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The West Wing, Season 6, Episode 3 (Patreon)

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2024-12-03 01:16:19
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Third-Day Story

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WW6 3

Comments

Jake

LETS GO

Tezz Parker

thank you fellow Patreon subscribers. I loved watching you guys intro to this episode...our comments did the job...lol

Heather

This episode is a little bit of a transition point in the show.

Heather

Also, the leap from press secretary to COS is one of the more unrealistic plot points, but I kinda love it anyway!

Youtalkingtome
>>157114492

I completely agree. SO many of the central cast seems to be in a state of flux (with Leo and Charlie both potentially leaving the show). Wild.

Tezz Parker

his heart was literally broken

Youtalkingtome
>>157114617

For sure. I can't think of an example of when a press secretary has made a transition to another important role in an administration (although am sure it has happened), let alone to COS!

Adam Crandall

The whole time watching you talk about John Spencer made me smile. Now that you know that he lives, it makes all the talk that much better.

Skinny_Obelix

So yeah, when I said last week they wrote this because of his real life health situation, it was so he could move to a less straining filming schedule. I felt a bit bad of leaving it up in the air that he lived or not, seeing you guys so down on the fact he was written off the show. I love how this community avoids spoilers though.

Daniel Lydford

Leo was having the heart attack before the argument with President Bartlet. There was a scene where Toby & Josh are in a mess at Camp David, and Leo came in complaining about heart burn. He had probably already had symptoms of the heart attack for several hours at that point.

Cosmic Slice

You guys with the predictions make it SO hard for me to hold in the spoilers! I literally spend the intro yelling at my computer monitor, lol. And y'all don't hear anything about the Canadian armed forces because you don't hear much about anything outside of the US but we're the reason the Geneva Convention exists. :) We are coming up on a new election so yeah, changes are on the move!

Cosmic Slice
>>157116564

Me holding in spoilers involves me yelling excitedly at my computer monitor...lol.

Daniel Lydford
>>157114617

It makes no sense in the real world, but in the world of The West Wing they've run out of things for CJ to do as Press Secretary, and they want to give Allison Janney something new to dig into.

Heather
>>157114617

Yeah, they also needed Josh to be free to do his thing for the rest of the series.

Cosmic Slice
>>157114617

To be fair though...very few press secretaries would last 2 full terms in the positon. It's an incredibly tough job and if Bartlet didn't view her like a daughter, there have been times she very easily could have been fired.

Joy M
>>157114492

The next episode, in my mind, is the turning point of the series. It is a highlight of this season.

Joy M

Did you guys notice the two white doves (of peace) in CJ’s goldfish bowl?

Jeff
>>157114492

I always saw this episode as the finale of Season 5, and the next episode as the beginning of Season 6. I do love the next one so much.

dys
>>157114617

I don't care at all about it being unrealistic, it's so perfect and well deserved for CJ as a character.

Peggy G

What I wanna know is, why does Georgetown require a swim test for graduation?

dys

Last time I said "I have no words" about Leo, I had no words because any words would be spoilers :) The child tax credit being a bitter pill for them to swallow is interesting, in recent years that's the kind of tax cut Democrats were all for and Republicans killed.

Joy M
>>157120884

I had one for high school, but not for college. That is strange.

Yannick Denis-Trudel

I LOVE this Patreon community... We were all smiling when you guys were talking about John Spencer leaving the show and so forth. NO ONE spoiled the beans, and I'm so proud of us as a whole!

Roland Cooke
>>157114492

As much as I love this episode, it always bugged me about what's the point of having a Deputy Chief of Staff if he doesn't actually deputize for the Chief of Staff....?

Yannick Denis-Trudel

You guys called C.J.'s possible promotion half-way through the episode, congrats! Now I noticed something this time around (yeah, even after watching this series about 25-30 times already!), when Charlie was saying to Donna his deal with the president. Donna's realizing, again, that even Charlie got pushed to grow into something else, which Josh isn't doing for her at all. Remember the conversation she had with C.J. during the "No Exit" episode (the tularemia WH crash episode)... A lot of people say that C.J. getting the C.o.S position makes no sense in real life. Tell me when we got a Press secretary that was as qualified as C.J. is, and then I can say "Why not?" It's true the promotion is perhaps a bit more for Allison Janney than for C.J., but it makes sense for both their quality (character and actress)

Weird Magic

The ONLY problem I have with this episode is how it was a direct shot at the War in Iraq - like - too direct. Usually the WW is better at vaguely beating around a Bush (see what I did there....Dad joke....) Originally airing on November 3, 2004 (the day AFTER GW Bush was re-elected), 'Third-Day Story' is Episode 3 of Season 6 of The West Wing. It is the 114th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.0, placing it as the #10 ranked episode of this season and #68 out of all the episodes shown so far.

Heather
>>157120884

Most of the Ivy League universities had that requirement (until fairly recently, actually). Because of concerns about military fitness and drowning. Also subtle racism.

