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The Wire, Season 1, Episode 6 (Patreon)

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Jonathan

The white detective investigating Brandon’s death asking who can fix this department is Ed Norris who was the real Baltimore Police Commissioner at the time the show was greenlit. He was fired for not being politically aware enough, including by allowing this show to exist. The governor gave him a promotion but then city powers that be used blackmail info to have him put in federal prison for a time.

Jonathan

That is the the Baltimore police chopper. Where they film isn’t that good of a neighborhood to not see the copter flying. They usually used the traffic one from the news for high overhead shots over what the crane can do. In real Baltimore Bodie would have gotten released even easier than he did in the show. Part of why we have 300+ murders in a city of 500k

Jonathan

David Simon was a newspaper crime reporter for the Baltimore Sun. He quit to spend a year doing an in-depth study of what a homicide detectives job is really like. Years later that was adapted to the Homicide tv show. One detective he met was Ed Burns who he didn’t get to follow because Ed got detailed to a special assignment to take down a drug kingpin. After that assignment Ed left the police force and he and David spent a year in a bad drug area to do a 1 year book on the real life of everyone in the drug trade. David and Ed are cocreators of The Wire and the drug kingpin Ed was investigating was a consultant to write the Avon and Stringer stuff.

Scott Pearson Eberly

Throughout the series you’ll hear them refer to the neighborhood PIMLICO. Several years ago I was in the neighborhood covering the Preakness (middle leg of the Triple Crown, horse racing) at Pimlico Racecourse. On the Friday, the day before Black-Eyed Susan Day there was a group of reporters at the media parking lot, 100 yards from the stakes barn were robbed a gun point during the middle of the afternoon while racing was taking place. They thought the two suspects were no older than 14-15 years-old. The next day, the day of the Preakness with a 100,000+ fans in the stands and a live broadcast on NBC, there was a shootout between rival dealers just four blocks away. This was just a couple of years after The Wire’s final season, it was quite the experience.

Youtalkingtome
>>151907114

That's an amazing backstory. I read a lot about Micheal Mann. He's one of my favorite filmmakers. This sounds incredibly similar to how he approaches his films. Same could have been said for William Friedkin. Their interest in the subject and the amount of time researched and people interviewed, it's almost documentarian. This is the kind of stuff I could read about for hours.

Jonathan
>>151911887

I remember that happening. My grandparents used to live walking distance from the track and I’m only a few miles away. Just last week politicians toured a hotel built to house Preakness attendees 50 years ago. It had long been run down and was filled with kids and reminded me of Wallace’s house except they had utilities but they were living along with all kinds of illegal activity.

Brian Harris

You guys hit on some of the most consistent themes of this show in your closing commentary, especially the stuff about how the system doesn’t change, even when the faces do. Weirdly, Baltimore loves The Wire. At the time they weren’t thrilled, but they’ve really embraced the show since it went off the air.

that girl

You're reacting to this and The West Wing. If you were also reacting to Yes Minister/Prime Minister, you'd have my three favourite western tv shows

Youtalkingtome
>>151917608

That really surprises me. As I'm watching the show, I'm definitely in a "no thanks on a vacation to Baltimore" mindset. Of course, they aren't showing us the nicer points of the city here.

that girl
>>151945487

It just means you're American. Yes Minister (the Prime gets added for later seasons) is a classic British sitcom about a newly appointed cabinet minister trying to do what his party promised whilst the civil servants who nominally work for him do everything within their considerable power to prevent change in any form.

Roland Cooke
>>151945487

Yes that's very bad..... :D It's the original show about the battles between the Deep State and the Elected. Sir Humphrey Appleby is a senior (permanent) bureaucrat, who spends his days trying to manage an elected Cabinet Minister (Jim Hacker, who has a vague portfolio for narrative purposes). Hacker has a personal civil service secretary (Bernard) who gets horribly stuck between the two of them. Co-created by Jonathan Lynn of My Cousin Vinny and Clue fame, it really is the bedrock influence of a lot of shows, likely including The West Wing. It has been transposed into shows in multiple countries, since the core principles are universal. Couple of taster snippets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOvEwtDycs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX45hc0aZt0

trenton gragg

“All the pieces matter.” Is the line that defines the entire series. As scary as Avon is much worse is coming down the line.

steve borden

Stink em more than like refers to how he leaves opps because he’s muscle for the Barksdale crew, and less about his hygiene.

Robert Bauman

Good discussion on Wallace and some of the other kids in the low rises, it really is one of the most tragic parts of the show. He's basically a surrogate parent for all those kids while being still very much a child himself (we see him playing with transformers and eating chicken nuggets in earlier episodes). Bodie and Poot are both older than him (and seem less emotionally affected by stuff), but think of what those three have seen and done by the time they were in their early teens. The saddest part is there isn't really another path for them given the situation they were born into, it's hard to imagine them doing anything else

Youtalkingtome
>>152107890

I know, we talked about being born on 3rd base on a different show. This is the opposite of that. Sucks that some folks just aren't given a chance. It's very sad.

Carla Davis

Avon is NOT the devil. Lol! These are complex characters. Remember no one is really ALL bad and no one is really ALL good. As the series go on you may change your mind about a lot of these characters. Also take note that Brandon was picked up at THE GREEKS. That's all I'll say on that. Are you willing to give your thoughts on each main character at the end of each season. I've never seen anyone do that and it would be interesting to see how or if your opinion evolves.

Youtalkingtome
>>153743782

Of course we can give our thoughts on the main characters at the end of the main season! I'm sure we will and this being our first time our perception of characters is bound to change as the show goes on

John Sky

I simply had to join the patreon and experience The Wire in full with you guys. It is probably the only series apart from Deadwood that I can watch and watch again despite knowing everything that happens. It is excellent. It transcends a crime show and any one character. It's just so much fun to watch. When you reach the end of it I am curious to see what seasons will be your favorite. Every time I rewatch it I think the season I love the most changes.

Youtalkingtome
>>155524306

This season has been absolutely incredible. They've really set such a high bar with this. Thanks for being here we really do appreciate it