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Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 4, Episode 16 - Uncut Version (Patreon)

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2026-06-10 22:37:22
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Neill Shaughness

I love when the show let's Gellar show off her skills like this. She never doesn't understand the assignment

Mithroch

BTW, Dollhouse is a worthy watch. It's another Joss show and it starred Eliza Dushku.

JC

Faith is such a tragic character and I always wonder who she’d have been if she had Buffy’s support system.

JC

Yes this episode shows how good SMG is and how seriously she took her craft and Buffy as an important piece of art.

Chris

I love her arc in this. It's the first time Faith has been able to be *the* slayer. Not someone in the shadow of the "real" slayer. So that weird thing of - being needed by others generally making you a better person - can do its magic without her biographical baggage. Also how meta hearing nerf herder at the bronze?

Leah W.

There are so many good moments this episode. When she said that she was "the one and only" slayer that's because she doesn't consider herself a slayer. Buffy is the one and only slayer. And she ended up literally fighting herself and revealed what she thought of herself. A disgusting murderer. It's such a good character arc. Also, unless the team tells Spike about the body swap (why would they?), he's walking away from this episode at a complete loss thinking that that just happened... what a crazy moment for him.

GemmaBeeBee

I love this episode for Faith's development. I know you both say that she is a broken person but I always saw Faith as an abuse victim who is so filled with self-loathing that she cannot accept herself or other peoples care at all. They have hinted at her abuse in the show before when she was speaking with Angel in Consequences. He says he just wants to talk and she says that's always how it starts. First its 'I just want to talk, then it's can I stay the night.' I think there's a strong implication that she was assaulted or taken advantage of before she became the Slayer. The awful truth is then she goes on to do the same to Riley and whilst its a horrible scene because of that, I think Riley's treatment of her in that scene scares her because she's never experienced sex where its just about love and kindness. Making herself vulnerable is something she clearly doesn't want to do anymore and it also translates into her lack of friends and parents. You talked about her walking in Buffy's shoes but I think its more that through Buffys eyes, she experiences Joyce's unconditional motherly love, Riley's romantic love and the love of Buffy's friends and she starts to crack.

vala p

I made my small humans watch that part and tried to explain to them that the guy singing made some of their favorite songs. Parry Gripp's kid songs saved my sanity. Obviously not the spike and buffy parts 😂

vala p

I had to watch this right away anything else would be WRONG

jimmy2k4o .

First Xander now Riley, she’s bordering a serial sexual assailant. If this show was made today they wouldn’t shy from acknowledging that Xander and Riley are victims of sexual assault. It’s also said this show frames it as Riley cheating on Buffy, like she’s angry at him for being raped. It’s a pity.

that girl

I've been looking forward to your reaction to this episode for so long

Michael Barrett

Joss as a writer/director always managed to get the absolute best out of SMG every time - Hush, Amends, Anne, Innocence, Prophecy Girl, Graduation Day, Becoming.

Pam Nail

- Man, I LOVE these two episodes! Definitely one of the highlights of the season and such a great chance for SMG and Eliza to show what they can do. And the final fight, where Faith is punching her own face and you see how much she hates herself is AMAZING writing and acting. - I love that Tara is so integral to solving the problem and that she gets right away that something is off with Buffy. I also can't help giggle at the clear metaphor of Willow and Tara doing a spell together as representative of ... other things they might be doing together -- especially given how the spell they do in this episode is visualized.

Kevin L

Brilliant script, amazing execution. By golly, Joss and SMG have done it again! :) Dushku's return was electric, as if she'd never left -- a jolt of energy in every appearance. Marc Blucas delivered too; his scene with (fake) Buffy in the bedroom, and the final one (the harrowing realization) were some of their best together. Love that Tara the outsider is the one who knows something is wrong - and this is the first time she's met Buffy! What a gorgeous scene for Tara & Willow's spell... Magic indeed, and a stand-in for lesbian intimacy that could not be shown on network TV in 2000.

