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Helen of Boy

That is a rough question you're dealing with, there, Jiro. And kinda means that, if/when this fic concludes, we gotta assume this just keeps happening if we want to believe in a happy ending. Otherwise Jiro'd just spend a fair few years worrying like crazy. Makes sense that Aoko isn't really from the future, though. I hope others can work that out, not just Jiro, and that they can talk about it some... without Aoko hearing that her life up until now might have been semi-fake. She's a couple years too young for that kind of existential crisis! Also prevents her from having any info about future summons, which'd be confusing. (Funniest possible thing would be for the next summon to be ANOTHER child from the future. Also potentially tragic?) Also, very cute turn of phrase with Yuuka "calculating" her having kids in the future.

Metri Boomin

I know we shouldn't take what Aoko says as gospel, but I really am hoping he doesn't summon anymore people. If he summons items and gets powers for himself and the cast from now on that would be ideal.

Zerak

I bet some of the smarter people will be able to put some of what is going on with her together given how status the future seemed. Her Sacred Gear is also really good for growing plants, specifically cultivation type ones that take a shit ton of time to grow, or get better with age. It really is the perfect training tool. One thing I always wondered about it, can it produce an environment rush in Qi for cultivation (if you had such a power) and if so is the power yours or will it vanish? Even if not yours, Cultivation is going against heaven so you can force it. It’s a very interesting SG. Looking forward to the tech presentation.

ytm

Jiro can just cut off his meat if he really wants it to stop. Any deaths his powers cause are his fault. Future Jiro probably castrated himself for the world to be safe Thank you for your sacrifice. 🫡

Phant0m5

Huh. So it's kind of like a seer that cannot see themselves. The "hypothetical child" was raised in a simulation of the world that, though accurate, only included things that are actually in the world at the time of the roll. But like the seer acting on their visions, that chain of causality breaks as soon as a sufficiently disruptive outside context event happens. Or in other words, as soon as Jiro summons something crazy again.

Goldenwing114

So with the hypothetical child scenario, it seems like the chaotic nature of the Wiki pulls can’t be predicted/ accounted for?

Phant0m5

Nah, the main cast might be getting pretty big but I trust Ebiris can juggle things so there's still room if they choose to. Especially if more of the new arrivals are pushed offscreen a bit, like Toshimi and Asteroth. If nothing else, Saeko and Yuuka probably have friends they would like to see again someday.

vodkasheep

I'm with ravel, timey wimey shit is fucking terrifying when you think about it. Imagine if aoko was in a legit time loop. She gets booted back in time, she is then born and from her parents perspective they have two daughters. From her perspective she has a little sister, except when she turns 11... poof! She's gone, because even if they were separate people from a person perspective, from the timeline there was just her. The little sister might as well have been thanos snapped.

Metri Boomin

I've no doubt Ebiris can write in more characters fluently. If Jiro does summon more women I'd like for them to be part of the main group. As someone who reads and puts themselves in the shoes of the MC it would rankle me that consequences of my own power, positive or not, are just out there in the world without my direct supervision. I like being in control though, and Jiro seems more like an 'alls well that ends well' kinda fella.

Bob Saget

My interpretation when Aoko showed up was that Jiro's power created her wholesale, and her former world only existed within her memories. It's 'hypothetical' after all. Which yes, makes Aoko the Clear Blue Fridge Horror Princess. And yeah, her longinus is a perfect fit for her. If that was rolled by chance against other longinus that's hilarious. Innovate Clear helps Aoko's narrative inclusion too. Since Aoko fighting antagonists or being successfully targeted is distasteful due to her age. Her longinus offers a 'perfect defense' that she can step into if things get hairy. And it makes it easy to include Aoko into the plot because Innovate Clear is so endlessly useful.

Phant0m5

No, no, it was laid out at the end that Jiro figured the trick out. He speculated that if he ever lost his power, he might get to live out the rest of his days peacefully, right up until "the only thing that's real" suddenly disappears. In other words, if he loses his power then he's in a simulation. No self-mutilation.

Megamiaouh

I can already picture the scene where Aoko starts to have an existential crisis about being 'real' after the discrepancies start to pile up and Jiro comforts her in such a good Dad way that it makes Sona falls for him even harder. It's kinda funny that Rias got such a good boyfriend pull that all her 'rivals' are being dragged in as well. Jiro's too good at his job.

Einar Strandberg

As I suspected, Aoko was created, not copied from the future. A very elegant solution for future knowledge problems.

Bob Saget

So for training, time saving, and powerups, Innovate Clear is a big deal. The two most obvious benefits that are already mentioned in this chapter are for Jiro and Taihou. Jiro because it lets him jumpstart his industry. And Taihou because it allows for easy renovations of her full form. Coming from future tech and possibly magitech. But there's opportunities for Saeko and Kaori too, even with the reasonable restriction of "if I make things that have feelings, it’s kind of bad for everyone". Saeko needs blood spilt in kill or be killed fights to bring her new blade to its full potential. Earthworms are just about the most biologically simple animals with blood. So going Dune Jr. with some giant, violent worms should satisfy all conditions, including Saeko's desire to tear through fodder. For Kaori, Innovate Clear can allow her to conduct magical rituals and workings that would otherwise be utterly impractical. A heptagram circle covering a square mile made from platinum and encrusted with gems, surrounding a deep pit full of 6666 goat livers? Just bribe Aoko with blueberry sherbet.

Megamiaouh

There's no reason to even go that far for Saeko. Just use bears. Brown bears, Grizzly bears and Polar bears all 100% would fight Saeko to the death especially the last ones.