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Derry Girls, Season 1, Episode 5 (Patreon)

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The Fifth One! (He's in the trunk!)

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Sarah P

No one has jumped in with definitions yet, so let me give it a whirl! (Despite being half-British and having an Irish mum, I also had to look up lots of things when I first watched this — it must be frustrating wanting to know but also avoid show spoilers!) Orange Order: An “international Protestant fraternal order” (Wikipedia) based in Northern Ireland. The “parade” is part of the marches they do in the summer months. The day of the episode (4/12) is “Orangeman’s Day”, which the history of is aaaaall about a Protestant victory over Catholics. Sounds like it was an event that raised tensions (Grandad mentions rioting), hence all the “fenians” (which has its own history but here is basically just slang for Catholics) have left town. The family want to cross the border into the Republic of Ireland, where being Catholics doesn’t make them a minority. Knickerbocker Glory (what “Emmet” orders at the diner): Big, tall, layered ice cream sundae thing with fruit, meringue, syrups, etc. Also: You guys mention that there *might* be some actual danger to the public because of the sectarian conflict. Honestly? Understatement. I’ve listened to true crime podcasts that mentioned people being murdered during The Troubles, including in the 90s, where people were killed because they ended up at the wrong party and were found to be of the wrong affiliation/religion. The Protestant guy in the previous episode, who Michelle found panicked and pretending to be from Chernobyl because he realized he’d ended up in a very Catholic area — he had a reason to be worried.

Roland Cooke

To add to what Sarah P said, the Orange Order would celebrate a Protestant victory over Catholic forces two hundred years prior....by marching through the heart of Catholic neighborhoods.... Needless to say, things tended to get VERY spicy back in the day (during The Troubles). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Boyne

Roland Cooke

Tout = grass = snitch (as in, snitches get stitches). Well you can imagine that touts during The Troubles received a lot worse than a couple of stitches... You've heard of the band Supergrass, right? They do the outro song at the end of Hot Fuzz. https://youtu.be/LDc4cxdAbDU?si=LIplBICgzABalQnu Well I believe the term "supergrass" was coined for informers that testified in a series of high profile criminal trials against terrorist groups.

Joy M

They also call Emmett a “Provo,” which stands for Provisional IRA, meaning the violent arm of the IRA, deemed a terrorist organization by the British government. So carrying a Provo over the border would have been illegal. Also, they are caught in the middle of the parade with rosary beads and a St Brigid’s cross hanging from the rear view mirror. So the Orange Order would have known they were Catholics. You also see the Orangemen giving the British version of the middle finger to the family. It’s the index and middle finger gesture (reverse of a peace sign). This gesture goes back to the English cutting off the fingers of captured French archers at the battle of Agincourt, so they could no longer pull the string of a bow. It’s their version of “F you.”

Roland Cooke
>>134251940

The fingers thing is conjecture, but I love it so it's true in my head at least. However it was famously the English (originally Welsh) longbowmen that would have received that treatment at the hands of the French. (see the Battle of Agincourt / Branagh's Henry V).