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Hunter X Hunter 121 & 122 (Patreon)

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2025-10-16 17:00:07
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Runhua Tang

I believe you guys can watch the opening now. There hasn't been anything to spoil for a long time.

RCG

The thing is, even if the human side of the King comes out as dominant, it just means instead of killing all humans, he’ll kill almost all of them and leave a few he arbitrarily deems worthy alive. So Netero knows there is no point in trying to talk it out.

Dylan Hearts

Youpi's scene with Knuckle always gets me, every rewatch I feel some unexplainable emotions from him sparing their lives just because Youpi evolved to the degree where he can respect his enemies. Of course it was annoying to see Knuckle throw away all hard work from Morel, Shoot, Meleoron, Knov just to save his mentor (which is emotionally justified, it's a person that made you who you're currently and seeing him being destroyed is overwhelming and in a way kills some part of your soul too), but that actually lead to Youpi appreciating enemies even more and changed him to a human side more. That's a great narrative in Chimera Ants arc: their initial ant nature being diluted by human nature which lead to unexpected growth and paradoxical weakness (because all these high, complex feelings such as empathy and respect just not suitable for fighting in a war or in existential survival). We could say that the ants plans were in a way derailed because of their new and quickly evolved knowledge. Like, old Youpi would have crushed our beloved characters in a heartbeat and proceed to the King without any thoughts. It's wild how in a short time out of three Royal Guards Pouf is the only one who represents Old Guard mentality. P.S. Steph mentioned a billionaire with massive AI influence was so on point with our dreadful reality, even if ultimately I don't think that this analogy fits Meruem at all, for various reasons.

RCG

There’s a spoiler for Gon in the opening. It’s subtle, but I don’t see why they’d risk it when they could just watch it after finishing the arc. It would be a shame to get spoiled on that just for watching the OP early.

Dylan Hearts

It just never practical to depend on one person's mentality however good it is. That's why most of countries have government and social institutions (parliament, congress, supreme court, etc.) which in ideal should work as balance to the president's/prime minister's power. It doesn't work all the time (see: current state of US), but it makes the sense. What Meruem is proposing would never work in any environment. There's a difference between holding the power and actually governing. And the King isn't evolved enough to grasp this nuance, imo.

Morayo

Fun fact about the king! He has the same voice actor as Tsukkishima from Haikyuu

CONDORIANO

Netero does want to fight a strong opponent, but that is not the only reason he is rushing the king to fight. Think about it, of all humanity, Netero is the only one that has a slim chance of defeating the king, so if he sits to talk and negotiate with the king, he'd be basically speaking on behalf of the entirety of humankind, but does he really have to right to speak on behalf of everyone? He is just a Hunter that was contracted to kill the king, but because he feels his heart starting to be swayed by the king's words, it is better to try and finish this as soon as possible with a fight, before he is "tempted".

Derpin

I think the problem Netero has is the King is just too dangerous to be left alive and he feels he must kill him for the sake of humanity. Netero doesn't want to talk things out not because he doesn't believe the King wouldn't change his mind or keep his word but similar to Knuckle he doesn't want to feel empathy towards his enemy.

Herbie

If the king met more people like Komugi, I think you could permanently convince him to run things less violently. He needs to be humbled.

RCG

Komugi is the outlier though, not the norm. It’s also a pretty tough decision to risk all of humanity on the chance of finding a less violent solution and even then, that solution would probably still be pretty violent.

Fabien

I think the king just meant equality of chances, as he said you need to be worthy. He said "to protect the weak who deserves to live". So you need to have value, otherwise you'll be best used as food.

nox

I think there's a misunderstanding of what the king means by "Those who deserve to live and those who deserve to die." In the next scene he explains, those who deserve to die, in his opinion are the ones who create inequality, and live lavish lives while exploiting the weak and poor (like the dictator of this land.) He also explains that he intends to use his power to "protect the weak," (and you're shown him holding injured Kumogi in his arms) implying that despite her talent, he's thinking of Kumogi as someone who is weak in this world, and needs to be protected. So, his idea of who deserves to live and die is infact, not meritocratic. And regarding the kings growth, he has only showed signs of learning more and more humanity as he progresses. When he was born, he was like a hungry baby who cares about nothing but satisfying their hunger, but since then, he's only shown signs of growth. The biggest one being in this episode where instead of attacking Netero, he wants to sit and talk, and learn more, and understand humans better. And he does this despite Netero launching multiple attacks at him and being responsible for Kumogi's current state. His rapid change isn't a sign that he is volatile, it is a sign of intelligence, and his openness to new ideas, and his willingness to be wrong. He's not changing his mind on a whim. He's changing his mind based on his experiences with humans, and what he learns from them. And just based off his trajectory, I think there is a good chance you can convince him to not only leave all humans alone, but also help humanity. Also, even if you still don't fully agree with him on his views of "those who deserve to live and die" he's shown tremendous signs of growth, and there is a chance you could find middleground with enough conversation which he is proposing btw. However, if you've decided that anyone who's that strong just shouldn't exist, then he's doomed from birth and has no chance of redemption. But what happens when a human gets that strong? Do we kill them too? Because there is a chance they might change their mind and become evil?

