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Erin Mileur

The creator Tony Gilroy is the writer of the first three Bourne movies and the writer/director of Michael Clayton. Gilroy also did extensive rewrites on the film Rogue One and many people since Andor has come out have given him credit for many of the best things in that movie.

Kevin Biever

I’m so excited that you’re finally doing this show. It’s so good!

Erin Mileur

Fiona Shaw was so impressed with the set of Maarv's home that she often go outside and just stare at it.

Leah W.

I can't watch your reaction right now, but Andor is so good. I don't even know anything about Star Wars, and it blew me away

Actuarial Lurker

Star Trek fan here says "I'll pass"...sorry!

dys

I'm sure I'm probably the 100th person to tell you this, but this is a show you should watch even if you do not like Star Wars. It is using the Star Wars setting to tell a very specific kind of story that is especially resonant and powerful with the state of the world today.

dys

Honestly, I didn't even like Rogue One that much but this show is incredible.

Paul T Hewes

Next to The Pitt, Andor season 2 was the best show on TV last year.

Paul T Hewes

its an intrigue/insurrection show that happens to be in Star Wars...

dys

My Star Wars background: My parents saw the first movie in theaters on their first date. I grew up watching the original trilogy on VHS and TV, watching the first movie after Thanksgiving became a family tradition. I saw all the special edition releases in theaters as a kid. I saw Phantom Menace in the theater the week it released when I was in middle school. As a 12 year old, I was blown away by the spectacle, but by the time Revenge of the Sith came out I was in highschool and completely soured on the prequels, and I still think they're pretty terrible. I liked The Force Awakens, thought it was a pretty promising start to a new trilogy. Even if it played it safe and retread old ground, I really liked what they were setting up with Rey and Finn, and thought Harrison Ford rallied to give a great swansong performance when he'd been phoning everything else in for the last 10-20 years before. It was just a very well-made movie even though it wasn't that original. I hated The Last Jedi, I like a lot of Rian Johnson's work but the combination of so much of it being a bottle episode and effectively playing uno reverse card on anything the previous film setup made it worthless to me. I didn't much care for Rogue One either, it broke "show don't tell" too much and I didn't really connect to any of the characters (except K-2SO, because Alan Tudyk is the best). None of the things I disliked about Rogue One are in Andor. It is a masterfully told story from beginning to end.

Chris

It's pretty clear from interviews that Gilroy is kinda... m'eh... about Star Wars in a larger, world-build-y sense... but he's an amateur student of revolution and authoritarianism, so he really understands that the five year period leading up to Episode IV is an awesome sandbox in which he can explore all those ideas.

Michael Bennett

Oh man, I'm not ready for this. Here I go. :D

Erin Mileur

He has said that a major influence was the podcast series Revolutions. If you are into history podcast it’s great.

Jonathan

I was curious what your take would be on this. I just got done watching season 1 on another channel but so far I enjoyed episode 1 more here than I did on the first time watch.

Jonathan

The Starfighter movie was a project in development with the director of Wonder Woman and Chris Pine starring. It was the furthest along in development when Disney shut down all Star Wars theatrical projects. It was supposed to be Star Wars Top Gun originally. I'm curious what Shawn Levy is doing with it. It's coming out Memorial Day 2027

Yannick, from Montréal

Hi Actuarial Lurker. I'm a Star Trek fan (TNG-DS9-Voyager-TOS), but I have to concur with dys on this... This is a great show... point. Whether it's in the Star Wars universe or not, the plots are absolutely NOT linked to the Star Wars lore. There's NO Lightsabers, NO Jedis, NO characters that aren't needed for the plot. It's a slow burn so you'll have time to get into the series. Think of Season 1 as a mix of intrigue/spy that happens to be in a Star Wars universe, and Season 2 as a political insurrection intrigue that takes so many thing out of reality that you won't even feel Star Wars has anything to do with it. And the quantity of real sets that are use are never seen before in a Disney/Star Trek project. They NEVER used The Volume to film this, unlike Mandalorian, Ashoka, Book of Bobba Fet, Obi-Wan, etc.

Chris

Currently wearing one of the Martian Revolution shirts.

