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The West Wing, Season 6, Episode 17 (Patreon)

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2025-03-10 22:20:00
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A Good Day

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WW6 17

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Yannick Denis-Trudel

A lot of the ROT13 from last week Patreon comments were about the Canadian situation in this episode. We're a bunch from Canada, and though when it was filmed we could only laugh about the US/Canada plan to invade, we're kinda somewhere else now. Sorry about bringing real life politics in here, but it's just a topic that is soooooo incredible nowadays.

Pam Nail

- I love this episode! "Operation Sleepover" is such a great triumph, and I love how we get to see first-hand how good Santos is at this. Side note: Conservative MPs tried this same trick (they called it the "West Wing Plot") in Parliament -- and it worked! - This episode is ranked #36 on my personal rank of the series overall. (rot13 for spoilers) Arkg jrrx'f rcvfbqr vf gjragl-guerr naq gur arkg cyhzzrgf hf gb irel arne gur obggbz. - I like the touch of giving us an update on the primary calendar and that Santos has actually won a couple. - Kate's absolute incredulity at the Canada situation is what makes that whole plot. "Cross your legs"??? EXCUSE ME? - Also love Toby kind of getting his groove back after last week. Like the kid in "Isaac and Ishmael" who was like a mini-Josh, the main kid in this episode must remind Toby of himself a little. - At least a couple of those Congressmen are reprising their roles from the Sorkin years. One of them is one of the Congressmen in "Two Cathedrals" who (along with Matthew Perry's dad) ask Leo if POTUS is running for reelection. - On a superficial note, that is my favorite CJ formalwear.

D Gyre
>>167362966

Oh its something we're embarrassed about down here too. Kate's reaction isn't too far off from how many of us feel.

Darrell Henry

Loved the congressional sleepover and the fact that it inspired one of the parties in the UK to do the same thing and it worked! When you’re met with petty politics you don’t stoop to their level you outsmart them. I love the President debating economics with his old rival and the fact that he acknowledged that he had failed at something. We know how hard he works and all the things he’s done and tried to do but it’s refreshing to see a (fictional) President say I failed at this but it’s important and should be apart of the campaign.

Joy M

As someone who had to drop everything she was doing (important stuff) to go through all of our manuals and contracts to find the word “gender” on Friday; I’m right there with you Kevin. I made sure to list it in my “5 Things I Did Last Week” email. (Insert eye roll and disgust here) Coincidentally I came across an explanation video on why we need Canadian lumber over the weekend. I’ll see if I can find it.

Youtalkingtome
>>167362966

Oh, we don't fail to mention the real-life absurdity of the Trump Administration and their moronic stance toward Canada!

Youtalkingtome
>>167369611

How do so many people look at Elon Musk and unironically say "that is the smartest man alive!"? I want to see his email justifying his week.

Youtalkingtome
>>167368675

I agree. Incumbent politicians should be able to say that they have not accomplished everything they hoped.

Youtalkingtome
>>167366245

Thanks for that! Yeah, the kid who asked the president the question reminded me during the episode of the classroom visitors from Isaac and Ishmael. It really served as a great bounce-back for Toby.

Emma Samuel
>>167366245

Devastated that I missed the opportunity to share this. It's my favourite British politics fun fact, and shows what a hold this show had world wide.

Sly_Budlong

Love the reaction to this episode 😄 I haven't seen season six in a very long time, so I forgot Mako was in this as Bartlet's Rival because I really know him as voicing one of the best characters on TV in Avatar The Last Airbender as Uncle Iroh, so seeing him in this stirred up a lot of emotion! 🥹

Cristy

Who says Toby isn’t good with kids? Such a fun episode all round. I love Cliff's addition to the staff. "Do we even have a map of Canada?" Kate really shone this episode.

D Gyre

"They can just do that?" Oh my friends let me tell you about just how much power the majority in the House of Reps has to change almost all the rules at any given moment! There's some fun little procedural nods in the show, and the Senate is a bit more rigid, but yeah, the House they can write a lot of the rules on the fly. Can look at the recent budget bill where Dems came with newborns and fresh from surgery to ensure they had enough votes if there were GOP defections.. ended up not mattering since only one republican voted against, but still a similar procedural thing to this (just without the sneaky party). it could use some reform, like ensuring all reps get to vote and no stunts like the one Haffley pulled here, but there is also *some* thinking behind it for the House. In particular the Speaker of the House is the 2nd most powerful person in the government, they do get a lot of influence over the legislative agenda as they are the leader of the majority, representing the will of the majority of people. If the speaker isn't acting in that best interest, the majority can also oust him, sometimes almost too easily (like we saw somewhat recently). There's definitely concerns (unfair districts etc), but the design of the House is to give power to the majority, and that ends up putting a lot of power in the Speaker's hands, even if we added some more limitations.

dys
>>167362966

Just remember that we tried it a couple times before and each time you sent us packing.

Shawn Looney
>>167369611

So sorry that you and your coworkers are having to endure this madness. Please know that there are so many of us out here who truly value the work that our civil servants perform and that we've asked them to do.

dys
>>167372726

The second I heard Mako's voice I was tearing up.

Joy M
>>167369611

He held up 171 flights with his rocket blowing up the other day.

Jeff
>>167366245

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Allison O
>>167373767

This is so funny to me because I feel like the House has so many rules and the Senate is just like hey let’s get unanimous consent for everything! Why not! :). People get so used to how one or the other works.

