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One Piece - 563 & 564 (Patreon)

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2025-12-15 01:25:50
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지원

hi~~

Loony

The reveal w hordy and the others as just monsters to kill for no reason really isnt a crazy thing oda tried to do idk where he was going with that lol

Aaron williams

The point is hordy and his crew are just using the past as an excuse to kill people Michelle is right it’s just for fun. As opposed to people from the past island who had a reason and resentment. But hordy’s crew are just wildcards. That’s worse there is no limit to what they will do. The ally with no one. It’s actually a bid deal considering this whole time they were sensationalizing their hate for him humans and it’s not even real. They were going to start a war between the two just for fun not for any of the reasons they said it was for. Gordy is an evolution of arling and his philosophy. Why is why otohime was right for being so desperate to stop the war between them because eventually it wouldn’t matter “why” anymore

King Tut

I get what you saying it does seem a little bit anticlimatic but I think the point he was trying to make was that queen otahime was right about what happens when people so hate towards people in front of children they end up growing up hating without having any real reason

Erik Matteus

I think the Blue hair guy was so taken back that Hordy was a true sociopath, and the drugs enabled him to exorcise a full take over simply because it gave him so much immediate power. But someone correct me on whether Hordy knew about the drug pills as a child because it seems like he really was influence by the Human vs Fishmen beef and was initially driven to get revenge for his people, I'm just not sure when he officially lost the plot.

akaryzen

bleach and boruto 😭

YanuE X

it is.. that's how radical ideas actually born.. it is actually not "no reason", he just grew up seeing the suffering of their race by the hands of humans.. he doesn't have personal hate towards humans and what does that mean in real world? racism.. a racist person have no personal grudge to another race they hate but since he/she grew up in an environment that may inplicate to hate that specific race, that person becomes racist.. hordy is racist.. ask any racist why they hate that race.. did someone hurt them from that particular race? some may have personal reason but some dont..

David Barron

I did think it was funny that the whole build up was to tell us Hordy is just just a real hater.

Bim Skuddi

There are a lot of people on the world who pretend to champion causes for their people when they’re actually racist against everyone else. Hordy’s character is actually way more relevant to real world issues than most people realize. Hordy being evil seems like a cop out at first but it’s very pertinent.

Ranzy Lizardo

Hordy is the worst type of enemy pure haterd no reason from personal experience just seeing the negative you can’t reason with it at all it’s scary to meat those type of people and especially the length to destroy his own people and island to try to change for the better is disgusting

Saint Bonnie🎭™ 🆁🅲🅰

Hordy got his temu “‘nothing happened” moment 🥀 shirahoshi brother was gassing it that shi was not tuff 😭

Loony

Thanks for this explanation it makes sense now but for years I found it cringe

lordjaggi

i mean are they gonna make up the episodes we missed? or just not acknowledge it.

TruCentrinoTech

In feeling racially superior and mandated by heaven, Hordy is the equivalent and an anology for a fishman celestial dragon. Like Ron said, robots being programmed, fishmen and celestrial dragons alike. P.S. Luffy's voice is hope goes harder the longer you watch!!

Rudy Salaiz

Alright ill let it slide that you called the sound of silence country because you did the sittin on the dock of bay very well.

Phyllis

The whole point about Hordy and the Fishmen is very relatable to current issues. Without naming specific countries, what’s happening today in some parts of the world shows how nations and their environments can fuel hatred toward other nations or even toward certain races due to their past history. With a good leader, people can learn, grow, and improve by learning from the past. With a terrible, racist leader, however, chaos is created, mistakes are repeated, and there is no real progress. The children in these countries are watching closely, learning from what these leaders and the people around them say and do, and being shaped by those influences.