Tom Harris

I could say this on any episode, but... I love the way you watch shows! The way you pause within the show and discuss your immediate thoughts, the way you have longer discussions before/after shows. You put so much attention into your watching and engage with the shows so much, and your intelligence shines through too, you're honestly the peak of reaction channels

RCG

It’s 100% meritocratic if you ask me. A meritocratic society rewards people for their skills and hard work, not their background. Komugi is the prime example of that. Just because you aren’t a strong fighter doesn’t mean you can’t be skilled or talented in other ways. At the same time, you can be seen as conventionally weak in a world filled with powerful individuals, like in HxH, even though you are exceptional at something else. The problem isn’t that he’s too strong. The problem is that he’s too strong and wants to be the king of the world. He believes the reason he was born, and his sole purpose in life, is to be king of the world and rule over everyone. He even said himself that he would have to use power and terror to achieve his goal of equality - equality for the people he deems worthy of being left alive.

Astor Lefflinker

We've had a glimpse of how Meruem would view kids. In the episode where the eagle attacked Komugi. He was talking to his royal guards about how in their way to the palace, he killed a kid for no reason and now he realizes that that kid could have had the potential to surpass him in some other field. That was one of my favorite moments in this arc btw and it's a callback to how I told you guys that Togashi doesn't do child killings like that just for shock factor. The problem is that Meruem does have good intention but as Wes says, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He may have good intentions but being a new born, he doesn't really know how the real world works and only has theories about how he would implement his utopia. He's basically a teenager or a college student that is full of idealism thinking that he knows better than old people but again, even though he has good intentions, eventually it would be broken down because of real life factors.

Ammar gayal

Just to say that 130 and 131 need to be watched together. At this rate you will need to watch, 129,130,and 131 together. This is a must imo

Mr Runic

The ants are essentially a bioplague. If every female is capable of becoming a queen, then one of the humanoid ones left alive (and wishes to do so) means the potential to rapidly genocide entire nations. The King is too powerful. Too much to go unchecked, and he's only been alive for a month or two and has the potential to grow even stronger. Meruem's intended society is very much not a good one, but it is far better than his initial plans. The wording he uses is very very deliberate and will come up more later. The Royal Guard have 3 different philosophies regarding the King. Pitou and Youpi are more aligned. Pitou cares about the king's safety and happiness most of all. Youpi is a knight who will honorably enact the king's will without question. Pouf, however, believes most in his ideals of what the King SHOULD be and not who he actually is, not necessarily what the king wants or would make him happy.

Jay

I love how locked in Gon is in the first scene. He is between two of the most terrifying being in his universe and he has the nerve to keep them both hostage with 0 hesitation.

Gundeep Singh

Netero is one crazy dude and i love him for that

Gelondil

I'm going to be a voice of dissent on this one. Strong dissent, even. There is no need to change the watch order on these upcoming episodes. In fact, they should make sure not to. Whomever did the storyboarding for these episodes did a wonderful job. There are no "half episodes", there are no two-parters. Every episode stands by itself, it's focus being handled within the episode. Additionally, most every episode is amazing, so they should take the time to digest the important ones rather than rush. If 3 episodes in a row are great together, then 2 episodes plus time to stop and digest for a week before tackling the 3rd is even better. As a final point, the Chimera Ant arc ends on an even number, so if they continue as they are, the will conclude this arc at the end of their weekly drop. If they did do a 3-fer, they'll end up with drop that's half Chimera Ant arc and half of the next.

Ammar gayal

I would agree that the best way to watch it is one episode at a time. But since they are doing a two episode format, there are definitely episodes that comes together and there are sometimes drastic change in tone that would be guaring to some people that would take them out of what the first episode was. I use and example of episodes 85 and 86. There is big change from what is imo the most intense episode in the show up to that point to a more light hearted still serious episode. I would say the episodes I mentioned is to make sure they let there is no big shifts of tone that would effect there viewing. Now the episodes I mentioned doesn't have as big of a tone shift as 85 to 86, but still noticeable imo. I d like to explain more but that would be in spoiler territory

Jonas

If you remember corretly from the hunter exam, Netero choose the final test to be about the opponents making the other admit defeat to win which why Gon won because despite being weaker than Hanzo, Hanzo coudn't make him admit defeat, and it is the same exact deal he made with the king "make me admit defeat and will tell you your name". There are many other things that hint at Netero's personality and habits throughout the show and especially way back in the hunter exam that are all actually displayed in this part of the story

