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Horimiya Episode 3 (Patreon)

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2025-09-04 15:51:04
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Calt Being

My take on introverts and extroverts is this: Introverts are self-aware and tend to develop better emotional intelligence, but they often struggle to express themselves. Extroverts, on the other hand, are great at communicating and expressing themselves, but they’re not always as good at understanding others’ emotions. An ambivert (a hybrid) seems to combine the best of both. Ambiverts have emotional intelligence while also being good at expressing their thoughts. As an introvert, I feel like I can notice things in others that they themselves can’t (almost like a third-person perspective). But I’m terrible at communicating my intentions or thoughts. It’s not that I have social anxiety, but for some reason, when I’m in a group setting, my brain kind of shuts down, and I end up saying things I don’t even mean. Even back in school, it wasn’t that I didn’t want to talk to people. It was more about me overthinking—“What if I say something and they don’t like it?” It's like lot of overthinking and causing a self paralysis.

Mich Sm

i have been waiting for this one the whole week...TYSM

NL

Yes, the "I love you" exchange while holding hands is often described as a translation nuance or mistranslation in English. The scene uses an ambiguity in the Japanese language that is difficult to convey directly in English. The Japanese word suki: Hori says "suki da," which can mean "I like you" or "I love you". The meaning depends on context, making the statement ambiguous and open to interpretation. While holding Miyamura's hand, Hori first says "suki da," which could be a direct confession. Embarrassed, she quickly rephrases to clarify that she "likes his hands" specifically. Miyamura is shocked because he heard the implied confession. He cautiously reciprocates by saying "ore mo suki da" ("I also like it"), referring to her hand to avoid committing to a full confession. For many English-speaking viewers, it can be seen as a plot hole or be confusing when the subtitles often have to choose one meaning over the other, translating it as "I love you" or "I like your hands," rather than capturing the dual-meaning wordplay of the original Japanese.

Whammadoodoo

Sometimes the most meaningful and touching stories involve everyday things - feeling lonely as a kid, or being scared of being picked last, or making up with a friend after a fight. We're not fighting chimera ants or giant robots anytime soon. But being lonely? That's something everyone has to deal with.

BCloud

This reminds me of middle school, with so many cringy things happening, lmao.

Seán

I think Myia didnt hear Hori say it first i just thought he misheard her saying she loved his hands so when they had the fight with toru miya had said it but she hadn't said it back

ElijahLew

That "I love you" is kind of a mistranslation. Its really more like "I really love your hands Hori, I love it."

Gurocandii

That convo at the end is so funny, I also struggle with saying I love you because I say it to EVERYONE I'm even marginally close with😭 I'll be friendly acquaintances with someone I just met and casually be like omg I love you and it sucks because I really mean it like I love everyone, it was hard because my ex and I were friends first so I was always saying I loved her and then we started dating and I was like oh no it might be weird to say it now how on earth do I convey my affection without just saying I love her all the time, I gave up after like a month of holding back LOL💀 funnily enough the only time I really struggle saying I love you (in person) is to my best friend because they're basically my sibling and we've been best friends for 16 years or something? And any time I say I love you not over text it's usually a very emotional or serious moment and its soooo hard and I'll cry 9/10 times 😭

Mad Man Moon

I was gonna say this too, thanks for the great breakdown. I wouldn't have explained it as well.

Roger Powell

@1:41 The motivation behind the piercings: One clue we are given and it is left up to us to draw our own conclusions. Pay attention to Miyamura's use of them as the story progresses. Even from EP 1 to EP 3 there has been a change.

Lilanea

On introverts and extroverts, I do think some things are normal for each group but I think there is a lot of variation from person to person. I've always been an introvert. It was never that I wasn't interested or couldn't express myself well, its more that it was very hard for me to push myself to reach out or take that step. It's almost like a barrier that you have to cross to reach everyone else. Also, those memes about running low on a social battery are soooo true. Social interactions are exhausting to me. I can love my family and friends but I need some down time to recharge from alot of interaction whereas others in my family thrive on them. That doesn't mean that I'm not interested in what everyone is talking about and often I have a lot of things I do want to talk about with everyone else but again...exhausting and being able to take that social interaction steps.

