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We Wanna Be Bad—And That Is Okay (Mostly) | NEW VIDEO (Patreon)

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2023-02-23 23:00:03
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A little horny and a little discourse-y, we will talk about some of the many conversations surrounding rooting for the bad guy—a lighter video after all that politics last installment. 

The title is still a WIP.  This is the ad-free and uncut version.

Edited by joey & Princess Weekes

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/25/style/your-fave-is-problematic-tumblr.html

https://medium.com/@Powells/i-was-not-a-nice-little-girl-c2df01e0ae1

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Stephi Anne-with-an-E

I was just thinking about this! I just started a replay of one of my favorite VNs where ALL of the love interests are basically entirely constructed out of red flags and I was like "why do I find these people so compelling???" And here you are, answering that question!

Actual jeff bezos

No but seriously...what did Bulma do to get Vegeta to be a total wife guy 🤔 loved this video, funny as fuck and mad relatable

Snobeespurewonder

*I love Vegeta (and his relationship with Bulma) I think it’s easier to explore dynamism in villains and even “rogues” (not my fav character but then too) like you say. I think many writers, English majors, and scholarly types completely who like to really “dive deep” love the grey areas and for a good time villains or morally ambiguous characters got to have that whereas “heroes” could often get flattened in furtherance of the power/morality fantasy they were designed for. When it comes to what is essentially yucking someone’s yum and morality policing, I can understand why some are hell bent on it. It’s like you said, you do the work and be critical and that’s fun but sadly that’s not for everyone. So instead what you have is a world where people have to deny and gaslight in order to preserve their feelings towards this fictional situation or character. And that’s where I think morality policing fiction has most of its footing. Because these things do touch us and stay with us, shaping our values and providing spaces for our desires, etc so especially in younger people it does correlate to their IRL behaviors of denying or gaslighting for villainy. BUT. In most cases, yeah the policing of peoples problematic favs and fiction kinks is not typically in good faith or to educate. It’s done within a culture of outrage. And it’s not helpful but just moral jousting.

Shannon of House Lee

Spike from Buffy was my 1st villain love, I used to feel guilty when I was younger but on each rewatch it slowly faded away. Just to be extra, I can throw in Pacey from Dawson's Creek, really just because Dawson thought he was the hero in his mind (movie).

Corry Frydlewicz

Social media ruins everything. I used to think "fandoms are the worst" in general, but as you mentioned it really is just the way the platforms prioritize controversy and negative emotional content that's truly ruining everything.

bub

Another great video. Was really reminded of the Contrapoints video on Envy in relation to why villains' acting guilt-free can be so gratifying.