects the sepia tone in the album artwork and the profile pic that she changed on the morning of the Grammys.

Teheanna3

I think she's gonna hold off with the re-records till 2025. In 2021 we got Fearless and Red (two re-records). The next year (2022) we recieved Midnights. Fast forward to 2023, Taylor releases another two re-records, Speak now and 1989, then she announces a completely new album ´the tortured poets department´to be released in 2024. So if she keeps going as she has, it would make sense if she released Reputation and Debut in 2025! (This is just my theory)

Katie Regan

Idk if you mention this BUT THE 20s look in bejeweled??? Clara Bow AF

Katie Regan

Is the lavender smoke she lights up like... some sort of attempt to "sage" the room's energy? Like her trying to put a bandaid fix on however she's feeling and stay in the love state she was in

Katie Regan

Hear me out... just like cardigan to willow included the invisible string transition, the coffee on the piano is going to be a link into the Poets era. Like there could be some music video where she's bringing coffee to Jack or Joe or someone (tortured poets dpt office vibes)

Grady

i think the coffee cup is just a 1989 easter egg. in you are in love she says "coffee at midnight" and the coffee is literally at midnight

Meghan Carty

I saw someone connect the design on the elevator walls to the design of Arrowhead Stadium, where she performed the day SNTV dropped. Seems a little farfetched, but the stadium does have these spiraly ramps on corners that are very similar to that design when viewed from above, so it would definitely be a crazy coincidence.

Melanie Whybrow

Wasn't there 11 cats in the photo at the funeral in the anti hero music video?

Rose Ellen

The first half of Lavender Haze music video really gives me "now I just sit in the dark and wonder if it's time" energy.

Katherine McClintic

Karma: I think the saucer is the White Album. Like its actually read left to right and the white was announced in FEB Bejewled: I think bejeweled relates to Delicate so much. The elevator she is in in delicate, "in your nikes look at you" "in the shoes I gave you as a present" etc. Is it cool that I said all that

Farah Canicosa

About the KOI!! She was talking about her life being a fishbowl in one interview (she was walking) and she was wondering who would be willing to jump in the fishbowl with her smething like that. Maybe that’s the connection with this video? In the fishbowl it’s just her and the koi (no partner)

Alison

Maybe the weather forecast represents like the idea of fate vs free will, similar to Mastermind in the sense that in that song, it's a combination of believing that a predetermined fate exists for you in the universe or that you're in control of the outcome or can change the outcome. Maybe she's saying, I know what has been "forecasted", I can see it (the evidence?), but I'm going to decide that this relationship is "fated" and meant to be no matter what, (when she tears the screen open and it's the stars. ) Lavender haze is like - she wants to be in "Lover", most people think she is in Lover era, but really there are issues - doesn't want to face them.

Alison

LH is her up at night (at a house not a home all alone?) writing Midnights, unhappy in her current state and dwelling in the past. Also - The Great War - In my tomb of silence - is it related to the themes of silence/her voice in TTPD?

Katherine McClintic

I just saw this. but I agree typed it below. This saucer has been haunting me like a ghost! and it is at 11 something, it was announced in Feb and it's a WHITE and black album, the red herring is the black nail being relevant for Rep and Tortured Poets!

Allie Ladner

I just think the exile ends 02 is literally saying her exile ends in feb…. Like she was thinking about releasing it then already..? But idk the timeline. Like her actual exile of her voice/freedom etc. she announced TPD in Feb.. and she knew the Grammys were then and she had a chance of getting her 13th Grammy

Mariana P. Vallejo

I'm thinking that Laura Dern says that the biggest achivement a Lady can hope for is being proposed to. Later in the video, the prince (Jack) is forced to propose to Taylor but she ghosts him. I think that might be a reference a big strain in the relationship being marriage. Joe might have even proposed but she might have known it wasn't genuine. What she realized she really wanted was the castle which I believe could be her career.

Mariana P. Vallejo

I also think the cape she's using at the beginning of the video looks like the one she uses during willow, I believe she's leaving that behind as she goes up in the building

Miranda

I wonder if the 2 in the stopwatch and coffee have any relation to the 2 she held up at the Grammys when announcing TTDP?

