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Cyberpunk:Edgerunners Episode 9 (Patreon)

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2025-07-24 17:00:10
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Armando

One more ep to go! Enjoy chooms!

Aly

Little tidbit! The song that started playing while David was installing the CyberSK is called "History" and some of the lyrics go: This is the century To win your immortality How many strong are we? Bring down the enemy We will make history We will make you history This is your destiny This is the sign And now it's time to shine Lots of repeating and some other parts in the lyrics as well that i left out but especially those lines i found very fitting for this specific moment in the anime and Davids own view on himself. Just build different i guess. Can't wait to see the finale episode~ waiting a week is brutal now.

Salt

Yeah, in the game if you're rich enough, you can pretty much live forever. Saburo Arasaka (head of Arasaka in the game) is 158 years old during Cyberpunk 2077, and the main reason he’s still around is because of a machine called Soulkiller he had his mind backed up as an "engram" (basically a digital copy of yourself) and uploaded into a new body. Instead of dying, he just keeps swapping bodies while keeping the same mind, basically making himself immortal. Araska sometimes uses this to edit people too after making them engrams and/or control them. But if someone can destroy your engram before you're uploaded to another body you're officially dead. but its not perfect aside from being extremely expensive its not used regularly cause there is also insane side effects to being an engram, loss of self or mental instability etc.. but certain cybernetics overrall can also slow down aging Also for the why use humans instead of robots question: Like you said, they do use robots, but not fully since rogue AIs are a big threat in this universe. Years ago, a hacker caused a huge attack that led to a bunch of rogue AIs breaking loose and basically crashing most of the old Net. After that, they built something called the Blackwall to keep the rogue AIs locked away, and now AI autonomy is super restricted. Lucy was trained to dive past the Blackwall to recover old data from that dangerous part of the Net. So yeah, instead of risking another AI disaster, corps prefer using cyber-enhanced humans they can control more easily which is kind of funny to think about that humans at some point become more loyal than machine

Tanmay

This show is so peak

Wes And Steph

Wow those are beautiful!! Thank you for sharing!

Rostislav

And really, there will be a second season, so maybe things aren't as bad as you thought? Who knows 🤔

Yorutia

Cyberpsychosis is a really interesting topic in the game. In the 2077 world, while the *correlation* of cyberpsychosis and cyberware is clear as day, the *causastion* is still very poorly known. In the game, there is a side quest line where you track down all the cyberpsychos and try to understand what triggeted them. Those quests heavily implied that just by having a better social security and mental healthcare, probably many incidences of cyberpsychosis could have been prevented. Unfortunately those are also the rarest resources in Night City. Imagine a world where David and Lucy went to therapy, communicated with each other, and walked down a completely different path… The game always suggested that there IS a way out, as long as you are willing to choose a simpler life.

Ausfish

You mentioned that it is strange that they don’t have AI or remote system operating the cyber skeleton. Basically, for stuff as advanced as stuff like that, you would need an intelligent being, such as an intelligent AI or a person. In this world, there was an event where Sentient AIs went rogue and are placed beyond the Blackwall (an AI meant to protect the internet). AI and the blackwall are viewed similarly to black magic in other setting or summon demons where it is taboo and there are even corporations such as Netwatch that specialize in protecting the Net and trying to stop people from causing breaches in the blackwall. For something as advanced as the Cyberskeleton, they would likely need an AI of that scale if they wanted to do it without a person and there would be a real risk of it being turned back on them. Now, just because it is taboo doesn’t mean people don’t mess around with it. In the game, they explore corporations or gangs trying to use the power of AIs to gain the upper hand but it is usually seen as someone messing with forces they are incapable of handling .

Astor Lefflinker

In the game, the best way to fight an enemy with a sandevistan is to disable his cyberware by hacking. You can also equip a sandevistan yourself and fight speed with speed. I love it that you brought up being able to compete in the job market without cyberware. The answer is that in this universe, you don't. Except for specific jobs maybe where a fully organic body is preferred. In the lore, some working ladies and guys are fully organic because some clients prefer that. It kinda reminds me of how most cycling athletes on the top are known to use performance enhancing drugs, because in reality, if you don't do it, you can't compete in the top level because everyone there is using it.

