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The one and only "criticism" I ever received that kept me awake at night (for like - 15 minutes at most, but still) was directed at this drawing of Jaheira here. Their input didn't bother me because it upset or anger me (it wasn't even particularly disrespectful or ill-intentioned in the way it was worded at all! You could tell that this person truly believed in what their were saying.) but because that person's issue laid on a perceived tasteless "exaggeration" of the breast-sag on that drawing - which revealed to me that they had a very basic misunderstanding of how female anatomy works.

Assuming that this individual was an adult, (which, to be fair, could be wrong of me to assume) that bothered me. I am no stranger to enhancing qualities of a character that I find sexy for the cheer sake of it (I mean, just look at the butts I draw) but the problem starts where we begin to forget what real human bodies look like and what human bodies do.

So, to that guy: no hard feelings, but please don't ever bring that energy with a girlfriend, wife, or friend who dares to just lounge around with their nipples a little too far from their shoulders. Cheers 🥂

Anyways, this is my little tongue-in-cheek addressing/tutorial on the topic featuring everyone's favorite granola aunt. I still gotta finish it, but you get the idea!

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Zuko

I love jaheira sm

C BRAVO

Yeah idk what he's talkin about like your titties are literally so accurate it's actually refreshing.

Rez

Hell yes.

nerdytyrantphantom

i love it when your art goes on these side quests with things like this or euro drow etc. it's always a delight seeing what you share with us. love this!

DreamGorgon

I'm trying to improve my anatomy drawing, particularly when it comes to varieties of figures/faces, and this is genuinely helpful. Thanks!

Sydney Robertson

All boobs are different. I kinda like that jaheira has droopier boobs. It doesn't make her any less hot.

Ztudiolaire

The realism you bring to your art (even in the exaggerated pieces) is one of the biggest draws to your style. The absolute cherry on the cake, regardless of the kind of cake

mmemo

That art of Jaheira is one of my favs (just because it's amazing in general) but also because of how realistic and authentic to the human body it is!!

sabrina

I really appreciate the saggy naturals since I have a 45” bust and don’t have “ideal” breasts. Unfortunately a lot of people really don’t know what they mean when they say they like big naturals.

Belle

The fact that you draw the gilf with actual gilf anatomy is really refreshing. As a big titty lady myself I get really sick of seeing people draw all boobs like they’re solid

sabrina

Also yes I am referencing the Withers big naturals meme. 👀

Lady Drace

Some people have no taste. Granola aunt is literally so hot.

Kirsty Pipe (Lunarspoon)

This is excellent 😊 as a larger breasted woman I love how you show how they would sit naturally and depending on age etc, I hate seeing woman of all ages drawn with perfectly perky breasts...like honey unless they're prescription big boob's have beef with gravity and even smaller breasted woman have their own fight with gravity.

Crowwolf

I'm sorry, what? Lol I'm 52, granted much younger than our lady here, but I fucking wish my boobs were that perky. Damn. Tbf I also wish I was that thin, but we're talking boobs.

Rez

They're just teardrop. And boobs just vary, so these are super real/normal looking. Isn't that the point here? See what I'm saying?

kgr320

I find that this is a pretty common mentality; it's not just an unrealistic expectation with men, but also with women and seems to become a common body image issue. I blame the ridiculous amount of padding and shaping that goes into modern bras, and how accessible modelling has become through social media. Boobs are usually saggy, and not evenly sized or shaped, and they go in weird directions depending on your position or motion.

Sydney Robertson

I was agreeing. Sorry if it came off like I wasn't

Rez

Yeah or like stuck in suspended bra shape lol

Selene Ancunin

I wonder if it was the same criticism I saw on reddit featuring this exact image of Jaheria you were talking about. It was annoying because the way you draw her breasts is normal for women of any age, many women with fuller chests have lower set breasts due literally to gravity. Some men are so porn-brained they don't recognize or even appreciate non-surgically altered women's bodies. Nothing wrong with enhancements but when we can recognize the state of natural bodies we are in trouble.