BenQM

The few books we see in the anti hero video stood out to me - after looking around a bit (and with some help from the internet 😅) the two most prominent ones are "Holiday: the best travel magazine that ever was" and "Picasso portraits". I don't know exactly what to make of it, or if it is even related to TTPD, but I found it a little noteworthy that both deal with journalists, writers, and artists from the early to mid 20th century given the old Hollywood aesthetic of her grammy look. The description of the picasso book also highlights his "astonishing variety" of styles, which doesn't seem like an easter egg, but did make me think of Taylor's mastery of many different genres. :)

Mis

The coffee cup signifies four days from being released from exile = 2 + 8 + 4 (minutes to midnight) = 2/12. The stopwatch is showing 02, and then the hand on 12 for midnight = 2/12 - released from exile (breakup date?) She jumps on the elevator and 'goes out tonight' not remembering if she still has a man.

BenQM

But also Holiday could of course just be a reference to the last great american dynasty :)

Laila

It could be that. Like how it looks like she changed her mind about Anti-Hero being the lead single and not Lavender Haze, as the video of Lavender Haze has all these song title Easter eggs but it ended up not being released before the track list came out.

Laila

"You did a number on me, but honestly baby who's counting.."

ImagineDragonlords

The koi fish always remind me of the saying "life in a fishbowl". The isolated and retro setting, with the curtains closed suggests a denial of the "fishbowl" they live in, even nostalgia for a simpler time, before social media etc. But, when she opens curtains and defiantly breaks down walls, it seems like Taylor is embracing life in a fishbowl, like, just GET ON WITH IT and love openly, no matter who sees "talk your talk and go viral, I just need this love spiral". Which I guess we know now, is something that Joe was never entirely comfortable with and ultimately a likely reason it didn't work out.

Eliza

A few things i want to add: TS said once her fav lyric is "i had dreams they were clouds in my coffee" from youre so vain by carly simon and the ending of karma is showing that the whole MV was a dream in the clouds of her coffee cup. Further, I think the whole time she used REP easter eggs as a red herring. Rep being a red herrring wasn't only on grammys night, it was recurring in order to make us believe it was coming next but it was never going to come next. I think that the black nail and all of the nods to rep are all red herrings. Lastly, you guys fathomed something really cool about the clock never striking midnight during midnights era, then finally it strikes midnight at the end of the MV and she walks over to the piano (with maybe jack/aaron sitting there?) and starts writing TTPD. Aka the clock has struck midnight, the foggy lavender haze has lifted, and now I finally will let it all out in my new album!!

Meech

When I see the TTPD cover and the concept of where poetry is read my brain just goes to the sounds of False God with a saxophone. My gut says there is some jazzy elements to the sound. Can’t fully explain it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Alyssa Malecha

I think the weatherman scene is depicting the line "karma is the guy on the screen, coming straight home to me" but it is interesting to see how maybe lonely Taylor feels when she was home waiting for Joe to come home.

Alyssa Malecha

I think Tourtured Poets will come out in April and then Rep and Debut will also come out this year. I just think it would be weird for the other rerecordings to come out after the tour is over but who even knows anymore lol. But also maybe the rep nail at two does mean next February??

Sara _

I once saw someone on tiktok make a very interesting parallel between the aesthetic of the taylor swift cinematic universe and art/painting. From what I remember it was way more focused on surrealism - as it's definitely the most prominent artistic reference in the midnights era. But considering Picasso's portraits are made through deconstructing the subject, it is an interesting reference to how in anti-hero she deconstructs the different parts of herself and exaggerates them through caricature - i.e., the nihilist but perfectionist pop star that has a drinking problem; the monster "too big to hang out" version of herself that everyone runs away from. The Holiday book seems more intriguing, however, because I can't think of a straightforward connection to the song or the album. I'll have to look it up properly

sharon teles

The Lavender Haze scene where she moves her hand though the guys back and it shows a sparkly sky gives me "The Alchemy" vibes

Carlie Leistikow

You know she might announce Rep in Feb but not release it until Summer which then would not take light from Poets. Just my one thought. Awesome video!!

txmxcxnx

Maybe the exile ends at 2 in the scene because “1” is when the elevator opens. 3…2…elevator opens.

