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The West Wing, Season 6, Episode 7 (Patreon)

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2024-12-31 01:04:32
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A Change Is Gonna Come

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WW6 7

Comments

Devon Cooper

Keep it up, guys! Lots of good stuff to come in the future. Glad you are enjoying it😎

Allison O

That’s Gilbert and Sullivan Bernard is listening to the second time Charlie goes down there :). A bit of “A wand’ring minstrel I” from the beginning of The Mikado. Nice that someone continued the G&S love after Sorkin’s departure.

Jeff

This episode is brilliant, as are the next two. So many moments from these episodes have stuck with me over the years. Martin Sheen played his conflicting emotions so well throughout, realizing he's in trouble but not wanting to reveal his vulnerability. I'm not sure if the opening credits will reveal too much to you from now on, but the "guest starring" names in the first scenes probably will, so try to ignore those if possible. You guys talked over one of the funniest lines, when Bernard met Charlie's lawyer: "Well, aren't you a frumpy little man." I just noticed for the first time that the title of the episode on the screen is simply "Change", when the official title is the name of the song, "A Change is Gonna Come." Anybody know why? I love James Taylor's cover of the Sam Cooke song, but unfortunately I think it was never recorded outside of this show.

Cristy

I am SO excited for next episode you have no idea. One of my fave characters in the whole series run makes an appearance (don't look at the credits). I love that we have Ed O'Neil, Gary Cole and Tim Matheson all in this episode, such acting powerhouses. We got such great guest stars on WW. Not sure if a show has ever been able to do that since.

Laura Room

Great episode! I love that you didn't figure out the reveal. I didn't either when I first watched it.

Joy M

As I mentioned when he resigned, Hoyes revealed classified information to his mistress to “impress” her. That’s the real problem with Hoyes. It’s not the affair.

Weird Magic

Love Bernard! (Can't think of a Bernard I don't love TBF.) HOWEVER - why did they cast a British speaker for THAT job? He's basically quoting constitutional law and he ain't even one of "us". :) lol Originally airing on December 1, 2004, 'A Change Is Gonna Come' is Episode 7 of Season 6 of The West Wing. It is the 118th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 7.7, placing it as the #17 ranked episode of this season and #96 out of all the episodes shown so far.

Roland Cooke

This is the fourth time today that I've seen Ed O'Neill, each incidence completely unrelated to the others. Crazy. 🤪

Pam Nail
>>159818975

I got hold of a recording of the song several years ago. I think it must have been recorded outside the episode because it doesn't have the fade outs for dialogue.

Roland Cooke
>>159824394

The West Wing, a clip from Modern Family, an interview with Ed O'Reilly about his favorite scenes, and a guest star role on an episode of The Unit which I've slowly been working through. (I'd say The Unit is surprisingly good, but with David Mamet as co-helm its maybe not so surprising after all).

Martin Nicholls

Good episode but honestly I've been holding off comments until the next episode, and I'm still gonna - but: the Josh thing isn't a sidelining like the ones in the past. Just clearly he was looking forward to it, and considered it a major achievement in his career. Also I think you slightly misunderstood what Leo was saying to CJ :)

MrRuss50

You know the show is about to step up its game when the entire comment section unanimously decide to tell you just how good the episodes coming up are going to be. No pressure or anything but you'd better enjoy the last 30 something episodes as much as we all did. Or else.

Heather
>>159818975

I noticed the “Change” title too. I don’t remember it being like that when I’ve watched this episode previously, but maybe I just never noticed it.

Youtalkingtome
>>159821333

As far as guest stars go, this might be the show with the best. We keep hearing how good the next episode is!

Youtalkingtome
>>159818975

Martin Sheen was incredible in this as he always is. Yeah, the title on Max was different than the screen title.

Sly_Budlong

Gonna be listening to a WHOLE BUNCH of James Taylor now, thank you guys!

Emma Samuel

I love this episode. A lovely fun story for Charlie, a lot of setting up elements for the campaign, and then right at the end the sucker punch from Bartlet. I personally think its very telling how gracefully Josh takes his brush off - he truly realises that CJ is 'the guy' and accepts it. Anyway I am absolutely DYING waiting for the next episode reaction. This is gonna be such a ride.

Emma Samuel
>>159847488

On a technical note... is there any way you can keep subtitles on? No version of the show I have access to matches the timing of your version so I spend every episode pausing four or five times a scene to keep the versions aligned. The small glimpse of subtitles were all I had to guide me. Now I have to squint at whose tie is on screen in your version!

Tessa
>>159847488

Seconding this! The subtitles were very useful guiding points to see when to pause and start again to match up

D Gyre
>>159821333

It's great and its just the beginning. Make sure to drop it nice and early for us, before 4pm Eastern!

dys
>>159824061

An affair alone likely wouldn't be enough to force a VP's resignation though, we've had plenty of high-level elected officials who managed to keep their careers after that, and that's before a certain someone lowered the bar even further in recent years

dys

One thing that (to my outsider American understanding) has changed a lot since this aired is Taiwanese support for official independence and a distinct national identity has become much more mainstream. The party directly descended from the nationalists who lost the Chinese civil war, who held Taiwan for several decades after that under authoritarian rule before it became a real democracy, and who always maintained the policy of being the true China and having a goal of eventual reunification (with them in charge), finally lost power in 2016 to a much more pro-independence party (the DPP they mentioned). Josh ended up being actually really wrong about China opening up leading to democracy there, and that curmudgeon senator was right. That was a really common expectation in the 90s and 2000s that so far has not played out at all; seems we over-learned the lesson from how former Soviet states like the Baltics transformed into strong democracies.

Michelle
>>159847488

I'm so surprised at how different the syncing is across streaming platforms! I've managed to get a perfect sync on West Wing from the original dvds I digitized years ago but my local streaming service that has it has a runtime difference of over a minute 😩

Roland Cooke

The show has now left MAX, not sure whether it has fully moved to a different streaming service, my guess is "no", albeit the whole (digital) show can apparently be purchased from a bunch of different places (Apple, Google Play). You might want to post an announcement / give folks time to adjust. (Me, I guess I'll be digging out my DVD boxed sets from days of yore).

Balazs Foldes
>>159824276

Yay for Bernard! I guess the British accent goes well with the sophistication and condescendence inherent in this wonderful character. Gotta love his jabs!

Surya Gundavarapu
>>159847488

TBH, I wonder if it will be easier to just have a clock overlay from the moment they hit play or just have a stopwatch in the background. That is safer (enforcement wise) than show more show's content. What do you think @Joe/Kevin?