Allison O

Cliff and Annabel are matching! And both in purple, nice touch. Actually I think Toby has a purple tie on, too. Wow, now Donna’s in purple too. I’m not sure I’ve ever noticed the costume design this much before. Okay like half the kids are also in purple. Now I can’t see anything else. Did any plot happen in this episode or was it all just subliminal bipartisan messaging? Why didn’t the girl in the bright green sweater get the memo? Oh look, CJ’s gown is bright purple.

Laura Room

Love this episode and I so appreciate your frustration! My 21 year old son is trans. His passport recently expired and we naively didn't renew it in time. This horrible president has absolutely infringed on my son's rights.

Weird Magic

I actually think the PO could/should be scaled back - not nearly as much mail as their used to be (email and Amazon et al have reduced volume a lot I would think). Get rid of it or privatize it - no, but I would think four days a week would save quite a bit, wouldn't it? Originally airing on March 2, 2005, 'A Good Day' is Episode 17 of Season 6 of The West Wing. It is the 128th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.4, placing it as the #3 ranked episode of this season and #37 out of all the episodes shown so far. Only 5 episodes left this season! Ends on #22

Michael Bennett

This episode is a little frustrating because it doesn't move the campaign plot forward, but it's still one of the most fun episodes the show has. I just caught on this rewatch that when the kid says "10 minutes here, 10 minutes there, it's like a plot to prevent us..." he's echoing Toby venting his frustration earlier about his schedule, and this is what gets Toby to throw out his schedule and make time for the kids. I wonder what the writers think of what's going on today with Canada (well, I have a pretty good guess, actually). They wrote about an invasion plan because how ridiculous would that sound?? And now reality is once again stranger than fiction. I would say I miss presidents like FDR and Eisenhower, but I wasn't born yet. Maybe that's how we could really make America great again.

Alex Lee

There's a great exchange between 2 of the Democrats during the sleepover: 1 "It was a dirty trick" 2 "Worked like a charm, though" 1 "The speaker crossed a line" 2 "You should've seen stuff we pulled when we were the majority" I loved this, as it says that it wasn't a dirty move because just they are Republicans, it's just how the majority plays the game.

Youtalkingtome
>>167387448

The problem with scaling it back is that "scaling back" seems to always lead to more scaling back.So many people in rural areas rely on the USPS for their prescription drugs, and those are places Amazon doesn't deliver to; they use the USPS to make those deliveries. I would hate to think service would be slowed on such important life-sustaining necessities for those people.

Weird Magic
>>167387448

Thanks for the example argument against - but TBH I'm not sure that holds water....prescription drugs (in almost every case?) are not something that needs daily delivery. Most are monthly or longer in space in between, correct? Four days a week would be sufficient to receive a monthly prescription. I'm also not one that prescribes (pun intended) to the slippery slope theory - adjusting to a more proper spot does not mean it will slide past that spot. I grew up in a rural area and my parents still live there so I do understand the scenario very well. I'm also a staunch never-Trumper but don't hate some of what he's doing. (Underline SOME) Which is unfortunate for my Freudian Superego which has become very confused lately. :(

D Gyre
>>167387448

As you said, getting rid of it or completely privatizing it would negatively affect rural citizens. So we agree you need the Post Office. Dropping to 4 days a week though isn't really going to save significant costs. Mail operations are still going to continue to move the mail, as they do now even on days the post office is closed to the public. Actually shutting down the back end except for 4 days is only going to increase the primary complaint about the PO, how slow it is. You might save *some* on overhead costs if you can close down some locations those days, but how much? Many locations are still going to have workers continuing mail operations even if closed to the public. You're not saving money on workers, as many will still be working, and those that aren't you will still have to pay them as FTE, so maybe a shift differential? Either way you're paying them full time wages. Or if you're suggesting shifting to making the front facing staff be part time workers instead, you're going to have a more difficult time filling those jobs and ensuring those people are well trained and doing the job well. Basically I just think the small savings you're going to get isn't worth the problems its likely to create, especially in making USPS even more inefficient.

kosmickrab

The sequence of sneaking Santos and candidates through the building accompanied by the score felt like old school West Wing to me.

Kelsey Krehbiel
>>167372726

Oh, that’s a great one to add to your list, even if not for the channel. Great show. Stands up over time!

dys
>>167372726

Seriously it's one of the best TV shows ever made, and Mako's character Uncle Iroh is one of the greatest characters in TV history. Also stars Ann from Arrested Development's actress Mae Whitman.

dys
>>167387193

We've got open Nazis running the government now. This is a very dark time especially for anyone who is trans. Even moving to a safe state can't help your son get his passport...

Youtalkingtome
>>167494761

British House Of Cards, British VEEP. Man I really wanna check out these political shows from across The Pond

Balazs Foldes

Ohhh, Max dropped the West Wing in my country. :( Okay, now where did I put my DVDs...?

Balazs Foldes
>>167739129

Ahh, good news, found them! Yeah, much less comfortable, but worth it. Really like this episode. interesting policies, interesting political games, good character. I really think the voting age thing, for example, is pretty fair.

Riesling

I live in Germany and I`m member of our liberal party. During the last campaign I was arguing to lower the voting age to 16 in a townhall meeting and I ended up using some arguments Cody brings up in this episode.