Hannah S

Beyond the SN guitar, the koi fish are interesting bc something that is know to happen with koi is that if you put them in too small a pond or tank, their growth is stunted. Unlike a lot of animals that would just grow to their full size regardless of their environment and maybe just be cramped, koi’s skeletal system simply stop growing when they don’t have room. Sadly, their internal organs still grow normally though so it leads to health problems and shortens their life spans. I’m not saying that I think Taylor thought about alllll of that for the video but it’s interesting that she knocks down the walls and the fish grow nice and big. Metaphorically, Joe kept her in a tank that was too small, stunting her and slowly killing her. She needed to get out to an environment where she could grow to her full potential.

Allyce

I think the black nail is just part of the “red herring” thing. When she changed her insta pic to b&w she knew we’d all assume rep (same as the nail) but actually it just meant her new b&w album. Having a white nail would’ve been too obvious

Natalie

I‘d love nothing more 😩

Amanda

I saw an article today about Taylor Swift’s ability to influence American politics. With an election coming up, the two remaining re-releases are interesting/curious! In Miss Americana we see Taylor talk about her political views and her excitement about influencing voters. I believe she probably has politically charged songs in her vault. Would love to hear your thoughts on this parallel. Trump is quoted in an article today on CNN claiming Travis is a liberal, and that Taylor would be disloyal to endorse Joe Biden. I wonder if she will be a feature on Beyoncé’s country album—but also release Taylor Swift with music that explores themes not “traditionally accepted in country music and played on country radio”. I think this gets hairy, but with her popularity now she can influence people and sway an election! There’s a lot happening online about country radio not playing Beyoncé. Will Taylor sweep in and make a statement? I think so.

Hyla Sorenson

I’m about 22:40 in and I had a thought. You guys were talking about her being the basement and going up to the penthouse while she reclaims her albums but if we think about the basement as the beginning of her relationship with Joe and the penthouse being the end of her relationship with Joe, the beginning was also when she was at her lowest in her career and the the end is also (so far) her being at the top of her career. It’s almost as if she had to trade one for the other.

Melanie Kluger

Thanks for this! Does anyone ever think we’ll find out about Nice Boy Ed?! WHAT WAS THAT?!

Jentallygirl

Girls! 🥰 Sorry I can’t show you EXACTLY, but I saw a post on TT or IG showing two scenes/images of Taylor looking like the *spitting image* of CLARA BOW! 🫶😜 The first is in the Bejeweled MV, in the “contest” scene, when she’s dressed as a flapper… there is a photo of Clara Bow looking exactly like that. And the second is in the Lavender Haze MV, in the “sofa” scene, when she’s wearing the nightgown and looking very saddened or blank in her eyes… there is another photo of Clara Bow looking literally *just* like that. When I saw the post comparing these photos I was instantly convinced that they were *definitely* the inspiration for those looks… WOW. 💕

Anni

I‘m still a bit sus at the fact that at the end of the bejeweled mv you can see the Neuschwanstein Castle and traditional Bavarian Music is playing in the background… she is stopping in Munich for the Eras Tour so maybe that does mean something??? Probably too far fetched haha

Kesha

I think the lavender haze changed over time. In the beginning it seems she set off the lavender haze by the bed. In the second scene the weeds start growing on their own out of nowhere. I think the weather was a forecast of bad times ahead and she diverted by moving it and looking at the coy fish. The coy fish meant to persevere. She has a party with friends. (Who’s not happy in front of company) then she starts up the lavender haze again trying to keep them both happy and maybe distracted. She thinks she’s persevering the bad weather but really once the haze clears what she knows is the inevitable is coming. The haze is the weather forecast I think by the way.

Kesha

Is the black nail for TPD it is a white and black album and the red herring could be we all thought it was Reputation

Suzanne

It’s an “11” not a 2! OMG!

Rick

guys you didn't get the reference to the 20s in bejeweled (clara bow) and karma is the guy on the screen in lavander haze

Rick

also the butterfly in the jeans she wore FRESH OUT THE SLAMMER

Juliana Martinez

do you mean the coffee cup at the end of karma?