Brandon Debrosse

They kinda did acknowledge it when they said that they couldn't record because Ron was sick so there would be no upload

Stew

It's like growing up in the ghetto and feeling like your only option in life is to sell drugs and gang bang. You can try to hate on the youth individually for growing up to do illegal things, but you have to consider their environment. If all the people you look up to feel oppressed and express that daily, how are they supposed to grow up feeling optimistic about life? The Prince finally understands what his mom meant by not letting the youth see the hatred inside you. By keeping that pent-up human hatred away from the youth, they can grow up to follow a different perspective and life path. Hordy and his gang grew up listening to human hate speech. Everything wrong with the world is because of humans; we're not happy because of humans, and we get killed because of humans. Now it's going to be the Princes' job to teach Fishmen to raise their standards instead of focusing on bringing humans down to their perceived level. It is weird that they make it seem like it's essential information for Luffy to know. It's more just a juxtaposition to Fisher Tiger, who was a literal slave, and still took Koala back home and told his crew not to show their hatred for humans and repeat the cycle. Meanwhile, Hordy is so twisted in the head that he's willing to destroy his homeland for an opportunity to kill humans freely.

Stew

True dat, it's like trying to reason with a psychopath. Reminds me of the Scorpion and the Toad story.

Kai

Today’s up to date ep of one piece had me floating 😮‍💨

aidan decristofaro

omg I cant wait to watch their reaction to it in 5 years. Real shit tho the ep was beautiful.

aidan decristofaro

i agree the reveal is very anticlimactic not Oda's best imo

Miguel Nobre

Ngl seeing a brother saying this is just sad,you of all people should know where Oda was going with this,we suffer from this,where people are racist just because the way they grew up,they would hate a race even if that race didn't nothing wrong to them

Miguel Nobre

Hordy is a shallow villain to represent the emptiness and self-perpetuating nature of inherited hatred,particularly racism,rather than complex,sympathetic character,making him a mirror of the social issues on fish man Island rather than a deep villain Hordy lack of personal trauma for humans despite preaching hatred,highlights how prejudice can fester without cause

Andre Goh

Well said. A shame they and many others who watch fishman island can't appreciate the nuances and real world messages. Most just want big plot twist like Ace's father, super cool complex villains and then just dismiss fishman island.

Dadundudun

A human telling a merman, " We're friends, right?", in these exact circumstances! Everyone on Fishman Island hearing it too! I got teary-eyed lol. Also, I love to read all the comments explaining why Hody not only fits perfectly into the story, but actually NEEDED to be written this way. If you give him any kind of justifiable and sympathetic reason for his crusade, you lose the subtext and underlying main theme that Oda is heavily conveying through this arc. It falls flat for some people because the true Villain of Fishman Island isn't some big bad, it isn't Hody, but rather the feelings festering in the hearts of it's inhabitants.

SpartanManJDOGG

The hordy thing would have been better if there wasn't some build up to "Who is hordy". It could have just been a regular reveal and it would have worked better.

😂😂

fun fact Ron "Nothing Happened" Today

koolblue mizz

Why don’t they just predict the halftime at the beginning of each episodes

Rice2Meetu

Thank you. Worded it better than I ever could.

RorotheShadow

I wouldn't say this was anticlimactic, Ron. In my opinion, it's actually very realistic. There are so many people who simply feel hatred and are racist or discriminatory without any substance, simply because that's how they were taught. Hordy and his people were taught from a young age by people like Arlong that humans are evil and that fish-men are superior to humans because of their abilities. And since they never learned anything else and never learned to question things, they simply spread this hatred. Without having any personal experience. That's also for example why many children of right-wing extremists become right-wing extremists themselves. Because that's how they're taught and have it drilled into them from a young age.

Fellerz

We been trying to tell them that lol

Damian Nowak

Thats also why we have so many left-wing extremist today

Damian Nowak

People not understanding Hordy in 2025 actually explaing current state of the world

Potetskall

Are they not gonna react to the chainsawman movie?

