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Amadeus - Theatrical Cut (1984) - Uncut (Patreon)

Published:
2025-09-06 23:22:46
Imported:
2026-06

Content

F. Murray Abraham, Tom Hulce, Elizabeth Berridge, Jeffrey Jones, Simon Callow, Roy Dotrice

Comments

Actuarial Lurker

It wasn't shown in the film- but Mozart had ZERO immediate reaction to his father's death...a few weeks later his pet bird died as Mozart broke down and wrote an extended work as an ode to his dead pet as a displacement...and then composed Don Giovanni which revealed his true "Daddy issues"

Pam Nail

- Amadeus won 8 Oscars and was nominated for 11 total. F. Murray Abraham and Tom Hulce were both nominated for Best Actor and Abraham won. It also won Picture, Director, Adapted Screenplay, Art Direction, Costume, Makeup, and Sound. It lost editing and cinematography, as well as Hulce, of course, who was in the same category as Abraham. - This is the period film that every Oscar wannabe chased for like 30 years, trying to imitate it. It's such an incredible example of a historical film that's still incredibly entertaining, without being an "eat your spinach, it's good for you" flick. - This movie takes some wild liberties with historical fact, especially regarding Mozart's and Salieri's relationship. After Mozart died, Salieri was for a time a suspect in his death, but from all accounts the two of them were likely friends -- at the very least, friendly colleagues. - Tom Hulce IS playing, but the harpsichords on set made no sound, so what you're hearing is a recording by a more skilled musician. He did practice a lot so that the playing looked as accurate as he could make it. (I'm sure many pianists have analyzed the clips to see how accurate his fingering is.)

Brian R.

I haven't seen this movie in a while but one thing I remember being so impressed by was how skillfully they incorporate Mozart's music into all the different scenes. They use pieces from so many different parts of his catalogue in terms of genre(symphonies, operas, concertos, masses, and obscure pieces he wrote like the adagio for glass harmonica) and works he wrote from his teens to those he wrote in his final days. All integrated so well throughout the film.

Actuarial Lurker

1) Regarding lighting- there were new patented oil lamps used for plays and operas that were invented in the 1780s and Mozart WAS an early adopter....2) also Figaro WAS only performed 9 times in Vienna but then it spread to Prague (the other major Eastern European cultural city at the time) and was a major success and played all over Europe..3) the farce where they mock Don Giovanni represented real works where Mozart adapted his operas and gave "popularized" versions for the lower classes called "Singspiel" through his friend, Emanuel Schikaneder, who is the guy we see negotiating with him and his wife Constanze in the sky box. These basically formed the modern distinction between "formal" Opera that people dress up for and casual Broadway-style Musicals today, 4) that group of "ass-kissers" surrounding the Emperor were REAL people, Counts and Barons who were essentially the "Privy Council" , Ambassadors and Leaders of The Reichstag

Brian R.
>>186415606

It was Mozart's pet starling, "A little fool lies here, whom I hold dear." In his letters, I remember he talked about the piano concerto he was composing and he was trying to teach the starling to sing/chirp out the main melody. The starling apparently almost got it down but was a little off. I don't think it's known if Mozart wrote the melody first then tried to teach his bird, or if he was inspired by something else the bird sang. Listening to it though, the theme does sound really bird-like, right? Idk if I can paste youtube links in here, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsdfPVM0stI&list=RDAsdfPVM0stI&start_radio=1

Pam Nail

I love that dictation scene so much. It's such an incredible look at how Mozart's mind works, and it's a genius move to show us all the individual pieces -- each voice and instrument (as a composer would write it) -- and then play the finished version, where thanks to the previous scene you can hear all those pieces and how they work together. Incredible.

Erin Mileur

The makeup man on Amadeus Dick Smith was also the makeup on Little Big Man, The Godfather, The Exorcist, Scanners, and Death Becomes Her. He won the Oscar for his work on this movie. During his lifetime he was known as “The Godfather of Makeup”.