Suzanne

On the pocket watch, it appears as if it’s a Roman numeral 2, but I bet it represents an 11 for TS11. In the Bejeweled video. 🤪

jules

i just fathomed something about the lavender haze mv and you’re losing me. “i’m the best thing at this party (you’re losing me)” the only time they’re “together” is when they’re around other people. it almost seems like an act around others to pretend like everything is normal, yet the whole time he is losing her. “remember lookin at this room, we loved it cause of the light. now i just sit in the dark and wonder if it’s time” isn’t this exactly what she’s doing in the video? “i glared at you with storms in my eyes. how can you say that you love someone you can’t tell is dying” her draped on the couch, looking at the weather report. you’re losing me has other references to the “house” that we assume she’s been trapped in and she finally escaped it at the end of the music video. this doesn’t have a connection to ttpd yet, we may get more out of it when we have lyrics and other music videos. i feel like the music video doesn’t reflect what the song lavender haze is about, but she wanted the video to reflect what was happening in their relationship, which we now know was falling apart. i’m sure there’s more to get into but thanks if you made it to the end of my long winded fathoming!

Eloise Marshall

I don’t know if others have noticed this but in the Karma music video the scene with the rams head signifies Aries and April 19th (ttpd release date) is the last day of Aries Also it comes after Taylor being in gold and the red roses being all on the floor

Elliot swift

I suddenly remembered a video I saw of Taylor attending an awards ceremony wearing a pink dress for the day she met post malone backstage and they both exchanged pleasantries and then Taylor said she was so jealous of the hook on the better now song it made me think about the style of the song they worked on together in ttpd could it have been that style

swiftie g

Is the weather man the love interest ? Therefore guy on the screen reference and she’s alone in the house whilst he’s out working on the screen ?

Beth Steel

I have really been contemplating whether or not tortured poets would link a lot of folklore/evermore songs to joe. Since news of the breakup I have been looking at some of the songs as maybe hinting to some issues with joe. I still believe that most of the songs reflect on scott borcheta, however I do think that some of the emotions she felt with the scott situation, she might have also felt with joe. Dont get me wrong, I dont think joe hurt her as much as scott, but I do think the pain might have been similar. She writes alot about the duality of scott giving her an opportunity at the start of her career and her being so grateful to him for that but then also hurting her so much by selling her masters and I think she felt the same way about joe, their relationship starting with him looking past all the shit during reputation, but then later the pain she felt during their relationship falling apart. I just feel like quite a few of her songs could be about both joe and scott, songs like bejeweled, exile, happiness etc.

Megan W.

going off the confusion of the coffee cup in the Karma music video, I think that was an a genuine easter egg linking to a February Reputation drop but something happened that made Taylor change her mind and move up TS11 instead. I suspect it could be that she is really coming for Joe in the new album, & she wants to dispel any idealization of the relationship. That way when we get Rep TV, we have a more clear picture as fans? Just some thoughts..

Jenny Gustafson

Not for sure if it's been mentioned but interesting in the Bejeweled video how they're constantly using fans/fanning themselves (even Jack) and then in Taylor's outfit for the grammy's she incorporated a fan!

Swiftie Mom 4 Ever

I honestly believe she is going to drop REP before the release of TTPD. Why? Well rep was the start of the relationship and Tortured Poets seems to be the end. Why would she put herself through the rerelease of rep after she’s ended the story of their time together with Tortured? Also, she said there will be no explanation just reputation. So it would make sense that it is a surprise drop. It would also make sense for it to be dropped at the end of February, sans the black nail being at the 2 in the coffee cup. 2 representing the month and the drop of 2 albums. If she drops rep before TTPD then it’s the beginning that’s revisited and then TTPD is the closer of the relationship era. What about the vault tracks for rep? Would those tie in what to expect for TTPD? Would make sense to do it this way. A beginning then an end.

Clara López-Marmolejo

haven't realized that enchanted is played in the background during the bejeweled music video INTRO

Maddy!

tbh ive always thought she was comparing the three sisters to the kardashians and the mom to kris lol idk if thats already a theory but i cant unsee it now

Melanie Sosinski

I think Rep TV will come out in September during the Eras tour break (being announced at her last show in August). I also think she’s channeling Clara Bow in the Bejeweled music video during her talent show performance. Thank you both for making this space to fathom. First time I have ever felt comfortable enough on a platform to comment.

