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We love reading all of your comments (it's one of the main reasons we love doing this channel with you). Just a heads-up: for reasons passing understanding (!), Patreon has changed the format by which we see comments: they used to appear newest first on a post, and they have flipped them so newer comments are farther down. This means new comments are effectively hidden from us unless we are actively searching an individual post. It's not an issue on newer posts, but on older posts, I'm afraid comments may be missed. And, of course, there is no method of changing this setting back. I really hate missing any of your comments, and if we do, please know it is a formatting problem and not one of us suddenly feeling too supercilious and self-important to engage. Even if I buy only the fanciest orange juice now and say things like "you simply must visit Wyld Blue anytime you find yourself on holiday in Aspen."

Thank you for your understanding!

Kevin

Comments

Jonathan

I'm sure it will change again 3 more times in the next year the way Patreon is.

Mitch

Hmmm California. Beautiful

Stephanie Bedworth

It seems like every update this app gets a little worse

I🖤Kraken

Has anyone else had their mobile screen flicker up and down really quickly on certain posts?

acidnova

Oh, so a website/app put out an update that made things worse? Color me shocked!

Kristi Govertsen

Hoity-toity-orange-juice Kevin is almost as delightful as 90-year-old, mid-Atlantic-accent Kevin.🤣

Roland

I'd love to be notified when there's a comment in a Post that I'm following, especially as people find these threads weeks or months later. AFAIK there's no mechanism for that. Stupid Patreon.

Clare Manion

Oh Kevin (and Joe!), you guys a fantastic - I don’t think anyone could ever accuse you of being supercilious. But agreed, every so often social platforms make some of the weirdest changes… I could say it’d be interesting to be a fly on the wall of that board room - but God knows I’d rather have dental surgery than sit through such a thing 🙃

JENNIFER E

I expect you to only use "summer" as a verb going forward!

Actuarial Lurker

There was Internet chatter in the last few days on how Patreon was actively making enhancements to "increase engagement" and there might be a "new look and feel" ...I guess that was an epic fail...

Actuarial Lurker

I don't use the mobile app...BUT on my laptop I definitely DO see such flicker I am a Patron of these guys from Ohio who run a Star Trek channel and they use the chat board feature to have Patrons make spoiler comments on each episode that their moderators keep away from them and which are read as "hot takes" at the end of their YT videos of their blind no-spoilers chronological watch-alongs. This flickering is happening ALL over these Patreon Discussion Boards as well which makes it hard to upvote the hot takes that get chosen for YouTube

Actuarial Lurker

It only notifies the original poster of any comment. So when you and I have traded comments on some of the war movies reactions etc I get an e-mail Roland like your comment on Band of Brothers Episode 4....but nothing else. And once several people banter it screws that ip more

Actuarial Lurker

Kevin- I wonder if you want to enable the "Group Chats" feature- unless of course they charge you for this feature....other Patreon creators use this for general comments, memes etc

James B.

I'm not worried. I'm freakin inciteful. Burying my comments would be like trying to blot out the sun.

danzthename

Patreon is a necessary evil at this point. They don't understand website/app design.

Roland

Right. I think all it would take is an extra button (next to the Like heart emoji), for "ping me when there's a reply" (or new post, etc)

kosmickrab

On desktop, there's a filter button to the right of the comments header that you can filter "top" and "newest" if that helps.

Ben Gilbert

The past few weeks I've been having to click on the filter button (when it's there) to have the new comments at the top, but today at least they are already at the top. I don't know how long that will last. I'm using the desktop.

Laura Dawson

I really appreciate how you read all the comments and reply to them, even though it must take ages. Why Patreon would want to make engagement harder is beyond me!

Jamie Morgan

Yet another corporation biting the hand that feeds it, what a surprise... I have noticed that when I get a reply to one of my comments, clicking on the notification doesn't take me straight to my comment any more - it takes me to the post and I have to scroll to find it. The whole reason I'm here is to have discussions about my favourite media, why on earth would I want that made harder??

vala p

As long as you don't shop at Erewhon I think you still have a chance.

Lola Lirola

This sucks, because since I live in a completely different time zone, my comments are always late! 😅 I was noticing the same thing when I revisited older posts and couldn't find any new comments (on the movie list, for insurance), which is so irritating. But! At least for me, there's two arrows at the top of the comment section, that you can toggle to sort the comments by "Newest". Comments are sorted by "Top" (most likes) now by default. I haven't found the way to make it stay on "Newest" though, so it's a hassle to sort them every time, but at least it's doable!

Lola Lirola

That's the one! So snobbish!

Lola Lirola

Exactly this is what I thought as I was reading their post. Everything sucks now!

Lola Lirola

Same!! I hate it!! (Also, because I often don't remember exactly what I said. So I literally just received a reply to a movie we watched four months ago that said "Thank you fo saying this", and I can't remember what it was! 😅)

Youtalkingtome

Oh, reeeeeally, Mistah Vanderhorn, I find your entiiiire nature quite boooorish.

Maddy D.

Y’all put in so much work to engage with your audience in an open and honest way and it’s so rare to see the thing that drove you in the beginning stuck around for the long haul. Those of us that have been here know that ego isn’t something that drives you

Mithroch

But... isn't that what that button with the arrows is for. It defaults to Top but you can select Newest.

Youtalkingtome

That button only shows up for us if we go to the post from the member view page. The creator page feed is different. Because of course it is.

Kimba

OK, but like what’s the best orange juice?

Youtalkingtome

Hard Time Olde Timey Juice Drink. It's made fresh at Florida's minimum security Coleman Camp prison by white collar convicts. You can really taste the embezzlement.

Actuarial Lurker

Kevin- until they get pardoned and get part of a $1.776 Billion slush fund...

fire12wife

As with most apps and sites!

Youtalkingtome

They're still rolling something else out. We can get the new update early, but I think we'll hold off until we have to!

Erica

Have you guys thought about starting a discord server? In my experience, it's much more organized and easier to keep track of stuff. It would be understandable if that was too much work for you guys, as i know a lot of creators have to find mods and stuff for their servers