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Materialists (2025) | spoiler review (Patreon)

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2025-07-01 22:21:39
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2025-07-01 22:22:07
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We are living in a material world.

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Heck Porter

I found out about this movie because Japanese Breakfast did a song for it (“My Baby”) and I love JBrekkie. I liked the movie for what it is and genuinely wasn’t shocked when Chris Evans was the choice that won out in the end since “choose love over all else” is typically the line in love storylines. I did tilt my head when Dakota says she makes only 80k, though. I’m genuinely not sure how she manages to live or how she and Chris would be able to have a life much less children unless they leave the city for good. I don’t know if I would have married Pedro, but I think I might have stuck around a bit longer if I were Dakota. He wasn’t awful at all by any means.

Brody Sargent

I thought the marketing told me it was going to be an A24 deconstruction of the rom com. I love RC but am always interested in movies that want to have a conversation. My feelings on the movie are mixed and impacted by having a date that week that immediately cooled on me after asking my height. So the Pedro Pascal subplot about be willing to mutilate yourself to feel valued by others hit particularly hard lol. I liked a lot what the movie had to say but agree that it was far from perfect.

Lindsey Mercer

Money is such a weird thing here. $80K is just about the median household income for NYC, so a whole lot of people are living off of less than that. At the same time, I know one couple with no children living off a household income of $300K who are always complaining about not having enough money and think they are "working class." I think the massive income disparities here warp people's sense of how well off they are, what they think they're entitled to, and how the working class is actually living. I wish more movies and TV shows captured these realities.

Lena

Because I'm extremely not online I actually saw very little of this movie but the trailer did make it seem like it was a romcom. I didn't see it and I don't think I will because I saw this short clip of the interview with Johnson and Pedro Pascal and I was like "they're never going to match this energy on screen and I bet Pascal is not going to be the end game and I just can't support that, so I'm just going to stop here" https://youtube.com/shorts/ymuRwFA9m2Q?si=I8wpz4SgDDYnZO6y

Pippa Russell

I love this film, and I think part of why I love it is I am definitely someone who does math about dating people. Like not height stuff, but part of me definitely feels like I could never be with someone who makes my life worse (or makes me do more dishes than I already have to). And I think what’s tough to swallow is that that is a practicality that does cut you off from genuine feeling and love, but also acknowledges the reality of existing in a world with no social safety net (especially as a woman). I do think what a lot of people are missing is the reason they get back together is not because he changed but because she did. Having your material wants taken care of in the short term is appealing, especially when you actually do like and respect the person who can take care of them. But that’s not the same thing as love. And I think the film does a good job of showing what Chris Evans character is giving her that isn’t material, and why that’s a worthwhile trade off after all. I can’t blame people for living in the world we’re in, but I do think the movie is right that that’s not how love actually works. And a list of numbers won’t keep you safe or happy because they don’t tell you who someone actually is.

Pippa Russell

Anyway to the world we dream about, and the one we live in now.

Princess Weekes

I appreciate this perspective. I think for me as someone who doesn’t do the math(I’ve dated all across) and has dated creative people who did not try and help themselves and it leading to a lot of issues I just was so in the grounded reality of finances that I couldn’t see why Lucy’s very imo rational concerns made her bad. For me as someone who grew up with one parent who worked and one who didn’t and how now at this point in life it is really coming back to haunt my family financially I think I just wanted something that did at least understand how hard that is. Not in a shallow way but just in a bigger sense.

Anneta Wamono

I just saw the movie yesterday bc I saw you had a review up! Anyway, I left the movie a bit underwhelmed with the story, but I did love the cinematography. I haven't seen a romcom (it was indeed marketed to me as a romcom) that captured NY and it's characters in a slow, meditative way like this film did. So props to Celine for that. I think what also lost me is that Lucy saw herself as someone cold and calculating, who doesn't see her own value and likely started her line of work because she just so happened to be good at it, but the film seemed to be revealing that she did have a passion for connecting with people. That she really cares, in a non-calculating way, for those around her that might be her friends (e.g. Sophie, Harry). I thought the film would've leaned into those connections towards the end of the film and left Evans in a "maybe we'll work it out in the future" place.

Natalie Stravens

You captured one my main uneasiness with the film that I’ve been discussing with my friend: how the film failed to show that Lucy was materialistic. They really just showed she was pragmatic about wanting some sort of economic stability and said that was a character flaw. Like you said, it’s not just that John is “broke.” It’s that he’s exactly where he was 10 years ago. They almost got there with the first time she sleeps with Harry and was more preoccupied with checking out his apartment than being with him… but it’s also pretty easy to read the scene as just natural curiosity of a beautiful, big ass apartment on top of NYC? Especially with it being a relatively isolated incident. Add that I never bought they loved each other, and John was kinda a dick, Like how he minimized her in the bar. It came off more that she just liked the familiarity of John not she was in love with him. With all this, it just was hard to be satisfied with the ending because kinda came off that she just needed to open up to Harry and build that familiarity with him to see if love was possible there. I don’t think it’s broke boy propaganda because I’ve seen this trope done so much better before. Lol

Liv

Interesting to watch this after the recent discussion on twitter about celine’s interview about how “capitalism has colonized love”and how there was a big disconnect between her intended message and what the audience got out of it. I agree that it was basically spelled out for us that she chose chris evans because he could offer her something money could never give you - love - but i agree with you, the movie ignores the material reality of needing money in order to actually operate. Dakota’s character might’ve changed her perspective to be less materialist, but did chris change his to make him a tad more so that the relationship feels more equal? I think there was a throwaway line about auditioning for commercial gigs, but that was about it. So even though she chose love, it just felt unsatisfying because there was no meeting halfway - she did all the changing, even though her concerns were valid and were proven to be so in the movie

Kate

When I get to a place in my life that I want to date for the purpose of long term commitment/marriage, I will be taking finances into consideration. By that I don't mean someone's income, but I do mean their practices around money. Do they budget (something you can do no matter what your income is)? Do they have/are they working toward having savings (even if it's a really small amount)? How much debt are they in and what is the cause of that debt? Are they doing their best to responsibly manage their debt? Do they spend impulsively/emotionally on a very regular basis? Do they, like Chris Evans' character, think they're "too good" for certain jobs? Etc. In the same way that I don't think it is ableist to be looking for somebody who is working on/willing to work on themselves and their trauma and their mental illnesses, I don't think it's classist to look for somebody who is financially responsible. I'm not looking for somebody *without* mental illnesses and I'm not looking for somebody rich. I'm just looking for somebody who is responsible and willing to look inwards and work on themselves. I've seen what marrying the wrong person can do to a woman through my parents. Especially financially. And I don't want that to happen to me. My parents loved each other but that didn't stop my father from manipulating her or taking advantage of her. And it didn't stop my mother from agreeing to all his stupid financial decisions. So basically I obviously think love is important in a marriage, but I also think that marriage (or any long-term committed partnership, especially when you live together and double especially when you plan to/want to have kids together) is practical. And practical factors like money should be considered. In my opinion. For example, two people can love each other so much but if one wants to have kids and one doesn't then sorry but they shouldn't get married then because one of them is going to end up resentful. That's a practical factor, just like financial habits, that should definitely be taken into consideration when committing to somebody.