Hailey&amp;Madison_h

i’m so late here and i’m sure someone already said this but the WHITE handle is in between the blue nail and the black nail… also the whole thing about how the midnights clocks are almost never at exactly 12 i think she is saying meet me at Midnight like that it’s not quite actually 12 but Midnights is the context that we needed for midnight like that TTPD is the actual meeting like thinking we r going to go over the file/ get new information at midnight aka TTPD….!?!? idk just a thought

Nicolas Bayeh

there is also eleven cats in the bejeweled music video !!!!!

Nicolas Bayeh

i do believe that the coffee cup in karma simply means 1989 < TS11 < reputation

Nicolas Bayeh

also, in the karma mv i think at the beginning when we see the statue with 1989, then we see "hell" and then dorothy, i think that she's just telling us the order of the rerecorings left: 1989, then rep (for the rep aesthetic) then debut (dorothy is a child)

ipekbaltacioglu

also before grammy's red carpet, she asks Tree that if her clock necklace is set at 12.00 o clock???!!! like midnights era ending??

Jennifer🫶🏻

In Lavender Haze she escapes out of the house (which looks like a basement) through the Midnight sky into freedom!!

Aleesha Milligan

the bejeweled video has some hints to the eras tour. enchanted plays at the beginning, that being the only speak now song she does until she gets the castle (releases speak now tv) and then plays long live. She receives a key, and the stage is shaped like a key (claiming land/ unlocking vaults) also the fact that she wears a bejeweled body suit and sparkly boots, which is the first outfit in the show.

jasmine 🇸🇪🌷

As soon as we got the ttpd album cover and the over all them being white i thought about the WHITE coffee cup in between the blue and the black nail. I’m still confused why it’s on the 2 lol Another thing i thought after she mashed up getaway car + august + the other side of the door hints at it releasing in august. If that’s the case that would be the exact amount of months from ttpd to rep that it was from midnights to speak now. I’m not sure if taylor would do that though because she’s in her unhinged era. Like my mind is spinning in so happy and confused at the same time!!

ton

I think the “I should not be left to my own devices whilst on the phone was about sharing things with fans…. They comes with prices… like watching you leaving…”

Jess ✌🏼

Did anyone notice the 10 o’clock in the lavender smoke ring?

Johanna Parisi

I have always taken the blue and black nails as a reference to Karma the album being between 1989 (blue) and Reputation (black). And the clock is between the blue nail and the black nail. So it is the time for Karma (in the form of a song / MV and not an album)

Adélaïde K

I have always found it bizarre the way she sings in Lavender Haze MV, I wasn't expecting so much melancholy. I even thought something was wrong with my computer sound cause It felt too "calm". Was not what I was expecting. And I agree with Bonny, at the end she seems fucking depressed !! The way she goes back under that cloud blanket, into the lavender haze but with this empty eyes... She wants to go back in there but she is freaking dying there. It defenitely gives the delulu sad vibe.

Brittany Fitzgerald

Art Deco style elevator. Art Deco is the main style of the 1920s, which is when Clara Bow started doing Talkies!!!!!

Breejmc

I feel like the black nail polish on the 2 is a hint at tortured poets. I know black is the rep color but if you think about the ‘red herring’ aka her misleading us to think it was rep, it makes sense to me that the 2 is her announcing TS11 in Feb at the Grammys. In her Grammys speech she specifically put up 2 fingers saying she’s been working on this for 2 years. I feel like she was trying to tell us something. Idk, so many ways this could all go 😂 also to the butterflies in the beginning of Karma, her butterfly jeans after the breakup?!? Omg. She is truly a mastermind. I don’t know how she keeps up with this stuff.

Jennifer

What if going to the piano as midnights comes on the coffee is the hint that more music is being written? Like, we've hit midnight, but I'm still writing

Morgane Henrot

She seems to be like drowning in the lavender water.

Sarah

Is it just me or does Dita Von Tesse look like Clara Bow in that scene?

Johanna M

Her outfits in Bejeweled MV: when she walks on the diamond path after exiting the elevator and throwing of the rep/willow like coat, her outfit becomes increasingly bejeweled with the era colors (she is reclaiming herself, her freedom, her albums). As she meets Dita her outfit turns white, (TTPD is the white album) where she learns to sparkle again for the stage...

