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Insomnia Cinema: Gone With the Wind (1939) (Patreon)

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2025-02-23 22:36:05
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Content

Vivien Leigh, Clark Gable, Olivia de Havilland, Hattie McDaniel, Leslie Howard, George Reeves, Thomas Mitchell, Alicia Rhett, Butterfly McQueen

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GWTW

Comments

Pam Nail

Wow! Almost NO ONE reacts to this one (mostly because it's so long, I imagine) and I haven't watched it in ages. Going to hunker down with some snacks and get into it asap.

Youtalkingtome
>>165710609

Nice! Yeah, it was a long haul, but really didn't feel that long (being a visual masterpiece didn't hurt).

Michael Soukup

Vivien Leigh’s Scarlet may be one of the great performances of all-time imo. She’s selfish and insufferable but you still kind of root for her. Of course, Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar for her performance becoming the first black performer to win.

Youtalkingtome
>>165713380

Scarlet O'Hara is such a complex character. Great work by Leigh in bringing her to life (Side note: I first typed Scarlett Johansson. Yay, proofreading!)

dys

That's quite some insomnia to get through a nearly 4 hour movie :)

Jonathan

Next time you get insomnia that early keep the theme going and go for Gettysburg. It’s about as long.

Jonathan
>>165726411

It’s a good movie. I was actually there while they were filming some of it.

Sly_Budlong

This is one of my many favorites! Thank you for this reaction, it made me happy 😁

dys
>>165726411

Gettysburg is pretty good. Just don't bother with the followup Gods and Generals, which goes full Lost Cause revisionist history.

dys

I had to read the book and see the movie in middle school in Atlanta. The way the Civil War was taught in Georgia public schools in the 90s wasn't full Lost Cause, they didn't avoid showing the full horrors of slavery, but we were taught some misleading stuff about Northern economic policy being just as much at fault for the war. Then I moved back to the Massachusetts town of my birth for highschool and took AP history and learned that was bullshit, slavery was the central and singular reason for secession and there is no real disagreement among serious historians on that.

Youtalkingtome
>>165740519

Wow! That's really interesting. I'm kind of curious what the sentiment in the South is now, with all revived push to "only teach American exceptionalism and ignore 'racially disharmonious' teachings."

James Roberts

I remember reading the perfect description of this film’s plot “Gone With the Wind is a movie about two people who are desperately in love. But never at the same time.” My mom was born and raised in Atlanta so this movie was a part of my life growing up. Some great performances and sweeping, dramatic shots as only old Hollywood could do.

Joy M
>>165740519

I grew up in New Orleans and went to the University of Georgia and it was eye opening in college, as a history major, to take a class on the antebellum south. Middle school and high school history classes sugar coated a lot. Was it because our teachers were ill-educated about it? Were they trying to maintain the idea/myth that Southerners are more genteel by keeping the horrors of slavery away from us? Did they think we’re weren’t mature enough to handle the truth about slavery? I don’t quite know. But, Universities were teaching the full story, for sure.

Joy M

Warning: Book Spoilers!!! In the book Mitchell goes into how Gerald O’Hara came from Ireland to Savannah. Back then Savannah, as a port city, was one of the places immigrants arrived in the U.S. Atlanta was actually a very new city that came into existence as a railroad hub. The book goes into how Gerald O’Hara and Ellen Robillard met in Savannah. How their Catholic faith played a role in their lives. Ellen’s father was Protestant, but her mother was Catholic and raised the children to be Catholic. The Robillard family came to Savannah after a slave revolt in Haiti. There’s a lot of discussion about how the O’Hara’s were one of the only Catholic families in Clayton county where they built the plantation and how would they find husbands for the girls who would accept them. Tara comes from the old Irish kingdom name, not Terra for earth. In the book, Scarlett’s youngest sister became a nun. I think like most sheltered and spoiled children, it took a long time for Scarlett to grow up and see sense. In the book Scarlett had a child with each husband. I think it was too complicated do that in the movie and have Rhett always pursuing her.

Joy M
>>165710609

I’m telling you Out of Africa is one you need to watch. I’d be happy to donate it if it’s no longer on Netflix.

Joy M

I was working in Decatur, GA, on assignment for a month, in July 2013. One evening, I was walking around the town and got to some railroad tracks and there was a historic marker. It described an old train depot that used to be located on the spot until Sherman came through. It hit me, that this had been the place with all the munitions that blew up in Gone with the Wind. I researched it when I got back to my hotel room and that part of the book WAS based on that depot.

Actuarial Lurker
>>165740519

When visiting New Orleans on vacation in 1996 with my then fiancée and now wife of over 27 years... we went to the old slave auction house and the staff dressed in period clothes spoke of how a "young buck" could fetch $1,000 at auction and there was a disincentive to mistreating slaves since they were so costly- like wrecking your expensive sports car. My wife and I are White but the couple standing next to use were 20 something African Americans who winced at the raw reference to a young black man and the sugar coating of the violence and oppression

Actuarial Lurker
>>165740519

On a different note while in Charleston we went to the Confederate Museum run by the Daughters of the Confederacy and my wife who is a physician saw the FIRST edition of the same internal medicine text book she used in its 12th edition when she was in Med School and some filed surgery kits and the staff who were 80+ genteel Southern ladies took the text book and surgical equipment out ion the case and let my wife look at the implements and read through the book as they flipped the pages. I think that the South has a sense of humility from loss that Coastal folk like me don't have from "never having lost a War" other than Vietnam etc etc

Actuarial Lurker
>>165740519

What is odd is that New Orleans as French owned and Charleston were Catholic enclaves from the harsh Puritan discrimination in the North East. You would think this would have changed some attitudes given the very people who immigrated were the ones who were victims of British genocide....as my Irish Catholic wife points out

Youtalkingtome
>>165815822

That's awesome! So, definitely a lot of location settings used (obviously the plantations, but I was curious if more of it was filmed in LA).

Youtalkingtome
>>165812324

Thanks for sharing that! Big curiosity for me: did the book lean as much into glorifying the pre-civil war South in regards to slavery, or was that more highlighted in the film adaptation?

Youtalkingtome
>>165777999

Seriously, this is one of the most spectacularly photographed movies I've ever seen. Just beautiful. I'm so glad the decision was made to shoot it in color.

Joy M
>>165812324

Margaret Mitchell grew up thinking the South had won.

dys
>>165740519

@Actuarial Lurker I recommend you don't watch the sequel to Gettysburg, Gods and Generals, which portrays Irish immigrants fighting on the *Confederate* side crying out to Irish folks on the Union side like "can't you see we're fighting for our freedom just like against the English?" As if freedom to keep owning human beings is in any way comparable to the freedom Ireland sought from Britain.