Yannick, from Montréal

YAY!!!!! Thank you for this! And I'm writing this BEFORE seeing your take on it. Just to clarify, there's 2 seasons, and for the timeline, there cannot be more seasons. By the way, BBY means Before the Battle of Yavin, or best known as the last battle of the first Original trilogy movie, Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope. So this is 5 years before that movie.

JustALilTired

100% agreed on all the Star Wars takes with one exception…I do recommend giving The Mandolorian another try. It does a good mix of practical sets/costumes and builds up some fantastic characters. The first two seasons are great, S3 and Book of Boba Fett I could leave or take. Excited to see your thoughts on the rest of Andor!

Actuarial Lurker

Okay- will give it a try I saw Star Wars in 1977 first run and liked it since I was an 11 year old kid who liked space..I found The Empire Strikes Back "OK" but psychologically incoherent- this isn't how "Daddy Issues" work. I also found "the Force" to be stupid. Return of the Jedi was also "OK" but when it ends with another destruction of a Death Star- I shook my head...couldn't they write something else other than cut and pasting the ending from the first film? My wife and I walked out of Phantom Menace...call us snobs but we found it that bad. If this doesn't have Jedi, The Force and childish Marvel Comics like plots ( I hate comic book films as well) then maybe it's good

Yannick, from Montréal

This is ADULT Star Wars. Don't worry about meaningless scenes. I'm sure your wife will also be impressed by this show. Hats off to your open mind.

dys

As Yannick said there's no Jedi or lightsabers, but that barely registers in the reasons why I think Andor is a masterpiece. It is psychologically coherent in every way you found other Star Wars entries not to be... it is just using Star Wars to tell the "It Can't Happen Here" story in a way that is rooted both in deeply drawn characters and the very real history of when these kinds of movements have happened in our world.

Yannick, from Montréal

To help the watching of the series, here's a quick guide for Season 1: Ep 1-2-3: Arc 1 Ep 4-5-6: Arc 2 Ep 7: Bridge Ep 8-9-10: Arc 3 Ep 11-12: Finale For Season 2, it's even simpler. It's 4 arcs of 3 episodes.

Kristi Govertsen

Wahooo! This is the best show—not just in the Star Wars universe. Season 2 had 14 Emmy nominations for good reason.💙 This is also one of the best pieces of anti-fascist storytelling out there, and an important watch for everyone right now. As for the timeline, Season 1 takes place five years prior to A New Hope. Season 2 takes place over the four years leading directly into Rogue One. Both seasons have twelve episodes each.

dys

I haven't watched most of the other Disney+ Star Wars shows. I watched a few episodes of The Mandalorian, but while I love Pedro Pascal it was too episodic and never had stakes that caught my interest. Never watched any of the Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, or Asoka shows. I DID watch the CG Clone Wars series, and look a lot of it is actually very bad. I would not have watched through the whole thing if it wasn't right after I'd graduated college and moved to a new town with nothing to do where I didn't know anyone and had a lot of time on my hands waiting to start my first job after college. The animation style is an acquired taste at best, a lot of the annoying Jar-Jar level kids' stuff from the prequel movies is there... But what makes it worth it for me in the end is the writing and acting for Anakin, and the characters around him that his arc plays off of, is SO much better than in Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith. The actor who plays this Anakin you can actually believe is a charismatic hero, someone Obi-Wan would actually consider a brother, but with a dark side that slowly reveals itself in a chillingly believable way. You can actually see when this Anakin's heroic traits are tested and when he sometimes falls short. You see him get angry over something justifiable and go slightly too far. You see him go from someone like Dean in Gilmore Girls who's decent but a little bit too controlling and then cross over that line. It's great writing that makes everything else that is not great about that show worth it.

Michael Bennett

This show was originally planned for 5 seasons, but with more than 2 years between seasons, they would have had to keep everyone around for more than 10 years, and that was going to be impossible certainly for Diego Luna and Stellan Skarsgard, and probably others. So they ended up making season 2 a 4-parter, with a year of Star Wars time between each part. I would have liked more, but what we got was so good, I really can't complain. Rogue One is actually my favorite Star Wars film, which is weird, but it's true. It was a love letter to Star Wars fans in so many ways, and just a good movie otherwise.