Johanna M

In the Lover MV she swims in a human size fish bowl with her lover!

Johanna M

36:40 Emily "He did not pay her attention" on the Lavender Haze MV. Also the line from You're Loosing Me "Who only wanted you to see her" 😩

Ale Martinovic

Anyone thought about the rainy cloud on top of her head in Lavender Haze when she wakes up as an Easter egg for “Every mornin', I glared at you with storms in my eyes” from you are loosing me?

Janna Patty

CLARA BOW IN THE BATHROOM OF ANTI HERO

Maddy!

wait where?!

noah

i think we’re gonna get rep this fall

beckylj123

I feel like the middle of the Bejewled music video where they're spinning in the cocktail glasses feels kinda 1920s/1930s, and is giving me Clara Bow?

VenturesOfJanee

omg i just realized... the bejeweled music video is similar to the vibes of Bridgerton (classical music if enchanted at the beginning). The Brigerton theme ties directly into the tortured poets department!

VenturesOfJanee

the hoody she wears in the elevator reminds me of willow... a song about joe...

caroline

it's marjorie.

Christine Violet

I just saw a tik tok about the cup of coffee that is a clock in the karma mv… and they said maybe we have to go through THE CUP OF JOE (a slang term for coffee) in order to get to rep TV 🤯🤯🤯

Nathan

There’s a photo hanging on the wall in the anti hero video of a classical era looking woman in black and white. Could be Clara Bow?

Caroline

What I was thinking too!

Caroline

Couldn’t tell if it was Marjorie

Caroline

At the beginning of Karma, I always see the butterflies scene as “when the butterflies turned to dust that covered my whole room.” A nod to Clean (1989 Easter egg) but also that she’s clean of the relationship?

Miriam

WAIT okay sorry im super late to this video and sorry if someone else has said this already but WHAT IF the coffee with the nails is that blue is 1989, reputation is on the right but the middle is TTPD because in a way the foam with the coffee is black and white and the covers she’s been giving us aren’t necessarily the same color black and white so what if it just means we are getting reputation after TTPD

Sarah Horn

I think the coffee and piano seen is her showing she’s writing new music and that will be Joe’s karma. Tortured Poets is Joe’s karma. Also some of the stories Taylor nation posted had ring marks on them like they came from a coffee mug

Nika Gordham

I think there is one easter egg in the Antihero video. Everyone at Taylor's funeral except Taylor's kids is wearing black (duh) but they all have white hair.

Lucca Emily

At the end of the Bejeweled video when she stands on the balcony in the castle, there are koi fish in the stained glass windows!!!

Erin

At the beginning of Bejeweled they were talking about how important proposals are & in you’re losing me she says “I wouldn’t marry me either.” Then they say that the prince would never want anything to do with her again and how quickly he was bored with her. It would make sense if that whole conversation was about Joe. Ohhhhh then I wonder during the actual “competition,” is that supposed to be someone she was competing against for Joe’s attention. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Sydney

Black nail has to be for TTPD. Feb she announced at the Grammys. Track 2 is the name of the album.

Kate Aydlette

I was just about to comment this. This feels like a subtle hint hidden with the 1989 Easter egg.

Kate Aydlette

Also the outfit in the elevator before she enters the room with all the gems. Can we talk about how under the cloak she has a tan and bejeweled body suit underneath, like the costume she had on the 1989 tour (if I’m remembering the outfit correctly).

Chaya lindsay

The shirt chad swift is wearing I can so see Travis wearing 😂

Chaya lindsay

Kimber wearing the old fearless dress…. I sit on the floor wearing your clothes … like she really is in mourning

Selena

Looking at the nailpolish and the cup.. Blue (1989 Taylor’s Version), Cup (white/brown), Black (Rep Taylor’s Version) What if the blue on the left was for 1989 TV and that before we get Rep TV (the right hand) the next re recording we first get the cup.. (perhaps the cup of tea).. the TTPD?!

