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In the Name of the Father (1993) - Uncut (Patreon)

Published:
2025-09-19 02:59:10
Imported:
2026-06

Content

Daniel Day-Lewis, Emma Thompson, Pete Poslethwaite, John Lynch, Anthony Brophy, Don Baker, Beatie Edney

Comments

Roland

The soldiers with red berets are from the elite Parachute Regiment. These guys are trained to be highly disciplined and combat effective (see Falklands and WW2), and their training includes aggression. Exactly what you want on the battlefield, not so much in a police force. (Technically the army patrols were there to protect the police officers, obviously things spiraled down from there). The Parachute Regiment was deployed exactly because they were elite and disciplined. They were the troops involved in the incident that turbocharged The Troubles (Bloody Sunday). > Bloody Sunday did not start the Troubles, but it was a crucial and escalating event within the conflict. The Troubles had already been ongoing for several years, dating back to the civil rights movement of the late 1960s. The 1972 massacre is considered one of the most significant and destructive moments of the entire 30-year conflict. <

Roland

The factual deviations in the movie were pretty bad at the time, and look even worse in 2025. TTBOMK, other IRA bombers were not housed alongside the Guildford Four, and there was no incident where a prison officer was set on fire. There are other issues as well, including to do with the legal proceedings, see Controversies in the Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_Father

Roland

IIRC, the explosives residue on the hands of the family members was later determined to have possibly come from the surface coating of playing cards. Thin evidence that could and should have been thrown out very quickly.

Roland

The real bombers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcombe_Street_gang Between October 1974 and December 1975 they carried out approximately 40 bomb and gun attacks in and around London, sometimes attacking the same targets twice. The unit would sometimes carry out two or more attacks in one day; on 27 January 1975 they placed seven time bombs in London.[2] On 25 November 1974, they carried out three bomb attacks in the centre of London injuring 20 people.[3] They were eventually caught during the Balcombe Street siege in December 1975, thus ending their 15-month bombing campaign in England. They have been described as "the most violent, ruthless and highly-trained unit ever sent to Britain by the Provisional IRA". Nineteen people were killed in the ASU's campaign: 16 from bombings and three in shootings. Six of the dead were British military personnel, one was a London police officer, one was a member of the bomb squad, and 11 were civilians. The Balcombe Street four came to trial at the Old Bailey on 24 January 1977. On 9 February 1977, the jury acquitted the defendants on twenty-six of the hundred indictments. On the remaining charges, the Balcombe Street Four were found guilty and each received a thirty-year minimum sentence. All were released on 14 April 1999 under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement.[13]

Roland

I grew up in the middle of all of this. The Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six were headline news on a regular basis. From the other perspective, it amazed me when I travelled to the States in the 1970-80s, and saw people leaving bags casually lying around in airports, train stations and the like. That would NEVER have happened in the UK at that time. The fear was palpable. (And we had it easy compared to those living in Norn Iron).

Roland

I posted already about some of the inaccuracies of the movie, but the thing that sticks with me is that there wasn't (TTBOMK) any surprise development leading to the overturning of the convictions, rather an eventually MASSIVE pressure campaign, which is only loosely alluded to in the film. _Everyone_ knew they were innocent, from maybe five years before the final appeal was successful.

Actuarial Lurker
>>187754392

On the other hand we have had a theater of the absurd here since 9/11..... TSA searching the Elmo doll of a 2 year old girl, security screaming at 85+ year olds, making nursing women taste their own breast milk....

trenton gragg

I’ve seen this film many times before, but now just realized that a young Mark Sheppard as Paddy Armstrong is in this film. As a fan of the series Supernatural he was great as Crowley.

Roland

Some other factoids: The famous song 'Zombie' by the Cranberries was inspired by the (mainland UK) Warrington bombing that killed two young children, powerful music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&list=RD6Ejga4kJUts&start_radio=1 > Three-year-old Johnathan Ball died at the scene. He had been in town with his babysitter, shopping for a Mother's Day card.[1] The second victim, 12-year-old Tim Parry, was gravely wounded. He died on 25 March 1993 when his life support machine was switched off, after tests had found only minimal brain activity.[7] Another 54 people were injured, four of them seriously.[4] One of the survivors, 32-year-old Bronwen Vickers, the mother of two young daughters, had to have a leg amputated, and died just over a year later from cancer.[13] < + One of the most shocking events of the mainland bombing campaign was the bombing of Hyde Park and a couple of hours later, the Regent's Park bombing. These attacks targeted ceremonial displays, bandsmen and mounted troopers. The wikipedia page features a distant, but still graphic, image showing the animal casualties, very sad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park_and_Regent%27s_Park_bombings

Suzanne Whyte

They haven’t seen Last of the Mohicans?! That needs to go on a poll or something.

Erin Mileur

If you’ve never seen it another movie to check out set around the same period and with the IRA is the Long Good Friday (1980) starring Bob Hoskins and Helen Mirren.