Actuarial Lurker

After seeing the entire Civil Rights movement and the people who died in that fight have SCOTUS $hit on their graves I may need to wait until tomorrow to watch an "It can't happen here" series

Michael Bennett

I hope you'll stick around Actuarial Lurker, I enjoy your takes. :) Episode 3 is where it really picks up, if you don't like it by then, you probably won't like it.

dys

I'm with you there. I will say the show doesn't really touch on the racial aspects of fascism at all, so things like that SCOTUS ruling making it impossible to address the impact the legacy of Jim Crow has continued to have are not quite what the show is about. But it is about everything else captured in "It can't happen here", and it is brilliant for doing that in a Star Wars show showing what the transition to fascism looks like when we've been playing out a lot of those steps in the United States exactly as in this show that came out a few years before.

Chris

Actuarial Lurker--to chime in along with everyone else, to give you an idea when the show ended I was like "more of this please" so I went and finally watched Che. (And not like, Kenobi.)

I🖤Kraken

I'm not a huge Star Wars fan. I've seen the originals and Rey & Finn, no prequels but this has gotten such accolades for its themes that I'm eager to watch. Btw, the Chief Inspector was the cretin in 4 Weddings who hit on Andie MacDowell at The Boatman. "I think I'm in there..."

Roland

Gilroy actually caught a few strays after S1 because Andor wasn't Star Warsy enough. For example, beyond the alien hulkster "he just told me to stand here", there aren't many aliens. It's a reasonable criticism, but conversely once the peril starts ramping up, there aren't any woo-woo distractions, no fanservice, etc, and yet you never forget you are deep inside The Empire.

Roland

Gilroy rightly gets plenty of credit for this amazing piece of art, but there also needs to be a massive shout-out to Kathleen Kennedy for greenlighting this show, especially with the insane budget for S2, and especially when it became clear that a 5-season story wasn't viable.

Carl Wilson

I've only seen the original trilogy, and literally not since I was 12 (which was a loooong time ago). But I keep hearing how interesting this series is, and thematically compelling, and have been considering watching it now that it's done. Then I was wondering what you were replacing Severance with, checked the page tonight, and *bang. So I'm in for at least a few eps. Unless it gets too Star Warsy.

Suzanne Whyte

Actuarial Lurker, I have always been a Star Trek fan but not particularly a Star Wars fan but I loved Andor. It’s one of my absolute favourite shows.

Pam Nail

Syril Karn is certainly an eager beaver. I really love his character because we've all known someone like that.

John Marnell

1) By the end of this show I would not be surprised if you both have a new favorite Star Wars character. I have a guess as to who the frontrunner for that honor will be, but there are a few that could qualify. You guys are going to LOVE this show. 2) I am of the unshakeable opinion that Episode 9 straight up should be stricken from canon. The story ends at the end of The Last Jedi. The kid force-pulls the broom, smash wipe to credits, series wrap. We don't need to see what happens next, the audience understands in that moment that the Resistance is going to win. This was my position walking out of TLJ and nothing that has been put on screen since has disabused me of it.

John Marnell

Yep, can confirm what Yannick said. This show is a slick political thriller first and a Star Wars property second.

micah

THE GASP I JUST LET OUT AT THIS NOTIFICATION!!!! so excited to see what y'all think 😁😁😁

Suzanne Whyte

I’m so happy the guys are finally doing Andor. I watched the original trilogy as a kid but of the recent stuff I have only watched Rogue One, Solo and The Mandalorian. I loved Rogue One so I gave Andor a try and I absolutely loved it. It deserves all the accolades that it gets.

Anndra

I think Andor gets a bit more praise than it warrants on account of being Star Wars and I don't think it's a flawless show - I think it's really quite flawed at times, usually when it pivots to be more Star Warsy - but it's definitely worth a watch and one of the best things that's come out of Disney-owned Star Wars. It certainly beats the hell out of The Mandalorian and the other TV shows, and Diego Luna does a really good job. Looking forward to rewatching it with you two, especially some of the first season arcs which I really enjoy.

Lola Lirola

Omg, YES!! So here for this.