Emily

Don’t you think the mums necklaces in bejeweled looks so similar to what she was wearing when she announced TP

shan

watching this right now (just joined the patreon ૮₍ ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ₎ა) i’m thinking her burning down the lover’s house during 1989 performance was a reference to matty (1989 shirt he wore) and lover for joe. the ending of both those relationships being also the subject of ttpd makes this all makes sense in hindsight

Courtney Graham

Now rewatching and the 2nd finger nail I think means double album with tortured poets. The black was a red herring making us think Rep. but now we know it was on 2 double album and black for ttpd

Lotem Eldar

This music video was released on May 23. It was about the same time when she said on stage she had 'never been this happy’ while she was dating Matty... It is super unlikely that most of the TPPD songs were completed when the script for the video was planned, to the length of her knowing it is going to be a double, now that we know what is the main topic of the album... I actually think she planned to release repTV but the heartbreak got in her way.

Tara Ludwig

The chalkboard in Anti-hero... EVERYONE WILL BETRAY YOU ... including Joe...?

Tara Ludwig

Preston's tie in the funeral scene of Anti-Hero is B&W. Also, for a funeral, there is a surprising amount of white. Preston's sweater, many of the guests and B&W, too.

Tara Ludwig

Laura D has 11 strands of pearls in Bejeweled.

Tara Ludwig

Lavender haze - first shot of weatherman on TV has 11 cities forecast. One is FLORIDA!! (not that I think it counts as anything)

Tara Ludwig

Karma - first scene, goddess of Justice usually has both scales in 1 hand. Scales in 2 hands=double album? Dorothy's dress is B&W. 2 Taylors in the hourglass. Full eclipse in the "take all my friends to the summit" scene. It was fun watching these with you guys, thanks!.

Tara Ludwig

I firmly believe she will give us the last 2 re-records before the end of the ERAS Tour. The free publicity from making the announcements during the shows alone make it worth it. I also believe she will save Rep for last... Sorry Bonnie. I don't hear anyone clamoring for Debut, and she'd probably rather end on a roar, not a sigh. I was also watching your last surprise song reaction and how she struggled to get through the Rep song. If Taylor hasn't already finished the vocals for Rep, I imagine she's waiting until she's in a better place mentally to do so. As you know, the tour runs to the end of this year, so I anticipate getting Debut late July/Aug and Rep late Oct/Nov unless she adds more dates to the tour.

Dianne Janssen

so i just watched this, and im thinking the black nail at 2 oclock was always for anthology (dark part of ttpd) at 2am.

Lyrical89

Does she break out of jail, breaking out the house back into a world of speak now (purple, stardust, koi fish) - literally her wanting to speak now and not be silenced anymore?

Lyrical89

And does he only pay attention in lavender haze at the end as it’s in front of people - putting on a show for everyone but behind closed doors they are not doing well and she feels so isolated

srepaka

I just fathomed - 'I was a functioning alcoholic ’til nobody noticed my new aesthetic' and she's always drinking alcohol when she's with versions of her self in the Antihero video - shots on the table and the roof scene.

Ali ❤️‍🔥

Watching now and noticing the 11th floor glow when she says “a diamonds gotta shine” in bejeweled! Also the double album/black and while Easter egg on the 5th floor. Also allll the 2s!

Ananya

I thought karma was coming with 1989 as a double album because there’s karma written on a pillar behind the goddess.

Ananya

That’s so sad. Reminds me of lyrics in it’s time to go: that moment again, he’s insisting that friends look at each other like that.

Analice

So... We're clowning for rep tv in London right? Is it on the 2nd night that something on the museum is "in movement" so that would be the two ? Also the two fingers in that picture being the eighth picture. What if it wasn't August 2 and instead the second show in London now, and we're in August so it's again the eight!

Amber

I always took lavender haze as a visual obstruction keeping her from seeing the reality of the relationship. It’s interesting the way the MV also ties in the sense of scent. There’s incense burning when the scene opens but then it overtakes the room after she lights the match. She flees the bedroom to the living room for clean air until it gets overtaken with lavender and then she’s trying to crawl her way to free air again. So she’s trying to keep herself in this delusion of the relationship but she can’t even fully breathe in it. And they’re living as strangers in the home but public perception is that the relationship is fine and loving. Even that she’s performing to the public to keep the charade going for herself despite the increasing distance of intimacy by the end. She fled their bed and bedroom, left the house, pushed the walls down and is now sleeping alone in a different bed. But it also seems she’s escaping into her own mental fantasy world (I Hate It Here.) The very first track off the album talks about trying to stay in this relationship yet she’s destroyed the home so she can’t return to it by the end of the video.

kaitlyn

I know this comment is so late but I was thinking, when the clock strikes midnight on the coffee cup at the end of the mv, at the end of the midnight era, all hell breaks lose, her exile ends and gives her voice back to be free, and everyone will get their karma through her poetry.