Astor Lefflinker

Very good question about the mechs and why the corps don't just rely on autonomous robots or remotely operate them The TLDR answer is: Mechs like that exoskeleton are very advanced. Much more advanced than the drones and turrets that we've seen so far in the episodes. So piloting them takes more. A lot more. To give you an idea about what it takes to operate those mechs. The Militech Basilisk which you noticed in this episode can only be piloted by two people because the sensory overload would be too much for a single person. This is actually in the game. Panam lovers iykiyk. As for remote controlling the mechs. Doing that on advanced ones will be more in line to netrunning, and we already know how much toll netrunning can take on the body. Netrunners' bodies become very hot while while on the dive and that's why they have to be submerged in tub of ice or have to lay down on netrunner chairs with coolants. Not only that, netrunning also consumes a lot of power. In the lore, netrunners tend to cause district-wide blackouts. I think that's why the corps are experimenting on techs such as the exoskeleton that David chipped in. They're looking for other ways. In 2069-2070, the Unification War happened. It was fought between the New United States and the Free States of North America, and was was dubbed as the Metal Wars due to the use of cutting edge technology including mechs. Some of those mechs are Chimeras which was inspired by the Spider Tank in Ghost in the Shell. Those Chimeras are piloted by AI, so that touches on your question about why don't they just use autonomous robots. They do. But I think the top companies like Arasaka and Militech want a mech that can be piloted by a lone human because AI can go rogue -- a taxi company in the game got taken over by AI. The humans who were managing it thought that incorporating AI would cut cost and make the whole thing efficient, but it eventually took over the company lol

RCG

I understand that they don't want to use AI because of past events in history, which makes sense, and that some technology is so advanced it requires either a strong AI or a human to control it. But I can't wrap my head around why they can't find a way for a human to control something like that big suit remotely, without the need to physically merge with it. I'm sure some people actually want and prefer it that way - it's basically a premium upgrade for your body if you don't overdo it. Still, there has to be a way for people who don't want that, or for situations like this where the technology is so advanced that the normal human body and mind just can't handle it anymore. Even David, who seems to have an extremely high tolerance, is basically going psycho without constantly injecting the drugs that are conveniently built into the suit already, lol. Also, yes - to be fair, he was already showing symptoms before that, but he had also been using the Sandevistan a lot, which is apparently already pretty messed up for any normal human.

A Guy

In regards to cyber psychosis, I believe in the table top which serves as the original material, it was more like a humanity meter essentially a measure of your psyche and how you process morality. It’s entirely possible to do a complete body conversion without going psycho but it has to be a very slow progression. It’s a combination of your psychology and body chemistry so it varies from person to person. There are people within the setting that are complete freaks of nature in regards that kind of resistance and some are practically immune compared to David.

A Guy

Also in regards to how a non mechanically enhanced human can compete in the setting the best bet would be by bio engineering which can be provided by companies like biotechnica but stuff like that is supremely expensive so the average person in the setting isn’t going for that. In terms of the average day to day not having enhancements can lock you out of a lot of career opportunities. But it doesn’t necessarily keep you from being an edge runner or solo. The legendary figure of the setting Morgan Black hand doesn’t have much of the way of cybernetics besides an arm. But through pure wit and controled tactical planning he was able to strike one of the biggest blows in the setting against arasaka. No matter how chromed up you are, nothing can save you if you can’t think your way out of a shoebox.

Chels

😂 I think the implication is either that the suppressants are on a suit automatic injector thing prior to getting the cyberskeleton and we're just not seeing the separation, or they put the suppressants in it while he was downloading and didn't show it lol but ya, I just realized from your comment they do move from his back to this machine magically. In regards to why they didn't make this remotely operated, we learn essentially why in the next ep, but I think on a broader scale than what they reveal is that it's another aspect of the ever-going human endeavor to beat the human condition and become as indestructible and as immortal as machines, but they need to find people who can withstand complete cyborging without going psycho in order to figure it out maybe 🤔 That's the only reason I can think why it matters to them to make this exoskeleton for why they did and how they did. My other theory is that maybe it's because mechanicals are too easy to break/interrupt/hack than if having a complex human inside it. Even if controlled by a human, a remote controlled machine is gonna have to have so many variables like satellite waves being able to access the machine (think of when you try to use a wireless remote and something blocks it so it won't work, or you get too far away, kinda thing) or if the remote can be hacked or the machine itself, like they demonstrated with the drones (probably why we saw that scene with such focus as well) these are my theories as someone who doesn't know much about the world tho 😅 I haven't played the game or seen much of the TTRPG but for one playthrough from Tabletop Time. It might just be as nonsensical as "because I want to be badass to the max!" From my understanding of this crazy world lol

Kindyh Bordat

Kiwi story is horrifying. That my explain why she choose to betray.

banlungx001

since you guys talk about the suppressant that david use , i suggest you rewatch the scene in the last episode when the doc give those suppressant to david again.

Derpin

Mainly why they don't just don't replace David with a robot is because you would need a sophisticated ai instead. This world had a history of rogue ais and something people don't want to repeat.

kinetic98

Did Wes&Steph react to the opening/ending?

TheSlothSmile

to be fair being less able to hack something is a big holdback for remote control even if you it was possible the delay would be so much more than if you are the one controlling it I'd think,

Arian Abdolahy

Digimon comment for Wes: David basically became Skullgreymon without having a Tai being there for him.