Lola Lirola

I'm all the way with you both on this!! Rise of Skywalker is an abomination. (Last Jedi is actually good, I said what I said!) The prequels are actually quite bad. (The "Natalie Portman frolicking in a field with CGI potato animals" scene is genuinely How Did This Get Made material.) Rogue One is the best of the new ones. ...And Andor is an incredible show. Not even a great Star Wars show, just a great show, period. This is so exciting!

Lola Lirola

Gasp! Nooooo! Come in for the political thriller!! I swear it's worth it, and it's not bogged by lore!

Paul T Hewes

Adria Arjona, Bix, is very high on the list to be James Gunn’s Wonder Woman. They tried hard to hide how stunning she is; but they failed. -Yes, she was in the Hit Man movie. She was very hard to look away from in it. -B2-EMO is very much like a sad old Labrador, who can talk and tell you how sad he is.

Erin Mileur

A major influence for Tony Gilroy was the podcast Revolutions. If anyone likes history podcast it’s great.

TalynOne

This, each arc is like a mini series.

GDF

Lots of reactors have done a re-watch/re-reaction of Rogue One straight after finishing Andor. I hope you also do a rewatch of it on here. Andor really does change your perception of it.

trenton gragg

“Welcome to Rebellion.” Their will be a few recognizable faces from game of thrones on this series.

Ashleep

Oh my gosh I am almost TOO EXCITED

Actuarial Lurker

Part way through episode 1- great cinematography, has the feel of Alien/Aliens with modern CGI

Actuarial Lurker

Corporate Security Headquarters- where the US is headed with AI, surveillance, and data centers with the complicity of corporate Democrats. Having to instruct a droid not to snitch on you is not far off in the future... This is what was in Biden's Infrastructure Bill for ALL 2026 and later model year cars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMnHLbbaJ6I

Actuarial Lurker

The ,mining town setting has the feel of Elder Scrolls or similar RPG melded with SciFi So far it seems interesting ...the plot seems a bit predictable or forced: its obvious they will follow him out of the brothel, that Andor has to kill the second guy, that the enthusiastic mid-level security guy will investigate anyways, that the boyfriend follows her.... Will see what episode 2 brings

D Gyre

Let's GOOOOOOOO

Clare Manion

I get the feeling that this is going to be a lot of fun :) Much like you guys, I've been told to watch this show for the longest time, but just never got around to it. Now after seeing episode 1 here, I'm super impressed. So far so good with characters and story, but mostly I'm just thrilled by the use of practical sets and costumes. Even the little details, like the people living in the woods - the color palette of their clothing is all stuff you'd be able to achieve with natural dyes. Somebody (probably a small army of people) really thought it through and that makes me so happy.

Roland

>ab yvtugfnoref< Abg dhvgr gehr. 😉

Youtalkingtome

I love that the sets and costumes look real. So much of Star Wars looks bad. This is a very impressive start and I'm very happy with how they're handling it so far

Youtalkingtome

I can't wait to watch Rogue One again. It's been a while since I've seen it

Youtalkingtome

Joe here, I have to admit Solo is a guilty pleasure movie for me. I'm not saying it's good, but I have a lot of fun watching it

Youtalkingtome

Awesome! I'm really hoping this restores my faith in Star Wars

Youtalkingtome

I was shocked that TLJ was getting hate from the fans when I first saw it. My entire theater applauded once the movie was over. I get goosebumps every time Luke looks at the two suns one final time

Youtalkingtome

I'm curious what you would think of the more recent films. I'm not saying they're all good but each film has something in it that's at least interesting

Youtalkingtome

I love that they sparred no expense. I can't wait to get into this show

Youtalkingtome

No way! I didn't even recognize him. Curious what you think of Episode 3 if you ever get around to watching it. The best part of the prequels is the John Williams score. It might be his best work

Youtalkingtome

Rogue One is a really fantastic movie and honestly a really cool idea on how to do a Star Wars movie, so I'm glad they expanded on it

Youtalkingtome

Boba Fett was always one of my favorite characters but I heard nothing but negative things about it. Which is really disappointing.

Youtalkingtome

Star Wars Top Gun...god just take my money. That sounds awesome

Youtalkingtome

One of the things I love about Star Wars is how every fan has a personal tie to it. We could all rank our favorites in order and it would be different in some capacity. I think Star Wars 77, is one of the first films I remember seeing. Empire and Jedi blew me away when I found out about them. I still get goosebumps when Luke throws down his lightsaber and stands in defiance against the emperor. "I am a Jedi, like my father before me." It's one of my favorite cinematic moments.