Tiffmed

watching lavender haze back after TTPD is a trip .. like he was with her in dreams and she was fantasizing about someone she saw in TV

Brittany Fields

The living room scene of Lavender Haze reminds me of i hate it here! “I will go to lunar valleys in my mind”

Brittany Fields

The gold statue in Karma is the goddess Nemesis. The goddess of revenge.

Nicole

Watching this after TTPD... The lavender haze ending up in the sky, outside of the room is very much giving I Hate It Here (so I will go to lunar valleys in my mind/in my fantasies I rise above it and way up here I actually love it)

peachysxnrise

Yes! And also maybe down bad with all the galaxy/alien references

Breezy Bumbles

Did anyone comment about the music in the background at the beginning of the Bejeweled video sounds like Enchanted? I know we’re looking for TTPD easter eggs but that’s another one for Speak Now.

Nicole

I circled back to this because I forgot I had watched...but in Bejeweled with the Exile ends, I almost wonder if she forsaw her getting back together with Matty as the end of the exile she put herself in ("to outrun my desertion of you"), and the locket appearing out of nowhere was him coming back into her life not through her actively seeking him out.

Grace

Oooh love what you’ve said about the incense here. That would connect back to The Black Dog— “6 weeks of breathing clean air, I still miss the smoke”

Braelynn Bouchie

For the Anti Hero music video... wasn't there 11 cats in the portrait of Taylor at her funeral? That could have been a nod to the fact that she knew she was working on the next album.

sierra

yeah i feel like if there were any easter eggs, you needed ttpd first to understand them. so far in bejeweled, all i’ve gotten is “he tired of you quickly… swiftly” and that “she ghosted” prince jack. which screamed matty healy situation to me

Brenda1989

The night sky on the back in lavender haze definitely makes me think of how she referred to Joe as her soul mate and all the star aligned and circling each other orbit

Melanie van den Heuvel

The transition to the coffee Cup reminds me of that 73 questions vogue Interview where she Said that the Lyric „i had some dreams They where clouds in my coffee“ And maybe that is symbolic for her dreams and expectations in her relationship and her being in denial about it. And the carrying the Cup to the Piano is like carrying it to Joe and writing sad Songs with him and Later „how long can we be a sad Song….“ But i dont know about the clock and how that comes together with that 😄

Esther

Her running to the phone, and the line being cut I always took as her being cut off from the rest of the world because of joe.

Zoe ❤️‍🔥

Can we talk about the fact that the evil daughter in law in anti hero is named KIMber, out of EVERY single name. Kimber. And then the sons go on to say that kimber “killed her” because she didn’t fall she was pushed. (throw back to fell down the rabbit hole, long story short it was a bad time) then in thankyou aimee she says “who threatened to push me down the stairs at our school” and THEN she stomped across her grave. (was only at the funeral for the money)

Lison

the showgirl version of taylor has orange glittery shorts in the anti hero video!!!!

Lison

Lavender haze video is giving i hate it here!! She's growing the secret gardens and galaxies etc

Bethany Andrews

I think there's nods to Maroon in Lavender Haze (the incense and record player at the beginning)

Nicole

Is that a picture of Clara bow in the bathroom scene of anti hero?

Erinn Messer

I really think in hindsight that the guy at the end of Karma was matty healy because we know they wrote songs together on midnights and when she shared this music video, that was peak matty healy delusion time for her. She thought she was pointing to a future with him. “Karma is my [new] boyfriend”

Barb 🔆

Damn. That's some good eye spying

Barb 🔆

That is an incredible take. Good job, 👏

Barb 🔆

Zoe you got it! Good catch

Danielle Bletso

not sure why I decided to revisit, but I did and the crazy number of showgirl eggs is wild. when she talks about teasing something so far in advance, I don't know how she does it.