Kevin L

Mozart's Requiem has a complicated history (spawning fascinating myths like this Salieri connection on which Shaffer based his play) and is one of the great unfinished works in the choral repertoire. The famous Lacrymosa we hear in the burial scene was completed posthumously by others, as were further sections, and some mystery still surrounds various details -- particularly thanks to Costanze's shady actions. Kinda fascinating really! But the work is still frequently performed and greatly loved by singers.

Erin Mileur

When Mozart says he is a vulgar he was he was a notorious lover of poop jokes he even wrote a song entitled “Lick me in the arse”.

Actuarial Lurker

My wife introduced me to classical music and most, if not all, that I know- including the random trivia cited below- I learned from full (non-credit) semester long college level courses given by a company founded in the 1990s as The Teaching Company, became The Great Courses and is now a subscription channel Great Courses Plus that you can buy from Amazon or directly. Professor Robert Greenberg of the San Francisco Conservatory is a composer and music historian and has courses on that platform on each of the 20 or so major classical composers covering their bios and major works as well as full semester courses in Music Theory, Classical Music history, classical "forms" (concertos, symphonies, operas, violin works, piano works etc). Highly recommend listening to these as you drive, work out, jog etc.....its also a stand-alone service https://www.thegreatcoursesplus.com

Clare Manion

Bravo! Bravissimo, maestri! I’m so thrilled you enjoyed this one – I’ve been looking forward to this so much, you have no idea :) I had a ton of notes for this one, but for the sake of (relative) brevity, I’ll keep it to opera notes (and yes, all the operas mentioned are real)... Marriage of Figaro – If you ever get the chance, please, please go see it! It’s hilarious. A rom-com meets Looney Toons. (BTW - The duet featured in Shawshank Redemption is from Marriage of Figaro.) Don Giovanni – Excellent catch between the opera and his father’s arrival! Perhaps interestingly, Don Giovanni is about a horrible rake who gets his comeuppance – dragged down to hell in that blaze of pyrotechnics. I saw it in 2016 just before the election... if only... Magic Flute – The mother-in-law transforming into the Queen of the Night is always hilarious to me. The whole opera is a fairy tale, which pissed off the Free Masons because apparently it gives away some of their secrets, but whatever... On a personal note, Magic Flute is finally playing in my area this spring – I’m so excited! And lastly... the Requiem/Confutatis – Such a brilliant scene! There’s a YouTube video that shows the notation as it’s being written in the scene – since I gather you both read, or maybe used to, I think you’d get a kick out of this: https://youtu.be/dJ0AkP_BFhs?si=PwT2a5pdazhOS9el

Clare Manion
>>186425374

P.S. -- Meeting Mozart/“Gotta love having your own work butchered like this.” – Ok, funny story: Growing up, we had a friend of the family that was a composer, mainly for middle/high school orchestra. A wonderful person, like an uncle to me. He once attended an orchestra concert at my high school (notoriously not great). As he listened to one piece he thought, “oof, who wrote this?” Then he looked at the program. He wrote it. He couldn’t even recognize his own work when they played it...makes a great story though :)

Youtalkingtome
>>186417578

The use of music is brilliant! At times you almost don't even realize it's playing until it cuts out abruptly.

Youtalkingtome
>>186415828

I was wondering if Hulce was actually playing. If you're portraying Mozart on film, you better take some piano lessons.

Biff McKeldin

A far less successful filming of a Peter Shaffer play is Sidney Lumet’s EQUUS (1977). It was a very literal rendering of very stylized theatrical work. I’ll bet when it came to AMADEUS, Shaffer decided not to make the same mistake twice. On screen it’s very much a movie. I confess though—I have a weakness for EQUUS — the performances led by Richard Burton are brilliant. It might be worth taking a look at.

Raul Panzar

This is no joke my favorite movie of all time! I consider Salieri one of the all-time best movie villains, that's why he got the Oscar. He was driven by ego and jealousy but it's done in such a perfectly acted way. You feel his need to be loved by God and also his need to be admired by Mozart, and his true admiration for Mozart's music. The real tragedy is he could have been close friends with Mozart, but he chose to be a hater instead.

Danielle

I've been waiting for you guys to get to this one ever since I saw it on the list! I really enjoy this movie every time I watch it. A really well done villain, by all accounts. It was definitely Salieri's movie.