danzthename

Juicy episode. One of the best imo. It's so fun to watch Sarah and Eliza play each other. They do a great job. I love how this one advances Willow and Tara's relationship too. That spell seemed like a bit more than just a spell. 🔥

Lyla

Perfectly articulated. This is exactly my view of her too

yann hollister

Fantastic episode. At the end of the day i feel terrible for Faith, she's such a lost soul.. and we could see a glitch of hope for her at the end of this episode :(

dys

A lot of it runs on this "actors playing each others' characters" too, Whedon & crew must love doing that. But unlike Freaky Friday-esque plots in some other shows I can think of, they have great enough actors and directing to pull it off convincingly in both this episode and Dollhouse.

dys

Alastair Duncan has a pretty tiny role here as the more no-nonsense one of the Council goons, but I loved him as Mimir in the 2018 God of War game, which has one of the most masterful stories I've ever sen in a videogame.

Kevin L

Buffy may feel anger toward Riley, and betrayal, at first -- but I think she knows ultimately not to blame him. And let's be clear, this was a magic body-switcheroo that none of the victims could see coming. I don't think the show frames anything improperly, it's just how the characters feel in the moment.

Carl Wilson

I'd forgotten how good this one is, just how much damn happens. Both Sarah and Eliza are amazing in it. It goes with the "walk a mile in their shoes" idea in a very direct way, and really makes something pretty profound out of it.

Carl Wilson

Tara's "I, am, you know.... yours" is a kind of landmark romantic moment, still pretty radical for a prime-time teen show at this time. And seeing the Council's "wetworks" team - no problem with killing humans there - also extends their villain arc pretty significantly.

ScarlettMi

The insight that we get into Faith in this episode is so extensive. Beyond her own self-loathing and insecurity, that moment when she absolutely panics in terror at being told "I love you" by a guy she's having sex with says so much about her past and about the trauma that shaped who she became. She doesn't believe she's worthy of being a hero, so she became the villain. She associates love with abuse, so she rejects that sex can be anything other than disposable and (at its worst) a violent act of domination. She believes that Buffy is the better version of her in every way and won't even let some random stranger call her a "killer", because when she's Buffy, she's not those things. Stepping outside of herself made her finally be honest about what it is that she hates about herself. What she does with that clear and crystallized self-hatred is what she's left to ponder in that train.

Daniel Lydford

The discussion of Eliza Dushku makes me think that we need a reaction to Bring It On.

Miranda

Unrelated to the rest of the conversation about the sex scene with Riley and Faith- why did he think that was the right time to say, "I love you" for the first time to Buffy?! Like it's so painful that the first time he says it is to Faith, but he's a dingus for doing it during sex regardless.

Kt B

One of the things I admire about this show is that they include sex very purposefully, as it always serves the plot and the characters. There are many scenarios in which it comes up, which means it can be used for different reasons and to explore different nuances. What I don’t like is how every non-consensual sexual encounter isn’t called out as assault. Here it’s clearly a case where Faith violated Buffy’s body and deceived Riley, robbing him of consent. The complications from that are explored, but nobody in the show recognizes Riley as a victim. Unfortunately, I think it’s less a conscious choice by the writers and more a societal blind spot in a time when consent wasn’t yet a buzzword. Unfortunately, there’s more to come in the “whoa, consent was definitely NOT given, but everything will end up fine, so don’t worry too much about it” category. This show was very influential, and my single biggest criticism is the way they gloss over the psychological affects of assault and trauma. Sometimes they nail it, but sometimes they just don’t.

Kt B

Dollhouse had some exceptional skilled actors - total chameleon (especially the one who played Victor). I don’t know why nobody’s career blew up after the show, because they certainly deserved it.

Kt B

Yes! I believe that canonically Spike never finds out!

Kt B

I really wish they could see “Five by Five” now instead of waiting. It’s SO good!

yann hollister

I agree. I was thinking of that too at the end of the reaction, they are an excellent continuation to this storyline.

Kt B

Good point. If we’re going to separate it from the obvious “for the plot” reason, I’d say it’s because he feels less intimidated and more intimate/equal in that moment. He’s ok being vulnerable then, whereas he’s more self-conscious other times. I think that’s true of many people, which is why it happens commonly enough to be faux pas.