Rez

All good all good. Live laugh love boobs

E

that is such a normal place for breasts to be just in general, but it's also an inevitable part of aging to get saggier than you used to be, and it's a delight to see it depicted realistically on an older character in sexy illustrations

Stephanie Ramirez-Hudnall

I’m a fraction her age and my nips are looking at my feet so honestly they’re looking perky af to me.

LicenseToThrall

*Withers voice* Thou hast now a bosom instructional.

utopiaslzt

I love how realistic you draw her anatomy while maintaining your style. Like from how the muscles pull to how her nips are gonna show in her shirt. Its really amazing

MEANBOSS

I think the context of the character makes the boobs "seem saggy" - you know that she's older, so those words just pop into your mind as go to descriptors (plus I do try to hint at visibly stretched skin) but yes! That shape of breast can be seen on any age.

utopiaslzt

AH and the little pudge over her pants!!! Its so perfect!!!!!!!! Im gonna shake you till you burst into confetti!!!!

MEANBOSS

It's actually wild how people truly don't know what "huge" breasts look like. Like At All.

MEANBOSS

I know the crazy part is that I am still clearly drawing her looking like a bombshell and apparently that's not enough LOL

IbonNaAko

The first time I saw one of your pieces with Jaheira my first thought was "wow that's beautifully accurate" and how happy I was to see bodies of different ages still being portrayed in a genuine and intriguing way.

MEANBOSS

Probably! It was just some screen-prints of the comments themselves that someone sent me but I'm pretty sure they were from reddit, or some other socmed that does the upvote/downvote thing at least. And yup, I'm ALL for drawing people looking sexy - even when it's not so realistic! But if that's what you base your standards for real people on then oh boy. You got a big storm coming.

MEANBOSS

Don't get me started on nipple placement. A few centimeters will get you 50 different shades of titty.

Alex

I’d like to point out her nips very much point forward, in what world is that saggy??? There’s so many kinds of boobs depending on so many variables, some are fuller at the bottom with not much to talk about at the top 🤷‍♀️ Also look at that pit hair I’m in love with an old lady

Lyrak

I feel more and more that I agree with one of the Finnish artists I follow in that it would really benefit everyone if more places had something akin to sauna culture so maybe we would be less weird about/more familiar with normal aging bodies. I love the fact that you draw Jaheira actually looking older instead of "we slapped gray hair and a couple smile lines on the same young perky body" that a lot of media does (which I imagine skews some people's perception of normal whether they realize it or not). It makes her feel more real and fits in with the style of the rest of your artwork beautifully.

Lyrak

I fear Hollywood beauty standards probably also don't help with this.

Jane'e Taylor

The only unbelievable part of Jaheira's boobs to me is how perky her nipples are lol. My nips have never once faced forward in my life, they've always poked straight downward. (Please be aware I am joking and this is in no way an actual criticism, I'm just jealous of Jaheira's nips) But also I was once told I drew boobs "unrealistic" because "nipples don't do that" on a drawing where I used my own as reference, and man that was for one a confidence blow to me, but also clearly a man that hadn't seen real boobs before, so I'm no stranger to the boob criticism

Morallygreychaoticneutral

Hey, those nips are looking out for you by scanning the ground for danger. They deserve respect! And PTO.

EssayOfThoughts

There's also just that some people have naturally low-set or high-set tits! Low set tend to look smaller, high set tend to look bigger, even before we get to sag vs support! But you always add this edge of realism to your art - veins, wrinkles, the way scars move and pull, and the way bodies can sag. It's honestly refreshing to see and is genuinely part of why I subbed you on patreon (the other part was the delectable smut, ofc). But genuinely: artists who get the actual natural physicality of a body, incl the bits not traditionally seen as attractive is something i really appreciate. A lot of media has a very... youth-venerating and narrow idea of beauty and its so good how you provide variety in that. How you give some characters a rounder body and thicker belly because they'd have that, or angularity, or signs of age. I genuinely deeply appreciate it.