Taylor

I agree with what someone else said about the next episode being the true first episode of season 6. I can’t believe we’ve gotten this far already!

Pam Nail

Now would be a good time to start not watching the main credits (i.e., the theme song credits) for a while.

dys

The congressman wanting to ban all marriage in protest of gay marriage not being legal feels similar to the church my family went to when I was in high school deciding they would stop performing any marriages until gay marriage was legal. This was a Unitarian Universalist congregation in a very liberal town with a large gay and (especially) lesbian population, and this was in Massachusetts so it was only a year or two later that the state became the first to legalize gay marriage.

Youtalkingtome
>>157124369

Yeah, I'm totally fine with her promotion. We've seen time and time again she is one of, if not the smartest character on the show.

Youtalkingtome
>>157116879

Agreed. The Bartlett conversations sucks because he could have been around more people. Being out there in the woods for that long, my God.

Tessa

I just absolutely love how certain Leo was about it being CJ. No thinking time needed, no long discussion. Bartlet needed a list and he knew there was only one person for the job. This is one of the plot points that divides fans a lot, because obviously it wouldn't happen in the real world, or people feel like Josh got snubbed for it. But at this point in the show I honestly think Josh isn't ready for it. He's incredible at what he does as Deputy, but the COS itself is a whole different type of politics. And realistically, yeah, a press secretary and advisor to the president wouldn't just be elevated to chief of staff, but realistically none of these people would've been in these jobs for more than a year or 2-3. Storywise and character wise, between the three of them (four I guess if you wanna count Will as a legit option, sorry Will), CJ really does seem like the only logical choice. Toby and Jed would be throwing punches on a weekly basis, Josh isn't ready for this kind of position. CJ's the smartest of them and has a close relationship with Bartlet, and there's a reason Leo was so sure about picking her the moment Jed asked for a list. I'm so excited for you to see her adjust to the position!

Youtalkingtome
>>157120884

Kevin here. That's a good point. While watching, just assumed he was finishing his PE credit (I took a running course in college to complete mine), but if it was a general GU graduation requirement like some kind of water thesis, that is really odd.

Brian Harris

I met John Spencer once, at intermission of a performance of A Streetcar Named Desire at the Kennedy Center. I’m usually pretty cool about meeting celebrities, but I loved this show and admired his work so much, I made a bit of a fool of myself. I ran into him outside the lobby, we’d both gone out for a smoke. I looked at him, sort of agog, and he smiled. I said, “Jesus Christ, you’re Leo McGarry!” And he grinned and chortled a little and said, “Wrong on both counts. You can call me John Spencer.” Then he put out his smoke, shook my hand, and disappeared back into the lobby. One of my better celeb encounters.

Pam Nail
>>157125936

Oh yeah, I didn't mean don't let them play through, just don't look. :P

Emma Samuel

I think CJ's promotion may seem unrealistic on the surface but it makes sense when you consider the situation and Bartlet's presidential style. He doesn't like outsiders - he likes a small team of known people he trusts to consider every angle and give him informed guidance (I'd say working about 5 advisors into the ground is actually one of his weaknesses as a leader, though it makes sense for a TV show). Josh might seem a natural successor but his international/military experience is minimal (they joked he still calls Italy 'the one shaped like the boot') and they are entering a massive and complex international situation. CJ has that knowledge because she briefs on it. Also practically for the show, CJ's current role is less important bc they are entering an election where the media focus is on that rather than the sitting president. There'd be less press-related plot-lines for her and if you've got Alison Janney you want to give her awesome stuff to do!

Cosmic Slice
>>157116995

As things are coming, I just get too darned excited! Too hard too keep the spoilers inside entirely.

Peggy G
>>157156856

Yeah, you don't put Allison Janney on the bench, if you can help it. You get your Emmy winner in the game.

Cristy

I love that CJ got CoS, I know it's unrealistic but I feel like she's the best people manager out of the others so will do a better job communication wise. The comedic elements of this episode reminded me of my fave season one episode Celestial Navigation where Josh invents the secret plan to fight inflation, lol. I'm going to miss Leo in that role but the show needs to progress.

D Gyre
>>157156856

Absolutely agree. Thinking about what a chief of staff needs to do and CJ's growth over the show, I think it does make a lot of sense.

D Gyre

WOHOOO Its here...its finally here!!! Not that these episodes haven't been great ((although pretty pie in the sky with the solving Israel-Palestine)) but we are hitting the real final run of the show. Don't want to spoil to much but there's definitely certain continuity, especially in quality in my opinion, from here through to the end of the show. Whenever I do a rewatch I get excited for those first several seasons and then get excited when we hit this. All hail Chief Cregg! Strap yourselves in, avoid the opening credits, and be prepared for anything because this show closes spectacularly over these final two seasons and it doesn't stop for a breather.

Gin Snyder

As much as I am enjoying the banter and sparring with Greg Brock and CJ, I miss Danny.

shawn Johnson

When I first saw these episodes, I was for sure it would be Josh.