Joseph Irizarry

One thing I noticed more clearly during this rewatch was that you can see Buffy feeling Faith's self-loathing in her own body after they switched back.

dys

To this day I don't know how Enver Gjokaj (Victor)'s career didn't blow up.

dys

Getting to lead seven seasons on a show like this is nothing to sneeze at, but it's a shame that she was never allowed to fully flex her immense talent on pretty much anything she did after that, and now her reputation is just as being a scream queen in second-rate horror franchises when she's one of the greatest actors... ever.

Onno Smits

Enver Gjokaj is genuinely one of the best actors I've ever seen. He's awesome in Agent Carter too, but in Dollhouse he was fucking incredible.

Alex

There was a moment at 16:32 in the reaction where Sarah Michelle Gellar does a little shoulder movement that is so Faith! They did an amazing job of playing each other.

Jamie Morgan

Eliza and Sarah both absolutely nail their performances, there's NEVER any confusion about who they're meant to be, even when they're just standing there. Masterful work. Also, fuck censorship in general, but I love the metaphor of Tara and Willow casting the spell as them having sex. It's extremely blatant, I'm genuinely surprised it made it past the censor board, but it's AMAZING! Rot13: Gurz fnlvat Snvgu vfa'g tbvat gb gbegher crbcyr nal zber jura fur'f ba ure jnl gb YN gb qb rknpgyl gung gb Jrfyrl...bbs.

Jamie Morgan

Being demisexual myself, I totally get it. If I trust you enough to let you have sex with me, then I must love you. That would be the peak time for me to say it. (Not saying that Riley is on the ace spectrum, I think he's just 'proper', but still).

Jontor11

"You didn't happen to sense any hyena possession, did you?"...always cracks me up.:-)

Erica

Faith asking riley "what do you want with her?" breaks me every time, because faith can't imagine an encounter where a guy is gentle and loving without him having ulterior motives. That said, sleeping with riley using buffy's body is sexual assault on both of them. It's such a strange situation, but buffy and riley are both valid in their feelings about it.

Erica

I mentioned in something blue that buffy's hair is often a clue to when buffy isn't quite buffy - in this episode we see SMG with a wavy hairstyle similar to the one from Something Blue, to indicate that she's not playing "Buffy," exactly. Also, this is only Joyce's 4th episode of the season (She appeared in the premiere, the halloween episode, last week's ep, and now this), mostly because Kristine Sutherland was in Rome, where her daughter was going to school at the time! little fun fact there

Jiiinx1753

Episodes like this are why BTVS is considered a great show. It’s not so straightforward, good people can make mistakes and bad people can be victims of circumstance. SMG and Eliza Dushku are such great actresses. I will always be saddened Eliza retired though good for her as long as she’s happy. I had thought it would be cool if BTVS: New Sunnydale mentioned Faith having retired from Slayering and instead was a therapist for slayers.

CobbleAUS

Such a fucking great episode.

Jontor11

I think the problem with Buffy season 4 is Faith. Not in a bad way, but when Eliza Dushku comes along we all kind of forget about Adam. Faith is such an interesting character that everything else seems unimportant.

Roland

How much of that is down to the show being pre- Me Too?

Kt B

Well, as I understand it, there was more than one person in this production who has been explicitly called out during Me Too, so there’s that

Zach Hershman

It is often when people say it for the first time. People aren't perfect. They often do things at the "wrong" time. The fact that Riley chose that time to say it says a lot about his insecurities when it comes to his relationship with Buffy.

Joseph Irizarry

RE: Shared dream space - I like to think that is Faith's "higher" self in the dream space, not necessarily her conscious self (I mean clearly she wasn't conscious). As bad as she has become, consider that The Powers That Be chose her for a reason

Paul Komoroski

Yes, it always angered me that the show never acknowledges the SA harm Faith does to Riley; it only acknowledges the harm Faith does to Buffy in the process of what she does to Riley.