Promanex(Alex)

I really like Hordy’s backstory because it is super relatable. My dad is really similar to Hordy because he grew up in China and he heard so many stories about Japan and also his dad my grandpa got affected by Japanese attacking that he hated Japan in their guts one wrong step who knows my dad can become a terrorist. I remember growing up and my dad would always tell me that Japan is evil, Japanese is evil he even won’t let me to eat Japanese dish and anime. I had to watch anime secretly, yes including One Piece. So I am able to watch one piece now whenever I want is such a blessing. If I had stayed in China and never watch One Piece, who knows I might be the next Hordy, when I was really really young maybe around 8. I actually hated Japanese because of all the voices around me and what they did to my Grandpa, my grandpa when he was a baby because of the bombing from Japanese he lost his hearing and forever become deaf and a mute and been look down by his family and his peers and had a really depressing life because of it. Thats part of the reason why my dad was so revengeful against the Japanese. As a grew older, moving to Canada and learning about the world, learning about racism watching One Piece really pull me out of the rug and let go of my hatred and eventually reformed maybe around the age of 13 I would say. Sorry for the long rant, props to anyone that read this comment lol

Kai

Lmfao facts gonna take so long, im just waiting for dressrosa then nothing but up from there. Seeing Luffy like that was shocking

Phyllis

It's really sad to hear what you experienced. I believe people in China are also taught to not forget about what Japan did in China. Maybe even to hate(of course that I can't say). Why I say this is because I went for a trip in China and booked a local tour(a very local no tourist kind) there directly and guess what happened during the bus journey? They were playing a documentary(more like a propaganda video) on the Nanjing massacre on repeat throughout the whole tour. I was actually disgusted and did not enjoy the tour as much because of it even though I got to go and climb the Great Wall of China during the tour. I do not know if they still do this but I hope that children in the country aren't brainwashed and learn to think for themselves and open their hearts despite the history.

Promanex(Alex)

Thank you for your reply, I think it’s actually getting progressively worse and worse. The Chinese government are not even promoting Japanese anime’s anymore they only promote stuff from China to brainwash the children, I went back recently and most children just think China is the best dont leave your country or you will be a traitor and other countries are much worse than China. In reality, unless you are rich or you are just traveling. If you are living in China, you will most likely have a life quality of a third world country and they are brainwashed to think they have a good life and they are living in the best country. It’s sad, at least when I was young around 2012 when I was growing up, they have some animes they put on TV, thats how I got exposure to anime in the first place, but now not anymore only brainwashing stuff on Tv and China government is similar to the celestial dragon and the world government controlling everything

Chop Chop Chopper

Sound of Silence is from Simon & Garfunkel btw. that’s not country

Dandy Zoran

Its not characters themselves so much thats the threat its the idea and as it has been said: We have to end the cycle of hate. We are seeing it from the royal family's perspective moreso. That area was neglected.

Conan

I'm not the biggest fan of that Hordy reveal especially since there's that build-up, which to me, felt pretty flat. But still a fun arc to watch because we get to see the Straw Hats power-ups

EmeraldYonko

Yeah, basically Hordy is just 100% racist. And wanted to be a dictator over all the fishman

Seren Huerta

Its not that bad of an arc (It is the worse for sure lmao), but Hordy for me is hands down the worst villain weve seen and will ever see lmao All antagonists in East Blue are better.

Tacosareneat

Idk man. jango, fullbody, cabaji, and the fucking meowban Brothers are all pretty dumb.

Tacosareneat

I DMd them and they responsed by thanking me for the suggestion, so they definitely are aware of the idea. So It just sounds like it isn't something they really want to do

Fabian Gloor

I actually like it, since it puts a nice contrast to all the other villains.

Kai

I think he means in terms of The big bad villains of the story/arcs

Kai

They will, just wait it out

Seren Huerta

Yupp, If I talked about the underlings of all arcs then every arc would pretty much suck and not have that much to talk about lmao. But yeah I meant the main villains that are meant to fight luffy, not the other crew members.