John Marnell

lol I especially like when people complain "it gave the middle finger to everything the previous film tried to set up!" The....the one written and directed by the guy who wrote and directed The Rise of Skywalker? We're pearl-clutching over that guy's vision being given the middle finger? That's the hill you want to die on?

Roland

Gilroy has also repeatedly referenced a French show called A Village In France in interviews. The show is set in WW2, it features both Resistance and collaboration storylines AFAICT. It's on my "eventually" list to watch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_village_fran%C3%A7ais

Lola Lirola

Hahaha, I can't drag you for a guilty pleasure! And honestly Donald Glover is so charismatic, and an insanely good cast as Lando Carlissian. I just always roll my eyes that they try to do the "well actually, parsec is a measure of distance" retcon, because come on, it's so obvious they just wanted a fancy, sci-fi sounding term for "fast" and didn't bother to check back in the 70s. It's fine to admit it, you guys! You don't have to build an entire movie around trying to pretend "shortcut" is what you meant all along! But other than that, you're right, it's a fun movie!

Lola Lirola

For real. I love Last Jedi and from now on, I'll adopt your version of the canon and make the whole saga end at the broomstick and it's perfect. Love it!

Cramdeon1969

So happy you're getting to this.

Yannick, from Montréal

Roland, Ner lbh gnyxvat nobhg gur ynfre ornzf sebz Yhgura'f fuvc? Gung'f ab yvtugfnore. If not, please explain ;-)

D Gyre

Even 'bad' star wars is better than half of what is out there

Jesse

There's a lot of crap Star Wars out there but this is definitely not that. I'd say this is prestige TV, some of the best there is in the past 20 years.

AdamPacio.art

Hey friends! Before the prequels were even a real possibility, an author by the name of Timothy Zahn wrote a trilogy of Star Wars novels which extended the canon trilogy for Part VII, VIII, and IX. It provided a set of sequel plots to continue with the momentum of the Star Wars trilogy, and provide the 'what happened after Happily Ever After for our heroes?' The Zahn novels are NOT considered canon. But they are by my personal opinion the ONLY real sequels or prequels to the OG trilogy. I was 5 or 6 when the first movie came out. I spent my childhood defining my value on the playground by the number of star wars figures and ships and sets that I had collected. And I spent so much of my childhood playing star wars figures with my friends, not recreating the movies, but coming up with plots and story arcs to further explore character development from the ages of 8-12. It made me into a storyteller, who naturally took to Dungeons and Dragons and running tabletop RPGs for the past 35 years with completely homebrew campaigns and worlds as my main hobby and passion, til a stroke interrupted things. It is hard for me to express adequately how amazing Timothy Zahn is as an author. When his works were discarded as non-canon, I wept for the franchise, and when I ditched work to catch Episode I in theatrical release at 7am on day one, I knew my childhood was over, because I was in disbelief at how wrong Lucas got his own franchise, and how little he seemed to understand his original story's appeal. But the Zahn novels? They are the kind of fiction where you just need to clear a full day, because you just keep reading 'one more page to see what happens' until the night is gone and it's time to go to work. His innovations on the original story arc will forever be my headcanon of how the story ACTUALLY wrapped up 7, 8 and 9. To this day. Despite or even Because Of the mess of all of the other movies and series. You can keep 1, 2, and 3 with no changes, as meh as they were, if you balance them by Timothy Zahn's star wars novels for 7, 8, and 9 and discard all but the tribute to space jedi Leia from the sequels. And I'm told that Zahn continued his splinterverse. And Zahn also adequately explained why Han boasted of the Millennium Falcon making the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs, a unit of distance not time, with a more palatable and scientificially plausible explanation than anything else ever put forward beyond "the 70s weren't really big on scientific literacy, man". Anyway, since Andor is prequel to OG Trilogy, you should both start reading or listening to the Timothy Zahn Star Wars trilogy. (::KILL LUKE SKYWALKER!::)

Roland

And obviously a bunch of actors from that show featured as Ghormans.