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Progress on 0.5.3.5

  • Add in the option to have a platonic relationship with Emily now 71
  • Wait with adding the platonic relationship until the rework update 283
  • 2023-03-24
  • —2023-03-26
  • 354 votes
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Content

Good morning,

I've just had to think about a decsision I have to make, which is why I'm making this post early today.It's about Emily's story progression. The fact that the relationship with her is pretty much mandatory (be it sexual only or romantic) is what made me think about it a lot in the past days. I know that there are other characters who also don't give you that choice, but right now I'm working on Emily (and if you think about Tia at this point, I can only say: "Someday in the future")You need to make Emily your sexpartner for the orphanage and you also need it for the MC's house to be renovated. Two storybranches on which others depend heavily (Pregnancy in general and Athia/all stuff related to the MC's house). Also this relationship is in conflict with Mira. Which makes it feel even more weird because you pretty much have to cheat on her for the story to continue. Which now brings me to the problem: I want to change that, but the question is wether to do it now or at some point in the future. Now might be a good time. I just had to dive into all of Emily's dialogues and events. I now know where to make changes so that it can be just a platonic relationship with her while also getting the mandatory part done. But the problem why I'm asking you this question is: This will take even more time. And I already wasted a lot of it on Emily's old content (more about that later) So I let you decide wether I do that now or wait with it until the next rework update. Since I have to decide on that in short this poll will only run until the coming Monday. Thank you for participating!Ok now about what I've done over the past week.I've already hinted that I've worked a lot on Emily's old content. Last Friday I told you that I've worked on her oldest animations and that I wanted to also update the kidnapping images too. Which I did by now, but it took way longer than until Friday night. By now I not only reworked her images but also added in a quest for the early relationship building (which is something I felt was a bit too complicated to figure out without a walkthrough) and also added in a new step into the story progression + reworked some of the dialogue in the quest + even more reworks on some images that had to be addressed to be identical to the new ones (I changed her bed, it would look strange if in one scene it looks this way and in another as it looked before).What really caused some unexpected problems was the way I had done Emily's events back when I made them. Of course I didn't know better by then, but there was so much redundant code that in order to make changes to it I was forced to clean it up first. I did this so that it would actually be possible to update her dialogue in future scenes. The way it was this would have been really frustrating to do, as some identical dialogues were present in 2-3 different events.So that's what I did and also ran a lot of tests afterwards to make sure it all works out. I finished that on Wednesday night.This version is now also pretty much playable...So I've thought about it and decided to release it as a test version today. There are probably problems still in that version that need to be addressed, so getting a bit of help from those of you who want to provide it is very welcome! While writing this the upload is already running, I will make the release post when it's done uploading.What isn't in this version now is the actual pregnancy content. I've worked on sprites and also a new animation for Emily yesterday, but it's far from being implemented. Images need to be edited + I have to make renders for the backgrounds. And the actual dialogue for them has to be added/Reactions from Mira & Frisha. I still think I can get this done until next Friday. However if I also add in the option to only have a platonic relationship with Emily, this could take longer. Which is why I'm letting you decide.For now I will continue to work on the pregnancy animations and images. On Monday I'll then either work on the alternative version of Emily's relationship or even more pregnancy content. I still want to get 0.5.3.5 done next week. But as it stands now this won't be possible before Friday. I hope you can forgive the delay, but the rework of Emily's images + the cleanup on her events was necessary to have a good foundation for future events.Ok, back to work!I wish you all a nice weekend!

Comments

Herugrim

From an update point of view, if you go the platonic relationship route with Emily. Would that mean that it ignores the entire update if you go the platonic route? Since then you clearly wouldn't be getting her pregnant and most likely also wouldn't marry her. That's the only thing that I'm wondering in regards to this. I agree that it is weird that her relationship is forced for progression of the game and other quests, so it makes sense to have an alternative path. It is difficult to make sense of the bigger picture till the game is finished at some future date of course. Like, what if there is a route where you only date Mira and never ever have any relationships with anyone else, for instance. But that's an entirely different matter altogether. Since I am not the biggest supporter of the pregnancy content to begin with, I'd be fine with this update taking longer to allow for the platonic relationship option. It also would mean that'd be a reason to replay the game and play that path. I can wait.

Chyos

The current trend of the poll is already very significant. I don't think that will change much in the coming days, so thank you for the feedback. I will focus on the currently available routes without adding the additional ones. That can then wait until the rework. And yes a platonic relationship would mean no sexual content for her and the MC. Only friendly interaction and a way to build her house and yours.

Prayer2009

I personally don't see anything wrong with the setup as is, but if your set on changing things I would go with doing it now since the next rework update seems to be a pretty big job maybe even one of your bigger updates from what you've hinted from changes to the script, Re balancing combat to adding more images all that will need testing , so I'm voting for adding it now .

Grey Metal Fox Games

Personally, I don't think adding a platonic relationship route with Emily is really worth it.