Low

Hordy reveal just shows how hate/racism/misinformation can poison the mind of people especially the younger generation. I dont hate his reveal but the execution is just so-so for me considering fukaboshi reaction kinda builds up that there is something special about hordy or his identity... nah he is just a piece of shit hater..a very big one.. upcoming arc is a bit better... then the next ones are just awesome! Hope to catch you guys there.

Kazuma

Bro that fish got that chin of dicks 😂 🤣

kidCash3

This wasn’t the premonition Shirley had that’s still to come

DrGratz

Lol I knew you guys were gonna be a little annoyed with all that build up for the reveal about who Hordy is 😂

Anthony

Wait ron is from the bay? Thought he grew up in Sac?

Ryan Pope

lmao yall are so close to being done with this crap of an arc

mamimumemo

Even though people don't really like this arc, I appreciate it when I re-read them as an adult. the thing that Hordy is a hollow is just the same as many people in this world, and it is exactly why massacre happened and still ongoing in the world. I also got a lot of hate by Japanese as a foreigner, but when I really talk to them, they actually don't experience anything that they said, like foreigners being rude to them or wanna kill them or whatever, yes there are some douchebags but they don't really experience it themselves. And they always talk about history of how they are the savior. Instead, if we look historically, they are the one that did massacre and occupied many countries (well they still occupy Rukyu and Ainu people). Its not funny right, if we look at many of the countries with history of occupation and war, somehow the occupiers always hating others and saying the others are the one that wants to kill them. I wish you guys would understand it but I think its more relatable when youre in the position of danger as in certain race or nationality.

Jonas Teigen

I love One Piece, but this arc hurts to watch :( Even tho it has some good themes with racism, a good backstory and some lore. It's executed so badly with the pacing, writing and soooo much stuff that should be filler, but it's not. This might be crazy to say, but this might be the worst big anime arc I have ever seen.

PumpDaddyD

Ron: cant wait to see what the one piece is Me: Same bro

GG420

The sad Part is that FM Island most likely is one of the most important arcs lore wise but the pacing in the anime is so Bad, the manga wasnt that bad tho if you bingeread it

Dajkenoth

Its a bit late to comment on this because i just Patreoned, but the whole reveal was really more to say that Hordy and his group cannot be changed because their radicalism comes from nothing. Not any memory, not any past experience, just hearsay. And this is not limited to just Hordy, its a majority of the fishmen. Humans have not done anything to most fishmen, but they fear humans unconditionally, it shows a lot especially earlier in the arc where no one even offers to transfer blood to Sanji. Now why is this important? It gives Tiger Fisher, Otohime and Shirahoshi's action that much more meaning even if it seemed stupid at first, because if were to continue to spread terror of humans amongst fishmen, especially the children, there would be unlimited Hordys for generations. Thats why Hordy is not just a "monster", he is a monster of the "environment". The true villain was not Hordy and his gang, it was the environment that raised them.

Timmy Sim

they are basicly ppl who hates races from what they heard instead of experience which does fit with arlong, jimbie

Henzz

New member here wazzup 😎🍣. I subscribed from YouTube to skip ahead on these episodes 😹😹 cuz eff hordy

Henzz

I got the membership on the wrong account so had to get 2 accounts 💀💀💀 but this my main

Ragged

Its actually much worse when you are someone so filled with hatred without even knowing why you are hating, and is also much more dangerous than someone who does have a reason to fight. They simply do it because they know nothing else than hating humans and so regardless of reason they will continue what they are doing just because of that generational knowledge without ever digging deeper. They will also continue this mindset and propagate it to others until hate is all they know and hate is what they wield. Do not underestimate brainless, emotional driven ideology, it is easy to fall into because you don't need to think just feel.

Javeed Green

What makes bigxtheplug country cause he’s from Texas he raps what am I missing idk all his stuff but I don’t hear country