Lady Red

Extra weird about that art given her hunched pose. I'm 31 and I'm pretty sure I could hit that pose and my sag would be similarly positioned. Sooooo

Darrah

Same girl I’m 32 and my boobs have never been that perky even as a teen lmao.

MEANBOSS

I totally agree. We've come a long way to normalize nudity and sexuality, but we're still almost exclusively exposed to it in the context of celebrity/influencer culture aka people with access to resources to improve their appearances as much as they like : |

Lisa-and-Shadow

As a 40+ year old lady with big naturals of my own, I absolutely ADORE your realistic (but still artistically stylized) anatomy. You NEVER fail to blow me away with your understanding of how flesh and fat and skin and muscle work together and are affected by gravity in various poses. Not to be totally crude, but the things you do with a ballsack?? Magnificent! And your Jaheira has been a complete delight. The softness of her skin, the wrinkles, the effects of a long lifetime in the wilds? Glorious. This criticism is right up there with the people who complain about video game women having too much texture and not enough makeup. The porn has simply rotted them.

MEANBOSS

Don't worry, even if you were being critical we would simply have to agree to disagree, because no one can pry 60's style missile breasts from my grubby hands 😂 but yes, nips can point at whichever place they want and it can have zero to do with sag/size/age!

Crowwolf

SAME! LOL expectations versus reality - real bodies rarely look like the do in the movies folks lol

MaityB

Even weight can make breasts sag, im a busty girl and without a bra I got some sag bc there's no way my 20lb girls can stand on their own lmao

Vic

im a trans guy w big naturals and my nipples point towards the center of the earth. i hope that person finds this breast tutorial (or Tit Tut) educational enough to change their opinion. i love and will defend druid gilf's saggy boobs until the end of time.

AngryLILCyclops

You understand female titties better than most females. e.g Me. Titties I draw looking like Michelangelos.

LittleRadGoblin

That's literally just no bra titties lmao

Litsen

yes👏👏

PepperJack

Me trying to find my comment on the old post and not seeing it "mm I hope that wasn't me 🫪" (which idk how it could be bc I have Jaheira's same boobs at the ripe old age of 23... Early sag team pull up) anyways wishing you plenty rest and milf dreams 🫶

Vee

Also transmasc, but yeeted them teets nearly a decade ago. Now and then I feel bad about myself because my tootles droop a bit at the sides as I’ve aged / gained and lost weight. Hung up on having a firm flat chest, when that’s not realistic for my body! Imo, all boobs are good boobs so we should embrace that (and the boobs. Definitely hold the boobs 💕)

Andy O'Connor

I ain't even old, or a woman, and my tits already sag almost to my natural waist lmao. You draw Jaheira very realistically, moreso than her game design even! Kudos for the anatomy lesson~

Andy O'Connor

I'm gonna do a WBN cosplay before my top surgery XD

AP

Echoing a lot of what others said THANK YOU for this, Im a boob haver and this kinda stuff means a lot. real anatomy is underrepresented in fanart and youre right that ppl do have distorted views about real bodies. So its very special seeing you stick to it for jaehira and to talk about this. Also this is a reason your Jaehira specifically is so hot 🥵🥵🥵my god

AuntieGhoul

I think her breasts are perfect. Some people forget that not all breasts are perky. Depending on the size of a woman’s breast or her age, they will sag. Plus, people have to remember that she is not the same age as she was in the original Baldur’s Gate.

beebo0585

genuinely the way you draw these people with sagginess and skin folds and wrinkles makes them far more attractive than pretending everyone keeps all their skin elasticity from when they were teenagers. not that they need to be attractive at all, these are how bodies just look, but the authenticity in your anatomy makes your art incredibly appealing

Julia Cooper

This makes me so happy to see women's bodies represented accurately. You are an inspiration. Thank you :)