Herugrim

I think there would only be value in choices of relationship or no relationship if there were consequences to each choice. The issue is that we have no insight in this as it stands. It's what I brought up in my post, if there was a "reason" to have for instance a Mira-only playthrough because it opened up a different ending to the game. But since different endings, or any ending for that matter, is so far away. I can pretty much completely understand how a platonic relationship has no purpose. Currently it's just a get intimate with anyone and everyone you meet type of game/route because anything else doesn't reward you or lead to anything else. Similar to that, going a "saint" (no corruption for MC or anyone they are with) route, as I call it - also isn't rewarding (yet). A little bit of different dialogue, but mostly going the "saint" route locks you out of a lot of content. It would start to get interesting if there are specific scenes only available for being not corrupted. The only situation where this has an impact is Athia I suppose. Though it's more about whether you make her a slave or become her champion - and not so much about whether or not you are being uncorrupted as MC himself.

Lopnex

I think personally since it needs to be finished coded and written, you might as well delay the update and do what is best for you. If you say you need time to release the content you wanted then I don't see why we don't wait another couple of weeks for it. I mean after the times you made me wait and I was like "WTF, I NEED MORE." However, if we did let's say give Emily this relationship is she able to be pregnant by someone else? And can we get a cool little minigame of the seed hitting the egg even if it's a percentage-based concept? If you are the one to fertilize someone, and or when you see them doing it it'll pop up in red writing that she got impregnated by someone else where you can't really miss it even if you were skipping time. I just like visuals of it saying FERTILIZED or something.

Chyos

Yeah, I agree on that. I won't do a minigame, but visualization is something I want to improve also for Kate.

Lopnex

That’s the other thing, Kate was a headache trying to figure out if she was or not so a visual would be amazing or like wording. I lean more towards a small visual

Lopnex

And also is it possible to also show like who the father of the child is?

Chyos

If I remember correctly it is saved. I guess I can add something to it when the player inspects the children in Emily's house. But no promises, have to see if it works out first.

Lopnex

I see, would it be possible to have a book in your inventory with the girls and who the father is

Lopnex

As a form of quick action instead of walking all the way over to Emily’s house

Chyos

Mhm...That would be a lot more work. Something that might be reasonable in the future if the feature gets improved (children growing up and getting tasks like work on the fields or similar). For now it would be more work than benefit from my point of view. So no plans to add anything like that in the near future.

Lopnex

Understandable but I think the book would be cool if it included like bust size, butt etc

Lopnex

And then had the pregnancy and by whom

Lopnex

And like current route or lover

Kevin Daley

I don’t think it’s worth it I mean you the champion of lust in a porn game. Your kinda forced to go after girls even if it puts you in a bad position as that’s your curse

Michael Jensen

Well i think that way of thinking removes the suspense and makes the story less intriguing, to me also a "porn" game is a broad label, not anything that requires you to follow a specific recipe and one of the games that doesnt follow such guidelines, is this one, which is why it is interesting to me and fairly unique, i often forget in some parts that its a "porn" game, which is one of this game best qualities. Maybe it follows some of these guidelines, but it doesnt feel like it!.

Chyos

I have to admit that the reason I want to make this change is pretty much subjective and my own perspective on the topic. But even if it looks like this change would be a ton of work it really isn't. Some things would have to be changed of course: MC wouldn't be in bed with Emily first for her to suggest that he would help her with Giron, so that conversation would happen outside the bed. The part with building the house can pretty much be left as it is now. and then that's it. Mc helped Emily built the house and no more changes needed to be made. It's not that big of a thing as some might think, but yes it is some work. So for now I will put the idea aside. But this is something I want to add. Before you needed to have sex with Claire to learn lockpicking...this Is also something I didn't like which is why I changed it. This here is similar.

legendppk

I personally think pregnancy content is long overdue. So far only Kate has real pregnancy content. What I want, since it was the main appeal when I first picked up this game, is more pregnancy for more characters and for surprise creampies to have consequences.

RevGen

rework update seems pretty packed as is. at this point, I doubt it would be something can be finished in a month time. I'd be fine with it taking longer personally tho.

Chaos_Alfa

If we're talking about pregnancy content what would also be appreciated is some acknowledgement if the child is not from the player. I for example wanted Kate's children not be from the player character and therefore never came inside of her, but Kate still said it could be from the PC. Another scenario which would be fun would be if someone is cheating behind the PCs back they could acknowledge in thought that the child is not theirs, but say it is if the PC had sex with her and came inside after she got impregnated

Professor Morde

in my own opinion i think that the characters with most content should be added as having a relationship with the mc that way it will give you #Chyos a chance to expand on the characters with not enough story as of yet....... while this game does have some very good aspects to it and it is growing in options and gameplay i feel that looking at how much you put out each month we the players/patrons should be willing to assist with the bug testing that way you can focus on polls/new content without having to find every little issue in the game itself .... just my thoughts on the matter ..... Still Keep Up The Good Work .... i enjoy this game immensely