Yorutia

The subtitle totally could have chosen "I like you" and still accurately translates both meanings. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think in the English language, "I like you" can also be used when confessing attraction romantically. "I love you" is just much more intense and committed. In that sense, (modern) Japanese is actually exactly the same: you have "suki" for "I like you" and "aishiteru" for "I love you". This actually works very well as one-to-one translations. I am actually surprised that the subtitle chose to translate "suki" to "I love you" in this case. The real trickiness here wasn't the love / like part, but more so the fact the objects can be omitted in Japanese (you / your hands).

mariacake

Japanese is a very context heavy language so when Hori said “i love you..” then said the subject of her love is his hand/s and reiterating “i love your hands!”. When Miyamura said I love you too, the subject is also her hands but of course it’s a double meaning like externally they are saying they love each other’s hands but internally it’s the direct translation. And I think Toru worried about something like that would happen between those two- that Hori might express her attraction and Miyamura would chicken out of it bec of his personality, so Toru was trying to talk to him about it Toru just cares about his friends so much!!! 😭

Lucjusz Kusiński

Nice, I dont have to write long comment now, thanks :D

Chels

I see a lot of people explain the context of the "confessions" but not going in depth on the literal meanings, so I'll explain that part. 😄 so specially because Japanese is context heavy like others explain, Hori says "Suki de" which is "I like (you/it)" at first instead of "Miyamura, suki" which would be "I like (you) Miyamura" or "Miyamura no te suki" "I like (your) Miyamura's hand" she just leaves it hanging. So after she panics then specifies "te!" His hands, he also leaves it vague and half confesses "ore mo, suki" or "I also like.. (you/it)" which can be taken to both mean that he's saying "I like your hands too" or "I like you too" and he leaves it intentionally vague when he says it again because he doesn't think Hori will reciprocate, so they both confess, but also both only left the other to think they meant their hands. Also, the word "suki" is misrepresented as "love" but it literally translates to "like" and "daisuki" is "big like/like you a lot" Japanese NEVER say "I love you" which is "Aishiteru" unless it's a major confession like a "kokuhaku" or a live confession ritual, where they will officially set up a proposal to date, but sometimes not even then, and this will even translate into their English 😂 they (at least my family and friend) NEVER will directly say if they love you, whether familial or platonic and from my friend's relationship with my other friend, he never said he loved her romantically either. So unless they are taught that that's something we say in English to mean all these things, they feel uncomfortable or sometimes don't even seem to think of the word, but rather speak with actions. (Ie. Bring you food.. all day. Especially when you have a bad day lol. I never ate so much as when i was in Japan. And I dunno why, but it really touched my heart my obaa-san would give us vitamins. Nobody ever cared about my health before enough to bring me vitamins 😭) so in this show, all these little complacencies and acts of service Hori and Miya keep doing for each other, that heavily resembles a Japanese relationship or familial relationship. That isn't something you'd do for casual friends one-on-one like that from my understanding. It's so wholesome. I think that's why they fell so easily into it without realizing. They basically were acting married or dating because circumstances put them into those roles, now they are just realizing they have a very intimate relationship. Oh and as far as I know, Japanese 3rd base is a kiss 😂 first is hand holding, then hugs, then kiss. At least, in anime (though my friend even admitted that physical touch isn't normal for their culture and he's just very forward, and I see that in my aunt. She does what I call "Shoko hugs" where she will only hug with her arms, and so lightly, you barely even register she's hugging you at all, while her body is 3 ft away 🤣 and all but 2 Japanese folk hug me in similar fashion, so I take it it's something born of not being comfortable with physical intimacy unless you're like.. either a weirdly affectionate person like my friend, or if you are very attracted to someone) hope this brings more context to the nuances we see in this budding relationship. Yall totally called it when you said they are doing their relationship backwards

Myles Charlesworth

They said sukii not aishiteru it’s closer to like or like a early romantic infatuation you like like them more than it is a overt declaration of like romantic love and it was Matt under this layered conversation about their hands so they didn’t like actually say it they like fake said it because they both kind of chickened out at the end