Rostislav

The way Netero's face changes is connected with Buddhism; his appearance and his power give off a Buddhist vibe. I'm no expert, but the evil face is somehow connected with this; the evil face of Buddha is a canonical thing

private

I think the "too powerful to be left alive" argument is one of the biggest points of this arc for sure. We humans are at the top of thr foodchain now and we have fought everything too powerful into submission or eradication that is not us (and heck EVEN a lot of us) and will continue to do so. It is BECAUSE we are capable and even willing of doing this that we automatically assume other species would aswell and because some definitely would. Even if the ants, say, were as powerful as they are now but not targeting humans as a species whatsoever and were pacifist, humans would absolutely make a move against them once they found out just how powerful (especially in the long run) they are. As humans we are obviously team human and want us to thrive as THE species on the planet and will eliminate any threat that prevents us from doing so. But there is no real deeper moral meaning besides fear and obeying the laws of nature. It doesn't matter what type of person the king is or any of the ants. They are genetically and biologically superior to us in the long term and must therefore "be destroyed before they can destroy us". Questions of would they, would they not are quickly dismissed due to risk. We pride ourselves now on our empathy and emotion but when shit really hits the fan, its back to the roots. And I think this is brilliantly brought out by this arc. The king has not understood this yet. He believes naively he can negotiate points like inequality etc. But we all here point out perfectly that it doesn't really matter what he did, what he's doing, how he's changing or what he's planning on doing. He is just another threat too powerful and needs to be eliminated. When all is said and done, we are still just animals.

Andrea Duquette

This might be a bit late but I view merurm and light yagamis mentality about the world very similarly they are both corrupted with so much power and have their mind set on the “greater good” of humanity by doing this and taking out the evile people so innocent may live in peace idk just a fun little comparison I I thought of

Mike Q

The Ant King wavering between Ant and Human with his contradictory ideals is similar to that of a child. Also, Togashi deliberately made this arc take place in a country similar to the North Korean communist dictatorship for a reason, a political system which supposedly aims to rid its society of inequality through extreme collectivism similar to how Ants work, yet human qualities of individualism, pursuit of power and hierarchy will inevitably contradict such a society.

Arian Abdolahy

In this episode I noticed how Netero was becoming the evil one and the King the good one. The King displayed multiple good characteristics: - Power is not there to be abused, but for protection, especially for protecting the weak. - He acknowledged that those who are weaker have potential and that he might not know their potential if he kills them. - He admitted that he is open to influence, one of the most important things. - He is willing to get to know someone like Komugi or Netero, without escalating the situation, despite his most important person (Komugi) was fataly injured. There are enough humans who wouldn't remain peaceful at this point and directly start to fight, without being willing to talk. For a successful relationship, the relationship researchers Gottman have also stated how friendship, meaning getting to know someone continually and being curious, is the foundation of a happy marriage and relationship and that allowing oneself to be influenced by his partner is also important. I think it's really fucked up, that someone with the Kings intelligence and power and insanely fast learning ability is treated like this and that they want to kill him. And that Netero isn't even willing to find out what's possible. He said it's not enough when only he is spared... but he could have talked about that with the King. We know already that the King respects competence. Just think about how fast he got positively influenced by Komugi. Netero said his human and ant side are manifesting and neither one is dominant but that's bs, cause you both noticed how he is totally different than when he was first being born. His human side is steadily becoming more and more manifest, it's not like he has insane mood swings, kills people randomly and goes back to being nice. I don't think our world today is better, we have a lot of corruption, war, countries rule with power, stuff behind the curtains, inequality. The King is like: This is madness, this doesn't make sense. If he'd learn about how our food and water is poisened, he would want to end this, cause it doesn't make sense, it just weakens the health of people, people like Komugi, people who could be more. And he can't be bribed, since he is already more powerful than any other being apparently. So, how can his character become warped through power, if he started with it? He will have no need for it, just like someone who is rich eventually recognizes that it doesn't make you happy.

Arian Abdolahy

How is that different to nations in our society using military power to negotiate? The basis for negotiations isn't trust and empathy, it's "I could blow your whole country up." How is that different from the king saying that first he'd need to use power and terror?

Dell12 16

Well also Netero just wants to fight Meruem, he's literally been waiting his whole life for a fight like this so he wants it to happen no matter what.

Arcane ✦

the animators put a black man with something sticking out the mouth as youpis weapon. as a black man i couldnt believe it when i first noticed, until i remembered how they drew the lips of every single black character in this show

Arcane ✦

also i didnt realize how dumb knuckle was till watching this reaction. u can't trust somebody like him.

Arcane ✦

they butter u up showing sweet dog scenes then reveal a level of stupidity that is incomprehensible. that was not honor, it was mental weakness and selfishness

Arcane ✦

referring to knuckle releasing apr

kaipn

Look in my opinion, it is a simple human nature. We dont want to be bound, even if the one binding us is god himself. King here is superior to netero in every aspect, except for experience, thats why netero was afraid of king making his heart sway just by talking. Simply because, king would defeat him in any intellectual conversation about power systems and social theories. At the end of the day, we would like to convince ourselves that we are thinking independently, then being guided by a superior being with greater wisdom. Atleast thats how modern thinking has developed in my opinion, not sure if this is because the debate around freedom has intensified in the last 100 years or so, or it is something inherent to human nature shaped by tens of thousands of years of evolution.

keanthebean

That thing on youpis arm is dark red 😭 what r u on about

Nostalgino MO

netero is not a good person by a long shot , well to be almost no one is in hxh