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The Favourite (2018) - Uncut (Patreon)

Published:
2025-09-13 00:34:36
Imported:
2026-06

Content

Olivia Coleman, Emma Stone, Rachel Weisz, Nicholas Hoult, Joe Alwyn

Comments

Jonathan

The 2019 Oscars certainly were not a thrilling year. I watched everything but there were only a few I’d watch again. I was on the fence with this, but will watch it with you guys. I didn’t finish Roma either for the same reason. BlacKKKlansman and Can You Ever Forgive Me with Melissa McCarthy getting nominated for a drama were probably the two standouts that year.

Jérémy

I am the person that loved Nomadland 😂 it was my favorite movie of that year. That said I am with you with Green Book and Crash. Also with Coda, which was fine but the original french film was better and still that one wasn't oscar worthy. This was a fun re-watch for me I hadnt seen it since first watching it in theaters. It remains my favorite (no pun intended) Lanthimos. I'm also not big on The Lobster but I did enjoy Poor Things and The Killing of a Sacred Deer. I think the main trio of actresses really make this movie shine. I believe Weisz was also nominated for best supporting actress at the Oscar's like Emma but neither won.

Clare Manion

I'm rather on the fence about Yorgos Lanthimos' movies - there are many aspects of them I like a lot, and then some aspects that are just... a lot. However, now that you mention it, I totally see the nod to Kubrick. Olivia Coleman is fantastic here, absolutely deserving of the Oscar. I don't know much about Queen Anne, but if any of this is even remotely accurate - oh God. I'd be a wreck too if I lost 17 children. Can't even begin to imagine. Unsettling music - Yes! That two-note theme is perfect. (Or rather, one note alternating between pizzicato and bowed.) Like a baroque Jaws :) Also - I really like the detail of how the title cards are formatted, mirroring how books/etc. were printed at the time. It a little thing that adds to the period feel.

Lola Lirola
>>187057761

Same! I feel so conflicted about Lanthimos. I love how daring and personal he is. I love that he's not interested in a mainstream audience. I love that he goes for true weirdness. And he has great command of imagery and tone. And impressive attention to detail. But I get the uncomfortable feeling that he thinks reveling on showing women in demeaning situations is "brave", you know? His idea of "daring" kinda masks a lot of unpacked biases, for me. And I absolutely love that Emma Stone is going gung-ho on letting her freak flag fly; we for sure need more female weirdness!! But I'm beginning to feel that them both egging each other on is becoming quite insular and pretentious.

DGriff

You asked about the succession. Obviously, the film is not especially historically accurate and was not meant to be (for a start, Anne had a husband she was very close to) but the succession issue is taken from history. Queen Anne did have a tragic history with pregnancy (though the rabbits are an invention of the film) and she was the last monarch of the House of Stuart. After her only son to live past the age of 2 died aged 11, there was a minor succession crisis that was resolved by Parliament voting to pass the throne, upon Anne's death, to her second cousin, the Elector of Hanover, who would take the throne in 1714 as George I. The House of Hanover would remain on the throne until the death of Queen Victoria in 1901 (her children took her husband's house). The basic personal politics of the situation are also broadly historical. The Duchess of Marlborough was the Queen's favourite and did favour Godolphin. A lady-in-waiting called Abigail did rise to prominence as the Duchess fell out of favour and, as in the film, Abigail was a relative of Marlborough. Though, in reality she was also a relative of Harley (Nicholas Hoult's character) and, as in the film, favoured him. The real Anne did also struggle with joint pain. A lot of modern medical historians think it probably wasn't what we would now refer to as gout (a build-up of uric acid crystals between the joints), but that was the diagnosis at the time. There's not really any evidence of any sexual relationships involving the three but that doesn't necessarily mean much, it is just impossible to know. She was certainly very close to Marlborough and, later, Abigail and this did produce rumour.

ScarlettMi

Roma won the Best Cinematography Oscar that year, and I’d say rightfully so. There are some truly breathtaking shots in that movie. I’m more disappointed that Poor Things ended up losing to Oppenheimer.

HereBeMeghan

Nicholas Hoult is always great at playing a weird little (tall) guy.

Actuarial Lurker

The Lobster was strange but made sense as an Existentialist commentary film

Actuarial Lurker

Joe and Kevin: Historical context- Catholic KIng Charles II took the throne after the Republic under the Cromwells (who ethnically cleansed Ireland of Catholics in the 1650s). His brother James had two daughters- Mary and Anne who were raised Anglican to quell public suspicion of a Catholic monarchy. Mary was paired in an arranged marriage with Dutch William a Calvinist and Anne to a German Lutheran. James a quiet Catholic inherited the throne in 1685 and was deposed by a coup (the 1688 Revolution) with "William and Mary" being installed by force. The 1688 revolution essentially finished the job of the genocide of Catholic under Cromwell. Anne who is the subject of this film took the throne in 1702 after their death.. Parliament passed Orwellian "Religious Toleration" laws that tolerated Protestants like the Quakers and Puritans that had fled to the Americas but exempted Catholics, Jews, and Muslims. It resulted in harsh anti-Semitic and Anti-Catholic laws such as the "Anti-Popery Act of 1698" and violence with priests being lynched for saying Mass, Catholics having to go out in to farm fields to get primary education (named hedge schools) just as slaves in the US had to be taught to read and write in secret, Catholics and Jews were banned from professions (like MDs, lawyers etc). Protestants could steal land that were to be inherited by Catholics and Jews who had no recourse in court (foreign Jews could not own land, native born Jews could, Catholics could not) and just like the "Indian schools" in Canada and the US where Indigenous kids were "raised White" the orphans of Catholic families were forced to become Protestants. This forced Catholics who could no longer legally own land to become "sharecroppers" and when potato crops failed in the 1840s a few generations later it lead to the death of 4 Million+ Catholics and the mass migrations to the US. Sectarian violence in Northern Ireland in the 1970s involved "Orange Man" who are extremist Protestants who admired William of Orange and liked marching around Catholic neighborhoods bragging about the death of Catholics under the reigns of William and Mary and the results of the 1698 Penal laws that continued under Anne. Just like US neo-Nazis marching in Chicago suburbs where Holocaust survivors lived, in the 1960s and 1970s the Orangemen would march in Catholic areas on the anniversaries of prior atrocities against Catholics. In the US the Supreme Court ruled this free speech. In Northern Ireland the IRA responded by blowing up Orangemen...

Actuarial Lurker
>>187114526

This context is important since Anne was the Queen when much of this Anti-Semitic and Anti-Catholic violence mushroomed and she did nothing to stop it and you are about to watch "In the Name of the Father" as a patreon movie pick which is about The Troubles in Northern Ireland

Youtalkingtome
>>187078609

That was very helpful. I thought the story was great, so liberties with history didn't bother me at all (tell a good story well, please). As you said, the film never pretended to be a historically accurate biopic.

Abby T W

Since you enjoyed this film, I would recommend checking out The Great. It’s a TV show that, if you look it up, shares a lot of DNA with this film and feels tonally very similar. I’m a big fan of both!

dys
>>187054081

Agree with you that Coda was just... fine. Great performances but the script was the purest Oscar bait. Doesn't make it bad but it just has that specific kind of sentimentality when you're clearly writing something for the academy.