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I never wanted to make a video about this but … here we are. This is my weird version of a Kayla Says video.

With the publication of three viral Dramione fanfiction turned traditionally published fiction the controversial ship has gotten a lot of attention in a way that sits at multiple intersections of what I talk about on this channel.

At the forefront, I’m gonna make this clear… while this video is sponsored and I will have the monetization on I will be donating any ad revenue and my Sponsorship money after taxes, to the BFTA Collective. [https://www.btfacollective.org](https://www.btfacollective.org/)

For my own sake and for the sake clarity, this video is going to be heavily time-stamped because as much as people say they dislike videos with countless caveats the lack of good faith, lack of media literacy, and allergy to disagreement without malice is … exhausting.

This video is not here to convince you to feel any type of way about the particular ship at the focus of this discussion.

It is here to have a broader discussion about fandom, fandom politics, and the way in which BookTok, modern publication trends, and J.K. Rowling (ROH-ling) have all interwoven to create a situation that has led to fandom becoming even less of a safe space than it usually is.

Time Stamps:

02:10 JKR Transphobia Reminder

07:57 WTF is Dramione

10:00 Fanfiction FYI

18:50 Year of Dramione

36:55 RIP The 4th Wall

55:57 Dramione & Me (You can skip)

1:10:58 Conclusion

1:17:31 Bloopers

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danielle

Got the notification, now I’m stopping what I’m doing, pulling out my knitting needles and my ear phones bc I’m sat

Cara

literally sitting at the hospital with my bestie post his surgery and this popped up right when he fell asleep.

Elizabeth B

I feel odd because im listening to this while I write my Harry potter fanfiction which has been cathartic in the fact im verbalizing critiques I had since 2007 after I read that trash deathly hallows

Pippa Russell

The nyt article about taylor swift bothers me so bad. Genuinely malicious to believe someone is closeted and try to blow up their spot like that. I have to believe most people don’t genuinely think she’s gay, because the stalking, I can prove it behavior is so much worse if they’re true believers

e.lonnrot

Really glad that Princess has finally weighed in, as someone who understands the fandom and the ship, as someone who knows the deep lore. Amid all the online discourse about what we did or did not see coming in this fascist moment, I confess that I did not see the boy wizard books of all things becoming a vector for fascist power. As someone who is NOT a Potterhead (I dnf'ed the series at around the 50% mark), it really breaks my brain to contemplate the lasting power HP has had over our culture. Its influence is truly everywhere for those with the eyes to see! And now it's come to finally smash the tenuous barrier between fanfiction and published work. idk, bodes ill ... just bad omens across the board. And yes ... it does feel like there is an insidious plot afoot by the powers that be to once again elevate HP to the center of pop culture, so no one can escape.

nacchitopia

I absolutely adore this video and I love your perspective on it as a participant in fandom in general, but also this one specifically (HP and dramione). you say so many things that were floating around half-formed in my mind for ... well, since summer and the wholew big discussion on the dramione of it all. (and some more formed, I've also just written about why I'm against monetising fanfic. so glad I can add this to my source list soon.)

CassieWasRight

Like three minutes in and I'm already like "Athena? Believes in war for the purposes of justice? Athena whose champion is Odysseus? That Athena?"

nacchitopia

.... and bought the romcom you recced, dang that seems like something I need (and who's the amazing fanart for/from that's on your left behind you? so pretty!)

Jax Monty

When I saw what JKR was, I threw my books in the trash. I can’t separate the work from the author, it felt gross having them in my house. I totally agree with you on the feeling of powerlessness, throwing my books away and never spending a dime on her again was the only thing I felt I could do. I can’t understand folks who don’t care about it. Life IS politics! The current wave of fascism shows how true that is, we can’t afford to be apolitical anymore. The popularity of all this regressive shit fills me with despair. A cousin I’m very close to is still obsessed with this shit, and we agree on most issues. I guess nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

MK

You spoke about this well. I think what blows my mind the most and what felt like really strange was the use of the HP series to advertise these new novels. I find that so bizarre. Separate from Rowling herself, tying these now published fan works so heavily to the Dramione ship in the roll out and the HP series means that the authors and the novels will never be able to stand on their own. It makes the whole thing feel weird? I have some complicated feelings about transforming fics into published works. It feels like it adds capitalism to what's supposed to be a more free and creative space. But here, I feel like steps are not being taken to do the work of separating these novels from HP and Dramione just so they can make money off the connection. And then you add in JK's actions and it's just a mess.

Deanna

Athena really has the best PR team of all time lol

Ilana Galpert

mainstream culture can't subsume counterculture without fucking it up in some way

Pine Tree Pods

This entire topic is really fascinating as someone who works at a bookstore and picked up Alchemised for themself without knowing it was dramione to begin with- I didnt actually know until a friend at work told me 😅 There's so much nuance in this conversation and Princess has once again dealt with this with all the care and carefulness that it needs. Im a nonbinary POC so I ditched Harry Potter pretty quickly when JKR revealed herself to be Like That but its always interesting to see how people's feelings about the fandom and how the fandoms feeling about the works have changed. It was especially interesting to see how articles were describing Alchemised as if its a romantasy and not an incredibly dark story with very intense content warnings. The book itself is a very interesting look at a post magic war society but a lot of depth feels removed from the conversation- again, theres so much nuance in the situation and getting to watch this conversation being presented in this video with that nuance and critique was very impactful

Naomi

Still mourning here, too. Glad I'm not the only one. My biggest potterhead friend had a moment of inner conflict and then decided to ignore JKR's bigoted activism. There's no chance I'll do that. Not very righteously: it's in large part because I have several trans people in my chosen family. My bio relatives keep excitedly talking to me about HP things. It keeps coming up lately. When I talked about my stance to one, they said they agree with JKR's views. Ugh.

Eric C

Not quite on topic but I'm hearing that BookTok is getting into One Piece. I wonder if that's a topic you would talk about

Ilana Galpert

Tangentially related, but on the topic of pirated book distribution, I'm struggling with a moral quandry. For several years Amazon Kindle was a saving grace for me. I strongly prefer reading queer fiction, and because the platform features self published writers, there's a vast variety of just that. There are several authors I love whose books are exclusively on Amazon Kindle. However, since Project Nimbus (Google and Amazon agreed to make tech for the Israeli government that will further enable the genocide of Palestine) I've stopped buying from Amazon. I find the idea of buying from them personally sickening. An author I love recently came out with a new book... exclusively on Kindle. I pirated the book. I searched for a way to pay the author not through Kindle but couldn't find one (they're name is hiyodori btw, shout out to Clem and Wist.) I understand that buying from Kindle means way more to the author than it does to Amazon, but the idea of supporting the genocide is repugnant. Does anyone have thoughts on this? I don't know how to compensate the author, who very much deserves compensation.