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Mega64 Record Club Ep. 83 - John Coltrane - A Love Supreme(#66) (Patreon)

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2024-10-17 13:00:07
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2024-10-29 20:18:02
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If you are a jazz head I got the perfect album for you. Today Shawn listens to the entire album all the way though and will let you know in real time what he thinks. We also try to answer the question... Is this the greatest jazz album of all time?

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Mega64 Record Club Ep. 83 - John Coltrane - A Love Supreme(#66)

If you are a jazz head I got the perfect album for you. Today Shawn listens to the entire album all the way though and will let you know in real time what he thinks. We also try to answer the question... Is this the greatest jazz album of all time?

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Garrett Vacation 🔪💖🩸

It was cool having the entire album in the background. That being said, I do not like Jazz. It does not click with me on any level. Reminds me of sum'n Charlie Brown and his friends would rock out to. I never listened to Migos but for whatever reason Takeoff's death was deeply disturbing to me at the time, that's my only connection to them lol.

Mary and Steve

Fun format this week! After Giant Steps I asked my dad if he ever played any Coltrane in his old jazz band and he definitely played some tracks he composed, as well as a song inspired by his work with a pun on Coltrane and train (I can’t remember what it was called, though). I meant to ask him about this one last weekend but slipped my mind. Next time! Jazz is always really nostalgic since my dad (and brother, and grandfather) all play/played trombone but I never really seek it out so I don’t know the ins and outs and different sub-genres. I listened to A Love Supreme a LOT this last week because the half hour kept ending before I knew it. I threw the whole thing on my Record Club recap playlist because it was tricky to split it up! Bad and Boujee is where “rain drop, drop top” comes from, if I’m remembering my 2016 lore correctly lol

spacegf

Jazz is a language! Dissonance and consonance are intentional parts of the experience. It's important to remember that these guys were *masters* of their craft - the way everything is written and performed on A Love Supreme is meticulous and precise. Coltrane was a genius at songwriting, and here he's telling a story about his own personal journey to find spiritual enlightenment reflected against the background of a 1960s world in flux. The civil rights movement is at its peak, the Vietnam War is ramping up in intensity, the world feels like it's rapidly changing. Meanwhile, he's been touring and playing sessions and has at this point met the love of his life, Alice Coltrane, who has him exploring a deeper spiritual connection to himself and the world. Some of the songs on this record are reflections on the past - dissonant notes can convey pain or confusion, profound discontent, struggles in his life - other songs are declarations of intent: to grow, to change, to better himself. He's taking you on a journey and you're meant to feel what he's feeling. The pain is part of it. It's a contained sound that brings you through the "saturday night" with all the troubles and moments of intrigue and parts to his "story" that ultimately resolve themselves like a new dawn "sunday morning." It's like poetry - I think a lot of people feel like they are missing some kind of esoteric jazz knowledge that prevents them from "getting it," but honestly Shawn I think you've got it. You're listening with intention, you're aware of the cultural context, and you're letting it take you on a journey. It's hard to say why some people look at certain jazz records as "better" than others - I think mostly it's just whatever sounds and ideas resonate with people at those times. I think A Love Supreme was kind of a big moment for jazz people because it pushed a lot of conventions for the genre and did stuff no one had ever really heard before at the time - overdubbed vocal moments, a spiritual influence that can be heard in the musical modes and styles he plays in, and the fact that it was written with this profound intention of conveying his own personal story. And you can hear that stuff on the record. Oh and for a lot of the solos he wasn't writing out all the notes. A lot of it is left for improvisation in the moment. And that bass part you skipped was just really quiet and low - creating drama lol Anyway another great episode, thank you Shawn! I really like this format, I think you should do it more often. And also I think you should really go to a jazz club, you would definitely like it.

LumpyNehar

I definitely recommend some of Grant Green’s and Wes Montgomery’s live albums. They each are so fantastic! Also here’s to next years season, gunna be a long winter but gotta keep the faith!

DoflamingoSnailPhone

We could hear the song when it was the few minutes of silence. The bass was doing a solo. You probably couldn't hear it through your laptop's speakers understandably. Incredible album! And I wouldn't worry too much if notes are right in jazz music. Alot of time it's much more about expression and atmosphere, as well at times breaking rules of conventional music, even standard ideas set within jazz at times. What may sound like "mistakes" aren't really majority of the time with jazz music. And that's what's cool about it. Pushing boundaries in what music can be. Anyways, keep up the great work dude! Can't wait to hear what you think of Bad and Boujee lol

Charlesleray

I know Anime Month for movie club is basically over but hearing this for the first time reminded me a lot of a recent anime movie about an aspiring jazz musician called Blue Giant I honestly think you'd really enjoy this movie

Rafa B

Sean getting Roberta Flack and Migos Is a great combo especially because metro boomin samples some Roberta flack here and there. Definitely need Bryan back!!

Jordan Fast

Should have turned his speakers up.

Burke

Shawn's intuition was in the right place to have the music play throughout. I enjoyed this album so much the first time that I didn't realize when it looped. It is so frenetic and expressive - a language its own. Also, reading out Migos and Bad and Boujee as if the words were written in a different language got me good.

Max Modeen

Jazz is definitely background music for me if I’m putting on a record. But live jazz is super engaging. I’m lucky enough to have done sound (I’m an audio engineer) for some pretty amazing and legendary jazz musicians and while it’s not a genre I’m primarily interested in mixing it gave me a whole new appreciation for it. They mix themselves.

Thomas Hasse

This was a great idea! I'm not into jazz, but this was a fun reason to listen to the whole album when I normally would have skipped this one. Bad and Boujee was a huge song. Looking forward to what you think.

Jonny Woolley

I really enjoy you playing the album while you talk about it! Loved when you were playing snippets in the Jack White episode too. I think that could be a cool thing to keep doing as you move forward

Pearstrike

Persuance. I love jazz and love John Coltrane. Shawn, you already are into jazz, don’t overthink it, just vibe and get lost in it which you already have. But yeah this record is great. Giant Steps is still my favorite but this is great too. First 3 tracks are my favorite. 4/5 for me. Also those screechy notes are purposeful

no

Have you heard Kamasi Washington? The Epic is alot of fun. it's not background music, it does demand your attention.

LPB

Audio file for the drivers here great thinking yes no mp4 for me today haha (because mp3 is for me)