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The West Wing, Season 7, Episode 7 (Full Video) (Patreon)

Published:
2025-06-03 02:57:40
Imported:
2026-06

Content

The Debate

Comments

Daniel McQueen

So Santos and Vinnick were molded after then US Senator McCain and Illinois State Senator Obama. In fact, this season came out in 2005, 3 years before the 2008 election. They knew that they wanted a maverick republican and a minority democrat. It’s strange how much life imitated art.

Emma Samuel

This is one I don't often rewatch (once the novelty wears off and you know what parts are relevant later there's not much point) but I enjoyed revisiting it. I think the writing team had to work quite hard for Vinick because if you are left wing it's very hard to see a character you like spouting things you are morally and politically opposed to for 45 mins. I'm not sure who won though, I suspect in real life everyone would be so amazed at the respect and friendly tone that they'd both come off looking great. If I recall, Smits was doing another big project at the time - a play? - so was perhaps slightly less rehearsed due to time constraints. Also I'm really stupid for never having got that both of them looking sick with nerves at the start was a reference to how the actors were probably feeling.

Chris Warner

I think Vinick "winning" is not just because of the talent of the actor but his character is portrayed as the stronger debater who was always confident an open debate would be an easy win and secure him the White House. Santos being almost his equal and embarrassing him on some points is a great accomplishment for Santos.

Youtalkingtome
>>176029241

Yeah, I thought Vinick saying how nervous he was to go out and do it was a wink to the camera about how Alda must have been feeling.

Youtalkingtome
>>176017131

Life definitely imitates art here. I would love to see a reboot of the show in the age of MAGA and extreme polarization today.